intro’d to Vinay via Doug here:
Vinay Gupta shares his vision of a rural future
developing countries, africa, leap frogging the track (the track Ellsberg talked about ie: move to city to get enough money to move back to the country) – by just staying rural..
rural life – centered around the bicycle, the solar panel – just
11 min – we took an early branch – to fossil fuel.. it dead ended.. but the rest of the world that hasn’t industrialized.. can learn from all tech/failures.. pull what is what’s best out of culture and go straightforward.. what you’re left with is self-sufficient peasant agriculture.. without having to go to city to get rich first…
from Doug’s words in his post:
What we can do though, I suppose, is make cities nicer places to live. Cities are actually pretty good per square mile in terms of efficiency. Making them nicer places to live, though, would mean jettisoning our rugged individualism and inherent competitiveness with peers. These are the kinds of things that lead to families buying two cars and driving everywhere instead of demanding better public transport. And, you know, if we pooled together we could all work 21 hour weeks while providing a minimum basic income for all. We could end poverty, at least in our own country.
But we don’t do any of this. Why? Because we’re trapped and immobilised by a nostalgic mythology. Instead of demanding and working towards something different and better, we’re spurred on by consumer culture that tells us we ‘deserve’ more of the same. The truth is that most of us aren’t going to attain the dream they’re peddling. All we get to do is silently, seethingly observe in the media other people doing things presented as ‘normal’. The truth for most of us is that those things are increasingly merely a distant dream.
so yes.. let’s leap frog us in the (supposed) developed world as well.. learn from mistakes.. take things that worked.. but let’s re-open (?) our minds.. to the unlikely.. the non-assumed .. the seemingly i’mpossible.
vinay on spiritual colonialism
jun 2014 article – Of Moonshots and Slingshots
It is sobering to stop and ponder: “If everything I do succeeds completely, will I have made any difference at all.” It is a much harder question than “Can we do this?”
I do not have answers. In addition to being a policy researcher I am also a technologist. I have noticed that over time my policy work washes out but my technologies gather strength and support. Can we draw lines and rally around them? When does policy or technology become politics?
I want you to stop for a moment and ask the hard question about your own work. Given the onrushing global issues of various kinds—the big, bad ones with gigadeath tolls or near-permanent cultural damage, never mind the ecocide—if everything you are working on succeeds, will it matter? If not, you have failed before you started.
Consider only this: Maybe we need to put all our force into a few absolutely critical targets; massive triage of the endless list of good causes that attract our attention, focused down to a sharp spike, something with a clarity and focus just as strong as the financial motive of the markets, or the desire to perpetuate power in politics. Perhaps if we discontent policy actors abandoned our posts on this planetary Titanic, we could actually fight our way to the engine rooms and do something about this mess.
It’s not hard to assess whether what you are doing matters. It is hard to choose to make that assessment, and to..
..disengage with what is irrelevant.
africa – Toby Shapshak ness
Launched $30bn @Ethereum. CEO of @mattereum Forbes profile forbes.com/sites/rahulsin… Humanitarian designer myhopeforthe.world
my hope for the world: http://myhopeforthe.world/
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Vinay Gupta (@leashless)
7/20/14 4:43 AM
You don’t need much of a resource base: £1m would do it, if it was in a place with cheap land and no building codes. nature.com/nature/journal…
So to find time for our kind of science, we had to dump a few shibboleths. For instance, we never bother to ‘publish’: we just post our findings on weblogs, and if they get a lot of links, hey, we’re the Most Frequently Cited. Tenure? Who needs that? Never heard of it! Doctorates, degrees, defending a thesis — don’t know, don’t need ’em, can’t even be bothered!
There’s no money and no banking here. Instead, every object is tracked by RFID tags and subjected to a bioenergetic, cost–benefit, eBay-style arbitrage by repurposed stock-market buy–sell software agents. In practice, this means that when you need something new, you just pile up the things you don’t want by your doorway until somebody shows up and gives you the thing you do want. Economists who visit here just flee screaming — but come on, was economics ever really a ‘science’? We’re with Rutherford: it’s physics or it’s stamp collecting!
15 min on bitcoin politics nov 2013:
Hexayurt Project at the Bitcoin Expo, London
counter economics isn’t going to take care of climate/agriculture
it’s not just currency, it’s not just freedom, it’s survival
open hardware housing system – for emergency housing – 1st built at burning man
3 min version apr 2014:
[Bitcoin] Cannot be divorced from pre-existing political theory
Vinay on london real (Brian Rose) feb 2014:
14 min – making mechanisms for getting people out of major situations/crises
critical infrastructure – aka: if it goes away people die
what could you die from: too hot/cold, hunger/thirst, injury, illness
19 min – fear govt invokes to make them seem necessary
35 min – once the refugee camps are wired – they no longer are lost stray humans – self-organizing.. only currency that will allow that is bitcoin
perhaps bitcoin will turn out to be the myspace of digital currency – bitcoin’s enemy is not the state, bitcoin’s enemy is its successors
you literally buy into the currency
i think in 30 yrs bitcoin will be gone or dead.. perhaps cryptocurrency
bitcoin as the poor man’s swiss frank – for people that are unserved by the state/system – bitcoin is like open source currency
43 min – i’m not sure that just changing who the oligarchy is – is going to solve the world problems – ie: early adopters to bitcoin
45 min – war is expensive – once you burn it – it’s gone..
46 min – nano materials – weighs/costs nothing – string – fabrics
47 min – what keeps us from this vision of everyone taken care of – there’s always a prey animal – if you want to have a system that works – it has to be one where weak can take from strong – ton of room in basic income – govt writes everyone a check for 20000 a year. close all the social programs (health, ed) if you’re going to have a govt that does redistribution it’s best it does nothing else
patri friedman – let’s start some new countries and see if it works
51 min – liquid law – 12 votes
if you make 35000 you’re part of the 1% globally, if you make 2 mill in the us
70% of millionaires in america are farmers – enormous amt of land
53 min – can we make 10 billion of these.. if you can’t make 10 billion – it’s not going to work for everybody
56 min – we can do this for everybody – dollar a day income – as long as it’s not distorted by the state
wikipedia – 5 mill dollar a year – 30000 volunteers
commons based peer production – price is a useless single pieces of data in a super rich high bandwidth environment
58 min – anarchist volunteerism – ie: wikipedia – get more out of it than you put into it..
70% of phone is in open source market – so it’s not going away – so on edge – no longer in markets
vote once every 4 years… edge makers are practically instant
money is not a very efficient instrument for changing the world any more..
powerfuls are frequently now – no longer the rich
1:04 – stacktivism
1:10 – best advice – just sit – weight training for the mind – the ability to pay attention to what you want to pay attention to and not anything else
1:20 – it’s about the journey – peace is the accelerator
But I am still left with a core question: can any political ideology we have face down the twin terrible threats of climate change and uncontrolled technological innovation?
yes – but for it to last – ie: instigating utopia everyday – money needs to become irrelevant. no?
We may have to innovate in ideology faster to fix our real problems. Any idea how we could start?
indeed. model another way.
nov 2014 – on bitcoin:
Libertarianism simply does not prevent the establishment of monopolies, cartels, or power-law distributions of wealth. Never has, never will. Libertarians needed to see that happen in order to understand that their ideology is actually not going to protect them against centralized power.
Now they will need to decide: did they want libertarianism, where property is used to divide everything? Or did they want anarchy, where it’s our inherent human nature that gives us freedom, not our property rights.
dec 2014 – tweeting to Kevin for his input on this:
not so sure of the number. not keen on the school bldg.
imagining more like 1000 or 70000. sliding. per need/have ness. perhaps the 100 is the (channing) neighborhood size. 5ish mayors ish oversee resources (rather than money) – via some social mapping ness. via daily app/chip self-talk (data).
so self-talk as data for stigmergical society ness.
Neil Gershenfeld to Blair Evans – building tiny houses
CoinScrum and Proof of Work: Tools for the Future
black sky thinking – things that may never happen – but probably will
post-state foreign policy by internet protocol – (internet – only thing you have in non-state that has durability)
housing is the last truly inefficient global industry..
1-2000 hexyurt at burning man
bitcoin (audience), wikipedia, linux – have actually changed things up
libertarian politics… even if you sort out concentration of power.. economic basis is driven by slavery
if we had a country that had the same dynamics of the whole world.. it would be like n korea… (not america) – we have a distorted model of this… 1% 35000/yr – a super elite group looking out at the world.. other 98% looking at us – how did you get that money – the answer is colonialism..
not sure moving up the pyramid is going to help… ie: still have climate mess, et al…
crypto community collectively actually has power to change world in a real way.. to actually get leverage on the real problems.. (global poverty.. global warming..)
irrelevant even if it succeeds is a really bad category
the lever is – what is going to happen to the world in the next 10 yrs.. is roughly what would have happened to 13th cent europe if everyone would have been handed a smartphone
now – 2 bill internet users – vast majority – rich and white
10 yrs from no – 5-6 bill users – dirt poor brown & black people
talking to each other in languages we don’t even know the names of..
central bank of the internet thing
enormous reservoir of untapped power – if you are being astonishingly useful to 3 bill poor people very hard to turn you off
the poor are not going to remain stuck in position we think they will remain in
solar panels, mesh networking …sawyer filter – little widget- $20 – purify 100000 gallons of water can coke size – $100 – 1 mill gallons
clean water is now a soluble problem
set collectively – 1st world levels of infrastructure any village anywhere in the world… doable – absolutely game changing..
1st hard question – who wants 3 bill clients with average of $1000/yr.. if you have deeply automated systems.. doable – crypto community as a whole is almost certainly going to wind up owning the namespace for the very poor – i think you need crypto and fb can’t play it
what if no money?
going to see multiple simultaneous markets.. good news for everybody – not a fight to the finish
makerfox – local stuff – what to sell what to buy – everybody gets what they want – network barter
what about just what i need what i have..
ian greg’s ricardo stuff – want to work together at village level but trust each other enough to share a bank account..
political control – the closer to the center of the wheel – the more power you have.. stacktivism – understanding how the ownership infrastructure defines political power
18 min – this i think is the real frontier of freedom: villagers that are food self sufficient – with a (shocking bout?) of tech – using decentralized service.. because off the grid, autonomous, outright ownership of their land, and very substantially politically free.. so expensive to police them..
policy – if we’re going to build platforms.. for 3 billion. – create something that looks like sovereignty but has no center.
pick least evil people to alliance with..
move forward when players from old and new work together.. so who of the existing powers are our friends? right now – basically nobody.. we have to find incumbents to protect us
how to make this new civilization civil.. nothing we can do to make this civil… i don’t think
is poverty actually soluble… i think we’ve misunderstood how to understand how to measure poverty. infant mortality and life of life.. ie: start finding areas of glasgow similar to areas of congo. once you frame poverty in those terms rather than cash flow.. you’ve got better representation of people that are self-sufficient on their own land when cash terms are very poor but in life span doing quite well. (ie: karawa – they’ve broken the idea that you need cash flow) once you decouple the idea of income from poverty.. you get much more political freedom to design nuanced and solvent problems…a language problem .. need to decouple these concepts and start talking about excess mortality rather than deficient cash flow
Vinay audio at transmediale (jan 2015) on ethereum:
black swan – 30 nice cryptographers in a room – the social dynamics to hold it together..
smart team, good ideas, adequate budget
might end up w/15/20% of people using internet… not some kind of messianic/political movement bitcoin was
take (policing out) the slack in the system – that is used by the powerful
(all related to using/assuming money..?)
taking out un-useful middlemen
ie: camera that raises money for itself
code lawyers… read code.. then signs contract to cover (insurance) you if code breaks down
blockchain cameras for proof – ie: that didn’t get taken to my location, hotel room didn’t open, etc – freelance inspector – for refunds..
enough social consciousness from the growing transparency.. that the good of tech use will overcome the bad
march 21 – 2015 launch
poverty level – because don’t have institutional weight.. so this oversteps that..
cell phones arrive in the villages with blockchain programs on them…
we have to decide how much more we are going to take.. if the answer is much more – this tech is going to be very bad for us.. but if we decide to take charge…
one full node per village – rather than per phone company (keeping on phone is best.. but having to keep it light)
ibm has taken a fork of ethereum – hacked with bitcoin – called – adapt..
we could have a system perfectly safe.. that would be also perfectly powerful (govt)… i don’t think we want that.. (the need for safe-ness is more our corrupt system)
we are not interested in picking up where bitcoin left off
blockchain has gotten off to a start – of political theme.. i’m thinking we want more of a mixed theme… some decentralized some centralized..
culturally important rather than financially valuable
culturally important rather than financially valuable
if you want to help – there’s a bug finding bounty
we need to keep expanding/broadening the perspective.. until we’ve got global use
i’m all for crazy social dislocation
a string of tweets by Vinay – on living/modeling/being a nother way..
so – what if the stacktivism ness is more like the vest ness..??
april 2015 – blockchains, databases, reification: are bottom up standards possible?:
12 min – blockchain is a database that works like a network, data rather than document, network rather than centralized
13 min – right now – organization stalled because databases can’t talk to each other
.@jonmatonis If you come from a culture that doesn’t know how to carry people while they learn, society becomes dominated by ignorance
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/597136815661948928
may 2015 – Ilaria Rocchi and Vinay Gupta discuss the Ethereum Project and theories of political change
8 min – on explanations of blockchains being wrong.. and dangerously so
11 min – 7 layers our from the convo we keep having
14min – build temp cities.. – temp countries… (ie for refugees)… if we do.. we need to do things like ..
paperwork? credential.. et al … w/o passport… money..
then have – 10’s of millions of highly educated
17 min – name resolution – so that we don’t have to go through un et al… the possibility to push the nation state back out of the internet… restore we the people..
18 min – a self-governing library
19 min – a global regulated commons for the virtual – the things that aren’t basically safe… absolute minimum.. censorship free communication system
20 min – on rojava – and a continuum of revolution
23 min – on naropa uni, gpg, ..
24 min – my hope – that ethereum stays in creative realm and out of political realm … ie: ethereum getting passports to refugees… give them identities that no one else will..; re-credential dr’s; 2nd hand cameras living on block chain – so pools of used properties, smart property; …
32 min – this is going to scare anyone who makes their living out of oppression or advertising
33 min – explaining blockchain
42 min – on mobile phone banking
Vinay – can we go w/o money..?
47 min – on conversations/debates we’re having now.. about internet.. are tiny.. real challenges are all around us.. my hope is to create this free environment
49 min – on web more for pdf than for gold exchange..
50 min – on the mis-estimation of publics readiness for global/revolutionary change… we can be a new pillar – w/o tearing down other structures.
rather than against ness… a going forward ness
52 min – radical change: let’s go build a city on mars; taking care of business: creating alternative structure
56 min – on why we (the people) aren’t changing.. – too comfortable.. govt ignoring global warming.. but has been ignoring poverty even more
57 min – until people of world decide they want a better world.. a shift in fundamental public awareness (not ed, what’s in hearts) … the world will continue to be awful… my goal is winning what we have with the consciousness we have
perhaps we need a placebo type jumpstart.. for the 99
58 min – so ethereum as web 3.0 to help this happen – make world a better place.. and pays its bills…
1:00 – it’s our business model not our tech that is the core competitive asset… an internet that works for us
So here’s why this “capitalism is colonialism” thing matters: nobody’s seriously talking about a fair world for everybody these days.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/599711284943261696
And when you start talking about “nobody dies of poverty” you’re talking about changing the evolutionary pressures on humanity radically.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/599712512058204160
“I cannot have kids because my kids will grow up homeless” is bad. “I cannot have kids because my kids will starve to death” is far worse.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/599712806523514880
Was it Kibera that’s said to be on its fifth generation of people born in “refugee camp” – that’s not a refugee camp, that’s people’s lives.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/599720649251229696
But the political arguments about quality of life and child-rearing in camps I haven’t had quite clear until now. Thank you for listening.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/599723212965072897
Does anybody have a copy of Laziness, Impatience, Hubris my talk at @cbase hexayurt.blip.tv/file/4816876/ I’ve got audio here..
starts about 3 min
7 buildings by 6 guys in 2 days
6 min – example of massive scale of openness.. ie: simple enough they didn’t even need to ask him how to do anything (built at burning man)
8 min – basics are incredibly simple… so idea spreads incredibly quickly..
that’s what we need – for systemic change.. no? simple enough ness
13 min – Bucky optimizing for wrong thing… not min mass… min waste
back to the hubris part – if we’d had this tech in the 1960s the hippies would have won… this is how the freaks take over the earth
18 min – the military loves hexayurts.. (camaflouge ness)
19 min – on squat a bility
23 min – end talk..
may 2015 – coase’s blockchain
blockchain is simply a database that works like the network – decentralized databases are robust… no edit/delete.. 100% history..no privacy.. no secrecy
2 yrs from now – won’t hear blockchain – will just hear database
so have single structural background/platform
blockchain is for reducing transaction costs – cutting through regulatory overheads/paperwork/bureaucracy
because ethereum is non-profit.. i don’t have to tell investors that it will replace other things.. it can run alongside
june 2015 – wales
Transparent Society – Crowdfunding on Block Chains / Ethereum
so much phrased in (already given) frameworks of political power – … the state has no power… problems we face today are outside of state’s ability to address, ie: polio…
2 min – where battle for power results in inefficiency to solve problems..
3 min – an enormous uncharted wasteland.. of stuff nation state are unable to solve.. because wrong institutional vehicle…
7 min – wisdom legitimacy on decisions rather than purchases/possessions
8 min – when we realize the random ness of the process of vc for startups ness… ie: y combinator..
10 min – what if what we need is to fund a random selection…i think we can solve that with blockchain technology…
17 min – on blockchain with no centralized schema.. database tech built from ground up.. and all organizations share workspace… wind up with easy flow of tasks/structures between organizations.. because finally have database tech which is network native.. finally have tech to get over B hump… may take as little as 5 yrs because people are desperate..
so why can’t www be that? why blockchain? is blockchain more than hypertext?
19 min – smart contract.. making possible for my phone company to directly communicate with my bank… even more true with mortgages… ie: transferring ownership… gets rid of middle man
wouldn’t no money get rid of middle man..?
22 min – blockchain – reorganization necessary to re plumb the world…
equity crowdfunding.. reg crowdfunding.. put money in nothing comes back. equity crowdfunding.. put money in money comes back
so all based on money.. no?
26 min – owners and users the same people… and run by people picked by people/users
27 min – venture capital ransom ness (ie: ability for vc’s to pick is extremely low) not effected by crowd doing the work… ie: we’re already shoveling money into a furnace.. i think we should let more people shove more money into the furnace..
30 min – solution is tons and tons of experimenters… and only block to that .. funding and regulation…
indeed.. 7 billion doing their thing.. but perhaps .. not getting money to each other.. but using self-talk to get people to each other.. no?
31 min – on getting away from policing.. on the agreement that no one can make good decisions… so, ie: not a loss at letting everyone decide.. (paraphrase)… i think we’ll discover that equity crowdfunding and vc funding would get the same return…
33 min – if we don’t have a metric for equity crowdfunding.. going to be hard to sell it’s (the same)..
but again – what if that’s (money) the institution/tech that is getting in the way.. yes.. use blockchain/hypertext ness.. but not for distributing/measuring moneys…
36 min – on our inborn love for new tech that is useful…
37 min – the people want flying cars.. the problem is the flying car guy needs to go get funds to start.. regulation/B in the way… we need recreational/tech investment.. to deliver us this flying car utopia that we’re all entitled to… wildly exuberant crowd funding.. blockchain
38 min – ethereum is not equity crowdfund… but the next round of it .. could be
41 min – suggesting … tons of money if we get equity crowdfunding to support ie: tinkerers..
42 min – responsibly managing investment is not a way to get where we want to go… to get real progress.. – (again – graeber’s quote above…) – basically only means we have for solving problems we have… ie: govts too small minded to face big/systemic problems we have.. just can’t talk about stuff like that and get elected..
44 min – reference of red cross.. 6 houses for haiti… with so much money
45 min – blockchain as vehicle to blow innovation up at a local level
46 min – ie: what would have happened if we would have equity crowdfunded fb
47 min – left: people who work should own; right: people who own should own….post-industrial society finds no meaning in that…
49 min – now – only very rich get access… future – equitable access. very important to not sell this inside a left/right mindset… it makes sense from both left and right.. but doesn’t make sense in authoritarian..
50 min – strategy that makes sense along a political axis that has not yet been defined, ie: post-industrial.. makes sense in both left/right mindset ..but not in authoritarian-
57 min – soundhound
1:00 – funding is free speech… critical ways of regulating equity crowdfunding
1:01 – institutions – on the 4 yr election cycle… speed from 200 yrs ago… if you told jefferson that when we had airplanes we’d still use same electoral system…
1:02 – people doing own allocations…
yes to that… do we need money for that?
1:03 – dismantle need for nation state before its collapse… get all simultaneously running… ie: greece…
put all systems together: democratization of society and massive acceleration of technological change… who could refuse that.. if we get that right… we get the open future everyone is wanting
singapore, july 2015
money is whatever people use and call money
value can only be socially constructed..
15 min – the worst thing about bitcoin.. is it’s just a currency… doesn’t provide facilities for building other things, like ie: auctions, futures contracts, derivatives, … so not secure.. very hackable…as long as system has a border….
17 min – part of theory behind ethereum.. is to build a secure system
ethereum is a blockchain that holds software…
20 min – the way you talk to ethereum is through websites
24 min proof of work – pledge i’ve done the right thing; proof of state – pledge you will do right thing
37 min – problem – blockchains tend to be permanent storage of past… so hard to chance quickly
38 min – if ethereum works – it won’t be last step.. will keep morphing until – until something has same durability as ??? visa ???
that’s the goal of ethereum..?
43 min – on identity
47 min – ethereum is the one network
describes two loop theory with proof of state continuing and proof of work dropping off.. after say a year of comparing them.. alongside
55 min – on having to store – cost of storage
57 min – talking about ethereum is like talking about the web in 93 – the smell of the edge…
.@jzellis This is precisely the power of his work: “this might indeed be the best of all *possible* worlds.” We must address that with ideas
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/629089921471545344
aug 2015 – podcast interview .. BLOCKCHAIN, SMART CONTRACTS AND THE SOCIAL NEED FOR JOBS.
(great links on this link – from Vinay’s talk …ie: 4 min – Augur – Predictive Market
6 min – on city of london replaced by code/robots
white collar automation – feynman talks about this.. ie: space shuttle report
7 min – the ability of human culture to take enormous tech benefit and maintain the same hierarchies we currently have is enormous.. we keep abusing the tech in such a way that you wind up with the same stratification rather than having these enormous leaps of efficiency
10 min – 30 yrs for things to shift… that inertia is social inertia.. we could do things in radical ways.. but the decision makers unramp tech that preserve them and fight against potentially disruptive.. right up to selling out present for future.. and that’s where it disrupts/unfolds..
12 min – so we get people in the city doing all this paperwork…
on b ness – expanding since computers..
15 min – boys from the blackstuff
17 min – on nerd reich
19 min – on nerds being merciless (from their oppression)
20 min – wise life work strategy –
adaptation: no strategy to combat negative equity… mortgages. govt sacrificing huge parts of function of economy to keep house prices high.. london.. 3 stories high.. ny.. 5 stories high.. but we won’t pass building codes for that to happen… ie: housing problem being broken is what’s making the top richer
john draper – begging for medical expenses… after created/fixed things.. forgotten.. ie: howard, a hole list of my heroes have wound up in that position … (so ethereum)
29 min – on ethereum like peer inc sharing… ie: so wikipedia-style shared space, but one that can’t be changed.. not being changeable as important…
36 min – get all computers together and can begin to provide services that used to be only the states could do
all good – for interoperability ness.. but perhaps we question those services as well.. (taking advantage of tech leaps we could be taking advantage of).. ie: perhaps make all this paperwork irrelevant.. monetary, people documentation, et al
39 min – Lloyd: it is when… and also.. i don’t know why i’m so attached to understanding what we will do instead.. i suppose because i’ve found myself on the edge of this.. ie; i’ve given up on b..
a nother way ness – whatever we want… radical econ if we must keep track
40 min – in that setting.. the stuff that you’ve given up on is basically the stuff you’ve already done.. if you’re wrong you can change your mind.. if you’re too early you’re stooped.. that most of my life is translating human geniuses to human speech… that’s new..
42 min – on google’s vast autistic employees… different kinds of people are now turning out to be the assets.. shift in who is important.. not just in what’s being done..
again – ugh.. for what..? ie: stock.. pr…?
agree with – all people.. but let’s go beyond..
43 min – i will carry a question for 5-6 yrs.. then conclusion is simple. but to get space to do that kind of thinking.. i’ve had to get out of economic activity.. so now back in i have to ask.. am i doing innovation.. or am i handle turning.. i’m certainly part of process that is doing world innovation.. but am i innovating inside of that..
hmm. luxury ness for all. let’s do this first. graeber min/max law.
45 min – how long people remain rational before system goes wang.. on how much energy those people have fighting within system.. ie: london taxi – inside i completely relax. i don’t do the 10 min last walk thing.. because 10 min of not worrying about anything changes how i do things.. increases rather than reduces stress.. (not so in georgia) – london taxi drivers have to do the knowledge, uni degree, to memo the streets.. perfect example of industry that is remaining irrational.. and still have plenty of fight in them… but in last 6 mos i’ve had to start correcting cab drivers.. using my phone.. so gradually knowledge base being eroded..
47 min – the industry remaining irrational in face of incoming tech…
phase 1 – pretending not happening; phase 2 – losing jobs
49 min – on wanting to help out taxi cabs.. because want to keep them..
50 min – crossbow capable going through armor – socially disruptive.. so being a knight not so great anymore
53 min – on smart contracts – i first heard of in 1999 – ignored bitcoin – just a currency – asked myself – am i the kind of person that buys my money then sells to greater fools. so no. and then ethereum.. once you have smart contracts you can build better structures
57 min – enormous complexity/infrastructure.. scripted on top – weinberger‘s.. scripting is power.. clue train et al
1:02 – mapping these gradients of tech – next big job. the psych and political position.. where if ie: your tech is controlled by others.. what your limits of stepping in are..
@leashless – as predicted.. Bitnation Registers First Refugees on the Blockchain http://t.co/fMzrVhhT9aOriginal Tweet: https://twitter.com/TheAnalytic/status/645713581720272896
@petrakramer “We’ve never had enough jobs for 7.3 billion people. Unemployment is the natural and basic state for man” @leashless youtube.com/watch?v=a8b-bA…
B is world’s 3rd oldest profession (prostitution, politics, B) .. particularly: B’s that handle resource allocation for our society.. automating w/in society necessary for future progressthe thesis is radical so the delivery should be conservative..bureaucrats and blockchains
problems in society tech creating economics creating culture.. problem of databases talking to other databases has never been solve..database never intended to interoperate..
databases store what org considers fact. on network – everything we hear on the network is hearsay/gossip.. taking external stuff (from somebody else’s world model) that into your org is like getting a brain transplant than learning something. result: even in networked society.. all info in silos of people that won’t talk to each other.. ie: when you move house.. you have to re address each one.. inputting same data over and over again.. entirely tech artifact… doesn’t kill anybody.. but sign of deep disfunction
blockchain that underlies bitcoin simply a database that works like a network.. or network that works like database.. proves that it works.. everyone happy with it.. except banks… one project that came about: ethereum with the smart contract. blockchain ensures everyone sees same piece of software.. if software inside blockchain.. what comes out is consensus of what software does… so computation on societal level.. rather than individual asking you to trust them… genuinely democratic software. .. confidence across whole of society
this is new – old model/before it was software runs in silo – people running silo tell you what software says. in open source.. modified a bit.. if computer said no.. could examine source code .. still have issues around security/trust about hardware et al… so this is new stuff: notion that entire society can participate/audit..what is a blockchain
- 70s: databases
- 90s: networks
- network/database interop problems
- blockchains good networked databases
- smart contracts store software in blockchains
what is a bureaucrat
- an imperial tax collector
- works for the people
- i modern democracy/socialism
- but B=imperialsm
never been repurposed for democracy… incentive for tearing down B structure w/o taking down society
- there is on B who works for you – agency problem
what is transparency
- law you can read
- open sessions in court
- name who made decisions (always systems decision… no one has to get fired)
- public analysis of fact
- learning changes decisions (so need mechanism that adapts)
what are our options
- blockchain basic income
- identify each citizen
- transparent payments
- transparent spending
- we could fully understand how people use basic incom
(16 min in shorter) this is a jump – sci fi ish to see what you think
3:10 (15 min in shorter) – can it really be that easy…try basic income at whole of society level..
(17 min in shorter) – take new tech – implement ie: basic income on top of laboratory ie: blockchain.. code literally is the law..
3:14 (24 min in shorter) – lacking ability to test new things in society… silicon valley artificial islands.. to experiment w new forms of govt… could find something that works better.. but problem… how to get land et al.. and who watches the watchmen..
3:15 (25 min) – i’d love to see the experiment tried.. but i think it’s quit risky.. we can’t solve problems quickly if have to establish new nation state every time.. et alwhat i like idea that we could do lots of experimental stuff inside democracy by using transparency tech (blockchain) to de risk experiments in govt.. fundamental transparency breakthrough… ability to document for future generations… experimental governance – we clearly need it.. ability to turn off easily if doesn’t workwe have to get better at learning inside democracies..
(26 min ) – blockchain tech an inherently useful part of learning w/in democracies… simply about transparency…something w/any political persuasion can apply..
3:18 – (27 min ) experimental govt largely de risked and neutral because of transparency aspect
3:19 – euan semple facilitating panel – lee bryant – on mistake to be anti-company.. but that phase is gone and we are struggling to see relevance of institutions/companies3:23 – david orban – on organizations vs organisms… on ceasing to exist as we were before… ie: obama pledging to close guantanamo and 8 yrs later.. most poweful human on planet can not close it.. what is the higher authority he appeals to..? B the systsem…3:26 – so we’re waiting for someone to come up with new story everyone will believe in.. then we’ll all flip over – Vinay – we’ve tried collective intelligence for a long time.. and not working.. linking wikipedia/linux back to founder… we’ve restored competition in a post democratic norm3:28 – on having fundamentally changed human nature3:29 – oh my david orban – when we had muscle energy – we had to have slaves.. solar energy is de centralizing3:30 – the attraction of not having another ism/ is inviting – euan3:30 – there are no good ideologies today.. they are all damaging.. ie: even inequality… result in tyranny.. lee bryant.. basic mechanics of evolution/competition/free-market-econ is actually pretty good. – when not subject to competition anymore… you don’t evolve/improve..
3:32 – is there such a thing as a gentle revolution in this.. can we incrementally move toward that future – Euan https://twitter.com/euan
ie: leapfrog a gentle revolution
3:35 – david – on society not being able to retrain every month..
3:37 – we’ve never had enough jobs for 7.3 bill people. unemployment is the natural/perm condition of man – Vinay – we only produce illusion of employment by pulling 25% of world’s resources into 5% of world’s population..
3:38 – do we find whole new different ways to add value to each other – Euan3:39 – why do we even need to add value to each other.. why can’t we just exist.. the notion people need to be working/generating value is all colonialism – work is not the natural condition of man – Vinay3:39 – asking lee about re humanizing work – euan – i like to work – lee.. money is consequence.. not purpose… money totally irrelevant.. david3:42 – the humanizing work thing…lee – for the people that now have to work.. to send kids to good schools et al
3:44 – lee on google’s change from don’t be evil to don’t disobey the law3:51 – audience: money as convention is major obstacle.. if get rid of concept of money3:51 – vinay’s answer: history (rather than numbers in money) that are carried in a thing.. if you carry more info/richness.. money becomes irrelevant… doesn’t get you away from scarcity.. but a more sophisticated map of what we lack..
3:54 lee on answering.. will this work out – he says – of course.. the amount of freedom we have compared to 100 yrs ago – we’re having fun.. there some we can solve, ie: some of the inequality ones.. this is all going to be fine, don’t worry about it….
I am absolutely convinced I am asking the wrong question at the wrong level of generality about some fundamental things. How to change that?
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/662245901474353152
we need you.
to be you.
By the end of this article, you’re going to understand blockchains in general (and Ethereum, a next-generation blockchain platform, in particular) well enough to decide what they mean to your life.
As is so often the case, to understand the present, we have to start in the past: blockchains are the third act of the play, and we are just at the beginning of that third act. So we must recap.
1\ The actual blockchain story starts in the 1970s when the database as we currently know it was created: the relational model, SQL, big racks of spinning tape drives, all of that stuff.
Years passed as people struggled to get the real world into databases using knowledge management, the semantic web, and many other abstractions. Not everything fit, but we ran society on these tools anyway. The things which did not fit cleanly in databases got marginalized, and life went on. Once in awhile a technical counter-current would take hold and try to push back on the tyranny of the database, but the general trend held firm: if it does not fit in the database, it does not exist.
We live in these boxes, as pervasive as oxygen, and as inflexible as punched cards.
2\ The second act is started by the arrival of Tim Berners-Lee and the advent of the web. It actually starts just a hair before his arrival. In the late 1980s and early 1990s we get serious about computer networking. Protocols like Telnet, Gopher, Usenet and Email itself provide a user interface to the spanning arcs of the early internet, but it’s not until the 1990s we get mass adoption of networked computers, leading incrementally to me typing this on Google Docs, and you reading it in a web browser.
But the databases and the networks never really learn to get on. The Big Iron in the machine rooms and the myriads of tiny little personal computers scattered over the internet like dew on a cobweb could not find a common world-model which allowed them to interoperate smoothly. … the hard problem is getting databases working together, invisibly, for our benefit, or getting the databases to interact smoothly with processes running on our own laptops.
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Those technical problems are usually masked by bureaucracy, but we experience their impact every single day of our lives.
There’s no sense of using real computers to do things, only computers abused as expensive paper simulators. Although in theory information could just flow from one database to another with your permission, in practice the technical costs of connecting databases are huge, and your computer doesn’t store your data so it can do all this work for you. Instead it’s just something you fill in forms on. Why are we under-utilizing all this potential so badly?
The answer, as always, is in our own heads. The organizational assumptions about the world which are baked into computer systems are almost impossible to translate. The human factors — the mindsets which generate the software — don’t fit together. Each enterprise builds their computer system in their own image, and these images disagree about what is vital and what is incidental, and truth does not flow between them easily. When we need to translate from one world model to another, we put humans in the process, and we’re back to processes which mirror filling in paper forms rather than genuinely digital cooperation.
it all boils down to mindset in the end. Although it looks like ones and zeros, software “architects” are swinging around budgets you could use to build a skyscraper, and changing something late into a project like that has similar costs to tearing down a half-made building. Rows upon rows upon rows of expensive engineers throwing away months (or years) of work: the software freezes in place, and the world moves on. Everything is always slightly broken.
Over and over again, we go back to paper and metaphors from the age of paper because we cannot get the software right, and the core to that problem is that we managed to network the computers in the 1990s, but we never did figure out how to really network the databases and get them all working together.
There are three classic models for how people try and get their networks and databases working together smoothly.
First Paradigm: the diverse peers model – directly connect machines together, and work out the lumps as you go.
all ie’s financial?
2nd: Hub and Spoke: meet the new boss – cut through the exponential (well, quadratic) complexity of writing software to directly connect peers, and simply put somebody in charge.
3rd: Protocols — if you can find them – an idea so good that it gets people to stop arguing about how to do things, and just get on with it and do them.
when the protocol gambit works, what’s created is huge genuine wealth — not money, but actual wealth — as the world is improved by things that just work together nicely. Of course, SOAP and JSON-RPC and all the rest aspire to support the formation of protocols, or even to be protocols, but the definitional semantics of each field of endeavor tend to create an inherent complexity which leads back towards hub and spoke or other models.
Blockchains — a fourth way? – an alternative to getting databases synchronized by printing out wads of paper and walking it around.
Bitcoin took the paper out of that system, and replaced it with a stable agreement (“consensus”) between all the computers in the bitcoin network about the current value of all the accounts involved in a transaction. It did this with a genuinely protocol-style solution: there’s no middleman extracting rents, and no exponential system complexity from a myriad of different connectors. The blockchain architecture is essentially a protocol which works as well as hub-and-spoke for getting things done, but without the liability of a trusted third party in the center which might choose to extract economic rents. This is really a good, good thing.
We call it “distributed consensus” but that’s just a fancy way of saying that everybody agrees, in the end, about what truth (in your bank balance, in your contracts) is.
Ok, so what about Ethereum?
“beyond the paper metaphor” approach to getting databases to work together even further than bitcoin. Rather than replacing cash, Ethereum presents a new model, a fourth way. You push the data into Ethereum, it’s bound permanently in public storage (the “blockchain”). All the organizations that need to access that information — from your cousin to your government — can see it. Ethereum seeks to replace all the other places where you have to fill in forms to get computers to work together.
smart contracts are one of the most powerful aspects of the Ethereum system
Crowdfunding potentially gives us access to risk capital backed by deep technical intelligence, and invested to create real political change. If, say, Elon Musk could access the capital reserves of everybody who believes in what he is doing, painlessly selling (say) shares in a future Mars City, would that be good or bad for the future of humanity?
huge assumption – that we are currently acting like natural human beings.. ie: many might follow shiny mars ness.. when it’s not really what they want..
Building the mechanisms to enable this kind of mass collective action might be critical to our future. (e.g. See Coase’s Blockchain youtube video)
this video is noted/highlights above – fintech conf..
Ethereum offers is a “smart contract platform” which takes a lot of that expensive, difficult stuff and automates it.
So what do we mean by world computer? In essence, Ethereum simulates a perfect machine — a thing which could never exist in nature because of the laws of physics, but which can be simulated by a large enough computer network. The network’s size isn’t there to produce the fastest possible computer (although that may come later with blockchain scaling) but to produce a universal computer which is accessible from anywhere by anybody, and (critically!) which always gives the same results to everybody. It’s a global resource which stores answers and cannot be subverted, denied or censored (See From Cyperpunks to Blockchains video on youtube).
Yes, fraud is still possible, at the edge of the digitial, but many kinds of outright banditry are likely to simply die out: you can check the blockchain and find out if the house has been sold twice, for example. Who really owns this bridge in Brooklyn? What happens if this loan defaults? All there, as clear as crystal, in a single shared global blockchain. That’s the plan, anyway.
still so financial focused.. no?
at devcon1 – day 5
Vinay starts at 7:55
on .. back in the day.. 90s crypto era.. we were as excited about gpg being the tool to change the world.. like people are with blockchain now.. right up until 9/11
7:58 – on how many .. even at devcon – are not encrypting.. after 20 yrs in.. first platform problem.. no really clear model of how one would do investment of public goods..
if you can’t fund public works in a collab way.. don’t have enough infrastructure.. and end up inside regulatory environment hostile to what people want to build..
8:01 – 1\ problem didn’t keep funding going.. classic way govt solved is thru taxation.. but for us…we have to keep crowdfunding
astra – taxation as crowd sourcing..
we needed volunteer taxation… for public works
ethereum – don’t yet have institutional consciousness of ordinary people that …continue to inject money
2\ identity infrastructure… everyone working on identity projects that don’t know of each other.. so many working on it.. and still not there
8:09 – 2 problems: 1\ when trust systems began to corrode we didn’t rebuild 2\ solution to corp world ie: https.. but not one for individual
8:11 – on repeat.. bunch of guys get together.. hack solution good enough for industrial… but not enough business model to maintain funding… and/or not just run out of money but run out of smart.. can you see parallels to what we’re doing now..? yes.. so how do we make sure we don’t spike funding at beginning then run out.. if you don’t figure out how to pay for re figuration re invention of tools.. you lose trust..
user interface.. on security sucks.. usually the security model is what sucks.. gpg – can’t attribute key to a person.. so 2 step mapping problem… building interface for that a nightmare.. can’t fix security at user interface level.. got to be fixed at fundamental level..
3\ generative complexity – cyber punk vision was that 1-1 was going to result in magical ability to construct complex social structures that would eventually rise to being institutions… but doesn’t work that way.. any degree of complexity.. ends up being meta structures on top of (original) structure.. no good tools for handling meta complexity…
8:19 – what we have in ethereum is an amazing set of mega functions.. ie: swiss army light saber.. we’ve got the ability to generate in the form of meta structures.. which should pay for public works necessary to build the rest of the machinery.. tax/tithe like payments… put money in hands of people that will spend lives rebuilding tools..
or – what if most of that work we determine as irrelevant.. at least lighten this load.. no?
8:21 – would be simple if utility needed was funded by public works.. what we’d like is to chip at these things over time and build more and more interesting things .. and can only do that if funding is ongoing as public works for people working on it…
we understand that keeping these systems running is about ongoing innovation.. coop.. if we build this road to future end up needing systems that look like local govt… ie: we have a bug in this.. who fix it; how to keep paying everyone
cyber punks had nothing between open source and salary… what bitcoin created was an enormous spike of innovation… profit from that turned into ethereum.. if we can use this wonderful meta machinery we have…
a world in which we have non-state public goods.. & more efficient to do what state does..
8:25 – when i say social contract.. i don’t necessarily mean smart contract. .. a conscious willingness to put back into the game..
how to get into a position that people understand.. better world is possible and that these tools are a like to ie: wikipedia… a global public work/good
8:28 – q: how to drive global adoption.. a: now doubling every 3 months.. i think we’re worrying too much about adoption.. and not enough about fundamental value… we’re basically getting adoption like a house is burning.. once there are usable dapps..
8:29 – q: who gets to direct where 1% is gathered and what’s done with it.. a: Vitalik – are we a democracy or what … how to do these things
8:31 – guest – musician – Imogen Heap – realizing blockchain could get money to my wallet instantly.. ie: now i have to take out loans until payment… how to sustain the artists of the future.. in mycelia… spore is a smart contract…. people can be invested in you… ie: i would love to say.. anyone under 16 can have my music free on any platform…
8:44 – Vitalik closing out.. saying how the diversity aspect of the community has changed so much since last year.. and that the community is his favorite part of the whole thing..
“I am excited precisely because we do not know what we have created” –@leashless shines brilliant with this statement.
“the technology has gotten far, far ahead of our ability to explain or communicate the technology” –@leashless‘ take on @ethereumproject
io dance ness
I have a cold. I am burned out and grumpy.
I am doing some of the best work of my career, smoothing adoption of radical technologies.Here is my talk on blockchains from the Future Cities Catapult https://twitter.com/leashless/status/669660313852223489?s=09 … second half on machine magic!@bercobeute So I get as far as databases -> blockchains here twitter.com/leashless/stat… I just need to tack on the smart contract / worldputer
@leashless hello! would love to talk to you about maybe speaking at ted next year … what’s the best contact? thanks thanks, helen
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/HelenWalters/status/672080882778447873
What holds you together through enlightened states is Unfinished Business. It provides the (arbitrary) meaning for a Youness to exist around
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/673519712291168256
courage of absurdity – john holloway – et al
vinay on identity:
Another thousand words on the end of the Identity piece
(at the end, the Biometrics and Blockchains section)
The piece is turning into a right old grind, but I feel that when all is said and done it will really help clarify the space and help things
The case that I’m going to make is that the identity debate is magnetically drawn to two opposing poles:
Humans as things identified by their bodies, vs
Humans as intangible, ever-shifting narrative beings.
Our challenge, in creating software to enable people to use or manifest their identity,..
so www ness..imagining something like blockchain (only because vinay is *saying it’s the means to get databases and networks to dance) used as a facilitator/scraper of data (from self-talk as data) to pool on some…. type… platform ish.. app/chip ness
On one hand, a world in which people are things and are serialized and tracked like all other things. On the other hand, a liquid world in which defrauding Grandma on eBay never, ever feeds back to a person’s dating profile, even after convictions.
on the other hand.. everyone so busydoing something else and grounded by everyone ness… ie: have to have everyone…. to have ps in the open and io dance ness.
deeper w/.. in the city. as the day. .. ie: alex getting me to try out a placebo chip ness… otherwise agenda is baked in..
There is something in the whole which is beyond description.
If we are, in some sense, our relationships, and our relationships (at least some of them) only exist on Facebook, then something very odd indeed is happening to our identity.
add note here on doc:
perhaps a magnification of what’s been going on for years..no? wilde et at – most people are other people. so not only have we gotten to a grave not-us ness.. most things we see as problems (that we then spend our days pre-figuring/pre-cautioning) are a result of that. perhaps we keep missing that instead.. they could be counted as irrelevant.
so thinkg.. way beyond fb.. ie: science of people in schools ness.. perpetuate/ing not us ness. in desperate need of detox.. where we can be still enough to hear/be ourselves.. not because of selfishness.. because that’s what the world needs most. each one of us matters to oneness..
so perhaps.. again.. self-talk as data.. via some app/chip is our mechanism simple enough..
I want to posit that there is simply no solution to these questions without building out a really extensive new theory of identity, and that such a theory is going to have to compromise with the philosophical abyss presented by the gap between who we think and feel we are, and the identities that the world generates for us on a more-or-less ad-hoc basis, without our say so or so much as a by-your-leave other than, perhaps, accepting an occasional EULA.
yes. let’s. systemic change… leap frog even.. to a nother way to live.
You could even argue that the IP address is providing much the same kind of accountability. But, in practice, there are so many users and so few administrators, and such unwillingness to go after abuse that – unless the matter is criminal, and in many cases, even if it is criminal – there’s simply nobody to go to.
perhaps why it won’t work unless it’s everyone.. and unless everyone is free to do something else…
We cannot actually manage the reputation databases all that well – scandal, hearsay and gossip penetrate into people’s record far too easily – and if these systems have something resembling the weight of law (at least common law) in everyday life, there are clearly huge consequences to even the occasional accidental false report, or intentional and malicious contamination of the history data.
The better able we are able to identify people, the more certain we must be that the identity databases which back up those conclusions are flawless.
I don’t think that’s going to be an easy job at all.
why are we identifying people.. seems just for justice/punishment.. et al…
ie: most of doc seems to be focused on how to take care of badness/bad guys.. well what if we get to the root of that instead… call bad/ness irrelevant..
then perhaps… not so hard..
I strongly suspect that the paradoxical nature of DNA – as an identifier, but also as deep insight into the biology and possibly psychology of the person identified – is going to be a defining quandary of the 21st century. As our tools rapidly evolve to allow us to use DNA, can business, government and society keep up and create countervailing protections and indirections, keeping us safe from the transparent nature of at least some of our genes?
again – ps in the open ness. what if business, govt .. society… is totally not us. what if we make them irrelevant.. make privacy.. security.. irrelevant.
The same kind of biometric hashing can be applied to fingerprints, iris scans and various other kinds of measurements of the body, with differing degrees of success, confidence and precision.
getting us back to beginning…
The case that I’m going to make is that the identity debate is magnetically drawn to two opposing poles:
Humans as things identified by their bodies, vs
Humans as intangible, ever-shifting narrative beings.
The “public profile on a blockchain” model just does not seem to have the kinds of properties we want our societies to have: it’s the wrong kind of transparency. There’s an essay at least this length on different kinds of transparency. It’s probably already been written by somebody who sees the world mainly through that lens:
perhaps we’re looking for the wrong thing.. perhaps we look instead to what we could be doing with our day.. all of us. and trust that. so that we don’t have to pre-figure, pre-plan, pre-caution,… our days away..
I would say, rather, that we need to shun computer systems that make us think such things are needed.
tweets (i picked out) from a stream dec 21
Creative distress is distressing. The identity piece I’ve been working on is driving me mad. I’ve got 2 conclusions docs.google.com/document/d/1pf
Reification is a complex word: compare en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reificati… to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reificati… But it is super important in the identity debate
So the identity we want in blockchain land is a history of my actions, and the continuation of this record, not a third party profile of me.
Obviously my own account of my actions must be partial: I am a subjective entity But partial-and-proven is stronger than partial-and-passing
But this is only fully compelling in an environment where speech acts are performative and need nobody to validate them.
self-talk as data. never provable. but closer than we are now.. because everyone would be more themself from doing something else.. as the day. trust that that’s enough. [avedon truth law]
idiosyncratic jargon.. keeping those not really interested in you.. from messing with you.. but again.. that’s minimal if taken w/in game plan of a nother way..
dna as a template of our being…
in Siddhartha‘s – emperor of maladies.. perhaps our dna’s are cancerous enough that we need to create a rna – artificial/augmented identity.. detox\ing us back to us.. facilitating the chaos of getting us back to natrualness… back to self-organizing ness
The second is that I’m wired for very tight relationships with quite small numbers of people. I need to see inside their heads to trust them
self-talk as data.. culture of trust... back from the day care centers..
“Maybe 10% of the people in our society were born from a database match.” https://t.co/Nc2lEe4dcg So yes it really does matter how it works!
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/681825657446363136
dec 2015 lecture – data in 21st cent
the way we decide something.. as an individual or a society… we could call it a mechanism for choosing things..
thinking of zittrain at 41 min (on talk with frank) – what kind of human has qualifications to decide…
ie: mechanisms.. auction, democracy, … we often get a mechanism the reify it.. forget we made a decision to get here.. and just assume ie: democracy is a 4 yr cycle… mechanism we forget were mechanisms…
fashions in data: fast data (hft); big data (now); immutable data (tomorrow)
6 min – how big does it have to be to be big data… ie: if only a few orgs can handle it.. and takes lots of money… largely.. an elite thing… something others do…
immutable data – problematic… because anyone can play but no one understands.. super complicated.. but all complexity is hidden… biggest thing… go to internet.. find bitcoin wallet…
now done a transaction that’s stored for centuries…
think: how simple access to that is relative to fast and big
9 min – i would guess – 3-5 yrs.. that every apple device has some kind of blockchain based something…. casual access to blockchain… (ways of making data sets permanent)
10 min – generation shift of data… tomorrow .. there’ll be another kind… iot is a good candidate..
11 min – data – what is it good for… Maybe 10% of the people in our society were born from a database match.
if our forebearers knew this.. they would have gone crazy: how would you make machines to match people..
13 min – internet dating service.. a mechanism for many things.. but one of which is making other human beings.. humans that are matched are humans that it is most profitable for dating site to match.. is that good..? makes me a little nervous..
pure hypothesis… maybe dating sites match those who won’t match because then they’ll come back to the site.. ie: losing customers to successful relationships.. this is the law of capitalism at a biopolitical level…
if this is a mechanism leading to 10% of people.. we shouldn’t be surprised if things get a little weird after a while..
or… if not out for profit… ie: if app chip ness… things would get much better… more natural… after a while… ie: know each other .. know self… better… for better matches..
18 min – diff mech/algo for matching people.. results in diff human beings…
giving people what they want rather than what they need…
esp when most of us are not ourselves… don’t know what we want or need
19 min – go back to previous method: geo vicinity and amt of avail alcohol….. there hasn’t been an icelander conceived sober in 700 yrs..
20 min – we didn’t evolve with alcohol.. one radical shift in the way humans hook up
21 min – on arranged marriages… so clearly lots of options/mechanism… whether one works less well can be argued… but whether natural and unnatural.. would have to go back pre agriculture…
22 min – generation after generation of these mechanisms that are all artificial
does it not seems peaks in life are young people around fire…
23 min – who can operate data: individ’s; companies; states; coops/unions/etc
24 min – imagine if state got on top of this – red plenty (book) – what if … industrial socialism.. worked ish
25 min – once you can solve the traveling salesman problem.. you can solve everything..
what if sales is irrelevant
imagine if russians got through.. everything tapped, everything to credit.. know from data… alcoholism rate doubles.. bad for econ… you calculate econ cost to each broken marriage… then somebody says.. why don’t we make marriages that don’t break… ie: state marriage bureau…
(you laugh but) remember what i said about reifying the model… imagining that now is the natural state of human beings..
what if it worked.. what if it was a good way for people to find partners… what if people did it preferentially…
what are the incentives for the state to arrange marriage… probably permanent relationships… so which would we choose.. the one that wants customers coming back… or one that wants us to stay together..
30 min – ie: imagine enormous amount of data on relationship success.. not so crazy… genome project et al… because sharing data.. could bring about betterness..
31 min – this constant drive of young to drive old crazy…
32 min – so data commons on relationships… could commission people to build tools.. incentivized to do what’s good for you rather than state or capitalism…
33 min – if only data i have access to is my own.. i’m not gaining much
vrm – vendor relationship management… publish profile.. etal… anonymously…
echo chamber ness…
to do it you need individuals acting in own best interest together… w/out middle man/state that is distorting for own benefit
this really shows how deeply data controls our lives… not just shoes.. but men/women… volunteer to machines we think they can do better than ourselves… culture around us naturalizes this
35 min – the labor we’d have to put in.. huge.. but results may be better… than what we have..
energy ness.. eudaimoniative surplus ness
36 min – ability for human beings to express their needs cleanly/clearly w/o being pulled by service providers/culture… is something that i think is a relatively new invention… market does a poor job of that.. but better than what previous has doesn’t… commons… getting better… ie: wikipedia… toward b of wikipedia..
if possible to have large scale coop behavior… individ’s seek self-interest together w/o market mechanism through coop sharing of data… i think something extremely interesting might come out of that.
dang. v. self-talk as data..
37 min – if we move into position.. where we have a much more fundamental grip on reality… own needs but together.. we could create much cleaner running systems…
so future.. systems w/strength of big data.. but via small data.. then gets into policing/managing that..
so there’s where we need – something else to do.. so that policing et al becomes irrelevant..
39 min – technology horizons.. transformations blockchain; (weak) ai; robots iot drones; vr ar
43 min – whoa v – talking checking hw by machine..? whoa.
49 min – in future … stallman will be the ghandi that worked…. people discount his work because he’s autistic and difficult… read freedom to read…
if we want to get rid of the present..we need a new future… a vision of that..
52 min – how we protect privacy in a block chain world.. is the next big shift…
or.. how privacy becomes irrelevant in an eudaimoniative surplus world…?
53 min – if you created a system that had accurate incentives.. less of a tendency to lie to trick algorithms.. but still tendency to trick other people.. the problem is that people will always find ways to game the system..
whoa. do we know that.. ? i don’t think we know that.. reify ness here. i don’t think we’ve seen us as natural …
55 min – on smell.. and on the pill… fine dating.. then off pill.. biggest class action suit… everyone suing birth control pill..
57 min – what happens when you take very large genetic data sets and screening people by that
58 min – if we get really large data sets… and people overseeing it…
59 min – i don’t talk about labor much because we’re at the end of labor…
1:00 – on pendulum swinging where periodicity changes w/ tech…
mccarthy/snorderson (?)… organize/hack/make//2013 – netherlands… potcons work on decentralize society same as fablab…
adding page on small world network as… i finished Sacks‘ book and Vinay shares..
Turns out there’s a guy with an IQ of 126 and 5% or 10% of normal brain mass rifters.com/crawl/?p=6116 something amazing can be learned here
What if the words we use to describe emotions limit our understanding of ourselves as much as using Roman numerals crippled European math?
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/683843461301284864
no words.. beyond all the words..
and 25% of the population are mentally ill, 10% or something currently medicated. I think we need to re-examine everything :-)
what if we’ve simply inherited entirely wrong language to describe how we feel? Like… words that predate evolutionary biology?
If anybody wants to work in the way that I’ve worked, I’m documenting what I can of my process ala en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_… but I do less.
imagine 7 bill plus people doing this…self-talk as data.. as the day.
from mar 2014
[Bitcoin] Cannot be divorced from pre-existing political theory
6 min – amish closer to original thinking behind networks of communes.. if we had real networks of communes that worked that way.. bitcoin type currencies might be useful.. but if don’t have pre existing network of communes or anarchist society all that will happen is the capitalizsm will capture bitcoin and then bitcoin will become part of the same apparatus
7 min – to get out of trap – need to think about distinction between markets and free exchange.. illusion – free markets exist..truth.. free markets exist only when you have free people. free people will create a free market.. free markets won’t necessarily create free people…
if market where people are actually free.. they will choose free market ness… if you have an environ where people aren’t free and give them access to market.. will be market existing inside someone else’s regulatory market.. enormous distinction.. we don’t mean free market.. we mean governed market.. even if it looks free.
let’s do this first: free art-ists.
via Vinay (on asking him – is blockchain as you see it server dependent.. or can it replace ie: server farms…):
This depends on how blockchain scaling works out. Check out IPFS for something blockchain flavored that definitely can replace server farms.
Up ’till 5AM grinding out six or seven thousand words of dense argument about blockchains and the wider economy
And boldly suggest that the shift from competitive to cooperative may be as simple as having better mechanisms for sharing risk in business.
Dog Atheism, or searching for Schröodinger’s Dog
The Calculus: Newton vs. Leibniz for the soul of matter
Value Networks: where money really comes from
world too complex to represent w/money – gives examples *(trade agreements, interest, ownership).. so money embedded in legalities.. patters of encumbrance through contracts
? *are those givens..?
p 4 ish – The fact that the evolution of law so closely mirrors the processes which produce the complexity of our DNA is no mystery: it is an extension of all other facets of our primate behavior. Law, or at least the potential for law, is in our very DNA. Seeing law as a mechanism for resolving underlying conflicts of interest between evolving beings is another lens, a fundamental viewpoint from which to see the accretion of complexity in our legal systems.
thinking more siddhartha’s cancer than natural dna.. is potential for law in our dna? our is law a result of a mutation.. that we now see as a given..
p 7 – This is in keeping with nearly everything else happening in our culture right now, and not something to be scared of: complexity is a sign of evolution.
is it..? or might simplicity be a sign of evolution
But perhaps when we have learned a little more about biology and the complexity of our DNA, we can find biologically inspired models (biomimicry) of nature’s own complexity control solutions.
perhaps – embracing uncertainty/antifragility.. no control.. rather trust..
is that biomimicry..? learning from wildness..
There must be some long term answer to accreted complexity, or our bodies would have collapsed in their own near-infinite complexity.
accreted – grow by accumulation or coalescence.
perhaps long term answer .. rapid prototyping to slow ness
perhaps the beginning was the most complex.. and from there we simplify – human ness .. not necessarily machine ness
But, for now, expect a successful smart contract ecosystem to accrete complexity requiring AI-assisted lawyers to manage disputes.
? contracts to manage disputes..? when did this become assumption..
Do not be concerned: nearly every aspect of our modern civilization is engaged in the struggle to control complexity, and, so far, we are just about holding our own. We need better tooling and an awareness of the problem at a political level, but I think we are coping.
p 8 –
In my opinion, and this is a hotly contested point in many sectors, all money and indeed all systems of property are socially constructed. Usually that kind of thinking is a precursor to declaring that “property is theft” and an argument is made for radical redistribution. But I think a more gentle, historical approach is required: the society of today sees green paper as money, where four centuries before it would only accept gold. Instead of seeing social construction of money as an invitation to tinker, I view it as a narrative of continuous evolution and mutation, I think this view is more functional – social construction provides a theory of history, not just a theory of change. Courts ratify existing social practices in many cases, but on rare occasions actually lead boldly, and money and the creation of money are one area where the definitions of “legal tender” generally speaking are definitive: money is whatever the government says it is, usually more specifically what you can pay your taxes in. Until Bitcoin.
It’s much harder when the object we are discussing is already thought to be well understood, and words have hardened (reification again) into a solid, “real” concept. In these instances, the facts which contradict the common mental models we have are there, but they are subtle and hard to see. The result is that language can remain stuck for generations, or even millennia, locked in an inappropriate model which costs us every time we use the model. Sometimes it’s just a little slippage, and at other times it can be an avalanche. ….the world shifts and blends enough that we require new concepts to describe it. That’s the easy part.
The hard part is letting go of the old concepts, the things we are already certain of, what we already know.
or perhaps think we know.. and they aren’t certain.. another case.. in my mind for ps in the open relying on our embracing of idiosyncratic jargon
We are interacting with an existential unknown called “the present” and plotting our path to a future within it.
In order to steer this revolutionary period we are entering into, you have to wake up. That means taking nothing for granted, seeing the full weirdness of the systems and tools that we have in front of us in potentia, and most critically of all, waking up to the unimaginable strangeness of the tools, systems and technologies that we use to operate the world today.
In times of technological change this grand, everything is up for grabs.
here’s why the calculus (understanding not only celestial motion, but a huge class of problems involving dynamic processes: pressure, temperature, springs, elasticity, anything involving curves rather than straight lines, including sound, pressure, and light because the square or the cube is involved, rather than a linear extrapolation.) matters to us. Leibniz, basically, wanted to know God through Matter.
It was not until Lorenz and sensitive dependence on initial conditions, plus the pumping of variability into macroscopic systems from the quantum level, that the mechanical universe finally died.
But we might find purpose in recreating part of it for bringing order to the world of our *transactions, particular as finance seeks ever-greater risk to efficiently build a future quite unlike this one: a future in which we have transformed our technology base to create abiding peace and prosperity for all humans, in harmony with nature.
I genuinely believe that blockchains have the capacity to materially aid the creation of such a planet. Come with me on a journey to see why.
perhaps blockchains.. but perhaps only if (via you vinay) – we boldly call out irrelevants.. mutations.. ie: *measuring transactions
On the way to really getting to grips with what smart contracts are going to do to finance, and indeed to our ability to organize the material and people of the world into productive gestalts by all methods, we need to be able to see beyond cash flow.
beyond.. measuring transactions at all.. ie: use blockchain or the like.. to document.. but only as a ie: commonplace book and/or hyperlink and/or trail..
1\ for future use.. no math here..
2\ for present use.. only connections per choice here .. help people that have found (are finding) themselves find their people – 2 convos et al – hyperlinked for ongoing facilitations.. no measuring, no proving, ..
lovely fractal thinking… but emebedded in rigid words.. (ie: cash flow, ownership, company, ..) that perhaps are cancer mutants rather than natural dna.. need detox.. rna placebo implants..
i don’t understand why i learned this (pruning ness) from vinay.. and he still speaks of it.. seems to be swimming in things that are not us..
It’s important to think about creation (be it as simple as incorporation, or as complex as a suite of patents embodied in a multi-company tax efficient machine) as something that precedes investment, and equity is created by dividing up what has been created among owners.
? – like that..
The wealth of accumulated profit can then be re-invested, which is a little strange if we are thinking in physics terms (momentum doesn’t turn around to be jounce… unless maybe two things collide?), but the analogy holds: the actions higher up the “stack” are the mothers of lower down factors.
Above investment there is an entire matrix of ideas, hints, ideations which turn into curiosities and thence into action: the domains of science fiction and childhood dreams. But a cultural map of how dreams become engineering realities in the high street is beyond our current scope.
? – perhaps why we need a leapfrog
Note too the lag between layers: transactions take time. It takes time to exchange capital for investment, and to turn investment into productive capacity, and so on down the chain. This is why people watch TechCrunch to understand the dotcom scene – where the investment is today, given some latency and some lag, is where the productive capacity will be when the engineers are finished, and later on it hits the market. There is time lag at each step, as it takes months to build productive capacity, and markets take time to build, and capital takes time to accumulate.
even more why we need a leapfrog.. to something that shortens that lag time.. by calling out irrelevants.. with ongoing do overs..
sync matters.. or we’ll never see this potential.. so again … need to leapfrog.. we’re in such a muddle. for (blank)’s sake…
A lot of what is happening here is that the property rights models we have to hand correspond so poorly to the actual human nature of what is going on that we are left with oceans of inefficient failure, strife and conflict because we simply lack the laws and tools to smoothly and efficiently enable cooperation among the parties and partners that could be possible if we had better laws and tools.
perhaps mostly just tools.. ie: io dance via chip
there’s no doubt at all that projects often have hearts, and we have no legal way to recognize these people in joint stock companies.
perhaps the recognition ness is irrelevant.. once everyone is free… the freedom replaces urge(as mutation.. as not us) for recognition .. first clue – if you have to legalize it.. perhaps it’s not us.. ie: marriage
we seem to have plenty of imagination for moving property around, but very little for creating entirely new classes of property. Other than the Credit Default Swap or structured loans.
? new classes of property – perhaps non property…
There is an enormous flux between American business culture and the American military, a…. Coase looks at these zones of command and control as anomalies: if markets are efficient, why aren’t all large company jobs done by swarms of small companies in constantly shifting efficient markets.
The traditional answer to this is transaction costs and information processing costs: it’s simply too hard to organize a swarm.
So instead you regiment, pulling ideas from Taylorism and Fordism and Deming and all the rest, aiming for a statistical norming of performance (reliable! predictable!) and very, very high quality decisions about the future at the top. And that’s more or less where it stays during the golden age of American manufacturing might: huge companies, huge regimentation, and decades of sustained growth on the back of Cold War stability and then Pax Americana.
small world networks
small world network – huge to the shortening time between intention and action – diff mech that match people create diff kinds of human beings – perhaps making much of this (measurement of) transaction talk irrelevant..
jan 2016 – tweet from vinay.. on blockchain talk
I’m really happy with vimeo.com/153600491 I’m pretty sure that it’s the natural companion to medium.com/@ConsenSys/pro… for the real detail
(1 hour video)
9 min – the reason the nation states are exerting so much influence over internet.. because domain name system is a national system.. internet global…. result utter mess… we need to imagine a different history… ie: because traveling across world.. name things by country… ie: rather than country govt governing.. librarians saying.. topic doesn’t exist so no dd name
12 min – level of which web integrated in our lives… and we can’t see it.. ie: 1in 6 couples matched on net… 50s we would have thought this was 84 authoritarianism.
15 min – the repetidity of which that happened is jaw dropping…
17 min – it sounds like sci fi to us and we’re building it.. scale of investment with speed of change
20 min – what secures the energy consumption.. people doing mining.. unnecessary computation to prove truth… non of the scaling algorithms work with mining… mining is so inefficient.. if you scale it.. never going to work…
1970:sql 1990:internet 2000: blockchain
22 min – on solar.. and the need for us all to get off grid at same time.. rather than only ones that can afford it
23 min – no one knows yet how to run system at internet scale.. so still mining slow ness
24 min – on database and networks..
database basically silos… pkg api.. publish to web… interoperability goes through web databases… the reason this doesn’t work.. because hell is of the people.. *every org has own conception of the world.. 4 month… slowest part of org to change.. because highest reliability…. but all attributes of 70s database… are today’s database admins… treat database as sacricent… keeping interoperability at bay or extremely slow..
*this is the problem..
28 min – converter… ubiquitous… little bits of code… manually converting back and forth.. each one 10-20 000 dollars worth of work.. could be millions…
29 min – by time 5 org’s… 16 converters… 10 orgs … 50.. goes up geometrically..
30 min – want to take this slow.. because big thing of blockchain is that they solve this problem.. interoperability…… bitcoin is a side note.. as a result (of not having it yet).. we don’t do p2p…
31 min – so all the cohesion you’d expect from high tech society. ..just isn’t happening… ie: export to spreadsheet…. can’t to proper tech interoperability.. because we could never figure out how to get the database and network to play nicely…
taken us a full generation to figure out something that has features of both database and network… and some other features… we’re at the very early date… ethereum… only 4 months old…
34 min – how quickly are we going relative to previous generations…
35 min – hub and spoke… architecture is how we generally solve the bigger interoperability problems… enormously powerful… we don’t use always.. political control of hub intractable problem for human beings.. humans like to control own lives… we need completely trustworthy hubs.. and at this point we don’t know how to create them…
37 min – hub and spoke efficient for moneys… but no autonomy…. that’s why people were so excited about bitcoin.. didn’t go through hub…
so best of hub & spoke (cheapness of interoperability) and p2p (autonomy)…. in single unit
io dance ness
38 min – this is like discovery of democracy/free market.. it’s a tech mech that solves a political problem.. which rarely happens.. tech that mediates agreements…
39 min – expectation is that we’ll see real political change..
41 min – on ie: med system.. built on control… can’t sit around and decide which company will take care of what
42 min – trustless architecture – degovernance..
43 min – turning governance into degovernance systems is kind of radical.. but over and over again find possible once to loop… so no need for governance.. policy evaporate..
begs systemic change.. where the b ness becomes irrelevant.. what if the only governance/b we need is getting us out of the mess/mistrust/mutations. (jennifer/siddhartha – rna ness) … we’ve accumulated over the years of ie: manufactured consent et al.
back to – 1:05 – this coordination problem
and letting go of thinking we have to control the coordination… rather.. we have to get rid of the things blocking the natural coordination. perhaps blockchains biggest purpose is as a placebo ish rna.. yes.. helpful beyond that… but we may need it less the more we are us (as opposed to what we are today – not us)
44 min – blockchain… each chunk is time sequenced data (in bitcoin – block is 10 min w/in system) …
45 min – special relativity tells us there no such thing as instant now.. info propagates at speed of light… enough time for computer to do a bunch of transactions… while light in transit… no static instant now.. both existing… all this calculations happening faster than it’s possible to sync machines to agree what time now is
ie: google’s internal clock is an artificial now..transactions have no canonical order.. this is what happened to physics 100 yrs ago and we’re still trying to adapt..
47 min – if someone comes up that seems better.. switch to that.. .. order of transactions.. because have no correct order.. so just pick an order…
49 min – there’s not such thing as now.. so create a czar for network… turned it into a temporary czar… makes a temp decision..
50 min – once block is agreed upon.. cannot be changed… and every block secures next block.. that ordering of blocks gives a canonical history… nothing to reconcile… it’s just there…
51 min – since no real order (physics/relativeity)… we sequence in arbitrary and take order an publish as block.. if everyone ok.. move to next block… not magic..
the magic is the selection mech by which we pick the person to order the blocks that is fair and incentivized that people would do it.. such a tiny sliver of magic…
it is someone arbitrary picked… if everyone decided freely – might pick something diff.. but if all together… how to w/o creating center/cost. something looks like hub..but not hub qualities.. network but not costs…. tiny sliver of genius
53 min – smart contracts. – ie: microsoft excel… program in the cell (macros)… etherum is bitcoin with macros
55 min – most contracts are 2 dozen lines…
? – do we have to have contracts..?
57 min – 1st is bitcoin.. because obsessed with sovereignty – so build national bank.. central bank of internet… insane.. people did something completely impossible… the actual situation moved outside our conceptual model … struggling for language..
1:00 technical practice so far ahead of the cultural metabolism… faster you can get accurate conceptualization faster you can make decisions… .. focusing on how to explain tech fast enough.. to go from being invisible/unthinkable …to being domesticated to work..
1:01 – getting to so cultural saturated by so much tech change we can’t actually comprehend what is happening.. ie: is it a phone.. computer.. et al..
1:02 – build muscle to deal with tech change that moves faster than our cultural metabolism..
1:03 – hack: 1\ break in and steal 2\ old: horrendous chop job.. ….mining solution in bitcoin… was ugliest possible way of solving w/ computer…. nonsense.. but kind of nonsense in a wright brothers way.. got us into the air.. just had to prove flight was possible.. after flight possible.. minds come and say: that’s a terrible plane…
1:05 – that’s where we were… computer science had given up on this coordination problem… relativity says no.. the reason you need bitcoin is relativity… you get rid of the mining by using: proof of stake.. people prove serious about doing this stuff.. by betting reputation on the fact they’ll do it.. a trust and verify system…
but not finished yet…
1:07 – on technical back end.. it looks like a web site..
who verifies data is accurate in first place… 1/ take names… if lying .. prosecute.. solve trust problems w/ big stick 2\ use lots of software mech’s ie: have to sign each transaction… so can identify you
jan 2016 – EB114 – Vinay Gupta: From Lawyer Capitalism To Programmer Capitalism
we’ve had limited funding… i think this year will be scarce talent and abundant funding…
10 billion this year for blockchain, 1 million for ethereum… really broadbased push to get this tech into ecosystems… (ie: sinagpore)
5 min – very hard to pick winners… ie: p graham off on fb predicts..
6 min – resilience..my background is disaster – hexayurt – and – simple critical infrastructure map – ie: now 60 mill refugees… i worked with team who went on to do the ikea shelter.. that are now in syria… lybia..
9 min – for me.. the big thing is climate change… displacing people… 150 million people for permanent displacement….
10 min – role of cryptocurrency… small part… ie others.. passport… health records.. refugee can document all on blockchain… 100 mill people’s worth of that… hard to offer standard services.. forces accountability… helps people get across borders… then too.. get them money.. but blockchain as an accountability tech first..
13 min – mostly into this because i was a cypher in the 90s… quite into this… when i saw bitcoin.. ignored it.. just currency.. things just currency don’t produce social change… if want social change.. need smart contracts… once have smart contracts can build entirely diff world.
14 min – right now software exists… in companies… so software always has agency of those paying for it…. as a result.. software doesn’t change… once into smart contracts… software is in some sense relational… generates new architectures of trust…. last time this happened.. outcome was capitalism… smart contracts won’t be larger than capitalism… but may be next stage of capitalism development…
16 min – bucky calls what we have now.. lawyer capitalism.. value owned by lawyers… ie: u.s govt almost entirely made of lawyers… bucky says.. lawcap is parasitic.. ineffective… et al.. the notion you could go to tech cap… is pretty credible… say 15 yrs from now.. entirely credible… 100s of 1000s 10s of millions lines of software… making tons and tons of disputes resolved..
18 min – nothing ends up in court.. like pre cognitive compliance… can check before you do it…
19 min – international business is not going to remain caught up in nation state courts forever…
21 min – complex problem…. diff societies vote for diff kinds of wealth distribution.. in almost all societies.. in my opinion.. the democratic could vote for more equality if they wanted it .. but mostly don’t.. mostly want more opportunity…
22 min – world growing increasingly competitive/selfish… not seeing fundamental change.. more equal society.. until people use democratic power to create one.. basic truth.. people right now don’t care… so we still have to build world.. in spite of human nature..
human nature…? or human illness/disease… ie: we need detox.. and to do this in sync.. ie: leapfrog.. then we’ll be fine..
24 min – democracty – you don’t change rules of society until more than half want that change… requires enormous pressure form 25-40% to get change to happen…that’s the demo process… if you get smaller #’s to change.. not a represented democracy..
25 min – in areas where voters care.. they have no problem controlling political parties… ie: gun control in u.s. no problem keeping gun control where they want it..
26 min – really big pressure groups (guns/abortion) .. bigger than health care… climate…. what you’re dealing with here is apathy…
28 min – americans shocked by wealth distrib graphs.. shocked by how much on top… then if going to take money to distribute… they’re not for that…
29 min – if global look – if you make 35000 a year.. you’re part of 1%
32 min – very easy to do basic income with blockchain.. and easy to experiment with it on blockchain… quite in favor of blockchain as a prototype for radical changes in social policy.. allows all for/against to look at same data set to make future decisions…
34 min – iceland.. basic income tied to identity number… not used for identity but for convenience…
whether would make better society.. now sure.. 1\ redistributed wealth hasn’t worked.. 2\ redistributed power (bi doesn’t change power.. those in power just change rules) .. i think universal basic income.. but i think will create other problems..
37 min – on complexity becoming way more complex than it needs to be
39 min – smart contracts – as alter to lawyer capitalism.. cheaper.. more efficient.. et al…. 70-80% of disputes… resolving huge percentage of current law suits
42 min – cypher punk – back to 1970s – 90s pgp for privacy… struggle for legitimacy then washes out with 9 11… national security state going crazy… no one considers relevant except assange… snowden is where cypher finally big govt in a way that mattered.. showing govt as police state… and now repair…
47 min – why pgp such a fundamental invention… it’s really subtle.. throughout history only way to prove you knew/had a secret was to tell what it was.. one way around it.. ie: scientists making prediction… but to ridiculous to say.. but if came to fruition later.. wanted to knew when came up with it.. like a primitive form of a hash function.. a way of dating your hunches…
49 min – there’s always been use inside frameworks… economy turns into culture.. spending is speech… and protected by free speech rights… whole things in freefall
52 min – meta structures.. the tools cypher generated were point to point… https (?) was cypher punk..
54 min – people thought bitcoin was illegal – ie: satoshi – guy who created it… leaderless resistance.. actually rapidly embraced by govt/companies.. state has stopped thinking of this as a threat… state just seems to be adapting… ie: govt funds tor… seem more eager for this stuff to mature so they can use it
1:03 – if you want to see what govt has anxiety about – look at occupy
1:05 – only a matter of time that someone from silicon valley decides running world is better from white house… (steve, eric, elon)
1:08 – american govt meant to be a govt of laws not men – ie: why president has little power
1:09 – if majority of people didn’t want stuff.. there would be mass riots et al.. … the military industrial complex.. is representation of what average american wants…
1:10 – bad side of programmer capitalism.. bad robots et al… we’re already seeing programmer capitalism.. called nsa.. via our mobiles..
1:12 – whoa.. history of banana republic… up side… law encoded w/ software.. and software makes decisions most of time.. faster.. more objective… stable/predictable/transparent…
put all emphasis on accurate inputs..
what if.. we put all emphasis on inputs that matter… to a human .. to being… self-talk as data ness
1:15 – ie: on voting for bush again..showing most are ok with things..
so… the voting system isn’t working.. it’s spinach or rock ness…
nobody wants a fairer works except poorest of humanity.. which is 50% of humanity.. when people say want a fairer world.. usually means they want to be richer… bubble of privilege is collapsing.. and those benefitting from it.. white males.. are suffering most.. real revolution possibility of blockchain .. can show real evidence of how world works.. first facts.. then the decisions…
The homie @leashless elucidating 2016.transmediale.de/content/vinay-… on how we mechanistically reach post capitalism #ethereum twitter.com/rasmusvuori/st…
“decentralization of infrastructure is more or less a prerequisite fr any kind of non-violent revolution” https://t.co/Ushvjns8TZ @leashless
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/crisortunity/status/697159485161414661
ben vickers interviews vinay jan 2016
asking about hexayurt
what is the simplest thing that could possibly work?
@leashlessBrain fried. Rate of change significantly exceeds my capacity to integrate models. But I can’t let my thinking become incoherent. No way.But right now I feel completely fucked as the mental models tear down and rebuilt, neurons thrashing for coherence. The future is weird/hard
@leashlessI’ve lived as an alien my entire life. If I communicate in the forms natural to me, there are four humans I can converse with.
How and Why to Sell Ideas https://t.co/Cuzl3pxJtP – Interesting presentation by Vinay Gupta @leashless
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/AlexanderFisher/status/698670021069955072
jan 2015 – Ethereum ÐΞVcon-0: How to Sell Ideas
the more ethical the how.. the more you can take it at a high route path
the closer you are to truth.. the more deliverable the product becomes..of something that has truth at every level
once you’ve got a piece of news like that (hexayurt) you’re not in marketing bus if you like it or not…
capitalist discourse about product.. lying to people to get enough money to get something done.. but what’s done is 2% of what you said you’d do.. donor driven aid… because nobody really wants to think about ie: aids in africa.. no one pays attention…. transparency eaten away at every level.. delivery becomes corrupt
once you try to achieve social change through tech means… everything you do becomes exponentially more difficult.. people hole you at high standard… tiny early decisions.. dominate… ie: wikipedia..
5 min – changing behavior is name of game.. that decision point is function of all of your work
ideas are bigger than products (transactional exchange between two people) – things don’t have a future.. fixed in time and space.. ideas.. ripple through reality… idea gets bound into the culture.. i think blockchain is like that..
ideas are not monopolies…
what if we jump ship from this bell curve.. a do over
16 min – getting to point where enough people can decide if this is something they want – early adopters.. rest wait to see how it plays out.. so getting processing easy for decision making
19 min – on the need to constantly be explaining to people – his list.. make sure you understand and can explain it..
what if we don’t have to explain anything… what if we just do it.. model rather than tell.. design the change so that it’s not reliant on an explanation..
22 min – hardest part.. everyone has their own world model
24 min – it’s all strategy because we’re small and the world we want to change is huge
26 min – on logo.. strategic..
do we need a logo?
31 min – it’s people not like us that will bring the next jump…
ok then.. not chess.. not money.. kind of web sites.. but self talk as data..
32 min – show people a diff way to do things.. ie: physical short cut; get money to india..
so.. what if we’re showing people another way to live..
feb 2016 parts of stream:
So here’s the bottom line: there’s a critical window while the blockchain story is soft, uncertain when it could be tied to global democracy
o get that to hang together, though, it has to be viewed in terms of supersidiarity – what can *only* the global level do? Carbon etc.
I just don’t have the time, energy or resources to do the synthesis. There simply is not enough of me to go round this time. I dislike that.
To get to this thing in time to weld it into the blockchain story properly I’d need to stop almost everything else I’m doing, and Deep Dive.
@jacklord @leashless But what a powerful idea, to simply say, we could also route around this failing territory
so imagine there’s a nother way.. that many pieces seem to be falling into place for.. ie: you at this point, ycombinator willing to try, refugee and/or many other cities/places seemingly ready..
I’m partly assuming that documenting the flow of thought as I go will be feedstock for later software systems too
self talk as data…as the day. from all of us
smart contracts et al.. what if our thinking about security, voting, measuring exchanges, contracts, property…is what’s getting in the way. what if they are (could/should be) irrelevant (gupta roadblock law). we have the means now – so why don’t we use tech to coordinate/regroup/re self organize us.. rather than making b more efficient…
what if our thinking about consensus is what’s getting in the way. i’m seeing Louis‘s magnets pulling the puck. ie: why is there a puck. we have the means now – so why don’t we use tech to coordinate/regroup/re self organize us.. rather than keep on forcing us to consensus..
Realizing that I’m completely burned out and I need a weekend off. Which is a shame because I’ve got 42 emails to write & presentation to do
.@leashless Stay strong, my friend. First, find your center…
@kikilo How precisely do you think I got into this mess in the first place, my friend?
Blockchains from Amsterdam: by far thr best talk I’ve ever done. https://t.co/1OMIdvJyNL thanks @mbauwens @jaromil @brakkegrond thanks guys!
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/702978125538402310
(audio file.. can’t play… – hopefully video/audio out soon..from fiberfestival https://twitter.com/FIBERFestival
@leashless.@thejaymo a mirror of Blockchains from Amsterdam, the best talk I’ve ever done mirror.explodie.org/blockchains-fr…or two s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/files.howtoliv…
1950 ish – a de militarized computer – 1970- xql – math to bring order to chaos… create a multi dimensional cube.. abstract alg allows to take look at space in that cube… pull data out into something that looks like a spreadsheet… so revolutional.. took people 5 yrs to accept it 70-90 – xql ness…. working on machine wore white coat.. fibers could affect.. so very fragile..this set a mindset for data bases.. until begin of 80sright around 84 get micro computer revolution – these are appliances…. then lotus 123 first spreadsheet… computer w/ ledgers starts in 80s… imagine the disorientation…1990 – get networking as practical for work – no web yet.. the notion thing in doc could open doc wasn’t there yetweb – document centric – paper simulators – connection between data bases and doc centric.. is extremely weak… getting data into doc’s hard… getting docs into data even harder..mid 95 early 96 – people realize.. could make money in internet.. just no security… another 5 years till we get a solution w/encryption..we forget so quickly what was possible/impossible when tech arrives2010 – more or less all basic stuff there… roughly when bitcoin gets started… via cypher punks.. enormous prevalence of autism… important to know the people building thiswhy do we need govt.. building a central bank for internet…satoshi… left w/artifact …before data bases were similar.. but never communicated w/network.. not able to create shared model of reality… (ie: B keeping us separate)
distributed data – both like a data base and like a network – completely fusedso have single shared story of reality spread across all machine.. when changes one place changes everywhere… first did was central bank of internet.. single global currency.. like they re invented gold..get up to where we are.. 2015- 2016 – crazy how it works.. but even crazier how our govt works… ie: every four years et al..
don’t assume because the new stuff is weird that it’s any weirder than the old stuff…
tiny pieces of business logic.. pulled up on a block chain.. smart contract platform.. all kinds of simple/useful things.. still only at very beginning of story… bitcoin 7 transactions a sec, ethereum something like 20
now a scaled blockchain.. one that does 100 000 to mill transactions a second (like ie: visa) onto surface… ie: entire iot onto blockchain… like microsoft did w/azure.. could turn into global knowledge resource.. instead of nonsense you get every time you talk to your bank.
have something constituting by will of people and serves their purpose
this is where we have to separate sci fi from reality… if you tach computer to govern resources.. make life easier.. but not obvious this is replacement for gen ledgers (?) of govt… diff neurological make up of people.. we’re having discussion about what kinds of minds run society… been going along forever… ie: can arts and sciences get along… turbulence not well described because happening so fast… if you want picture.. have to go back to cyber punk written as sci fi… we would have much better grip if looked into that.. what we mean as a society banished from polite company…
what we see .. getting message across diff than perspective to technicians
diaologue about how tech fits into society is going to be a dialogue about class.. ie: lawyers or tech’s.. both are wrong.. has to be run by people… reawakening of sci fi and tech… we’ll be led by …. so challenge is to start reading cyber punk… if you share myths start to understand tech
2017 will be a major year for blockchain disruption via Ethereum — @leashless Vinay Gupta on Virgin Podcast https://t.co/aG0gFkErlx
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/cryptobelle/status/705027895253544964
2 trends in tech – 1\ second wave blockchain adoption.. bitcoin semi stable.. 2\ ethereum – more general/flexible.. do what bitcoin did for money for everything else: insurance, lending, identity, also more efficient and cheap to run
2016 – yr of the prototype…lots of games… a few p2p financial instruments.. this yr impact quite subtle.. i think next year. huge
virtual reality – wanted to be a world builder in vr – but nothing happened for 25 yrs… now – 5-6 big companies that have made it.. fb, sony, samsung, microsoft, .. all launching this year… 5 bill ish.. christmas 2016 – vr christmas… lots of games and office productivity
going into civilization disorientation – really serious disruption
23 min – on vr opening up human imagination… rediscovery of dreams.. that other people can enter into… make art become more compelling than it is now
24 min – problem communicating what it is they’ve done.. the brilliant autistic people creating the tech… implication is very odd – is social networking popular.. because those making it aren’t comfortable in real world… going through a shift.. where socially dominant isn’t psychopaths or sociopaths anymore but autistics.. see it now as disorder but in 20 yrs might be seen as kind of intelligence..
27 min – message to my young self -read more history… realize conditions you are born into ..aren’t natural state of world.. just a temporary condition… notion that the things you happen to have around you when you grow up are not a fixed thing.. but temporary..
28 min – read old sci fi… for what we could be today…
w/in steam convo..
define success. That’s a first step. My definition: in the year I die, no human dies of hunger. That’s my definition.
mar 2016 – stream bits on capitalism ness
Men don’t generally experience women as powerless or weak; look at male humour about “your life is over” at marriage, or divorce as ruinous.
Once you really get that men feel helpless and trapped by society too, and often see women as controlling and enforcing in emotional terms?
Then you can understand that in this system there are simply no winners: you have to change the fundamental deal, feminism cannot be enough.
Unless your definition of “patriarchy” includes men living in fear of their wives use of emotional violence, you have not seen capitalism.
The woman punishing her husband for losing a high paying job is as much his boss as his boss is: men perceive they work for women and State.
Capitalism inside of the family unit is not often discussed, but children demanding toys as tribute hits broke men as hard as a tax bill.
The prison of expectations around work and money are to men what domestic roles were for women. Capitalism is our enemy, not each-other.
Feminism cannot fix capitalism. Not even close. And most of what comes between men and women is capitalism, not gender: the cost of children
Not a topic I’m going to discuss much in future, but remember that I said this here and now. These things only visible for flashes going up.
.@AlesPickar lesbian domestic violence stats suggest a nuclear family is a en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_… which brings too many humans to violence
bits from mar 16 stream (random order):
@leashlessRedeeming the situation can only be done in two ways: take a little back out in the form of a house and freedom or build a salvation machine
.@smithsam I’d be the “poor man’s elon musk” – he’s building space ships and I’m building tin can stoves for the billions left behind.
I will say this: efficiently moving money from type-A alpha male gorilla pockets to efficient cooperator nerd tribalism is super effective.
@elonmusk (vinay rt)Interesting to think of physics as a set of compression algorithms for the universe. That’s basically what formulas are.@leashless@kevin_osterling @aantonop oh so very, very hard to count “the people” in an online environment. Identity management is very difficult..@charmermark @siemvaessen I guarantee you the answer is going to be “no”
The question is “are they going to frame the question correctly?”.@browningphilip1 I think the core of the digital capitalism thing is *finally* having enough computer power to accurately represent value.
@leashlessMost of my co-workers worry that we are not moving fast enough. I worry that we are not going in the best possible directions.
@leashless@jwildeboer @fabianacecin @agentGav Information asymmetry goes away in panopticon environments, which is where we are basically headed.
.@agentGav @jwildeboer @fabianacecin Well, let’s think about that: if we can accurately track environmental and social costs of production?
.@agentGav@jwildeboer@fabianacecin That’s tooling that would make enforcement of global social justice possible: that’s a new possibility.
.@agentGav @jwildeboer @fabianacecin Whether we have the political will to implement that I don’t know. Maybe over 50 years. Maybe far less.
@leashlessThis is one of the most insightful things anybody’s ever said to me on twitter. Well said, @fabianacecintwitter.com/fabianacecin/s…
data – document – encryptionpeople building this.. high on cypherpunk.. high on autism..wondering why we need govtfuse network and data into blockchain
first thing done – central bank – reinvent gold – imagine 2 and 3rd acts…if i described how your govt works.. it’s even worse…don’t assume the new is any weirder than the old. old is just new stuff you got used to –smart contract is 3rd big integrationnext is scaled blockchain – from 20 per sec to mill per sec…. single computer surfacetension of what world looks like to technologists and rest of us… ie: tech could overcome govt… what we’re really having is a discussion about is class..what kinds of minds run our society….getting message across.. is difficult part… since ww2 when sci fi banished from lit genre… not in polite society..if you want to get this.. and you should.. it’s the tech running world.. read cyberpunk.. get into heads of people who created it.. read their mythology.. what they were thinking when created it…
There’s also no mechanism inherent in the nation state for handling genuinely global issues.[..]
Is it right to say that a lot of your work lies in trying to get away from centralised power structures?
Some people want to fix inequality and centralisation. But when we try to fix inequality, 1) it keeps coming back, and 2) it often leads to mass murder (Stalin, Mao, etc.)
So stop and think about this for a moment: what if the objective isn’t to level out the game between winners and losers, but to make life as good as possible for the losers? If we accept that most people will be losers at some point in their lives, how do we design a good life for losers, for the mediocre, the untalented, the unlucky – for every single human being, no matter how “undeserving” they may appear to some means-testing meritocratic aid bureaucracy. This is “decentralisation” certainly, but not in the usual sense that people use the word.
Refugees, homeless people, disaster victims, migrants, all these people often face the same basic challenges: staying warm, staying cool, avoiding hunger, thirst, illness and injury. For those of us left scrambling in the dirt – that’s a billion people today in the slums, and another two billion barely making a living on tiny little mud hut farms all over the world. For those people to make a decent life, that has been my goal.
I don’t know how to fix inequality. But I do think we can – with safe, available, even cheap technology – stamp out nearly all of the suffering that poverty causes. As Gandhi said: “Poverty is the worst form of violence.” So my decentralisation is at the very bottom.
There’s a huge leap of imagination to take our existing physical resources and purpose them into this kind of pseudo-utopian project, but it’s only a leap of imagination. We have all the technology, right here, right now, this very day.
In my novel Mother of Hydrogen a lot of the action is set in a temporary city which became permanent, called Harappa after an ancient Indian hill fort. The economics of building essentially countries from scratch are a lot better than you would expect: it’s dirt cheap to provide a population with all the denim and bicycles they could possibly need, but once again, you have to be a soft paternalist about this to get the job done at those prices.
When we admit that the allegedly-temporary status of “refugee” is actually the permanent status of “displaced, never to return” maybe we could start to design a lifestyle that works cheaply enough for the international community to continue support, while at the same time producing a high standard of living to the point where refugees have some real utility.
My proposal, along those paths, is that we turn the refugee camps into universities. If we won’t let them get jobs and work, let them get PhDs on the internet and become huge academic centres of excellence. There is no problem in this world that access to 150 million more educated human beings would not improve, and maybe in the long run they could fan out across the globe as school teachers.
perhaps what we all need – city as uni ness… as the day..
imagine 7 billion plus people doing that… couldn’t that dance.. dance..? wouldn’t we have/be enough…?
The trigger event was seeing the Cosmic Trigger stage play in London. Robert Anton Wilson, without who’s work I’d probably have killed myself in my twenties (I mean that quite seriously) lost a daughter to poverty. They lived in an awful neighbourhood because Bob had quit his job working for Playboy to write the literature and analysis that helped me to save my own life. And a crazy homeless person killed his daughter. And, at that point, I snapped.
Do have a read of the Leashless Manifesto archive.org/download/Leash… it has a certain precision and clarity, even today. It opens some doors.
what is the rent for being alive, and to whom is it paid?
Ethererum and the Smart Grid – an interview with Sam Warburton of RWE about where the future leads youtube.com/watch?v=SFpna0… @ConsenSysLLC
Interview with Sam Warburton of RWE about blockchains, smart contracts, and smart grid
control grid at micro level.. greater efficiency.. ie: pv on roof
2 min – nodes scattered.. run by diff people…
3 min – existing model – enormous server farms…going to a system where you can ie: run a server in their closet... – vinay
server farms ness
5 min – like homesteading your own energy
tech to run that world – box to control it (in house/closet)… looks much like a node on blockchain.. – sam
6 min – 99.9% of time.. box just sits there.. but if problem… can turn it off…
7 min – node in house… so millions of millions of nodes.. platforms on which you could put any ethereum node
8 min – tokenization – representation of energy
wind up with single grand grid.. sitting on top of pipes.. and on top of that competitive market for energy..
ultimately.. at the household level.. not worth huge amounts of money… so benefits… ability to self generate/use… also helps others…
9 min – beyond notion of one panel per house.. full utility comes form interconnectedness.. to get full value.. have to utilize as much as possible.. making full use of capacity.. allowing people to make own choices… simply/easily – sam
11 min – bringing scale into this, ie: need 30-50 households to run a supermarket.. w/in 1/2 km of supermarket… people build energy for market they use… so fundamentally grounded in locality… so can decide pay
or decide we can disengage from pay – form spending time measuring transactions…
13 min- wallet ness
so like craft econ figuring out capacity into industrial econ
not just de centralized energy… banks.. other utilities.. telecom
14 min – once fully embedded – how does quality of life change… people more connected to energy – for most people fundamentally dull/boring..
17 min – subtle signals on edge… that change tiny behaviors..
like caleb listening to plants..
18 min – so they input values and extract from values to alter energy behaviors…
optimizes use… to benefit all
20 min – also helps to group people together… via how they spend/use energy.. build community around shared social values… de cent energy.. w blockchain.. w communities of shared views… geographically and virtually/globally
22 min – expose to people the impact of what they’re doing. and allow them choices.. assuming people will then be responsible..
yes.. set people free..
26 min – managing at micro level – both challenge and opp – sam
27 min – on substituting intelligence in the system for bulk
28 min – this ability for people to express themselves and to act also drives it – sam
totally drives.. in the long run.. no..?
the smartest human you’ve never heard of.
#osfest16 @leashless on “the failure to govern ourselves and putting our species at risk” What can we do 1/2
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/OpheliaNoor/status/732875313026306048
Ophelia Noor @OpheliaNoor
#OSFEST16 @leashless “We need to build global governance without global government” (i.E the failure of the UN)OuiShare Fest @OuiShareFest
The world is organised by & for nation-states with no indvidual representation; we feel we have no control of the world @leashless #OSFEST16Aassia Haroon Haq @aassiaharoonhaq
#blockchain thinker @leashless Vinay at #OSFEST16 says “one computer per world” could create governance w/out govt pic.twitter.com/EzYhriKSy3Julia Pichler @hrealities
.@leashless listening #OSFEST16 -> ” 1 vote…global” goal of Modules, all designed through, #strategic; please read transitionarchitecture.net/?p=623Nathan Schneider@nathanairplane
Global democracy would mean a huge transfer of wealth from the rich to those they & their ancestors have robbed, says Vinay Gupta #osfest16ulia Pichler @hrealities
#OSFEST16 could you pls check & share this (powerfully transformative) Open Design Concept transitionarchitecture.net/?p=623 #ChangeDesign #OpenDevJulia Pichler @hrealities
Live-stream @OuiShareFest – with# #OSFEST16 ;) :) – highly recommended ! glowbl.com/OuiShareFestCi… #TransitionArchitecture = #ChangeDesign
Surprisingly on point from @leashless “Scientific Approach To Enlightenment: Vinay Gupta Interview” futurethinkers.org/enlightenment-…
“I would argue that the enlightened state is the natural state of human beings. We more or less start enlightened. And then we create the un-enlightened state of being as a special purpose experience, much in the same way that you might go into a movie theatre.”
“I think it’s really important that people don’t say, ”ordinary consciousness is crap, we’re going to go out there and find enlightened consciousness”. Ordinary consciousness is better for nearly all people, nearly all the time.”
11 min – we’ve had enlightened beings on this planet for a really long time.. have to really say.. if people are going to pursuing consciousness.why are they going to do any better in helping out world than any before them.. we’ve had a long heritage of people pursing consciousness.. where exactly is it getting us
13 min – what have you chosen to do w it.. how come you’re not in a cave now.. kind of did for 2 yrs… settling in.. then i had this kind of dream/vision.. that earth/people would die.. coming to huge B paper ism for next reincarnation.. if all die at same time.. have to do paperwork.. so a mass call out… so go forth and try to preserve life on earth… after dream ended.. next few weeks.. new set of motivations arose inside… i found myself directly/personally bothered w state of world.. so .. all came out of a ridiculous vision..
17 min – on pretending your wealth is clean..
18 min – if you pool all the suffering – people being made to make things for us.. there’d be rather nothing left..
forms of spirituality where people become enormously self-satisfied.. in a world which is deeply troubled.. this approach is not ok.
23 min – on evolution.. on being replicating ness.. and we have biological data to back it up
? – sounds like leaning toward.. organism being algo.. ?
27 min – on cataloging/documenting people on what happens to them when they get enlightened… i’m pretty convinced.. sum total of enlightenment.. hard to get there.. and loaded w crap
28 min – what i’d love to see.. a scientific tradition of enlightenment..
how about.. self talk as data.. as the day.. hosting life bits..
29 min – i don’t see any evidence that the enlightenment experience makes anyone better at judging what’s fundamentally good for world.. so is it better… question – if more enlightened people.. better world.. evidence.. enlightened people and not better world..
perhaps.. leaning more toward science of people ness
34 min – one way to look at it.. that enlightenment is an extreme for of artistic temperament..
35 min – i don’t see anyone doing enlightenment w/o bringing medieval baggage..
37 min – have to sit down and do it.. have to ask hard questions about what it’s good for.. have to not care about anything else.. till get through it..
step 1\ gather data – only mech we have..do the work..2\ if get breakthrough – don’t take anything for granted when want to tell self what just happened – tendency .. is afterwords.. gravel to local mythology to explain.. repeat and repeat myths.. and see experience through that myth .. ie: marriage..
we reify convenient truths into absolute truths..
again – science of people in schools ness.. we don’t know what we are really capable of
40 min – there is something real there.. but you don’t have to accept all the stories around it… the stories are nonsense .. but that doesn’t mean there’s no such animal.. they’re nonsense because they’re pre-science..
42 min – on needing a mech for checking out truth… knowledge which comes from meditation is very convincing.. 9 times out of 10 – get at it.. there is deep knowledge inside us if you can get at it… problem is.. if fit inside myth not true.. then all truths inside person are twisted… that’s what disturbs me about religion.. i know more about how human being was made then they did.. so if i use old .. myth.. i’m not truthing… all experiences have to be slotted in.. to culture knowledge base around you now..
48 min – enlightenment – doesn’t allow you to see around corners.. be certain…. otherwise.. all religious truths would converge..
50 min – the fact that taking mushrooms want to get others to take them.. replicating process..
53 min – ie: on mckenna being so certain.. we’ve got to get away from.. if somebody said it.. it’s true..
54 min – not agreeing w each other.. if they agreed.. the lack of agreement about fundamentals is extremely important..
2 needs ness – deep/simple/open enough
55 min – going to take us.. binding on what we agree about.. and bagging the rest.. science is the best thing there is
56 min – bring same sharpness of intention.. and bring it into the domain of consciousness study.. explore mind..
58 min – if happens.. grab onto science.. not myths… if experience as an unknown..
59 min – if it’s so great.. why didn’t it beat darwin… at solving questions of what are human beings.. what does nature do..
similar to thinking – if so great.. why hasn’t it changed us
once you get darwin as fundamental base layer.. not going to stray very far when comes to questions about human nature.. this doesn’t mean there aren’t unanswered questions about consciousness..
whoa.. isn’t that keeping us
1:00 – i don’t want people in next generations.. having their enlightenment experiences and then becoming drones in medieval theocracies.. not even mine.. not good for you… only thing i can give you is … stick close to darwin..
Are we ready for global #democracy ? @leashless on how #blockchain can build it for us https://t.co/oqtx6S8xKu#OSFest16 #video
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/OuiShare/status/738370362560286721
70s: 1 computer per org (databases); 80s: 1 computer per person 2010 (networks): 1 computer per planet (blockchain)
obvious thing to do w 1 computer per planet: fix climate change & resource scarcity..
right now world run by un.. giving you no individual representation.. only through govt .. so.. no wonder we feel we don’t have any control over world.. because we don’t.. very clear nation state us unable to .. take effective action on a solution.. this is not a small crisis..
5 min – a failure to govern ourselves in a way that puts our very species at risk..
5 min – 1 computer per world would allow us to build global governance and not global govt
8 min – getting to 1 vote.. 1 truth.. so democratic decision making at global level.. question is – how to get 7 bill people to vote.. don’t need to.. 100 mill is a sufficient sample
take individual notions of opinion and produce a rough estimate on global set of issues…
9 min – given a set of agreed on facts.. what is global public opinion
whoa… isn’t that what we can now disengage from..? can’t we live in dissensus ness.. by moving the people rather than forcing us cluster around an idea..
@leashless Wikipedia draft declined again :( I *could* tidy it, but it began as a procrastination exercise:https://t.co/oSCGwXosjK Sorry :(
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/PocketaPocketa/status/743477627890110464
Here @leashless answers the first question for a possible interview with @singularityblog at 3:00.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/jhaand/status/750426077584035840
Digital Bauhaus Summit 2016: Vinay Gupta – LC on a Dollar a Day: Ecological Limits, Dangerous Technology and Human Survival.
6 ways people die
right now most of these are not being met…1/3 of poverty..
2 min – we don’t know how to take care of everybody simultaneously..
so important any solution we propose… and we have to solve this problem on the way to luxury communism..
has to not make matters vastly worse in process of tempting to fix things
3 min – right now.. there’s a very pragmatic approach – tech will save us… problem w techs.. most also create a whole new class/family of risks… risk is that it will create problem so much worse than have now..extremely dangerous techs..
4 min – so i want to propose is a diff way of thinking of how we solve this maslow zero problem… so we don’t get trapped on false bridge 1\ultra tech to save us or 2\ have to accept poverty and stay there..
so.. only have to address these 6 causes of death
1&2\ too hot/cold is a shelter problem – ie: hexayurt – 100 dollars/person.. twice that if want to use lifelong materials.. shelter part extremely easy to fix..
7 min – clothing.. no problem at all..
3\ hunger – ie: one acre fund – doubles agri production – add.. caleb ness et al.. world produces twice as much calories we need.. no fundamental procution problem of hunger..until get climate change.. not easy in urban areas .. but not as difficult as people tell you
13 min –
4\ thirst – ie: water filtering tech has improved in last 20 yrs… ie: safe water trust.. lots of ie’s .. very soluble in areas that haven’t already been affected by climate change
5\ illness – water borne (above), stoves.. if budget is 1 dollar/day.. solar lighting gets rid of indoor air pollution.. way cheaper than kerosene..
6\ injury – bike helmets.. no civil wars..
so in 10 min – gone through doable ways to solve 6 major causes of death
we have a bunch of tech solutions.. cheap enough.. that we can solve these…
14 min – 6 basic human needs.. are individual.. need to cover for each individual… to function as groups need to add
transport (bikes buses)..
resource control is where blockchain enters… ie: this resource for this event.. the org that controls this space…decision made by allocating money… which is basically the only way our society has of allocating scarce resources…
so – imagine hosting life bits.. as way to do resource control.. and people connections..
17 min – all structure washed out of our society in favor of property mech called money… performs very poorly on long tail.. wind up w/a non represented differential.. ie: extra 100 bill nothing to gates.. but not to other places.. the fact that it means diff to diff.. so can’t price welfare in financial terms..
money doesn’t accurately reflect human benefit..
18 min – i suggest a diff way of approaching this.. we build society for extremely poor/difficult situations .. which is roughly half of world situations.. .. we price things in terms of human survival benefit.. ie: take someone’s death .. log on blockchain.. work backwards from death to series of events which caused them to die
19 min – short run down of what blockchain is
if we start logging death.. working backwards from death.. we can start looking at what kills people.. then.. take an artifact like a stove.. can measure penetration of various tech’s.. intro stoves.. 5 yrs later infant mortality dropped.. ok.. stove/solar panel allow this level of benefit..
20 min – in controlled environments like in refugee camps.. measure food as goes in .. track people.. and tech.. match stats to tell you benes.. then price techs as deployed.. also price human benefit they produce.. this kind of thinking done already.. quality adjusted life years.. used as currency for managing social cost analysis
21 min – bene of doing on blockchain.. gives ability to do independent analysis of data.. can be done by anybody.. between money and benefit of money.. get.. triple bottom line accounting.. financial, human benefit, environ benefit… single pkg.. which could be used to correctly allocate resources…
that approach could take root in refugee camps.. poor villages.. if move to something like bitcoin.. interfaces with systems where we need to control carbon globally.. inside very rich side of world..
23 min – this looks like environ.. where we could do correct resource allocation for the long tail of humanity..
to bring everybody up to level where they have reasonably human welfare and abundant free time with which they could get educated or play video games or whatever they like..
this to me is a less than one planet’s worth of consumption luxury communism.. free world for the poor.. almost a luxury maoism
24 min – leave regular rich to do what doing now.. no way to control them .. and if no way of controlling.. the attempt to fight with them for resources.. so that we can straighten out the planet is probably futile.. if it doesn’t cost the billionaires anything to fix the long tail of humanities problems.. maybe we just let them run amok while we go and win the fights we can win rather than focusing all our efforts on politics of anything
25 min – no reason we can’t build a world that actually works.. we can actually do this.. we’ve got the tech
26 min – q&a – what makes your pitch diff .. a: money… internet 3 – crypto power run rather than just network power
29 min – most of activists are fighting on a map that is completely out of date.. that’s why activism isn’t being effective.. not that we’re stuck and waiting for miracle.. but we really need a new generation of activism to provide the political wing.. of the tech movement..
30 min – activism is hopelessly broken.. because people aren’t willing to sacrifice marks.. just need to catch up.. nobody has really redrawn the political econ/geography after invention of nuclear bomb.. once remodel world…. we’re operating in a world with only a dozen countries in which value is now generated by land ..possible to remodel world but need activists to come with us and catch up with the tech
37 min – we must free activist world from nation state illusion..
Hurrah! Two of my favorite people talking. What a pleasure :-)
@leashless – I love your vision and leadership! https://t.co/HK83gcHPc4
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1 hour audio – vinay on rethinking blockchain use cases
[i think my fav talk/convo of his to date.. love his focus on what matters..]
20 min – i need a job.. i make way into ether game.. because…i’ve spent 15 yrs working for free on nastiest problems i could find… i can’t get paid for doing the work i’m actually here to do.. because it’s so terrifying that nobody will basically put money behind getting a clearer picture of it..
i knew … currency wasn’t enough.. not anything in terms of social change… i come here.. because i need to put a little security behind myself…
21 min – i take risk of global financial collapse seriously enough.. that i climb the ladder…
this is not cynical.. it’s happy and cheerful compared to how the developing world works... i can tell you how africa is broken.. but you’ll never look at your own people in same way again..
23 min – regulators job is to protect the people.. who are at risk from.. scammy bullshit marketing
if you startle people in just the right ways.. they give you their money..
25 min – against that context.. where we understand fully how that system really works.. have to ask ourselves…. are we diff from the reg econ.. if we’ve got same kind of mass psychology.. is it really for us to claim we’re above it..
26 min – ethereum is an attempt to use the most powerful force in universe to govern affairs.. and that force is mathematics.. this is a big deal
as long as we’re governing what matters.. ie: not measuring transactions..
crypto approach to this is retarded..
28 min – we should partner w/un to fight climate change.. ie: take everyone emitting carbon.. and force them to publish results on a blockchain.. push tokens they are generating on their customers.. tag them for price.. attached to people personally… seriously show who is emitting carbon and what it’s used for.. give much clearer picture of global situation..
29 min – is there really a global drought.. v: yeah
30 min – ledger use: 1\ tracking negative externalities.. 2\ global governance.. opinion polling.. model of what people want..
oy.. what if we can get away from pollingness..
ability to make structural change if can figure out what global public opinion is..
? – perhaps rather.. focus on basic human needs – ie: a and a
31 mi – what i’m recommending is not that this is what we ought to be building… but the idea that the highest manifestation of block chain as an idea is to generate a currency and smart contracts as a hyper efficient form of late stage of capitalism.. clearly we are thinking about this in a very rigid/static 2 d way..
31 min – we have vastly bigger problems than the inability of people to parade trade between each other…we’ve got 20 million people that will die this year.. of poverty… et al.. and we are wrecking the hell out of the ecosystem…
33 min – problem.. right now biggest entity we have to solve is un.. and it’s a trade assoc for nation states.. if in a democracy.. have to pick leadership and send to un.. if not in democracy (which is enormous % of humans) no say.. so.. hard to get world to pull together.. problem 1… problem 2.. centuries of massive abuse because of colonialism…
34 min – so.. inside this context.. imagine if we had a way of getting ordinary human beings direct voice on big issues.. that would have enormous tendency..
ay.. – doesn’t it then mean we are voting on spinach or rock ness…
we could get direct political pressure… from masses living in worst states.. w/o having to go thru filter
40 min – if crypto anarchy w/o property rights.. all believe property is soul of anarchy.. which is of course nonsense.. no such thing as anarcho capitalism..
can re conceive crypto project as aligned with human survival rather than human greed..
seems too big – arthur – there’s no other game worth playing.. so play that game.. if we are not here to save the world.. why get out of bed in the morning..– vinay..
43 min – w/o some fundamental challenge toward lifestyle change..
44 min – system of world is a very bad thing.. highest purpose for blockchain is to make system 1\ visible 2\ repairable…. use blockchain for tracking transactions in order to track resource flow
45 min – killer app fro crypto ledgers is global democracy.. a way to register opinions.. currencies are tiny little things.. hardly worth discussing.. not even wrong .. insignificant even if correct.. really hard problems.. are collective action problems..
47 min – capitalism: price signaling communism: means of production.. bring together to bare on final price of a good – arthur yes – vinay
oy – no –
this is not best use of these techs… just my model.. someone else could come along.. vastly bigger dreams than this is about currency/contracts..
49 min – what we need to emphasize.. this is day one of a completely new phase.. if we take first basic screw up as reason to close it all down… has to be bigger vision.. can’t reflect around anarcho capitalist theory
50 min – huge alternatives.. that only barely intersect with my version…
51 min – we have to grow out of the narrative.. we have to start weaving in potential of blockchain.. ie: syncing wikipedia to blockchains.. all uses are relatively easy technically.. we’re just not focusing on that.. because everyone is focusing on liberatarian politics and transaction processing
we need bigger dreams..
we need a much louder much more complicated ecosystem… we have to also look at role foundation has of narrow/technical.. to do broad based outreach…
56 min – i talked about blockchains and global governance.. because i wanted those people to come into our space.. and ask about more… we’re going to come up with problem of everyone thinking it’s a financial tech.. it’s not a financial tech.. it’s a rebirth of the internet
57 min – i really think we need provably fair internet data... services (ie: dating) aren’t neutral… adverse incentive..
self-talk as data.. facilitated by non judgmental tech
58 min – ok cupid – 10% of births
1:00 – matching you with people for you rather than profit for company...
find your people.. everyday.. as the day..
if we fixed that problem.. ordinary people would see bc’s mean fairness…
1:02 – once you get good enough tools.. you get fundamental changes in people’s behavior..
imagine if design to give space/time for interpretive labor – rev in rev..rev of everyday life
1:03 – perpetual disorientation very vulnerable to exploitation by people who have more insight into situation than they do
1:03 – in a position to abuse insight.. blockchains may give us a way to prevent abuses from happening – arthur
1:04 – actionable – we need to think much bigger in much more diverse ways… we need to start making blockchain clearly visible to people to help big problems of world in big ways.. ie: how to track timber.. refugees.. providence of meats..
what if .. how to wake people up.. so we can have 7 billion making soul ful decisions everyday.. consenting with guts rather than with all the other people in a mob…
convo with Jon Husband on wirearchy and blockchain june 2016
#orgdna .. #wirearchy 10 years from now, after blockchain stretches its legs ? youtube.com/watch?v=9TzB9q…
must circumvent politics (https://t.co/jPPfVmlvwH) wherever possible, as per @leashless. if want different future, build alt models. [16/?]
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Transcending Politics – 17 min video interview 2014 –
simpler systems can provide all our basic needs…
possible to go w/o heavily entrenched..external governance..
politics are about allocating scarcity.. if take scarcity out .. doesn’t matter who’s in charge…
if get rid of scarcity.. politics less important..
9 min – everyone working on l-r system of politics.. massively out of step
once look at post industrial econ’s work – ie: keven carson’s, yoha benkler.. entire political movement landscape is littered with things one/two generation behind…. control of assets always about assets.. when econ changes shape.. if politics don’t catch up.. keep turning… applying force.. just strip head of problem.. can’t get real leverage on problems.. generations behind econ so politics don’t grip
the biggest block we have is thinking poverty is static..
14 min – first priority must be – show must go on
most problems solve if go to solar rather than coal
a thesis: hexayurt guy capital partners?
2 min – how we allocate risk and capital to generate forward motion..
started w rich old geeks funding young geeks to go out and invent the future.. tech expert to tech expert… ie: semiconductor..
now.. generally vs understands money but not tech..
environment has sped up w/o funding… resulting in large misallocation of funds..
6 min – right now most perceptions are that startups are companies… i don’t think that’s what they are.. i think startups are actually factories for producing financial instruments..
7 min – in drug world.. leads.. then 10x money to turn into.. in each stage.. so completely diff kinds of entities in each phase..
9 min – paul graham.. so can’t predict..so have to take a ton of risks… many invest in too low level of risk.. not investing enough in crazy.. only thing worth doing is 1000 to 1 returns..
13 min – to build something based on idea .. that we’re going after 1000 to 1 shots…
15 min – the idea of a world that is governed by math rather than force.. is appealing.. and i think is going to turn out to be a good bet… but getting capital into the system is quite difficult..
16 min – to get into that space (1000 to 1) .. you need to be investing in things that don’t only seem mysterious to you.. but that actually seem physically impossible..ethically unreasonable.. or require patterns of human behavior you don’t believe in
so have to get into putting money into ideas you don’t believe in.. really looking for is things that 25 yr olds think.. not sure i can use that.. but really interesting…
17 min – notion of looking for edge..
19 min – critical access of action.. risk to expertise/legalities.. ie: phases of a rocket.. little risks become big risks.. right now those gateways are extremely complicated
20 min – we have clear model of phases going from irrational dreams about possible futures thru to the hard core regulatory grind of bolting things directly to existing superstructure..
why existing superstructure..?
21 min – if you don’t have that kind of crazy.. not going to dedicate life to it..
rocket.. assumed to be disposable.. thrown away at the end..
22 min – alienation/trap – because now rich and friends all poor.. or.. in high burn lifestyle.. w no chance of getting off wheel…
thinking of money as scarce.. there’s an astonishing amount of wealth on planet.. so.. not that there isn’t lot of money
23 min – on other hand precise set of skills necessary to master diverse power of tech and pull into coherent vision of future.. which then you can attempt.. then slide in front of culture of an option to divert from path that it would be on if you didn’t exist.. a pretty rare set of skills..
pulling entrepreneurs out of companies before completely destroyed.. better than treating entrepreneur as one shot rocket…
24 min – same error as in end of care life expense… ie: often unconscious for entire period.. take off respirator off early enough save fundamental assets.. ie: people’s willing ness to work…
25 min – rather than burn crash people.. soft land them.. what if started looking .. at pulling this stuff out a little bit earlier than burn out… perhaps more would go on (refreshed) to a 2nd/3rd try
26 min – so how to align interests..?
27 min – how to make it feasible for people to pull the plug.. have to make it ok for people to think of themselves as important enough.. that crashing the entire show is not the future.. ie: people with skills at center rather than people with money…
28 min – in this kind of format.. critical.. horizontalize risk.. risk pool.. ability to cross invest.. better for network as whole if everybody swings as hard as they can and takes as big risk as they can..
29 min – founders oppression – because instruments around the system are not appropriately valuing human capital… fixable problem..
30 min – what if did a vc ..is a matching engine.. bunch of kids with enormously erratic visions.. get out in advance of human cultural change..
32 min – investing in things that could become a norm.. a verb.. building new verbs into human language.. way of thinking about things that plug into people’s lives.. mass psych of choice.. not deterministic..
33 min – notion.. of where in landscape any kind of edge.. interface between techs that are getting very little internal investment..
34 min – even if duct taping diff’s together.. better leverage.. if you keep it current.. highly compound.. could prototype today.. and then come back in 5 yrs.. every single one of components would have improved.. the path between .. rickety present and future perfect.. is paved with people’s money.. possibility operating too near future..leverage.. from using many techs that are continually improving..
37 min –
1\ conservation of entrepreneur – scarce resource.. right now .. plane/person expendable.. mission isn’t.. but if many many many test planes.. easy to see.. landing plane is best thing.. second best eject team while still in air
2\ compound value.. where in ecosystem enough space.. risk perspecting in an area..
39 min – my journey.. has involved a lot of screwing up.. starting in 93… 90s no money.. due diligence.. never really found an angle on the thing i believed in.. i found inside of govt/energy/etc policy.. but never something in business.. slowing this vc thing has become that for me.. to fund young dreamers and drag us along with them.. how to allocate capital to things that will really make a diff.. we have to innovate on both ends.. low end.. until mass collab for millions to innovations.. hopes is high end inside developed world for those who already have assets.. then scale down to low end..
42 min – want to see best of people doing best of work with best support possible.. ie: robin chase’s peers inc.. assets into ubiquitous platforms.. but i really want to see is things that are shocking and amazing.. if we can accelerate progress at bleeding edge.. might get acceleration it takes to address things like climate… right now.. trying to speed up.. with expectation that that speed is part of tool kit to innovate in other areas…
44 min – looking for very high risk.. super clear.. high potential.. build these things out.. if doesn’t work out.. still part of movement..
45 min – if interested.. hexayurt.com/capital… ideas.. how to approach..
46 min – in may case.. didn’t understand what i was doing.. ie: a successful company.. because of speed up..only thing we can hope is to build machinery that gets people through their lives.. all we’re doing is enabling people to get things done.. rather than operating inside of older paradigm
infrastructure for 7 billion world
10 min – focus on/assumption of.. money
11 min – flag dangerous tech.. et al.. on a blockchain.. track use of earth’s natural resources.. ie: transferable energy… global econ w/in environ system..
12 min – there is no way we’re going to build systems that work like that on top of paper currency.. this is what we need blockchains for..
do we need to measure… if people are free.. and don’t need to be ‘kept in line’..
and.. if we need to ‘keep people in line’.. won’t we end up where we are in another few years..
15 min – bitcoin/ethereum.. as fast as mechanical calculator..
what if fast isn’t what we need.. rather.. getting rid of irrelevants.. ie: measuring .. in order to keep in line.. keep fair.. et al..
16 min – on use of – currency – as verbiage.. becoming irrelevant..
18 min – tech for blockchain all there since 80s.. just not practical ways to do it yet.. didn’t have algos.. didn’t have mindset..
19 min – if we’d don’t his in 91.. we’re always going to take tech emerging at same time.. and combine.. all people at tech frontier wants to join to other in tech frontier.. cultures of tech… nobody wants to connect ie: blockchain w old tech
20 min – semantic level.. one ie: social skills in ed.. easy to measure math.. hard to measure social skills.. so no funding to make it better.. so illegible.. can’t represent objectively.. … seeing like a state
25 min – 1/ is store open (solvable) – semantic 2/ how to enumerate intangibles (probably never going to happen) – legibility
we have to accept we can’t run our society on spreadsheets..
so why enumerate..
30 min – what we are after is an accountable measure that assures bad actors are flagged..
why not get to root of bad acting.. gershenfeld sel
31 min – not knowing who we can trust.. doesn’t go forward unless develop an immune system.. being afraid to call people out.. consensus ness..
entirely a sociological problem..
we came in in hopes that we could create this trustless systems..
33 min – mythology we had was that because the software was perfect we could not care about the attributes of humans involved... that’s dead..
34 min – we knew real world was encroaching into our utopias..
who’s perfect. .. who’s not ever going to screw things up..
so.. let’s 1\embrace that and 2\ create mech that would diminish screwing up ness as much as possible.. ie: 7 billion people iterating on daily detox
35 min – best minds.. have been.. playing catch up.. right now we don’t look like competent professionals.. we look like a bunch of people incapable of managing crisis that they are stuck in the middle of.. because.. we are..
36 min – how did we get into mess.. lesson 1\ software always has bugs.. so need to design messy human policy for bugs.. or just understand/accept bugs.. now have massive political split about how to solve problem…
talking how to move money in blockchain and how to find bad actors..
what if both (money and bad actors) of those are irrelevant.. man made..
system looks way it does because of bad actors..
39 min – we’ve rediscovered why world is way it is the hard way..
what to do from here.. recovering losses from dao – lawsuits.. whole bunch of legal liabilities that have arisen from this.. lucky if don’t have to go through litigation
41 min – if we had built momentum over 4-5 .. we could have built in competence to get through this..
42 min – ethereum.. databases, networks, many computers, one computer.. thing isn’t finished yet.. what thing is will be decided by wider culture.. can’t tell society how thing works..
43 min – now in position where can’t avoid governance problem.. 3 ways…. 3\ courts/governance inside …my money on internal.. ie: contracts.. to binding arbitration..failure to proper contract.. as key failure.. all done by humans..
huge to reading Dave Elder-Vass – causal powers of social structures.. and esp to this idea of compliance.. and esp to voluntary compliance..
“A smart contract is just a warm fifth-order feeling, deep inside of you.” – @leashless cc @junseth @derosetech
90 min aug 2016 – talks Ethereum, blockchain, and the Future! on Bitcoin Uncensored
2 min – i knew currecny wasn’t enough
5 min – currency doesn’t give you the necessary high order structure you need to achieve political change.. so i looked at bitcoin and just ignored it
6 min – i came out of retirement on crypto to work on smart contract.. defn: a chunk of code that runs outside of control of the centuries of the contract..
all need is admin control over something that matters…
7 min – smart contracts are amazing.. the thing we thought was always going to achieve.. nick sabo’s work on smart contract.. bitcoin not really a currency.. smart contracts not contracts.. not smart..
8 min – hard to understand what it is.. (do you understand them).. well no…. so many defn’s flying around..
9 min – build .. then come up with a name.. who cares what defn of smart contract is.. let’s talk about actual running code.. ie: ethereum..
10 min – guys.. you’re acting as if defn’s matter.. what matters is running code..
language always lags the practice.. the failure to be able to form accurate language around new tech is an indication that you’re working on the cutting edge
11 min – when real change is happening.. extremely difficult to define things…
guys pushing for defn.. and vinay says.. talk about running code
12 min – what does it matter if something is /is not a smart contract..
if you want to do this properly.. what is it you want to understand about smart contracts..
13 min – e rites – since 90s
14 min – in real tech.. practice leads theory..
blockchain is not necessary for smart contracts to be interesting..
15 min – useful sc – democratic governance of shared assets..
guys: where’s your evidence for that.. that’s an extraordinary claim with no
? what questions are these
guys: there’s no science in this space
17 min – you’re expecting to be able to operate inside space with genuine tech change by defining /measuring.. this doesn’t work..
18 min – you’re asking for a defn of something that does not yet exist..
19 min – if you want to think about future.. have to have better conceptual brains..
not going to be defined by your linguistic defn..
20 min – evolving process… things which are genuinely important.. fundamental social transformations are never understood when they are happening..
smart contract .. defined by established practice.. not by a textbook defn..
operational vs denotational semantics.. looking for normative before it becomes normative…
22 min – ethereum comes along implements a smart contract
ignoring bitcoin.. just currency.. not political impact..
hey Vinay.. energy here: graeber model law.. let me bend your ear.. and let’s just do it.. rather than argue/present about it..
27 min – guys: there’s nothing here that is actionable… vinay: it’s what i do
first time i’ve ever seen you carry on in a crazy convo.. and get so mad
29 min – widespread.. that we’re running out of time.. so what to do about it..
12 nation states
39 min – why do we need political change.. those in charge.. states/corps.. doing very poor jobs at managing existential risks to humanity..
43 min – vc space: humanity has had existential risks by poor govts since nuclear bombs
47 min – markets do not reflect risks.. entirely created by the state..
48 min – guys: are markets efficient vinay: depending upon externality management
and efficient to what..?
markets exist in regulated spaces.. so if w/o will invent regs
50 min – if possible to manage scheduling problem
51 min – fundamental: full bore cannibalism mode.. treating human beings as expendable.. (guys: by what metric)..
53 min – guys: wealth gap is mattering less than ever … vinay: not interested in gaps
54 min – # one job in america.. driver..
good grief .. who are these guys
55 min – the market has nothing to do with the wealth of individual americans
55 min – guys: when i look out my window.. i see so much order/wealth.. vinay is in detroit.. so he assumes all america is like that..
perhaps have the guys read divide
57 min – spending enormous amount of world’s wealth.. on weapons.. system we have for electing leaders haven’t helped with any of these risks..
58 min – if you think this is a fringe perspective.. you really need to go and do some reading..
59 min – existential risk main thing ever since first nuc.. we got ability to destroy ourselves and have been negotiating around that ever since.. vc: how do you build large scale efficient problem solving apparatus that is capable of dealing with real problems.. state has failed at that..
main threats are bad tech regulation.. rather than ie: russians
1:00 – elon musk: given markets are effective.. existential risks management systems inside market econ.. so.. 100 mill in space ex.. 100 mill tesla.. 100 mill sources..? over 10 yrs enough tractions.. for global co2 missions.. and solve race problems.. (if realize have whole space less interest in gutting neighbors)..
musk: possible to get serious leverage on actual social problems..
1:02 – previous guy.. norman borlaug.. that academia
1:05 – back to vc: we need to build machinery for operating at a global scale
musk has proven that that is possible… (musk is part of vc)
what i have been doing.. working inside industrial complex.. working with strategic planners
1:06 – attempting to ensure long term survival of species.. educate people who have power to make these decisions to do right things..
or.. design so that 7 bill make decisions.. once all of us awake..
1:09 – clear we weren’t going to get what need via govt
1:10 – musk proves.. effective mech inside markets rather than inside state.. to existential risks..
1:11 – i accept that your mind is blown by things you don’t understand..
1:14 – gotten to point.. not going to be able to influence the state.. start looking at market.. worth a shot.. right at time ethereum pops up.. ethereum runs into serious governance problems.. i’m getting itchy feet.. want to build a bunch of stuff in europe.. but vc’s no interest
1:16 – as soon as regulatory around equity crowdfunding is sorted out.. much easier
1:17 – strategy – funding co’s exist inside space.. on fund stuff in center of: blockchaing, ar/vr, robotics, ai
1:18 – we think we’ll get compound growth in that space
not discussing people or money right now
i can’t believe i listened to whole thing.. can’t believe V spent time/energy on that.. good insight.. but buried in 90 min crazy (not good crazy)… i wish i could have had 90 min with vinay instead.
1:26 – in future.. need turing complete smart contracts..
1:27 – mining in china
1:28 – mining: an effective solution to the pack theorem.. allows to build something essential able to compensate for speed of light.. need to mine because.. you can’t find provably fair way of ordering transactions.. because of speed of light..
video notes from trip to dubai
dubai as trade hub from 2.5 bill people.. so natural monopoly
5 min – mit workshop on refugee issues
6 min – rep of both dubai and singapore..
7 min – culture changing much more slowly than tech
more slack.. because we can’t see what will unfold.. if these are our future states
.@emusdrinking If Singapore and Dubai could figure out how to tweak legal codes to tolerate software talent? They’d be unstoppable.
novel mother of hydrogen (my notes) via
.@_jordan_bates now read Mother of Hydrogen hexayurt.com/novel for exciting answers to these exciting questions :-)
thread – nov 2016
I am not enjoying seeing the shape and pattern of history. But I’ve gotten to diminishing returns on conscious adaptation. Moving forwards!
Feeling comprehensively re-tooled for this New Future we are facing together. Tough times, big change, iconoclasm. Renegotiate priorities!
I started a journey out of academia and activism towards capitalism because of two things: being broke, and Elon Musk. That is the truth.
In simply had to admit I was wrong. Not 15 years wasted, but much less done than if I’d simply accepted that markets and sacrifice work.
The sacrifice is the hard part: in capitalism the weakest get hurt, but you get Gates Foundation sometimes, and it changes history.
perhaps let’s try more ie: @TheEllenShow
& design as temp placebo..
so it irrelevants itself
a nother way cc @cblack__
Accepting that this approach has better net results that nearly all forms of activism, consciousness raising and small charity was shocking.
I just don’t see a more effective way to work towards the common good than making a lot of money and spending it helping people. That simple
make money. Sacrifice your ideals. Get into the heart of the great mass, and keep your head down.
I just don’t see a more effective way to work towards the common good than making a lot of money and spending it helping people. That simple
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:55 AM – 6 Dec 2016 :
I can tell you now exactly why venture capital is the logical end point of my journey through academia and activism in the world now live in (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/806104845275066368?s=17)
I’m not going to spend the day explaining. But I can’t push effectively without that ironclad mental integrity. I need to know my reasons.
self-talk as data/energy
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:58 AM – 6 Dec 2016 :
I don’t know whether that need for integration is a weakness or strength in this rapid-fire world. I have hope for #deepwork as a language! (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/806105461732868097?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 12:25 PM – 25 Jan 2017 :
The Internet of Agreements is new Hexayurt Capital concept work on blockchain fusion @I_of_A https://t.co/112UpamhEo #IofA whitepaper soon (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/824337375501422600?s=17)
map for law – machine reps of the law.. if we can’t figure out what is legal we can’t proceed to alternate
what if we just want/need to start over from scratch..? ie: too much b to sift through.. let’s start with just 2 needs.. deep enough.. (back human nature via hari rat park law).. as constitution (if we must)
in the real world logistics is everything
blockchain is for.. moving physical stuff..
? maybe it’s for connecting us.. facilitating our whimsy..
info in form of payment.. order.. insurance.. credentials..
A new venture capital project, focused on complex technologies and taking better care of founders
Caspar Addyman (@czzpr) tweeted at 4:49 AM – 7 Mar 2017 :
tl;dr “My prediction: rough period, brief golden age, then further technological mayhem that threatens our survival as a species” https://t.co/mosWd0SNTG (http://twitter.com/czzpr/status/839080672241332225?s=17)
What do you think we’re currently getting wrong in our relationship with time?
..people aren’t thinking about lives in way that corresponds to bio reality..we created something called “Childhood” and people called “Teenagers”..we have people in ed till they’re 25… we basically shifted point of maturity back 15 years and then wonder why teenagers are all insane.
on rest of interview.. please don’t get lost vinay
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 3:42 PM on Mon, May 22, 2017:
If you’ve started following me because of #Ethereum stuff, you may like this site about my earlier humanitarian work https://t.co/vFb6POkhEq
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:54 PM on Sun, Jul 02, 2017:
The objective is to make enough money running a piece of global infrastructure that the overflow can start a project to protect 1/4bn people
rather.. enough money for enough people to not think about money.. to model a nother way (sans money) for 7 bn people to leap to..
let’s try that
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:55 PM on Sun, Jul 02, 2017:
There are times when I look at this kind of ambition, and I doubt my sanity. But if not me, then who? Everybody else has tried; I bat last.
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:53 PM on Sun, Jul 02, 2017:
Whitepaper probably goes up on Friday.
So many moving parts. Tired. Difficult. The path between this and building refugee cities seems long
doesn’t have to be long
Food, energy and water etc. are probably humanity’s real problems, and capitalism has proven efficient. Can capitalism be cleaned up? Maybe. https://t.co/lleaU37rFg
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/898872109954285568
perhaps deeper than f e & w.. maté basic needs: a & a
perhaps trust that energy to take care of f e & w et al
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:49 AM – 24 Sep 2017 :
We pretty much have to abandon the priorities and obsessions of the past. People were confused. They did bad, stupid things. Do better now. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/911905504259133440?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:43 AM – 24 Sep 2017 :
We seem to become unmoored in a sea of competing opinions and priorities. We need grand orientation to overcome our short sightedness. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/911903945135656961?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:55 AM – 24 Sep 2017 :
Relative to the achievable goal of spreading life to the stars, very little that our ancestors thought worthwhile actually matters at all. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/911906912010203137?s=17)
? rather.. spreading life to stars matters little.. less than.. eudaimoniative surplus
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:00 AM – 24 Sep 2017 :
We just have to use capitalism to pull people together around starship factories. How hard can that be? I mean… What would you rather do? (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/911908268171284481?s=17)
the things i can’t not do…ie: follow curiosity…whimsy
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:05 AM – 24 Sep 2017 :
Elon Musk’s vision is better than any political leader. Stop listening to politics. Help Elon save life itself from our past mistakes. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/911909478546788357?s=17)
talk from Vinay
LET’S SAVE THE WORLD AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:58 AM on Mon, Sep 25, 2017:
https://t.co/vfdpzj2gtl here are my slides discussing what it would take to ICO Elon Musk’s Mars mission.
Talk was fine but too short!
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:01 AM on Sun, Oct 01, 2017:
But what is money for if not financing trade? So they’re really taking about tokenizing most of the assets in the real economy. Big plans. https://t.co/9nV8jMFZ0P
and .. we want to finance trade..?
Vinay Gupta returns to Meaning with his biggest vision yet for global systems change
“At this point, what I’m working towards is trying to redesign how we handle refugees — ..going to have to do a lot of privately financed,..: go into the markets, make some money in technology, hopefully come back and follow the Elon Musk strategy of ‘pay for the change you want to see in the world’. I tried ‘being the change’ and it wasn’t working all that well, but ‘paying for the change’ — that seems like it might work.
“So, step one is to make about £800 million. Step two is to spend this money setting up charter cities that are designed to accept refugees, and finance the process by having the refugees export goods and services on preferential tax rates; which would basically be a subsidy provided by the first world countries as a way of getting the refugee problem solved.
seems we have the means to do this.. w/o perpetuating money as our os
I’m in the position that I’m in because I started running early enough that I got a good position as I ran into the system. ..I look in society for the places where stress has accumulated and I use that map to position myself forward, because I’m carrying this hexayurt thing. It’s going to require the investment of enormous sums of money to build hexayurt cities and then hexayurt countries for the climate refugees. If I get squashed now, none of that is going to get done.”
“I’m running around with a view of the future which is far more realistic than almost anyone else in the blockchain space has. Therefore I’m continually three or four steps ahead because I don’t believe that decentralisation is utopian. I don’t think it’s going to produce a better world at all. Centralisation can be the FDA ensuring you don’t have dioxins in your food. Decentralisation can be people marrying their thirteen-year-old cousins in rural Utah. This all cuts both ways. There is getting it right and there is any particular given political dogma. And all of the political sides are wrong — all of them are wrong.
“I think accountability could produce a better world, and you could get accountability from blockchain; but decentralisation in the mode that people are currently practising it is simply hypercapitalism with another set of fangs..
fundamentally anathema to the vast majority of people in the blockchain space. They think you’re going to get full decentralisation, they don’t want to think about the black state and its weapon stockpiles, they absolutely don’t want to think about environmental constraints. It’s just a ‘yeah it’s all going to work out’ kind of future. But it’s not all going to work out. It might work out for well-armed white people in rich countries, but it’s certainly not going to work out for everybody else.”
Forty-five is the age that you begin to enter structural power, and for the most part the hippy leadership never made it that far. It’s a recurring, inter-generational cycle.
For Vinay, this is a time for building, not fighting.
If activists have allowed themselves to be drained of their effectiveness, could this be because they have too often prioritised sensibility above strategy?
No one really understands the issues, you’ve got to wait until people are actively beginning to push for basic income before you start dropping everything to go and deliver basic income. It’s a waiting game.”
“The one thing that I think might be worth fighting for (in mean time) is laboratory grown meat…wind up with the ability to get the population off cow, it will make an enormous difference to our global warming emissions. Enormous. Bigger than getting rid of cars. It takes all of the land use pressure of nature.
He will regularly remind you that it’s impossible to confront the future without also tearing up your sensibilities; and it is clear that this is a deeply held existential position. As an advanced practitioner of Kriya Yoga, Vinay likens the task to the ancient principles of Tantric philosophy: ”the continual pursuit of truth over social conformity.”
As with any topic on which Vinay holds forth — you pigeonhole him at your peril.
common os economically – where rules on global basis aren’t diff.. money to do all this comes from the liquidity.. a mazing
1:39 – finally being able to perceive blockchain projects that live up to potential tech actually has.. and this is that..
is it potential if still measuring..?
Rahul Singireddy (@rahulsingireddy) tweeted at 6:20 PM on Wed, Oct 18, 2017:
My first piece in Forbes covering @leashless ! Thanks to @richardmuirhead and @laurashin for the opportunity.
It was from the Internet that Gupta first heard about a festival called Burning Man. “In those days, more or less everyone knew more or less everything that was happening on the Internet all at the same time,” Gupta said. “There was no sense that the Internet was too big to understand. There just wasn’t that much stuff there.” In 1996, Gupta went to his first Burn. There were 8000 people in attendance, with no street signs and a theme of corporate takeover. It was very wild and very weird to the kid from rural Scotland, but he liked it. Gupta kept coming back for ten years. “It was Burning Man. It was just the staggering, the amazing, the Burning Man. The Burn
Of particular importance to cryptocurrency was the Cypherpunkmailing list, which Gupta was a part of. Founded in 1992, the list hosted futuristic technology discussion about a wide range of subjects, and had nearly 2000 members in 1997 with an average of 30 messages sent every day.
Gupta saw Bitcoin in its early years but completely ignored it. “I was not interested in speculating or making money through speculating,” Gupta said. ..I knew from the E-Gold community that payments weren’t enough. E-gold had payments and it didn’t create any kind of new social structure.”
He picked up a heavy meditation practice after buying a book on the Internet written by an Australian named Paul Wilson called The Calm Technique. And soon he found himself involved in an unlikely field: disaster relief. Gupta’s biggest accomplishment to date is the design of the Hexayurt, a disaster relief tent that can be folded and transported. “A bunch of hippies asked me if I could figure out how to build a geodesic dome without waste. After I invented it I felt obligated to do something.”
in 2001, Gupta was at the Rocky Mountain Institute in Colorado, an environmental think tank. ..Can someone design a shelter which can be packed flat, transported, and put back up again? So refugees can be given a reusable house. A tent that can be folded. And I sat down, with the back of the envelope, and 15 minutes later I had the Hexayurt.”
The first model was built in 2003 at Burning Man, 6 feet high, 7 feet long, and 8 feet wide. Gupta tried for years to get the Hexayurt to be widely adopted for disaster relief, but was unable to get past the bureaucracy of NGO’s.
Gupta then moved further into the resilience field, improbably winding up at the Pentagon advising them on large scale disaster management, as well as on how to use cryptography to protect civil rights. He continued this work at the UCL Institute for Security and Resilience Studies in the UK, working for the former UK Secretary of Defense, John Reid. Then, he jumped back into crypto fully, coordinating Ethereum’s release in 2015.Gupta is the earliest of adopters, motivated by intellectual curiosity rather than monetary gain.
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:39 PM on Thu, Dec 07, 2017:
https://t.co/wxYmiiiDz3 I want to live in this world. I do live in this world. The camera, which is the eye which can see this way, is in a box. Perhaps time to get it out again. Bit of time to think over the holidays. Bit of time to remember how to see. I’m losing perspective.
dec 2017 on blockchain:
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 7:12 PM on Sat, Dec 16, 2017:
Heading for 200 retweets of this. Very very surprised that people are so receptive to the message. https://t.co/UCrKVv7ZID has the whole tweetstorm as a Medium post, with some links that expand on the details. Let me know what you think! https://t.co/C06PfxxKZD
the great grandaddy of horrible problems blockchain can solve is terrorist and criminal financing.
how about a deeper problem.. making terrorism and financing irrelevant (which i learned from vinay)
So what do we do?
..a society without waste, including of human potential.
let’s just start there.. that energy would do it..
A very low waste society is a fascinating place: I imagine that everything has a price and an owner.
imagine ‘price and owner’ as irrelevant
a zero waste society must admit market failures need to be fixed by non-market mechanisms. But everything improves as you reduce waste: waste is entropy, and is not life the constant process of order winning against entropy, of pattern’s victory over mere chaos?
entropy ness..? mere chaos..?
There are probably four or five other big plays out there: banking the unbanked, global identity w. crypto to protect your biometrics, microtransactions, currencies backed by natural resources, and C2C versions of fintech normally used for businesses (i.e. hedging a flight or insuring your car from breaking down on a family road trip.)
only big plays based on man made money..? why..?
These big play projects are at the same general level of ambition as “let’s map the entire world using satellites and drones” or “let’s connect people to everybody they’ve ever met” or “let’s digitize all human knowledge.” The dotcom era got several more of these things done (hello, mobile phones!) and I don’t see any reason the blockhchain era should not have at least as much impact.
won’t get there if stuck in fin dom.. let go
You put all this stuff together, in an age of increasing and accelerating global change, and you break down some dumb structure around health, education, social care (i.e. medical records portability, transparent service pricing in hospitals) and the blockchain is soon indispensable to everyday life. If we play our cards right, we might even get there in a semi-regulated or only lightly regulated state.
only if we use it to facil everyday life.. if we use it to measure transactions.. facil made up money.. blockchain becomes a facilitator of that waste .. that you’re trying to get rid of
I’m doing my part here. Mattereum.com (@Mattereum) is my bid to get the necessary legal frameworks in place to make direct control of physical property using the blockchain recognized in 150+ countries. I want to break the door open to the material world so you can change the status of a *smart contract, and have a real-world court recognize that legal ownership of a fiat asset has changed hands. Fiddly, but it’s **necessary infrastructure for all of our next steps together.
*smart contracts.. **are you sure..? .. let go
Maintaining our political viability as we grow is going to need massive investments in public facing apps that solve real problems. We will need to show people things that really *make people feel they are living in a better future to maintain these valuations. It’s going to require proof that we are the future, not just carpetbagging promisers.
how about just.. *help people live better..
We need a bigger, better vision of the Bitcoin Future (and, yes, the Ethereum and general crypto future) if we are going to hold together the ship against pressure.
*we need a deeper/simpler/more-open vision..
I really believe that the Ethereum community has a ton of the pieces of that puzzle: smart contracts give us the reach to really interact with the real world. But we aren’t going to get to houses and cars on the blockchain without some real effort to find social utility in addition to the straight financial play.
I’m trying to frame the zone of aspirations, the things we should be fighting for as we go forwards into 2018 — the year that the blockchain is recognized as a global power, and has to learn to act like one.
only if we use it as it could be
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:59 AM on Wed, Dec 20, 2017:
Let’s change the damn world… https://t.co/nXV2d5Ka7G
ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day.. a nother way
Ian Welsh (@iwelsh) tweeted at 3:15 AM – 24 Dec 2017 :
One of the things I remember best from my training with @leashless “Ian, you need to accept that on Earth, God has terrible aesthetic (moral/ethical) preferences.”
Earth is as it is because humans want it as it is.
This truth needs deep thinking on. (http://twitter.com/iwelsh/status/944874209645383680?s=17)
Michel Bauwens (@mbauwens) tweeted at 3:03 AM – 1 Feb 2018 :
RT @instigating: “People buying #bitcoin are shorting the status quo” @leashless calls for collective investment in governance + lobbies https://t.co/kUjJlPB3Lb (http://twitter.com/mbauwens/status/959004348096352257?s=17)
post from dec 2017 – The great ICO freeze is beginning. What does it mean for crypto in 2018?
blockchains could enable a nearly zero-waste society. What’s that worth? 10% of GDP? 25% of GDP? 50% of GDP?
how do you have near zero waste if you’re still measuring gdp..? if you’re still measuring..?
On the other hand, unlike Libertarian visions of the future, a zero waste society must admit market failures need to be fixed by non-market mechanisms.
ie: mechs that make money/market irrelevant..
But everything improves as you reduce waste: waste is entropy, and is not life the constant process of order winning against entropy, of pattern’s victory over mere chaos?
winning against entropy ..? or swimming w it.. ? up cycling.. et al
If a year from now we’re going to see the crypto space at $1tn of assets (rather than less than five hundred million), it’s going to have to be like Apple: used by a billion people every day, and loved by most of them. Otherwise, it really will have been a bubble, and the wealth will drain away as quickly as it arrived. Build like hell, it’s the only thing that gives us a right to exist….We will need to show people things that really make people feel they are living in a better future to maintain these valuations.
need a mech/infra.. that is based on something 7 bn people already crave.. no sales pitch needed.. no training needed..
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:15 AM – 12 Feb 2018 :
The reason is that naming things is one of the two hard problems in computer science. The other is cache invalidation.
I have a deep, old philosophy of names. I haven’t been able to write it up properly yet! https://t.co/jtIBd1VH81 will have to do for now. https://t.co/qY9XL4hrRD (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/963023827654586372?s=17)
interview w @LukeRobertMason
hexayurt rejection because it lasts too long
11 min – fundamental problems 1\ if human beings feel they lack something they need they become aggressive (can go toward others via mechs including econ competition .. or toward nature via extraction).. so unless we find ways of getting everybody what they need we’re going to be continue to be exposed to enormous amounts of violence
12 min – and exposure to violence is not something that just happens to losers.. winners are also exposed to violence.. nobody really wants to live a life that’s dominated by violence.. so have to think in terms of resource abundance.. as way we unpack human psych/physical violence.. but getting to resource abundance is very difficult.. because so many of our systems are run on pure competition.. and even worse they’re run on status competition.. which is an endless treadmill.. end up with infinite consumption.. never satisfied..
13 min – so what i wanted to figure out during that 12 yr arc – how do we build the essential mechs of life at a cheap enough level that anybody could afford them.. even the people that are already very poor.. most of the work on poverty assumes the solution is to make poor people wealthier so they can compete in the market resources.. but then you have this ladder bubble.. if instead you take the price of central goods/services and bring them down to point where poor can afford them on their existent budgets.. nobody gets politically annoyed.. (ie: iphone for $15 vs double farmers wages)
what about people who don’t have any budget..? begs we disengage from money
so.. came to conclusion this was totally possible.. but came to conclusion that nobody would fund it.. then decided i would try the elon musk model of just take a bn dollars out of market capitalism and fund the research myself.. and that’s what i’m doing in blockchain
38 min – on cryptocurrencies as lab to experiment w hyper capitalism.. seeing smart people running around w a lot of money.. do amazing things..
graeber min/max law.. but need to get back to .. everyone getting that access
40 min – what are humans for if not to go out and explore the universe.. (have had means for some time).. why haven’t we.. a governance issue.. could have said.. moon is not enough.. and had radio broadcast coming back decades ago.. humans landing on another planet.. but.. we didn’t get our act together..
dang vinay.. how about.. to take care of each other.. here..
41 min – (luke): silicon valley.. (going into) space.. is all about infinite land.. ai about infinite slave labor.. what i worry about.. is the blockchain is essentially the third part of that.. which is the infinite growth of capital.. t.. we’re basing on such an old .. 1700 model (smith) .. are we in trouble sir..?
oh. it’s much worse than that.. that’s a billion year old model.. and it’s called life.. life expands to fill every available niche.. it mutates into the niches that it can’t currently get into.. and all resources get pulled in
wtf..? what about 99% of our existence wasn’t like that..?
42 min – i’m not saying the market model is a true rep of the state of nature.. it’s obviously not.. but at the end of the day.. why are we here.. i think it would be quite cool if in 5 bn years looking back.. said: those 21st cent humans really did a good thing when they got off the planet.. they took evolution into the stars.. that’s worth doing.. right.. to be of the generation that went interstellar.. we can be the only living things that have ever done it.. that’s worth doing.. i don’t think anything else is really that important.. grand sweep of cosmic history.. getting into the stars is the only thing that really matters.. everything else scrambles to dust.. but if we get out there and figure out how to live out there.. there’s a lot of out there.. nothing else you’re working on is really that important.. it’s all these local obsessions.. people fuss with.. saying.. it’s a terrible thing.. really..? compared to us getting hit by an asteroid and everybody dies and that’s the end of life on the entire universe.. none of it matters.. big mistake after ww2 when put a bunch of money toward missiles instead of toward rockets
44 min – the real bio politic is that life expands and when it doesn’t it turns cannibal.. because didn’t go to stars when we had the opp.. we’re murdering each other on earth.. and we’re not going to stop murdering each other on earth until we reclaim our birthright.. which is the high frontier.. we must go or we will murder each other
ethereum and smart contracts – way of arranging mass cooperation.. public choice
46 min – mars mission.. couple 100 bn.. probably funded by crypto currencies
47 min – luke: great.. for musk and all.. but what about us vinay..
50 min – so finally.. get to talk about econ.. this is basically an econ issue.. (internet 3.0)
51 min – 1\ john nash in early work.. situation that’s terrible for everybody.. coord problem to solve..
begs we leap.. much less ridiculous than going to the stars
53 min – 3\ benkler saying commons.. ie: wikipedia benefit is big completeness
54 min – what we missed.. and i think this is the unsolved problem of econ.. the big co’s from the free net
56 min – ability to rapidly move money to coordinate actions of species.. could use blockchain to police this system..
how about disengage from money.. worst middle man ever.. use gershenfeld sel to not have to police
57 min – but.. do we have the political will
no..not for that.. go deeper
59 min – your name is not your id.. what’s new.. is your ability to assign yourself a unique name.. this is what generation of crypto keys gives you.. a means to communicate w you w/o ability to steal your id.. this ability to self assign unique names gives us ability to org all kinds of things in the world..
oy.. let’s try curiosity (what matters to you today).. as label.. and org via 2 convos
ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…].. a nother way
1:00 – one of biggest problems we have is we don’t know what things are called.. ie: do this for toxic waste.. creating a global id commons.. et al.. how do we thinking about the naming of things.. the innovation of naming things is generally going to be a revolution
label.. just that.. let’s let that be our quiet revolution.. for all of us.. today
on free speech
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 0:53 PM on Wed, Mar 21, 2018:
“The blockchain the posterchild for individual, self-organised free speech creating higher-level political structures… if somebody is clever enough to figure out how to use free speech to create currency, it’s very hard to imagine you would stop that. https://t.co/MuU5DKZLxT
depends how you define currency.. there is a way to use free speech as our flow/circulation
I’m going to talk about individual rights. The blockchain is a system which, at least in theory, is constituted by individual actors from their right to free speech. *The blockchain records a **series of utterances, these are statements, and those statements carry with them a digital signature, the statement with a digital signature is taken as being ***an indicator of somebody’s free action, their free will, ..t .. and as a result it’s very hard to argue that the blockchain should be illegal.
imagine *recording (hostinglb).. **daily utterances (idio-jargon) .. ***indicator of truly free will (self-talk as data)
A series of statements are made by individuals, those statements are *interpreted by other individuals to authorise the transfer of value, and the value only exists because **individuals have chosen to recognise it as having value.
**imagine we determine 2 convos to have value.. imagine we determine daily self-talk to have value.. no need for *other’s interpretations.. as validation/authorization/et-al
It’s very hard to imagine a regime in which you can stop something like that, without fundamentally limiting speech. “You can have all the speech you like, but if your speech is interpreted by other people as being a transfer of value, I’m very sorry, you’re going to have to pay taxes on that.”
imagine doing all this sans money/measuring
So the machinery which is used to actually carry out your rights changes over time. .. we’re going to be in a position where there is a constant struggle over the interpretation and reinterpretation of basic human rights, as technology either strips those rights or reinforces those rights. And because electronic communications are a fantastic mechanism for speech, speech rights are the most heavily affected initial rights in these kinds of systems.
let’s focus on that (which also begs that people are detoxed)
ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…].. a nother way
convo w James Young (notes from convo on james’s page) on energy and blockchain
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 1:59 PM on Thu, Mar 22, 2018:
Watch this video about @ImpactPPA https://t.co/UVBfyYvnRP James and I discuss how #microgrids and #blockchain can transform life for billions of people, and the role of hardware in building a new economy. I’m glad to be part of this project!
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 2:07 PM on Thu, Mar 22, 2018:
A particularly fabulous part of the @ImpactPPA interview https://t.co/oI0pNGbYr2 James Young describes how his experience scaling Farmville is just like keeping electrical grids going, and avoiding brownouts is like preventing web servers falling over. Superb!
(on vinay – i can’t think of anyone else.. that is so smart/knowledgeable.. and yet extremely humble.. open to ideas.. considerate..)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 2:24 AM on Fri, Mar 23, 2018:
I awoke today with a clearer vision of The Question than I’ve had in a while. “Can software minimize waste and accidental damage, while also fostering benign pro-social behaviour?”
Note software could be “the market” or “religion” or any other social construct. Hard question.
i believe so.. software as it could be
ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…].. a nother way
and too.. then light lag time becomes irrelevant.. it’s the lag time between intention and action (locally) that matters.. to human energy and .. minimizing waste/damagae
convo w Ian (notes here)
“Listen as @leashless and @iang_fc have a fascinating talk about social structures of agreements, trust and dispute resolution, and the way Ricardian systems can be created to support it.” https://t.co/iQRcAtuALu https://t.co/3BruM8Tban
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/eosnewyork/status/981166987161284608
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 2:26 AM – 29 Apr 2018 :
As transhumanism really begins to kick in – life extension, race change surgery, intelligence increase and flawless gender reassignment technologies, among others, it’s going to be increasingly difficult to even *define* words like equality, equity and inclusion. https://t.co/5GSrc344hX(http://twitter.com/leashless/status/990507485051215872?s=17)
equity: everyone getting a go everyday
Vinay on reputation
We are using reputation to try and make sure bad things never happen! But this is never going to work: accidents happen, and reputation does not protect us from that. People change: reputation makes people prisoners of their past. Reputation requires identity and vulnerability.
advisor to econ space w : Vinay, Ben, Douglas, Esko, Marina, Brett, ..
We are going to need to be much, much smarter about this blockchain thing. It’s not clear to people that we are building tools to manage scarce planetary resources through the difficult 21st century. They think it’s just an extension of the current economy.
That *can’t* be true.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1002715630536151041
The current economy, for all its productivity, is too inefficient. 50% food waste on a planet of starving people. Orphan drugs and orphan diseases. Deforestation. Sea plastic.
All of that comes from mispricing assets and measuring the wrong things.
Accept no smaller challenge.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1002716982339350528
perhaps it comes from measuring.. at all..
accept no smaller challenge v
The blockchain is for building the next economy: correctly price externalities, and count every dropped grain of rice. Levy economic taxes to foster and force radical resource efficiency. Double, then quadruple, the number of humans who experience plenty – then bring up the rest!
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1002717431402565632
perhaps the blockchain (or whatever) is for building the next economy: cure ios city
sans measuring/pricing.. just connecting
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 7:00 AM – 13 Oct 2018 :
I used to be such a utopian hippie https://t.co/N6FQe39vpD over the years of trying to implement vision on this scale I finally realized *we simply do not have enough competent people that give a damn* to turn the world around with social consciousness.
Hence the hard path now. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1051095233931423744?s=17)
I don’t want to raise my future children in a culture where the government takes their money and uses it to kill people, and will put them in jail if they say “no!” R
My disaster relief/deep dark green people have been wondering what I’ve been doing since 2014: I didn’t give up, I grew up. I’m building the tools that are within my reach to solve the resource allocation, pollution control, sharing economy problem. @mattereum fits on my old map.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1051259179485286401
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:25 AM – 15 Nov 2018 :
I’m having one of those odd mornings where the entire civilizational process looks like an industrial design question. Like, just, really, do we need all this complexity? How did people get so confused about what matters?
Are we sure any of this actually matters? Just FIX IT. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1063045247616409600?s=17)
a nother way – a story about people grokking what matters
let’s just facil daily curiosity ie: cure ios city
tech as it could be..
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 1:25 PM – 13 Dec 2018 :
My @ethereum #DEVCON4 talk on the future of Ethereum, smart contracts and the blockchain is now online, entitled “How to control the material world with smart contracts.” There’s a transcript, too. https://t.co/3DjFJYLgqy Thanks for recording it, guys! @Mattereum (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1073312917175631872?s=17)
25 min talk
3 min – i’m completely convinced that the sync of the world’s computers for all purposes of global trade is going to end up on a blockchain or a closely equiv tech.. this is *the big game.. this is what we’re chasing.. can either wind of w a better world because that same system tracks **carbon, slavery, environ pollution, oppression, .. or we can have a system that washes all hands and leaves you w no record keeping..t
*let go of trade.. and augment interconnectedness..
**better to be left with no slavery, environ pollution, oppression et al..
5 min – this is our issue.. we are having a horrible problem breaking out into the real world so that we can use smart contracts to solve fiat assets.. until we solve this problem we are not fully empowered..t
until we let go of control.. ie: contracts.. we’ll never be fully empowered
what we need most: the energy of 7bn alive people
we can’t get hold of the future and shape the future because as soon as we get outside the world of smart-contracts/crypto-assets we’re suddenly powerless.. the magic stops happening
until we let go (of contracts/crypto/assets/et-al).. we’re powerless.. there is no magic
i know how to get to the real world now.. i know how to control it w smart contracts.. some of you will hate/love it.. please if you know of another way.. let me know..t
a nother way: cure ios city
18 min – lawyers are simply programmers for the real world.. and world is nasty place so lawyers basically constantly writing error handling code
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:48 PM on Mon, Feb 18, 2019:
Just ignore the culture: it’s all garbage. Go to the data, learn from the data, act on the data. Fuck politics, fuck other people’s opinions: get facts, make up your own minds. Even deconstruct language: what is the State? Retell all stories in an evolutionary context. No mystery
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:55 PM on Mon, Feb 18, 2019:
and that’ll do for tonight. it’s just a process of being realistic: make your moves on the most accurate maps you can find, and that’s largely about the 99% of the map which we choose not to see when we are making decisions. Zoom back, look up, make the wise choice. It’s simple.
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:32 PM on Mon, Feb 18, 2019:
How does the world work: two billion urban rich, a billion and a half urban poor, four billion rural poor, a handful of rural rich. Rich people are at 4x+ planets of consumption. In the worst places, 1/6 kids die before 5 and 1% of mothers die giving birth. Top 1% income? $32,000
assumes money..which makes us like whales in sea world
let’s try self-talk as data
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:42 PM on Mon, Feb 18, 2019:
I accept that you can’t know everything. But, for fuck’s sake people, zooming back 1000 years and thinking about 3 categories of people (urban/rural, poor/rich) and thinking maybe 20 years into the future along linear trends should not be too much to ask. It fits on a single page
think we have to go further/deeper to get to human potential.. and .. not do linear trends – not do trends at all.. am thinking that’s what got us to whales in sea world
so again.. what data .. is huge.. one page or volumes matters little if it’s illegit data.. no?
convo w Daniel Thorson
Ben Schulz (@bnschlz) tweeted at 4:39 AM – 9 Apr 2019 :
The Monster Factory. Love of “us” at the expense of “them” is destroying the world.
Nice work @leashless and @thorson.
Part I https://t.co/kljYA74tcX
Part II https://t.co/9ZAG0kWMx9 (http://twitter.com/bnschlz/status/1115564858978623489?s=17)
twitter handle above not right for Daniel Thorson.. it’s @dthorson – he’s from boulder – https://www.monasticacademy.com/
12 min – i’m really only about preventing extinction.. if we can do that.. possibly expand into space.. past that i have zero hope for everything else.. fairness/goodness/well-being.. we have blown everything there is to blow on all of those levels.. my advice is .. abandon all lesser causes.. none of it’s real.. none of it matters if we go extinct.. not because of global warming.. but because of political changes which will come because of a result of radically increased resource scarcity brought about by global warming.. ie: nuclear/bio weapons.. the more chaotic/violent the world gets.. the more dark the more crazy the solutions
25 min – huge ineq happening.. not because they (few at the top/wealthy) hate you .. but because they love their kids and are blinding selves to all others.. not being done by hate but by love.. that’s why it’s so hard to stop
27 min – love is not enough.. it’s by no means the highest virtue.. rather.. truth.. above love is truth
what is truth? who decides..?
has to be love vinay.. those people ‘acting out of love for kids’ .. that’s not love.. that’s fear.. (security for kids.. security is based on fear not love)
thurman interconnectedness law
29 min – everyone feeling they are doing the best they can.. but not enough.. so why do it
it’s less about doing so much and more about sync.. to me.. the biggest/deepest problem is getting us back into sync..everyone in sync.. which can’t happen unless it’s everyone.. we can’t fix things.. we can just bring us all back together..
the ai humanity needs..
30 min – in reality.. nothing we can do in amount of time we have.. so we are looking for hacks to buy us some time to do something about resource scarcity.. if people have enough .. so they don’t feel they need to butcher their neighbor for resources.. to some degree we could get them to chill out about
doing enough about material scarcity that we could get people to chill out a little is about all i think is realistic at this point in history..t
you look at things like bi.. even a 3rd rate implementation of bi is likely to stop people starving in the streets.. even a lousy implementation of bi is likely to do a good job of stopping that (people falling off cliff).. worst part of anybody is..instability.. not knowing where money is coming from.. seems you could pull an enormous amount of anxiety out of society w bi.. not happier.. but less aggressively vicious and maybe less violent
33 min – i’m not talking massive save the world.. but maybe if people less scared..
34 min – now.. unable to prioritize.. we’re not noticing that we’re shooting people with one hand and handing out bandages with the other
rest of this and part 2 – mostly about awakening ness..
35 min – d: this helps me realize why we create monastic environs where you can contemplate these things w/o losing everything
imagine that space.. everyday.. for everyone.. ie: 2 convers as infra
@dthorson: I predict we will soon see the rise of emergent self-governing collectives organized around shared problems or purpose. To participate in these collectives will require a high degree of sovereignty.
maybe just curiosity ie: cure ios city
am thinking that would save a ton of energy.. by creating diff collectives..
1:04 – so much energy has been poured into this massive awakening dream (like eradicating racism – not gonna happen).. that could be poured into doing practical stuff in the world..
what we need most: the energy of 7bn alive people
begs tech as it could be..
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:37 PM on Tue, Apr 09, 2019:
I’m fascinated by how hard-hitting people found these two podcasts @dthorson and I did recently. We didn’t talk about extinction, or pandemic flu, or genocide, or any of that stuff. https://t.co/3BRmMfUJTY
https://t.co/qCzE2nwwdiWe talked about *money* and homelessness and lies.
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:38 PM on Tue, Apr 09, 2019:
What really amazes me is the difference in reactions between part one and part two: part one, lots of fanfare. Part two, flat silence. Mostly we talk about the struggle of knowing how to help in a world gone things wrong. https://t.co/3BRmMfUJTY
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:42 PM on Tue, Apr 09, 2019:
I know we all want a two car garage (to put our fab lab in, if not a car) and free health care. These are our rights, right? But we share a planet with a million people who will starve to death this year. Socialism failed. Now what? https://t.co/3BRmMfUJTY
28 min video – Oslo Blockchain Day – Merging the Physical and the Digital using blockchains
(my ‘quotes’ below are paraphrases of vinay.. not direct quotes)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:05 AM – 5 May 2019 :
My @OsloBlockchain keynote, MERGING THE PHYSICAL AND THE DIGITAL, looks at how the @Mattereum approach will do for objects what the internet did for information. @ExtinctionR, climate, rebuilding the global economy to be clean and green. It’s a big talk! https://t.co/FZ1EQrFwNV (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1124978430271946753?s=17)
(on everyone wanting high standard of living w/o hurting planet): not worried about destruction.. solar panels will take over destructive means of energy.. will carry on as now
ie: burger king making vegie burger.. soon no longer need meat
12 min – can’t imagine going back before the web allowed us to search anything on web.. same way for physical world.. outcomes of all info on net have been ie: translation
14 min – if you put everything on line of physicals.. will be unthinkable just as translation
there are already numbering systems for physical things.. we have huge amounts of this data sloshing around in silos.. what we haven’t had is a convergence of this data.. all the data is already there.. if un siloed.. could give a number of warnings.. ie: ingredients in foods you buy
17 min – this could lead to automated morality.. ie: if don’t want to buy tobacco/alcohol anymore.. credit card can over see that.. but you’re in control of those policies.. we’re in a position where advertisers are in charge of this now
18 min – blockchain is a way of us doing collective knowledge.. in a way that allows us to make sense and make decisions together
what we need more is a mech to free us up daily to curiosity (rather than decision making)
it’s not more revolutionary than what we did to software.. where we get ie: wikipedia
if tightly tied to payment.. into reality of how world works
21 min – if you could tie this automated morality and open data framework together w the payments as the third rail.. have ability for people to navigate their way thru the complexity of the world
of an existing/ supposed to world (like ie: whales in sea world).. not a free world.. which is the real potential we have today.. ie: getting us back/to an undisturbed ecosystem
a parody between us as individual actors and the forces that tend to control us
like ie: payment aka: money (any form of measuring/accounting)
22 min – the consequences are not as bad as we think they are.. ie: offset of carbon not that large.. expensive in impoverished places.. but here.. card lets you know when purchase if carbon excessive.. adjusts.. not much more to buy diff
24 min – company to do this: mattereum.. allows everyone.. to find out everything (metadata) on what they buy/sell
26 min – how i got here.. 2002 i invented hexayurt.. trying to build humanitarian solutions to refugee situation we knew was coming.. turns out it was not enough.. if we don’t change thing at head end.. they way we do that is thru transparency.. ie: software to map our impact.. as we nudge ourselves back from the abyss..
we do the hard work of indexing matter.. and we clean up our societies from richest/most-capable places first..
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 4:36 AM – 8 Jun 2019 :
The age of the (hexayurt) https://t.co/Yz4zmth8Mk approaches. I started work on it in 2002, and devoted most of 14 years to figuring out how to rehouse 300 million climate migrants. See https://t.co/4hWmzoTBXGfor the rest of the tool kit. I’m working hard on asset governance now @mattereum https://t.co/B7OZwPE5Kj (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1137307485042290688?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:00 AM – 9 Jun 2019 :
And almost nobody is broken enough to suppress their true identity as they try to imitate icons of success. Who you are will always surface. The internal conflict between the mask and the man creates paralysis.
Almost nobody can Be Somebody Else well enough to win wearing a mask (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1137690862878711809?s=17)
and that win is no win
ie: wilde not-us law; whales in sea world
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:57 AM – 20 Jun 2019 :
I have to remind myself every so often why I am doing what I am doing: I came into the blockchain space hoping to become wealthy enough to privately finance a large scale innovation project to handle climate refugees. I put in 14 years pre-Ethereum. See https://t.co/4hWmzoTBXG (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1141676418960646151?s=17)
Much as I get a little lost in the weeds sometime, this is what I’m doing with my life: inspired by Elon Musk to participate in capitalism to earn the money to fund the R&D to scale the hexayurt project to manage the climate refugee crisis FOSS people might call this
super.. but hexayurt (living spaces) not enough.. need people to be free too/first.. still same cycle (yes kinder but) if don’t let go of ie: supposed to’s.. of school/work
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:16 AM – 23 Jun 2019 :
I think the problem with getting people to act on the climate crisis isn’t culture, but instinct. Also, scale – there are just too many people for all previous models of cooperation to work. Even authoritarianism doesn’t work at a planetary scale. It’s one hell of a ramp. #filter (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1142768282820390916?s=17)
model of coop not yet tried: 2 convers as infra
Feels like the end of a 20 year cycle. I’ve taken a lot of roles, tried a lot of things. Some successes, more failures, much learned. The scenarios I foresaw in 2001, hundreds of millions on the move because of climate change, now seem close enough to touch. I wish I’d done more.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1143320155411365889
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:55 AM – 30 Jun 2019 :
The objective for @Mattereum was twofold: 1) make the money necessary to fund my own philanthropic technology projects, given that conventional funders are too short sighted to do infrastructure development, and 2) build a “stuff tracker” for the entire world. Nice, clear goals. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1145299703929528320?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:00 AM – 30 Jun 2019 :
The goals are really clear. But wow the world is filled with fail. People just cannot keep their minds on the big goals. I started the hexayurt with a 30 year plan in mind, because everything I could see made it clear that’s how long change on that level took. I was 30, aim at 60 (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1145301119675109376?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:03 AM – 30 Jun 2019 :
But we have no social mechanisms for funding projects which will get done over 30 years, other than funding them a year at a time. We don’t even have academic tenure any more. How are we going to plan for the far future, if we can’t *plan for the far future* because of budgets? (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1145301792684761089?s=17)
design/plan for budget (money/measure) to become irrelevant
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:05 AM – 30 Jun 2019 :
“Feed all the people. Build the space ships.”
How hard is it really? If we put all these lovely big computers on it, if we actually focus on meeting both human needs and human aspirations? If we treat natures as having rights? The abstract models are easy and mostly unchanging. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1145302427723325441?s=17)
first.. need detox.. to get to legit needs/aspirations.. currently we’re like whales in sea world
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:14 AM – 30 Jun 2019 :
But the bastard is the interface between simple, clear goals, and the dumpster fire of human history and current practice. The mechanisms we have for financing and monitoring big jobs just isn’t there, and the sum of self interest still is not universal benevolence. There’s a gap (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1145304569645273088?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:16 AM – 30 Jun 2019 :
I think there’s room – and yes, this is a blockchain project – for something which has the general structure of a charity, but is transparent down to the dollar level – and can therefore be trusted to do jobs which are currently largely left to government (i.e. vaccines / space) (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1145305021342502912?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:08 AM – 19 Jul 2019 :
My sense, looking at the news, is that we have passed another level down in the fascism process. It’s not any single thing, it’s the shape of things interconnected. It’s like there’s no stabilizer left, the resistance seems exhausted.
What do we do now? (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1152188400885215232?s=17)
maté basic needs as stabilizer
let’s focus on and facil that
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 6:05 AM – 6 Aug 2019 :
This is pretty much my TED talk on @Mattereum and automated morality. https://t.co/djG2UI3EV7 A ten minute rundown on how the blockchain can change the way we make decisions to make it easy to do the right thing. Now, more than ever, we need tools for change. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1158710671820935168?s=17)
tools for change we need most: mech to listen to daily curiosity.. renders decision making secondary to irrelevant
tech as it could be..
vinay on identity
We need new ways to get clean. Something like Alcoholics Anonymous but for moral compromise and for “turning a blind eye to things.”
This is what animates both https://t.co/3gnfvEOTJV and https://t.co/s5TOuGP9fX
Getting to the truth. Overcoming our willful blindness, together.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1162906672697880576
detox via daily curiosity ie: cure ios city
matterum manifesto keynote
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 7:01 PM on Tue, Aug 20, 2019:
To fix this we would have to get everybody down to one planet’s worth of consumption.
How much pain that causes depends on how good our technology for stretching that one planet’s worth of resources is.
Almost all other political questions are irrelevant. Think in footprints!
perhaps easier if we first create an environ where 7b people aren’t trying to fill holes (almaas holes law) with irrelevant needs/wants.. think in cure ios city
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 5:33 AM on Thu, Sep 12, 2019:
For the first time in my life, I think I have a reasoned pathway forwards which makes me thing humanity might be mostly alright in the future.
It was a shift of perspective about how we use engineering. Nothing metaphysical. Just a reframing of the problem statement.
There will be a big ol’ blog post with the gory details in the next few days. It’s been a long, slow process here, integrating
with my earlier environmental work from the early 2000s. Feels solid. Feels right. It’s as hard as oak, and as clear as pyrex.
44 min read: How post-industrial capitalism and a new type of big data will save the planet
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 3:06 PM on Fri, Sep 13, 2019:
https://t.co/5DqxV53Cif is the @Mattereum business case, for how #Ethereum smart contracts can fuse to Digital Twins to produce a new kind of capitalism – a capitalism capable of providing for seven billion people.
We need transparency, accountability and trust to govern the world, and Mattereum will deliver it
we need trust.. we just need trust – unconditional trust (oxymoron) for unconditional free\dom (oxymoron)
Our goal is to enable a significant reduction of the environmental and social harms caused by inefficiencies in industrial capitalism
answer is 7b people living their fittingness
The problem is vast and twofold: it lies in the way industrial production has been engineered to respond to demand and consumption, to the neglect of investment and the disposal of objects at the end of their lifecycle. This leads to significant environmental and social harms and trillions in wasted or lost revenue.
rather.. problem is in our focus on production/demand/consumption.. most sustainable/thrivable thing to focus on is daily curiosity ie: cure ios city
Psychological needs cannot ever be fully satisfied by material things. We all know this, but we all play the game (for now).
almaas holes law.. begs we focus on the two things each soul already craves.. ie: maté basic needs
The mechanisms we have been using to get good outcomes are not working any more: the mechanisms we expect to help the system self-correct all seem to point the wrong way at the wrong time, and the levers of change appear to be connected to the 8-track player in the dashboard, not to the wheels. We can change the music, but we can’t seem to change the direction. We are skidding.
perhaps we need a mechanism that makes outcomes obsolete.. we need to change more than the direction..
is it a wonder that we can’t think straight about what we want?
exactly – whales in sea world – we have no idea
With the click of a button, the smart contract activates, processes the transaction, and buyers can now enjoy an unparalleled level of protection from misinformation regarding the things they buy.
this is like fixing a mech to help cancer better perpetuate itself
we have the means .. to now make money (any form of measuring/accounting) our planned obsolescence
tweet from vinay about same 44 min read article
@leashless: Gupta #Longreads crew medium.com/humanizing-the… there’s fifteen years of wisdom crammed into this thing, and it’s a fundamental analysis about how to fix industrial capitalism using the #blockchain. Read, analyze, process, promulgate. We need new thinking on the global situation.
‘protection from misinfo regarding the things they buy’ not deep enough
‘new thinking on the global situation’: money (any form of measuring/accounting) our planned obsolescence.. ie: ubi as temp placebo..
@leashless: money as planned obsolescence? I don’t understand.
ie: ubi as a temporary placebo.. to free people up enough to not think about money/measuring.. so we can realize we don’t need it.. in fact.. that it (money/measuring) is poisoning us
@leashless: I’ve got nine billion people to feed, and finite land. I need to do math to make this work…
perhaps.. and perhaps that’s what keeps getting in the way.. i’m thinking that doing the math.. is what’s gotten us to where we are now
@leashless: Nobody doing the math properly got us here.
admire your work/drive/insight.. hope you’re right.. i just think this is one major mistake we keep making over and over.. thinking math.. (rather than getting the conditions right – 7/9 b free people – and then trusting that/us) could ever fix this.. could ever be proper/legit
of math and men et al
undisturbed ecosystem et al
‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 9:15 PM on Thu, Oct 10, 2019:
The solution may be incremental patches to the current status quo. But you, my dear friends, feel the subtle evil of the nuclear bombs, asleep in their silos, every time you pay your taxes.
This is the real world. Climate change is the *second* big problem. We ignored the first.
we gotta go deeper..
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 8:56 PM on Thu, Oct 10, 2019:
You don’t get the world to work, or to safety, without addressing the nuclear issue. That’s the hellish spike that is driven into the human soul.
“What is the matrix?” you ask?
The Matrix is the psychological barrier we all put in place to cover Mutually Assured Destruction.
so let’s work on that.. let’s go with a structure to address that.. not ie: nuclear bombs
maté basic needs as stabilizer
let’s focus on and facil that
ie: 2 convers as infrastructure
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 9:03 PM on Thu, Oct 10, 2019:
“The Matrix” is the belief that civilizations that are dedicated to the sacred mystery of creating and maintaining nuclear weapons are, in fact, civilizations at all.
If you want to dream, dream me a world in which we do use nukes to maintain our political boundries. Root issue.
root issue?.. go deeper
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 9:08 PM on Thu, Oct 10, 2019:
You want a mass awakening? These screaming lunatics are spending trillions of dollars of your money maintaining the capability to completely exterminate all life in your planet.
Wake up to that. Let it hit you so hard you question the meaning of society itself. Savour it. Aware.
yes .. this is ridiculous and may wake some people.. but it’s not the problem/focus/desire we need.. not deep enough to work as the infrastructure of our ie: cure
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 9:12 PM on Thu, Oct 10, 2019:
You can’t fix this civilization with piecemeal mental patches.
You need to get it clear in your head that the entire thing broke with the nuclear bomb, and we are cowed, terrified versions of ourselves, constantly oppresses by the unconscious fear of the nuclear end.
defusing nuclear bomb.. part of piecemeal patches.. and would never really difuse it..
ie: gershenfeld something else law
Nick Stewart (@nickstew_art) tweeted at 6:16 AM on Tue, Oct 15, 2019:
“Fascinating” Mr Gupta! Isn’t that “disjunction” between production and consumption precisely where the politics sits? Can we really have a tech-fix without addressing capitalism?
@leashless: Can we run a consumer society *and* hugely cut waste? Yes, and this talk describes how https://youtu.be/7vkcHRdH2r4 the short answer? Creators make digital identity for physical things which lasts the object’s whole lifetime, tracks carbon, and helps you sell it when you are done.
11:11 min video – oct 15 2019 – mattereum manifesto
1 min – (on shatner and star wars collectibles) why am i doing stuff with the collectibles when the world is in on fire .. climate refugees.. et al.. we need to get computers to deal with the real world properly
collectibles and proper ness big part of the problem .. no? whales collecting things in sea world as real world..?
2 min – we’ve got 9b people.. the econ has left 1b starving and 1b fat.. enormous defense spending.. most military say is mis allocated.. et al.. our handling of the material world.. is in shambles.. and that’s what’s producing/causing climate et al.. that entire set of structures is being driven by the fact that we don’t seem to be able to connect cause to effect in the physical world.. you go to a shop.. you buy something.. you’ve no idea where it came from
again – what’s the point of connecting cause to effect for whales in sea world as real world..(buying things as ie)? that’s spinning wheels of a broken feedback loop.. getting better at.. spending time analyzing.. being distracted by.. the wrong thing.. what you might call irrelevants.. go deeper
3 min – if we don’t keep track of what’s happening in the world.. how can we ever expect to change what’s happening in the world.. if you don’t measure anything.. how can you modify.. we’re just *guessing
two problems here: 1\ keeping track.. as in any form of measuring/accounting.. is poison/cancerous.. the problem itself 2\ trying to change/modify others.. we need to focus on setting people free first.. and then let go.. trust (unconditional) us
i’m thinking that what you’re proposing is *being more accurate about the wrong things.. we have to let going of thinking we know things.. this is inspectors of inspectors ness.. too much vinay
mufleh humanity law: we have seen advances in every aspect of our lives except our humanity– Luma Mufleh
we’ve gone thru centuries of trying to get better control of things.. it’s kind of one of the hallmarks of wester civ.. trying to achieve control
yeah.. control is a killer.. and why we haven’t yet gotten to global equity..
civilization et al
we got really effective control of info over centuries of librarianship
matters little if it’s the wrong info.. what we need to focus on is self-talk as data.. if we want to get back/to undisturbed ecosystem..‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows
librarian’s job was to know exactly what info was.. where it could be located .. how it could be obtained.. who had written it.. whether it was accurate..
part of legibility as control
4 min – that librarianship practice then poured onto the internet in the form of work that was done to org docs and pre standards for things like search data when we moved onto the web.. that bedrock of librarianship and all the statistical modeling that was done on info as we are doing w internet search.. all of that stuff is why we don’t consider info to be scarce anymore.. anybody over age of 35 has an idea of what info scarcity is like when you had a question.. and parents didn’t know answer and didn’t have a book..
so..we’re in a period where we’ve got an enormous scarcity of physical things.. but we have managed over about 30 yrs to get rid of info scarcity.. we did it thru a range of things.. started w text, then images, then sound, then short films then long films.. then we did radio.. for all intents and purposes.. we went category by category.. eradicating info scarcity
5 min – so the next thing on the internets list of things to do.. notice i say internet and not the blockchain.. is to do the same .. for scarcity of physical goods.. does anybody feel like they own too much stuff and it’s poorly organized
6 min – we’ve poured into investment and production.. the consumption and waste haven’t been touched at all
in order to sell something.. you have to go thru all the process of what the thing is..
why aren’t ‘selling/buying’ things .. irrelevants
this is happening because we don’t have stable identities for physical things
to me.. thinking we need identity.. part of the problem
7 min – as soon as you buy something.. it loses it’s value.. what that’s creating is an enormous mismatch between the production systems and the consumption systems..an enormous river of goods being trashed that are perfectly useful if we could only id what we want.. and an enormous loss of money to consumers.. because everybody is in a position that the things that we want.. typically last longer than our desire for them
the mismatch we need to focus on .. first.. is what we really need/want.. ie: maté basic needs
8 min – ie: fashions change and you want to get rid of it.. but you can’t get rid of it unless you take a 50% loss or..
let go of money (any form of measuring/accounting)
your choices are: store in back of closet; give to a charity shop; or sell it on ebay.. but even selling on ebay requires a bunch of labor
9 min – why is anything going to a landfill when there are billions of people going without
that is true.. but again.. and specific to climate.. we don’t need most of the things in the landfill in the first place
and the answer is.. we throw away all the info.. so the objects aren’t attached to their stories.. can’t do search.. can’t find market places for these things.. *and if we fix that.. we could keep most of the structure of the consumer society going.. where goods are still available for purchase and you can do what you like with them.. as long as they go directly to an efficient secondary market.. so the goods are in use by some human being right to the end of their (goods?) life
*wow.. death wish
the actual environmental impact of buying something.. is divided by all the people that subsequently use it.. so what this provides is a possible avenue for us to radically cut our environ impact and the same time we rapidly increase our quality of life
not radical/rapid enough.. and still perpetuating that cancer
10 min – that creates the necessary econ incentives to do quality manufacturing of long life durable goods.. collective custodianship..
to me.. thinking we need incentives.. esp econ incentive.. is a red flag we’re doing it wrong
so that’s what i think we should be working on in the blockchain space.. we need something that is the equivalent of total quality control to truly revolutionize mass production..
what i think we should be working on: hlb via 2 convers that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…].. a nother way
we need something that is the equivalent of total quality control to truly revolutionize mass production.. t
rather .. we need to let go of control.. to truly experience ie: revolution of everyday life.. getting us back to an undisturbed ecosystem
we need an equivalent structure for consumption and waste management .. and we need it now as a critical part of meeting the un’s sustainable developments..t
rather.. we need a structure for augmenting our interconnectedness.. otherwise we’re still spinning our wheels on irrelevants
and we need *it now.. as a critical part of getting to the energy of the energy of 9b alive people.. *ie: 2 convers as infrastructure
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 7:03 PM on Mon, Nov 18, 2019:
“Complex systems behave unpredictably.”
“Simple rules produce complex behavior. Complex rules produce stupid behavior.”
We know the lessons. We just don’t want to accept them: if you want control, you *have to* radically reduce system complexity. There’s just no way around this https://t.co/yKUYlQxWKc
2 conversations as infrastructure
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 1:19 PM on Sat, Jan 25, 2020:
An awful lot of people really enjoyed this thread about #badthink – a new way of looking at the roots of human cruelty and short sightedness as results an evolutionary heritage that we can overcome by the right kind of education and training.
Just as civilization became literate
rather.. by letting go of ed and training
to fix it we need to tell the truth
rather.. we need time/space to listen .. for what is already there..
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 10:40 PM – 7 Mar 2020 :
Fuck it, I’m doing flu.
VCs! Two of the three @mattereum core team have significant infectious disease epidemiology experience. I’m a hardened pandemic strategist.
Our company will survive this, and likely find new markets along the way.
Our CSR will be teaching infection ctrl (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1236527195738247168?s=17)
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 10:43 PM – 7 Mar 2020 :
I need four more pairs of hands to accelerate the company, and grow us enough that I can put significant personal effort into saving some lives and getting the https://t.co/Oxq0JasIAs work into the hands of more people who are facing the challenges that corona virus presents. (http://twitter.com/leashless/status/1236527891451711488?s=17)
*Which* human cultural traits are compatible with survival, and how do we promote those traits, and destroy the traits which threaten all life on Earth?
That’s the question I should have been asking: how do we purge culture so we are no longer trapped in a global suicide cult? https://t.co/Cul3cU8u9K
1\ authenticity 2\ attachment (maté basic needs)
@leashless @davebryand Personal “transformation” tends to get co-opted by our deep civ norms and most transf work fails to take this into account.
To go deeper than the civ operating system and stay there is the type of work I’m talking about. Seems very rare to find people actually doing that.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/nclaurence/status/1278521186217910272
begs a means/mech with a detox embed.. to ongoingly get/keep us in a humane os
ie: cure ios city
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 11:16 PM on Fri, Jul 03, 2020:
I can’t think of a single globally dominant cultural idea which isn’t based on lies by the time it gets to implementation.
Close candidates: scientific method, free press, universal franchise for voting.
Even great ideals are massively attacked and subverted. The rest is worse.
feedback loop needs to be based on listening deeper .. not on responding/conforming (rna-ing)
detox humanity needs: daily reset – groundhog day ness
art (by day/light) and sleep (by night/dark) as re\set.. to fittingness/undisturbed ecosystem
we need to let/expect our iterations to randomly change
we’re not machines/machine-like
There is a an ethical, virtuous economy hiding inside of our corrupted slavery-and-ecocide economy. To reach it we need fairly strong guarantees of safety (basic income?) so we don’t slaughter each other to protect our (future) kids.
The economy of virtue is small, but also huge https://t.co/xxBUMXAKBq
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1288148479668301826
imagine if we just focused on listening to the itch-in-8b-souls.. first thing.. everyday.. and used that data to augment our interconnectedness.. we might just get to a more antifragility..
best safety/protection.. if we go this deep
Vinay Gupta (@leashless) tweeted at 1:16 PM on Tue, Jul 28, 2020:
After only 20 years, the mass media is now asking the same question that prompted me to start the Hexayurt Project.
Let me tell you, living in the future is so frustrating at times. So frustrating.
This is what the hexayurt is for. Handling this problem.
resonating.. but asking .. what could everyone do/be..
this is what cure ios city is for
Is this the “genius of capitalism” in progress, or is this just wasting everybody’s time?
Compare https://t.co/nqzrpso3gE to https://t.co/RQ23brJHLP
Do we just manufacture every variation and let “the market” sort it out *forever* or does (for example) AI come in and organize?
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1293092743984680960
what we need is an infra/org to get us back/to knowing what enough is
I am impatient to redesign the material layer of the world into something which produces happiness not just for this generation, but for every generation subsequently.
Poor people *can* own great things: just look at how amazing cheap android phones are these days, or e-bikes.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1293099166982459393
webfoundation just tweeting that 2.5 million can’t afford devices
New research from @A4A_Internet looks at the price and affordability of smartphones across 70 countries.
They found devices are too expensive for nearly 2.5 billion people — and it’s keeping them offline. https://t.co/WGf9tfkIYH
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/webfoundation/status/1293111677802541056
Are we ready to actually solve some shit here?
I’ve been ready for years.
Covid and the American collapse were inevitable. Now we just have to push as hard as we can, while the old order is in trouble, to fix everything within reach.
The material base layer is in deep trouble.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1293118158304358401
material base layer won’t be fixed (legit addressed) until people are free enough to grok enough ness
I need to write a piece or record a couple of podcasts on the spiritual aspects of design (i.e. right action) in a starving, boiling, warring world.
We need proper spiritual attention on the *things* and that inattention is what multiplies into ecocide and climate change. https://t.co/I4dU41sbMK
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1293119295925497862
if we really want to fix things.. need to let go of writing/telling et al
and.. deeper than ‘things’.. we need a refocus on itch-in-the-soul.. a means to undo our hierarchical listening (get back/to enough ness) ie: 2 convers as infra
Mattereum CEO Vinay Gupta’s @leashless new book ‘The Future of Stuff’ published by @unbounders is avaialble to order!
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/mattereum/status/1322138313864679425
not at library/prospector.. like jason’s and yanis’s.. probably won’t get to read
fb reply to michel – when asked if he has a special focus now:
I’m convinced that if I don’t claw my way into a very strong financial position, strong enough to simply pay people to implement my vision, nothing is going to happen and I’ll die penniless like Robert Anton Wilson, who’s life’s work was worth 23 dollars each.
Elon Musk was right, and I was wrong. So now I’m fully participating in capitalism, because this stuff is not going to get done unless I am in charge: anarchists, communitarians, charities, State and military all had a chance to domicile my work, and nobody had the vision and fortitude to do it.
So now I’m left at 50 in empire building mode. A bit late to start, but I picked fertile ground.
Brutal.And when I say “money” I’m talking about *spending* a couple of hundred million dollars a year through the critical climate refugee period – maybe 1% or more of global spending on refugee management – to show the rest of the world how to turn their money into saved lives effectively.Make no small plans.
Agreed. I’ll go further. If you have an established relationship with him, I will not work with you. I’ve already passed on podcasts for this reason and will do so across the board. Very bad guy. https://t.co/GA673q8NWp
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/jgreenhall/status/1450912746732544001
linked to thread that starts this way (and has vinay interacting with it – defending himself):
Alright I have waited long enough for journalists to do their job: I am done
@leashless, stay away from women
I have heard from so many in our community—including one who is now dead—that you are absolutely horrendous behind closed doors
You should not be invited to speak ever https://t.co/c3eylgoNTj
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/ricburton/status/1450374546234626048
twitter convo between cory doctorow and vinay gupta
@leashless @VladZamfir @mattereum I wish you all the luck in the world with your project. It sounds genuinely laudable. I will continue to ask the central question about it: “Does the method for incentivizing participation undermine the social factors that will determine its success?”
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1493604665375825931
perhaps thinking we need incentives is a red flag..(to undermining ness)
need: means to undo our hierarchical listening so we can org around legit needs
@doctorow @VladZamfir @mattereum @avalancheavax Getting rid of oligarchy while leaving behind a functional society is extremely difficult, dangerous, and unpredictable work.
It’s far harder than replacing one oligarchy with another, which *functionally speaking* is what the blockchain is doing right now: “throw the bums out.”
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/1493610747208818695
not difficult.. we just aren’t listening deep enough to see it
predictable is the dangerous thing