douglas rushkoff

douglas rushkoff bw

First encounter – Program or Be Programmed, book links to amazon:

prgram or be prorammed


team human (book)

team human podcast


Find him many places – perhaps start here:

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and/or here:

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and now on team human

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douglas rushkoff site

present shock

book links to amazon


present shock notes..

present shock highlights

so many resonating thoughts/ideas…


The fractal is less threatening when its shapes are coming from the inside out.

without an agenda

Jerry seemed content to attend for attendance’ sake.

For Michalski, the “self” is defined by connections. TheBrain isn’t about him, but about everyone else he has met

As of today, Jerry has over 173,000 thoughts in his brain file, and 315,000 links between them, all created manually.23

It’s amazing what creative people can come up with when there’s nobody there telling them what to do.”

The fractal is the beautiful, reassuring face of this otherwise terrifying beast of instantaneous feedback. It allows us to see the patterns underlying the seeming chaos, the cycles within the screechy collapsed feedback of our everything-all-at-once world

Fractals are really just a way of making sense of that screech. Deep inside that screech is the equivalent of one of those cyclical, seemingly repetitive Philip Glass orchestral compositions. We just don’t have the faculties to hear i

after talking about nipping things in the bud.. [again – the starfish]:

there is no bud. Just pollen. Everywhere.

In a networked ideascape, the ownership of an idea becomes as quaint and indefensible a notion as copyright or patents. Since ideas are built on the logic of others, there is no way to trace their independent origins. It’s all just access to the shared consciousness. Everything is everything.

Nothing’s personal—except maybe the devices through which we connect with the network. New ideas seem to emerge from a dozen places at once, a mysterious zeitgeist synchronicity until we realize that they are all aspects of the same idea, emerging from a single network of minds

Steven Johnson would remind us, ideas don’t generally emerge from individuals, but from groups, or what he calls “liquid networks.”1 The coffeehouses of eighteenth-century London

spaces of permission – with nothing to prove – play:

There is no time for an artist or scene to develop unless those involved take extreme measures to isolate themselves and avoid being noticed

taking care of 7 billion artists – a plan for 100% of humanity:

the beauty of a flow-based economy is that it favors those who actively create value

Yes and no,” I replied, breaking the binary conventions of digital choice making

Digital time ignores nearly every feature of kairos, but in doing so may offer us the opportunity to recognize kairos by its very absence

Chronos can be represented by a number; kairos must be experienced and interpreted by a human.

Kairos is perfect timing relative to what’s going on, where chronos is the numerical description of what happens to be on the clock right then.

while digital technology can serve to disconnect us from the cycles that have traditionally orchestrated our activities, they can also serve to bring us back into sync

betting on the sync

Seeing this previously hidden information gives us new access to natural rhythms and the ability to either adjust them or adjust ourselves and our lives to their warning signals.

Or better than simply following along, technologies can sync to us and generate greater coherence for all of us in the process

Everything is recorded, yet almost none of it feels truly accessible.

The time it took to open a file drawer was recorded down to the hundredth of a second, in order to determine the standard time required to complete any job. Once that was known, the efficiency of any particular worker could be measured against it

In a scheduled world, you are told you have half an hour to peruse an exhibit at the museum; in a programmed world, you are strapped into the ride at Disneyland and conveyed through the experience at a predetermined pace.

more here:


Facebook is not the Internet. It’s just one website, and it comes with a price.

agreed.. but the same is true about everywhere no? the same happens on twitter, no?


Life Inc. Dispatch 01: Crisis as Opportunity from Douglas Rushkoff on Vimeo.


Likewise, elementary school boards adopt “laptop” curriculums less because they believe that they’ll teach better than because they fear their students will miss out on something if they don’t. We feel proud that we’re willing to do or spend whatever it takes to use this stuff—with little regard to how it actually impacts our lives. Who has time to think about it, anyway?

Rushkoff, Douglas; Leland Purvis (2010-11-01). Program or Be Programmed (Kindle Locations 158-161). OR Books. Kindle Edition.

We do not know how to program our computers, nor do we care. We spend much more time and energy trying to figure out how to use them to program one another instead. And this is potentially a grave mistake.

Rushkoff, Douglas; Leland Purvis (2010-11-01). Program or Be Programmed (Kindle Locations 193-195). OR Books. Kindle Edition.

Most of the smart folks who could help us are too busy consulting to corporations—teaching them how to maintain their faltering monopolies. Who has time to consider much else, and who is going to pay for it?

Rushkoff, Douglas; Leland Purvis (2010-11-01). Program or Be Programmed (Kindle Locations 217-218). OR Books. Kindle Edition.


program or be programmed
great review of douglas rushkoff’s book
my fav quotes from Venessa:

  • If we agree to categorize ourselves based on the choices available, we become more predictable, our potential for exposure to novelty narrows, and we conveniently transform into statistics for consumer research and targeted advertising.
  • In some instances, all this tagging and categorization based on preferences is valued for the personalization it gives us and assistance in decision making. But, we should be aware that there is a point where a trade-off is being made, and we begin to voluntarily limit our perspectives and ability for growth.

[reminds me of Kevin Kelly’s what tech wants.. minimize what we do, but keep the options limitless]

  • No amount of reading or theorizing can replace prototyping, testing, and experiential learning and knowledge building.
  • In fact, it seems the closer you are to the actual creation of value, the further you get from the money.
  • In essence, we’re all marketing to each other instead of just doing the thing we’re advocating.
  • by approaching the digital experience with the understanding that nothing is really off the record, we can shape our online identities by being willing to own the words we say.
  • As Rushkoff put it, “The history of the Internet can probably best be understood as a social medium repeatedly shaking off attempts to turn it into something else.”
  • Like Buckminster Fuller said: You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.

via @zephoria

also from danah boyd
the 2011 horizons report 

wondering in the critical challenges if we flipped – went bottom up for importance. specifically, organizing, tagging/coding video documentation, esp conversation. (humanity 4.0 – all about convo)


Michael Wesch‘s 2011 rethinking ed:

1 min – Douglas Rushkoff et al- that’s not just – we’re getting another renaissance

4 min – if you’ve got enough links… you don’t need the hierarchy anymore..


the invention of the corporation..

our commitment to debt based system..

the distrust..

it’s good for when aliens attack..

not good when we want to inhabit reality..

we need to use our heads.

occupy – not just riling up against the now.. fighting an unlevel playing field that has been building up for years..

don’t let anything too particular define it

maintain cohesion without centrality..

now occupy your town.


four of us made the road trip to ContactCon – put on by Douglas and Venessa:



Douglas is evangelist for codeacademy:

codeacademy siteas it reads on site:

Douglas Rushkoff, PhD. (Digital Literacy Advocate), is a new media theorist and activist dedicated to promoting digital fluency around the world. His books include Program or Be Programmed, Present Shock, Life Inc, and Media Virus, and his PBS documentaries include Merchants of Cool, The Persuaders and Digital Nation. He also played keyboards for PsychicTV.


rushkoff on snowden

Ed Snowden is a hero because he realized that our very humanity was being compromised by the blind implementation of machines in the name of making us safe. Unlike those around him, who were too absorbed in their task to reflect on their actions and pause in their pursuit of digital omniscience, Snowden allowed himself to be “disturbed” by what he was doing. More in the midst of technology than most of us will ever be, Snowden disengaged for long enough to be human, and to consider the impact of what he was helping to build. He pressed pause.



17 min – maybe there’s not health care, but there’s healthier people…

26 min – let’s not re-ify the system

32 – how do we scaffold so that this can grow in a sustainable way.. because the shouting doesn’t work

1:07 – exactly nicco – create one that makes the original go away.. one that doesn’t even talking about voting.. congressmen.. 

1:16 – max interaction w/min coercion –

how about no coercion.. ?

1:19 – diversity… (nicco)

city as ecosystem

1:20 – security..

does security matter if transparency occurs as thunderclap

1:25 – tools.. (anna)

what if it’s our personal fabrication.. that makes it possible/useful any/every second

1:27 – collaboration to be easier (ben)

again – if the conversations are part of your being.. talking as data, app & collab space

1:31 – peer to peer

in the city

meet your neighbors..

big does go to small.. govt becomes neighborhood gatherings.. conversations/doing/being becomes your vote.



generation like (2014 53:04):

generation like

[also on thought maybe site here:]

are we all asking the wrong questions..

the social currency of this generation – likes.. instant gratification

for kids today – you are what you like

6 min – hunger games – teens forced by adults to battle each other as a form of public entertainment – being a fan isn’t so different. on their website.. kids can compete on twitter to be best fan

it’s really cool – them noticing you.. because other kids notice.. and then they like you too – empowerment

7 min – there’s no one there (online) saying – you can’t say that

9 min – getting people to be all about something is big business.. biggest transformation in communicating with consumers..

11 min – now a huge corp push to collect as much data as possible… who interacts with who.. who likes what.. where the currency of likes.. turns into actual money

12 min – instagram: 1 bill; twitter: 30 billion; facebook: 140 billion; prices based on volume of likes they can generate

to get kids involved: do it – by giving kids a chance to be a part of the game… ie: photos part of promotions

16 min – there’s no point in not wanting all of us to rise together..

17 min – new type of company – the audience – run social media in behalf of musicians/actors/etc – to build/leverage a social network

19 min – merging the fan bases  – then funded by major brands – everybody seems to be getting what they want…

21 min – soon – all those little likes turn into youtube gold – a walking billboard for sponsors

24 min – views rise as videos gets racier (even though his passion is skateboarding)


26 min – ways to get seen more? do crazy stuff.

seth – money isn’t the only currency.. suddenly your arm doesn’t hurt  -because you know you’re famous

how much fame is enough…

28 min – oliver’s company is running the show (not so much the talent of the person) – the audience – in the end.. selling the audience.. and the audience is you

obvious and transparent.. or simply invisible…

customer as marketer… get the audience to sell the product for them… embeds trust, ie: adding captions.. comments.. shares.. contests

34 min – may be catching fire… but dowsed with gasoline beforehand.. barnes – nytimes – yeah – nothing is left to chance.. totally timed out.. the goal is to create a brush fire... every bit of it is being manipulated… studios worry that once you realize there’s a man behind the screen – it’ll be over

38 min – base shows (music video) in afternoon – on convos on twitter… 

kids come up with content… then help to promote it back to themselves… and selling stuff for companies all along… 

companies hoping for brand loyalty

41 min – my plan for the future is world domination.. but by my own rules

selling out isn’t selling out anymore if you get the gold ring

42 min – not sure young people even know what selling out means

so not so good if we keep focusing on consumerism.. money as success..

has tyler won the game of likes..? is this it? can kids really win when they don’t make the rules

teens are creating this.. and there’s this giant underclass that like like like

44 min – founder of kiip – turn every moment into your life into a gaming opportunity – rewards from corps.. no mention of ads… we say – rewards… serendipity by design… becoming mast manipulators of games themselves

46 min – to get sponsors – you have to get people to like you..

but ultimately kids are out there alone

49 min – the whole world can watch as your numbers rise or fall

mom saying of her daughter – if i have a full body picture.. she gets more likes… 

bad – selling out authenticity to gain a like/attachment.. empty success ness.. whether with money or not..

but it’s cool the way it’s helping people to become expert at something they love.. 53:47 ness

can kids really win when they don’t make the rules – douglas

getting likes does feel good – at least in the moment – douglas

post on Douglas’s site:

likes on rushkoff site


spring 2015:

This is media studies for Occupiers.


via thought maybe site – digital nation – (2010, 1:21:34):

3 min – Sherry Turkle – been teaching at mit for 30 yrs – pressure on teaching – coming up with things that will distract them (kids) from the web

4 min – not that they’re dumb.. they’re just not paying attention.. they’re drinking the kool aid..

or – perhaps – they can now see beyond the classroom

6 min – Clifford Nass at stanford – mri’s studying multi tasking… in general the brain can’t do 2 things at once..  so experimented with youth that seemed to be doing 5-6 things at once… testing how fast they can switch between tasks w/o losing focus… found that even though they think they are good – they are slower, disorganized

wrong question.. no?

9 min – Turkle – the point is to be our best creative selves… not to distract ourselves… at the end of the day – after multi tasking – i feel i haven’t thought deeply about anything

10 min – Douglas – maybe we’re changing what it means to be a human being – when using all this stuff

how a young person chooses to use their time.. will have an effect on their brain

11 min – brain on google – Gary Small

12 min – bigger is not necessarily better.. looking at brain scans.. this was a call for reach research – Douglas

13 min – research can’t keep up with it, ie: getting grants/permission to do research..

14 min – on addiction


s korea – legendary internet cafes – kids sometimes stay overnight to play games… better than doing homework… a few people have actually died in these cafes…

again – an addiction

but because we’re realizing how empty, ie: compulsory school is, no? it’s not the net.. it’s the absence of that first 7 hrs of the day.. filled with supposed to‘s – so this is escapism..

created a society johann

18 min – mom wishing games didn’t exist… i think if i can’t control my son right now.. i’m losing him..

so what are the kids thinking… what do they wish didn’t exist…

so kid sent to a camp – internet addiction

20 min – treatment seemed like it was meant to capture a childhood lost to the computer

oh my. how about childhood lost to school. computer was just an escape.. can’t we listen to that…?

21 min – Douglas talking his book cyberia – when he was convinced web could help us change in good ways… i felt like i was in on a secret… over the past 20 years… the net has changed from what it does.. to being on it all the time

korean govt -taking a stand – elementary – taught to use computer right away – but also how to use them in a healthy way

24 min – watching my kids.. how did they figure this out..?

26 min – Steven Maher – teacher using tech – helped me see my kids might need a diff ed than me

Jason Levy – principal – took over school in 2004 – vision – have all kids with laptops..  tech is like oxygen… violence down, attendance up… scores up

something is working here… but is there a catch to this..

30 min – oppenheimer – author – the flickering mind – my concern is their short attention spans

sometimes.. teacher bores us – so we go online – monitor kids on laptop

wait – no question about that..? turning into different humans? oh my.

32 min – but what about kids at mit and experiments at stanford… is there a pt of diminishing return

student: if there were 47 hrs in a day i’d read hamlet – but there’s not

33 min – book – the dumbest generation – mark bauerline – we want them to grow up and blow us away – with literacies, reading/writing skills, knowledge about history/art, their civic activity.. but we just don’t see it..

raised eyebrow..

he claims writing skills are suffering too..

while our skills of surveillance are getting better. ha.

Nass – changes of way kids write… less of a notion of big idea carried through..

unless they’re approaching the limit of life.. that most of us don’t get. 24/7 ness. and we can’t keep them in our box.. so we’re calling them dumb…. calling it bad… dangerous. (while yes.. it’s dangerous that we have this tech/net but still forced to live in boxes – science of people in schools ness)

35 min – so of course kids are agreeing.. they know they have to … still in the box

36 min – Marc Prensky – confusing best/old ways to do things once with best ways doing things forever… it’s not that they shouldn’t express (verbs) the nouns they use (essay, ) that’s what changes … i don’t know that the book is the best way in the 21st cent

37 min – when print came into being – one thing we lost was memory – is it a loss? sure. but that’s the price of gain.. Jim Gee

38 min – Henry Jenkins… when asked – do you struggle with distraction – i don’t know anyone on the planet who doesn’t struggle with distraction – but this is not a new issue… we are seeing a period of evolution.. and we’re better as a society if we’re open to this as an exploration

39 min – stories gathering on frontline digital nation site

40 min – great story… 83 yr old lady and grandson have hit cooking show – i have to say that the internet added years to bubby’s life

42 min – there’s something missing that they have to pour their heart out to me..

2 needs

43 min – world of warcraft… getting you into the screen

44 min – Katie Salen – elements of games… this immersive world.. have a hard problem to work on – and other people to work on it with

46 min – game conferences – have desire to connect.. meet face to face..

48 min – avg amount of time people play wofw – 10 hrs a week.. but many play more than that

on addicted:

escapism ruins oases arendt

49 min – tech (games) not isolating – but giving people a new way to be intimate

Philip Rosedale – creator of second life – to Philip – not a game – but a new reality

53 min – solving alienation tech has helped to create – with more technology

mechanism as placebo… has to be created that way.. can’t be dependent on it.. if freedom is our mission

55 min – ibm using it – to save money on travel meetings..

57 min – yeah – i still don’t get that

59 min – studying effects on brain with virtual vs real

1:01 – making Doug 10 inches taller – made his success of a deal better… then carried over into face to face (even though not 10 in taller)

swimming with whales experiment – the virtually swim with whales then later believe they really did

1:02 – working on stress in fighters, overtime – they are able to tone down their own levels of anxiety and stress

tech is rapped up in the story of war – military has been a driver for tech – also creates new dilemmas

ie: wage a war when one side is in real life and the other isn’t, ie: drones – war flight suits to remind themselves they’re fighting a real war

drones – precise – with no cost to american lives – pentagon is clamoring for more

1:05 – Noah Shachtman – wired editor – different attitude… when you’re dealing out risk but not accepting it – they do take a lot of care of civilian casualties.. but there’s no way of knowing..

1:10 – disconnect of being at war and at home…

1:11 – close recruiting centers – and opened army experience center


we have what young americans want and what they like.. recruiters know if they don’t (oblige) they’re not going to have the army men they’ll need for the next century.


1:13 – i came – played – and decided i had to do something more than the came – so i signed up and left w/in a couple weeks.

1:14 – i think most kids are smart enough to understand – diff between reality and game – in regard to war

but – earlier – kids are dumb..

1:15 – Katie – kids have the ability to move between digital and real – quest2learn – using gaming for entire curriculum. games get us an incredibly engaging learning experience…. if you can’t engage that kid in wanting to learn… you’ve got a real problem on your hand

1:17 – schools are one of the places in our society where you can have a convo without being distracted by machines.. we have to protect that – Oppenheimer – the flickering mind

? – has he been in school?

1:17 – maybe there’s something these kids are getting that we haven’t learned how to value yet

and that we won’t ever if we don’t free them… from the escapism et al aspect..

1:18 – Turkle – tech challenges us to figure out our values.. that’s hard to do.. it’d going to take time

1:19 – Doug – tech to find other people, to remake the world in their own terms…

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wished i would have seen this before contactcon.. maybe..



mar 2015 with Jason Silva:

Jason Silva and Douglas Rushkoff | Creative Session

4 min – adjacent possible no longer connected to the real… but rather.. let’s build this platform – the eyes of the prize is kind of counter balanced – when it’s not explored in the present – D

rather than app to transform the world – app to raise stocks – J

or even build second life instead of this life – D

6 min – i say humans matter because i’m on team human – D

7 min – problem with constructivism is that it’s great to plan.. but hard to remember that we have to keep testing it with reality – … as long as that dream/trip is brought back into reality – rather than a way to get out of reality.. – D

escapism ruins oases arendt

drug induced high or tech high – our desire to chase these states… to hack perception – don’t you think that’s an amazing opportunity to play.. J

sure.. but … while we’re chasing our highs… we’re supporting a tech structure that we’re not in control of.. – D

12 min – for me the best part of the trip is coming down.. waking up in the morning.. ie: now what.. (from all that)  – D

after the trip – a reset of the self – J

groundhog day ness

the beauty of the coming down is you see the structures at face value.. – and can question that – D

when i came down – oh… we can do it this way – rather than build on structures that we had before. there are plenty of people to get you high as long as you don’t come down to question (paraphrase) – D

systemic ness – fractal ness

16 min – lower entry – but less who have made it than before – because they’re not selling the music – selling attention rather than music – D

18 min – awe – antidote to intellectual dispair –  all these takeaways after blowing your own mind – more alturistic/compassionate/etc  – J

20 min – i think D is talking placebo ness here

22 min – i’ve always envied people (like my mother) who find awe in everything.. then there’s those of us who have to induce it.. – J

23 min – awe videos as self-medication  – J

24 min – the trick is to help people understand this isn’t reality but metaphorical ways of understanding reality.. we are like computers… memes are like genes… they’re just prone to the sort of m meade, g bateson abstracted understanding of reality as this kind of participatory mediated spectacle..

how can we upgrade our operating systems.. -J

the digital thing is so key.. the opposite of global/google.. for me digital is always the digits – local means of production… the whole local.. burning man, occupy, .. occupying reality… – D

27 min – you don’t have mental references for what you’re seeing.. so experience changes – subjectivity is transformed – on burning man – J

28 min – a p to p bizarre appeared – after the breaking of the piñata – with 8 yr old girls – D

how do you define creativity… what happens to brain.. J

29 min – when humans do what only humans can do.. the expression of the paradox.. the weirdness.. the ambiguity.. – D

liminality – the inbetweeness – J

33 min – can’t write a book that never ends..?

34 min – i think there’s something going on here that we don’t yet know about (not just complexity) – D – what if they’re wrong (big bang et al) –  if we don’t understand the very basic building blocks of reality – i’m concerned about ditching reality for another one…

disneyland is like if the nazi’s had won and they weren’t evil.. but that’s not real – D

37 mi – it won’t matter if they’re real when you’re done – because when it’s over it will be real – J

i like it – i just don’t like it more than what i got. – D – you got to ask – what’s the purpose

38 min – the purpose is catharsis – J – spaces where we sort shit out

the world of the self can be a lonely place.. the reason we do inner work is so we can go out and engage with people. the practical concerns are so real – D

the practical concerns are being addressed…  – J

oh my.

40 min – i just want to make sure we don’t use these medicines.. the same way we use prosac – D

41 min – right now – my frame of mind is just my disappointment in bitcoin

43 mi n- q&a

44 min – maybe we’ll find out we’re not that unpredictable – J

45 min – i’m going to behave as if this is real (that perception matters and we have free will) – and as if they are the ones who haven’t figured things out – D

50 min – q: how can we afford the opportunity

a: i was lucky… i made 8-10000 yr and i was fine with that.. coming out as a slacker.. my idea was to not have to work.. that’s why i hear obama and jobs are artifacts of renaissance..  lentils and rice.. you can live a long time on that.. you can survive.. i did that for a good long time. i tutored kids on sat’s in beverly hills mansions.. i was lucky. i’m a child of privilege – i had a long way to go down.. even though my friends saw me as the poor kid. and then – not getting off the bus.. i’ve not worked for others. – D

55 min – for me i like steven johnson’s the world has a lot of clues and you can read your way through it. my parent’s encouraged me to find my bliss. george carlin – psycho cybernetics.. brain a goal seeking mechanism.. you can teach your brain what to look for. 1. notice what moves you. 2. write it down. 3. look at notes later. primes your brain to see serendipitous connections.. hacking your brain to pay attention. that’s kind of like what i’ve done. you have those patterns marked in  your head. – J

1:00 having a kid – the slow of evolution have been staring me in the face all the time – oh my gosh those aboriginal people who we didn’t think knew much actually have what we need. – D

1:03 – you get your seat the table and you then are propaganda ist rather than journalist – so now what – D

a nother way. that.

1:06 – 95% of communication is non verbal – so what happens when you just text – D

i see – but – that is in a way biased to the communication style we are comfortable with.. maybe we’ll transcend words – J

science of people in schools ness. no words ness.

face to face time should be face to face time.. -D

1:12 – q: wants there take on a systemic change in ed.. but then uses siloed success markers.. like graduating

a: education is due for a massive upgrade.. how we teach how we learn.. intro’ing crazy psycho tropes into the classroom – J – i was in montessori – big fan of sir ken – my mom also taught in the broncs.. so throw away what’s not working .. et al

so dang – why in the classroom? have you not experienced that in one of your trips..? what good is the high then. dang.

a: after my decade of awe – i said i’m going to the darkest places.. and test my awe – so i went to s africa.. et al .. to challenge and earn my awe by going dark. the only good trip is a bad trip. get as lost as i can and then come back. ed is one of those places. use digital tech to make them better in this (consumer) system. or we can say – use tech to ask – what’s education for.. right now.. what it’s for.. to create workers for factories..  now what is it for… depends on what we think the future of the economy is. if we think people only need to work 10% of the time… so then – ed is to embue people with critical thinking.. maybe ed is to develop people who will create the next ed system. – D

again – dang – why school? – why not just live the 10% time now.. or whatever. why aren’t we questioning school..


psfk may 2015

our app is playing us, ie: ted camera in the room more important than people in the room

we can not scale… this is us..

not about marrying your ideas to the existing market place… it’s challenging the market place itself..


nov 2015 – platform coop

if he spoke i missed it…

here it is:

trevor – now what – 1\ create a foundation that would bring together open source programmers to work on a kernel for labour platforms.. one project applied to apis with various purposes.. 2\ continue to work with civic hall and nurture this movement

nathan – 1\ federation linking disparate efforts.. starting on wed trying to think of how to create a platform coop ecosystem there.. in boulder..

3 min – doug starts

if i can just articulate for you.. to take back for arguments.. next book: throwing rocks at google bus.. coming out soon………. but i know the people on the bus.. ie: hg’s daughter…  i was trying to figure out who we were supposed to be mad at..  each one of these people didn’t mean to be doing harm… who is the enemy.. but it was rather humanity itself against an operating system that’s gone out of control.. against an economy that’s optimized for growth and then put on a digital platform

10 min – internet became poster child for long bomb…

evan williams .. 4.3 billion – represented the failure… name on 50 bill of debt.. no longer kid who provided us with tool to connect… but kid rewarded for bringing freakishly large thing to the faire.. now twitter is an abject failure by wallstreet..

that’s a problem.. not of the application.. but the requirement of the economy to grow..

.. this is a bankrupt model.. it doesn’t work…

14 min – it’s amplifying the features of this economic model – disaster exponentiated…

15 min – 1st main value of industrial age: remove humans from the equation

after crusades we had a beginning of a p2p econ… local currencies.. began to trade local.. days work went down.. great for everyone except aristocracy… so they sought growth for self..

16 min – mechanisms: corporatism and central currency designed to stamp out the p2 econ.. to slow transactions between people and get them paying up..

small business made illegal – ish… problem … independent shoemaker had to go get a job… instead of me creating shoes and selling them.. i had to go sell my time..

18 min – do i want to hire expensive highly skilled craftsman to make shoes.. or cheap/unskilled labor…  industrial process mass production alienated worker from what they were creating

19 min – i wasn’t buying from friends anymore (from mass production)  .. so had to invent mass marketing… then had to invent mass media…

20 min – problem w/currency.. nobody was making money on it. it was just a utility.. so operating system where have to pay back more than you got.. so …. had to have an economy that grows…

2 main biases… corp/currency – remove humans… digital.. brings them back

21 min – but what was dominate form…? continue de humanization of the market place..

22 min – person creating value replace by corporatism… winner takes all stakes of self-re enforcing leader boards.. an econ that really values tech for it’s ability to extract from econ.. rather than ability to relate w/each other…

23 min – on google hiring ray kurzweil.. who believes humans are only important for bringing on singularity…

humans.. we are now the content.. the data.. the medium… as you use the smart phone it gets smarter… that’s what’s being extracted… our money not worth as much as our data

24 min – everything comes down to advertising and marketing…  if everything is supposed to be an ad…. who is left to advertise.. a snake that eats its tail…  it worked in some sense right up until ww2…  when eisenhower said.. we’re going to need another way to make this work.. tech..   tech will increase the surface area on human beings….and create a new territory.. human attention

25 min – walmart – a conqueror of territory… modern equiv of walmart – amazon and uber..  in order for them to work have to achieve absolute monopoly (now use platform/tech to enforce monopoly.. rather than law) … in order to hop over to another vertical.. ie: from books to whatever…

27 min – these guys say.. i’d love to switch but my shareholders are demanding growth….  same w/kids.. they leave college at soph’s and replace great leftist teachers with rightest vc’s as new mentors… they learn to pivot.. leaving thing you were going to help people and turning into a disposable company that gets an ipo and an exit.. not creative destruction.. destructive destruction.. go and destroy a marketplace..

28 min – these same techs could be use to disrupt those bad guys.. for their own good

central currency is the embedded operating system

30 min – corps are converting land and labor into capital… digital co’s are really just software created to do that…

what’s the alternative… instead of optimizing econ for growth…. optimize the economy for humans..

jobs jobs jobs…

who really wants a job…

food, shelter, sense of meaning…

a job is an artifact of a renaissance era scheme to prevent us from creating and exchanging value among ourselves..

we don’t want that..

we have to create a completely unnecessary industry… in order for you to have a job….

if there’s enough food to go around.. why not let people eat it.. if enough shelter to go around.. why not let people live in it..

stop looking at jobs.. stuff is way more important than jobs..

jon stewart mill – econ reached carrying capacity.. so then steady state econ… and start looking at circulation… ie: people don’t grow forever… ecosystem… these are not ecosystems because they destroy…

35 min – move from growth to flow… optimize velocity of currency


36 min – bitcoin – no longer requiring a central authority/bank… bank wasn’t there to authenticate but to extract… but have to ask when look at bitcoin.. what are they programming for… i keep hearing.. bitcoin substitutes for trust

38 min – in the end.. what we really have to reprogram is our social expectations of each other.. everyone wants to lend but not receive… we don’t like community obligation ness…


39 min – i want you all to pitch up some experiments … hybrid solutions… p2p…. what a bank could do to participate like-giving ness .. what walmart could do.. giving up one shelf..

? – why not as irrelevant.. ?

a nother way – for (blank)’s sake

41 min – or bounded investing.. invest retirement money in projects that would hire steal workers.. and then actually live in them… teaching companies how to earn the same dollar five times..

teach start ups to take less money.. the less money you take.. less you have to take back

and of course.. moving from platform monopolies to platform coops… those on it own it.. so that facilitating exchange rather than extracting exchange

43 min – what if we are living in a full on renaissance…  i believe we are..

what are our equiv’s: perspective vs hologram/fractal; circumnavigating globe vs took a pic and got climate; printing press vs computer/net; closing commons vs retrieving commons…

re birth old forms in a new context.. retrieves values that repressed last time out: p2p, community, land… for what? for empire..

we rebirth p2p culture… ie: burning man; etsy; as if retrieving medieval culture..

people that talk most coherently about this… catholics… distributism… distribute means of production to the people… subsidiarism.. businesses only grow as big as need to…. these values couldn’t be realized until we had a digital distributive econ

the sustainable creative capacity of digital distributism… the factors of production have always been land, labour, capital.. now … we reward capital.. but not land and labour.. our opportunity is to retrieve land and labour… money is not the only factor of production…

48 min – the beauty of coming together .. in the real world.. human beings have the home field advantage.. we don’t have that online…


opportunity as humans.. is to reboot econ itself for distributed prosperity.. one can do that one business.. one person at a time..


49 min – astra – notes on her page

then q&a back notes back on platform coop page

from q&a

rushkoff os law

my strategy has been to expose the underlying operating system….  the underlying assumptions have to be opened up… this is there by design not by nature…

io dance ness

radical econ et al

douglas: people need to experience the benefit of mutual aid… it’s got to be built into the micromoments/decisions you make everyday

rev of everyday life ness




to 2016 edge question:

Media Analyst; Documentary Writer; Author, Present Shock
To be sure, science has brought some of this on itself, by refusing to admit the possibility of any essence to existence, and by too often aligning with corporate efforts to profit off discoveries with little concern for their long-term impact on human well-being.
We have evolved into the closest things to gods this world has ever known, yet a majority of us have yet to acknowledge the actual processes that got us to this point.
..if these abilities are seized upon as something other than the fruits of science, and if they are applied with utter disregard to the scientific context through which they were developed, I fear we will lack the humility required to employ them responsibly.
jan 2016 – the future of work:
Although it may still sound like heresy today, Wiener realized that if we didn’t change the underlying operating system of our economy—the very nature and structure of employment and compensation—our technologies may not serve our economic prosperity as positively as we might hope.

But as the peasants got wealthy exchanging goods and services, the aristocracy got relatively poorer. So they re-established control over the economy by outlawing market moneys and chartering monopolies with dominion over particular industries. So now, instead of making shoes himself, the local cobbler had to get a job at the officially chartered monopoly company. Thus what we think of as “employment” was born—less an opportunity than a restriction on creating value.

Instead of selling his shoes, the cobbler sold his hours—a form of indenture previously known only to slaves. Worse, his skills were not valued.


But today, growth has become an end in itself—the engine of the economy—and humans have come to be understood as impediments to its functioning. If only people and our idiosyncratic demands could be eliminated, business would be free to reduce costs, increase consumption, extract more value, and grow.


We must remember that employment may really just be an artifact of an old system—the reactionary move of a bunch of nobles who were afraid for people to create value for themselves.

Once we’re no longer conflating the idea of “work” with that of “employment,” we are free to create value in ways unrecognized by the current growth-based market economy.


Oh look @rushkoff is being awesome again.

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In the Throes of Change: An Interview With Douglas Rushkoff…

it’s the same old economy on digital steroids.


So the problem is that everyone is keen on creating new operating systems for one thing or another, but no one is questioning the bigger operating system on which all of this is occurring: capitalism.


My whole point is that the new renaissance is not a period of growth. We transcend the whole idea of growth (grow what? the economy? at whose expense? the planet’s?). And instead, we learn how to prosper in a more circulatory, “steady state” economy.


A renaissance means old, repressed ideas being reborn (re-naissance) in a new context. ……….. Today’s renaissance would retrieve the medieval values (not the lifestyle!) that were stamped out by the renaissance: crafts, peer-to-peer trading at the market, local value creation…even craft beers! Really, it’s no coincidence that the cultural expressions of the digital age – like Burning Man and etsy – share so many medieval qualities.


rocks at google bus interview.. feb 2016 – vision for a new, better world

In his new work he argues that, appearances to the contrary, today’s online colossi—think Facebook, Google, Apple, and the like—haven’t truly revolutionized our economy. Instead, they’ve reproduced the Industrial Age corporation at a global scale, with all the benefits of digital innovation. At heart, though, they’re still designed to extract value and to pursue growth above all else.


Digital technology was supposed to distribute this wealth to more people, not impoverish the many for the wealth of a few.


requirement for companies to grow really traces all the way back to the institution of interest-bearing currency, which requires that the economy grow in order for that interest to be paid back.

Today, the equivalent of those bankers are shareholders. They expect not just interest, but tremendous returns on their initial investments.


The CEOs of these companies read my articles about getting out of the growth trap, and they call me begging for the way out.


I do believe that networking technologies could enable much more distributed prosperity. The digital economy, so far, is just corporate industrialism on steroids: extract value from people and places. Digital companies are like software programmed to take currency out of circulation, and deliver it up to shareholders. They could just as easily—more easily, in fact—be optimized to promote the circulation of currency. Most simply stated, less like Amazon, more like eBay. It’s as simple as letting Uber drivers have shares in the company, proportionate to the amount of work they’ve done. And that would be pretty easy to calculate and authenticate with something like a blockchain. Networking technologies are biased toward more distributed solutions. That’s what they were originally built for.

? so operating system is still based on money..? still based on calculating/measuring transactions..?

imagining blockchain,wwwio,… beyond that.

Every town whose economy has been trashed by a corporation is another community about to learn that the only things you need for a thriving economy are people with skills and people with needs.

The moment we stop optimizing the digital economy for the growth of capital, and optimize it for the circulation of value between people, everything will start to get better really fast.


let’s do thisfirstfree art-ists.

for (blank)’s sake


mar 2016 – why to rethink purpose of our econ

Media theorist Douglas Rushkoff’s new book offers insight into ‘digital industrialism,’ how humans have become invisible, and why the US needs to re-evaluate the goals of its current economic model.


“We have lost track of the purpose of our economy,” Rushkoff wrote.

According to Rushkoff, our never-ending appetite for economic “growth” has become unsustainable—and, a misguided end goal. Rushkoff sees us living in a period of “digital industrialism,” marked by a “disproportionate relationship between capital and value.” Web-based companies are creating platforms, but not necessarily value—at least, a value that can keep up with the venture capital backing they’ve received.


As a result, businesses are increasingly trying to monetize “likes” and big data, making people the end product, rather than creating value that consumers can use. The payoff comes not through a sustainable income, but when the platform is sold to a big spender—when Huffington Post was sold to AOL, for instance—creating artificial bubbles.


Rushkoff traces the current values of digital industrialism to an age where monarchs began shutting down bazaars, which had originated as places for townspeople to trade goods and crafts in a peer-to-peer networking fashion. Fearing that the lower classes would gain power, the aristocracy regained control. All along, the working class has been stripped of its power to create, which extended to the industrial age where workers became shuffled into factories, performing low-skill labor.


“This income disparity is not a fact of nature or an accident of capitalism,” he wrote, “but part of its central code,” he wrote.


“Joblessness may be a feature, not bug, of new economy,” he wrote.

graeber jobless law

Ironically, Rushkoff sees web-based peer-to-peer sharing platforms like Uber and Airbnb has eventually eliminating the human element. ….”Peer-to-peer is not a means of including people, but a prelude to getting rid of them,” Rushkoff wrote.


What he would like to see happen? “I think, rather than a simple revolution, we get a renaissance. A genuine rebirth of repressed ideas and mechanisms,” Rushkoff said.


“It’s different than a second machine age. It’s people getting their hands back into things and starting to value the human contribution over the mechanical contributions to things.”



Three experimental systems for making money about trust, not wealth…

reimagining money

Bitcoin was conceived as a modern solution to an ages-old problem: How can two parties agree on and verify an exchange of value?….But in important ways, Bitcoin transposes some of the shortcomings of traditional currency onto the digital realm. It ignores a whole host of questions about the potential to reimagine what money can be designed to emphasize: …… can money be less an extractor of value and more a utility for its exchange?


1\local currencies, .. Massachusetts BerkShare…The 5-percent local discount may seem like a huge disadvantage to take on—but only if businesses think of themselves as competing individuals. In the long term, the discount is more than compensated for by the fact that BerkShares can circulate only locally.

2\cooperative community currencies don’t need to be pegged to the dollar at all. …They are not purchased into existence but are worked into circulation. They are best thought of less like money than like exchanges,.. simplest form of cooperative currency is a favor bank, such as those founded in Greece and other parts of southern Europe during the Euro crisis..had no cash with which to trade. So they built simple, secure trading websites—mini-eBays—where people offered their goods and services to others in return for the goods and services they needed…“time dollars,” a currency system that keeps track of how many hours people contribute to one another. (larger communities) Again, a simple exchange is set up on a website, where people list what they need and what they can contribute. The bigger and more anonymous a community, the more security and verification is required… e Japanese recession gave rise to one of the most successful time exchanges yet, called Fureai Kippu, or “Caring Relationship Tickets.” People no longer had enough cash to pay for their parents’ or grandparents’ health-care services—but because they had moved far away from home to find jobs, they couldn’t take care of their relatives themselves either. The Fureai Kippu exchange gave people the ability to bank hours of eldercare by taking care of old people in their communities, which they could then spend to get care for their own relatives far away.

3\traditional bank becomes a community partner, helping a local region invest in itself. …. bank transforms itself from an agent of debt to a catalyst for distribution and circulation. Like money in a digital age, it becomes less a thing of value in itself than a way of fostering the value creation and exchange of others.

back to tweet – can money (measurement of transaction).. be about trust..? seems too calculated for what i think trust wants to be..



Talking #ThrowingRocks at @Codecademy with

How Growth Became The Enemy of Prosperity. (video) –

digital age doesn’t just push us into some crazy future.. but retrieves some really old/lost/precious values from the past.. not just little cultural whims.. but hints of society unfolding before us.. dig society actually looks like something very local/real/hands on



My @CivicHall@BookTV talk on #ThrowingRocks now online:…

on surrendering disruptions..

5 min – govt can change nature of regulations.. – right now it favors the largest…

11 min – huge focus on companies..

20 min – human scaled economies are local..

21 min – activity supports each other in community

22 min – the attention getting media.. we currently employ.. are not best for telling (local) stories

23 min – i’m actually becoming ok with global media being disconnected freak show.. if i a have a real life of actual connections w/other people

24 min – big picture – we’re reasserting the human agenda.. get people to join team human…

a nother way

nationality: human

29 min – if you have people with needs and people with skills.. that’s all you need for an economy

31 min – not an app to fix this.. (interviewer – ie: loomio not that complicated.. it’s about the people coming together and working on the al)

simple enough

the way in which we make decisions is going to be more algorithmic..

? – redefine decision making

not a matter of better encryption .. but of better listening…

self talk as data

32 min – on getting people together… and how to fund twitter.. could go private..

or… get rid of money

c (dot) app story

find the others.. meet up – get people connecting in real places off line

find tribe ness

34 min – tech should get us together and get out of the way..

app chip ness – as the day

io dance ness

36 min – make more choices on a local scale…. some things industrial good at – power plants.. but not so much farming.. get back to permaculture

perhaps.. – same with power plant ness..

38 min – winco – a walmart coop

44 min – if it has a growth imperative.. then hasn’t found right size/model yet

46 min – say what you want about net neutrality.. it’s already gone… you’ve got to talk to the humans.. your community… i wouldn’t call it an affinity group.. it’s got to be so targeted/tagged/specific… address a need not being met.. then people will come

49 min – global space.. more idea based than commerce based.. easier to disseminate an idea/plans to a lot of diff places…

51 min – by getting govt off (web)… opened up for corp.. and they took over.. now when we say global.. so many think we mean global markets…  that was just imperialism by another name… internet still a global network and has potential to disseminate ideas..

53 min – that’s the one thing we humans have.. a home field advantage on planet earth…


Douglas Rushkoff in conversation with Institute for the Future’s Marina Gorbis

Original Tweet:

interview with Marina Gorbis:

3 min – the people building digital tools/companies.. didn’t recognize they were working on top of another os – corp capitalism

8 min – on pivot ness.. ie: amazon not interested in people reading.. but using that as a place you can pivot from…

11 min – on forcing twitter to pivot…. to become like ie: facebook…

so not allowed to distribute wealth.. not allowed… in old corp system..

15 min – money is just another medium… an os

22 min – digital tech is burning out corporatism..

23 min – blockchain and bitcoin.. original fb brothers.. go other way…

bitcoin – what are they solving for… they weren’t solving for right problem.. it’s not engendering trust between people.. it’s substituting for trust in a new way.. the part that gets interesting is the blockchain – let’s people authenticate w/o central authority.. we use a public ledger

? – isn’t that substituting for trust in another way? – but not trusting..

bitcoin by just being able to do that .. puts traditional authenticators and gate keepers on notice.. that we can do it w/o them

don’t have to use a blockchain to make sure platform is going to extract too much… but the fact that we can do it restores faith in what we can do….. on saying – there’s all these things we can do that aren’t being counted…

– i’m more interested in getting things off the books than on…

B ness (computer too slow to add lines… just now… another reason for chip doing it)

everything is so verified.. we lose the ambiguity to get on… we can no longer create slack.. that wiggle room that makes for a community and makes for fun.. we mistake those metrics for what’s actually happening...

29 min – jobs: making stuff that nobody even wants…. purpose of having a job – not in order to get stuff done that we need.. it’s so we can justify letting you partake of spoils of industrial capitalism

rushkoff job law

purpose of job rushkoff.png

30 min – the market place isn’t something you gamify.. it’s already gamified.. it’s a game .. and we can change the rules…

31 min – platform coops give me hope.. like uber getting to own the platform

32 min – on having to do the meta thing.. don’t scale.. scale is the obligation of growth based.. instead .. you want to sustain

34 min – what gives me hope – people doing small things.. set sights on something different.. gotten off the fame wagon… invest the homefield advantage of planet earth

42 min –  no one size fits all solution.. you come up for the particular solution for your space…

indeed.. so design os for that.. wwwio,..

44 min – locally doesn’t happen at scale… it works because you are part of the living community together…

45 min – do i understand that my phone is using 2 refrigerator’s worth of electricity.. on all the servers and things i’m pulling on… yet designed to look super clean…. land, labor, and capital.. and now os that’s only focus on capital… we have to re incorporate land and labor..

46 min – college has the same role as art.. to help you step out of the cultural narrative.. and see it as a social construction rather than as a condition of nature… ie: race, gender, ethnicity, econ, …

47 min – you don’t train kids for jobs… you train them to invent.. who wants a job anyway…

b  ness

48 min – we should figure out a way to get through this world w/o needing a job..

indeed: a nother way

49 min – everyone of our social platforms is currently configured to reduce human spontaneity… they make more money the more predictable we are.. 

but more predictable.. the less human ambiguity we need to think our way out of this drone/lemming like march off the cliff..

idio jargon ness

51 min – if giving 90% of money back.. means took too much to being with

54 min – i only want to use platforms that i understand.. otherwise probably being used.. ie: that i understand who the customer is

55 min – i have no time for this.. i have to earn money to live on

57 min – digital is to talk to people far away.. then get back in the world… if you’re hiding online… use that time to make the world a better place.. so don’t need that..

and/or – selves that are far away…  because of 2 needs/desires… then.. ie: self-talk as data – as the day

58 min – trump has exposed market driven journalism…

1:02 – thinking is no longer singular.. really no point in lying because they know it subconsciously.. if everybody knows … how would you act differently.. there’s nothing to hide.. no shame… what if move toward.. non personal.. non owned… we are all neurons in a big global brain.. what if we thought that was true.... for me it’s a relief….

less important fixed cure

1:04 – what corporatism thrives on is the illusion of your individuality.. your separate ness..

interconnectedness – ni – rewire – small world network – et al

which was invented in the renaissance.. the gentlemen sitting alone in his room… if we begin to unwind that and say…

if everybody knows where we’re at.. what can we do next… well what we don’t know.. is what we can do together….

in all my years of striving what i’ve learned is.. to stop striving.. 

the last thing i want to do is actualize myself… (maslow) – get self out of way and start looking at human potential as a team sport…

fav one yet… grazie


on big think

on history: bazaar.. small businesses… then make laws 1\ can’t be a small business.. have to work for king  2\ can’t transact direct.. have to borrow money – so… need for growth… to pay back interest…

internet currency .. was our attention..

pivot is not to do something better, all a pivot means is you’re going to abandon what your original business was in order to come up with something that’s sellable to the next round of investors, the next round of suckers really.


IFTF: Douglas Rushkoff joins IFTF as Research Fellow via @sharethis

Original Tweet:

oh. please be bold enough to go crazy enough.


personal democracy 2016


we all mean well – i’m not critical of intentions.. – @rushkoff #PDF16

os beneath the os of tech’s we’re all using is corp capitalism – to externalize costs to other people. our money system is extractive

if capital is only one that gets to talk .. what happens to land.. labor.. we just digitized corp program.. and now we’re saying.. let’s get govt on their too..

what does it mean if all those guys in suits are clapping for you.. a forced pivot is coming

problem w this arrangement.. it forces companies to extract value rather than circulate..

don’t think people really see tech as hero.. people are literally throwing rocks.. because can’t live in towns anymore

we have a tax policy that is optimized for extractive value not the distributive value

we want to retrieve p2p culture… common culture.. w/o human intervention and focus on solidarity.. we let the tools run the world for us.

platforms are optimized for attention.. sensationalism.. filter bubbles.. the externalization of those i don’t want to see.

whole point of democracy is not externalizing anything … but opposite embedded in tools we’re using..

john barlow – declaration of independence of cyber space.. anti govt.. get off our internet.. i understand why he did that.. what happens when you get govt off platform.. we got corporatism.. so we lost the net..

i understand.. we went from open web to kind of closed fb.. and skewed search results.. but do we really want to fight about that… the web was supposed to make the world more open.. now we’re fighting to make web more open..

blockchain doesn’t engender trust.. it perpetuates mistrust baked into system run by cap

solidarity happens in the real world.. the way we get there is how we get there

rev of everyday life

here in real world is only place we humans have home field advantage.. to accommodate to digital

democracy is a verb.. what we do..

we shouldn’t end.. period is going out of style.. the good: this ending is not the period.. unlike tech we humans are alive



The new nationalism of Brexit and Trump is a symptom of the digital age:… by @rushkoff via @FastCoExist

when we combine these two biases—boundaries and memories—we get Brexiters justifying isolation as a confirmation of distinctly British values and the return to a nationalist era, when foreigners and other non-whites knew their place. Trump’s followers, likewise, recall a clearly redlined past when being white and American meant enjoying a safe neighborhood, a sense of superiority, and guaranteed place in the middle class. Immigrants were fellow Irish and Italians—not foreigners, refugees, or terrorists leaking illegally across permeable national boundaries.

two things that could make us… but as pointed our here.. can also break us..

memex ness and binary ness

host life bits to live alive.. not to binary-ize

In some sense, those of us who want to preserve the one-world vision of the TV media environment are the ones who must stop looking back. If we’re going to promote connection, tolerance, and progressive internationalism, we’ll have to do it in a way that’s more consonant with the digital media environment in which we are actually living.

rev of everyday life ness


team human


Secret beta-soft-launch of my new podcast, #TeamHuman, now up at teamhuman.fmOur last best hope for peeps.



New post at “Team Human: Our Last Best Hope for Peeps”…

It’s time we forge the solidarity we need to press for the human agenda – without shame or embarrassment.


Céline (@krustelkram) tweeted at 5:49 AM – 27 Sep 2016 :

Great interview. @rushkoff about zombies, occupy and the problem with UBI

And I’m still working on this problem, since I believe that food, housing, and medical care are basic human rights for which you shouldn’t need a job, but I don’t like how guaranteed minimum income becomes an excuse for more exploitation of those at the bottom, and a new two-tiered society.

yes.. bi could jump start us.. but we have to plan for it to disappear.. plan for money.. any measuring of transactions to disappear.. like you say.. we can’t have money as os..


The other thing I’ve been thinking, almost musing on, is that originally the net was where we counterculture people went find a safe haven. And now that the net is utterly infected by corporate interests, we find refuge out here in the real world. The losers are running around online for fear of missing out, and all their getting is the honor of being data-raped. Those of us in the real world are having flesh experiences as well as high bandwidth intellectual encounters that make anything online pale by comparison. That’s part of why I’m conducting most of my interviews for Team Human in real life.

and too. we have to plan for f to f ness.. ie: use mech (placebo ish.. temporary.. like bi) that encourages us to get back together.


I wanted to do something completely devoid of market considerations—….That means adopting a more natural rhythm, producing episodes as we want to rather than to meet some official schedule, and just not worrying about how this fits into some business plan.

Really, I’ve learned that the market as it’s currently configured, and human life, are at odds. Without intervention, the market will kill humanity.

a nother way.. for (blank)’s sake

from video

9 min – the object of the game is not to have an object of the game.. not to win but to develop a sustainable model..

the minute you put on t shirt .. no longer real

cohesion w/o centrality.. w/o succumbing to that desperate need to belong

occupations are little models for us.. ie: occupy town means figuring out how your town can create value

a net style movement..  p2p.. ability to tolerate not having an ending.. but a series of connections.. beginnings..

rev of everyday lifeinstigating utopia.. everyday..


in David Passiak‘s empower:

p 210


p 215

dp: Why in a sea of seemingly infinite choices do people overwhelmingly choose the same thing? How does so much freedom lead to a shocking amount of conformity?

DR: The main reason is that Internet platforms have self-reinforcing loops, so if something makes it to a top ten list on iTunes or top 100 list, those are the only things that many users see. The algorithms are not con gured to maximize the distribution of the long tail amongst as many players as possible. They’re optimized to create self- reinforcing loops that maximize the numbers of sales.

rather.. we haven’t disengaged from money ness.. so we still have B and b and competition and… consuming our energies.. so again.. most of us are not us… not living eudaimonia.. because instead.. we’re living too much ness

p 216

*People tend to flock. They aggregate around things. If you’re out on the Internet, then you’re basically alone. The only way to forge connections with other people is through af nity, which is not the same thing as community. Af nity is just “Do we like the same stuff?” **Af nities create self-reinforcing loops. “Oh, she likes Taylor Swift. I like Taylor Swift.” Then, you’re going to buy Taylor Swif

*are we sure..? or is this just more sci of people research claiming/assuming they do.. ie: study showing sheep don’t flock if feel secure..

**not if free to change mind everyday..

p 217

Your Google search results are different from my Google search results. That’s because neither you nor I are paying Google for that. Who is paying Google for that? The people who want to in uence our search results.

yet another case to disengage from measuring.. money.. et al

p 221

Blockchain is interesting for global-sized collaborative enterprises and giant projects where people don’t trust each other.

or actually.. for ginorm/small projects where trust is a given.. aka: unconditional..

people might turn to a blockchain because they no longer trust the authority to authenticate what’s going on between them. But to be clear, there is a premise of distrust to begin with here.

exactly.. very much like a cancer.. & why partial doesn’t work

p 222

dp: How do we stay hopeful and persevere to get the well-being and security that we all deserve?

DR: I think we need to accept that there is no free lunch and the easiest way to make money is to earn it.

oh my.. i guess misunderstood his money as os ness

Most people look at their jobs and investments as if the object of the game is to make enough money so that you don’t have to work anymore. What I’m trying to convince especially developers and entrepreneurs is that *it’s OK and noble to work for a living.

but not to have to earn a living.. huge diff in doing/giving/being your art.. and earning a living..


on london real – with Brian


all we have is attention


as if efficiency really is the goal.. if we really want efficiency.. just get rid of the humans all together..


i think the turning point is redefining econ system.. ie: twitter as successful

present shock.. constant now now now .. and you feel that you need to catch up

drone pilot more ptsd – because breaking up into pieces.. and parallel processing.. that’s a computer thing.. people can’t do that..

1\ living in a sense of perpetual emergency interruption.. so do tech in your own time

2\ go out side enough to at least look at the moon

i don’t think there’s any effort by western nations to stop this (terrorism).. the allegiances are too strange.. deals w govts et al.. i don’t think we’re genuinely focused on that problem

12 yr old – have skin in game.. and became harder for me to make money w/o selling out… so i do yoga as my practice..

advice to 20 yr old: there’s nothing to work towards.. it’s happening right now.. we live in such a carrot and stick society.. it’s right now.. your integrity is in the moment.. there’s infinity in the moment if you can embrace this as that instead of a step..

supposed to ness


mar 2018 interview

Human imagination derives from something other than repeated experience..t

imagination ness

That real creativity, and real imagination, provides less answers than it provokes questions.  It initiates a process that most people today can’t tolerate because they want conclusion.  They want answers.  They want endings.  Imagination doesn’t do that.  Imagination opens things.  It creates questions.  Imagination is not death.  It’s life.  Most people don’t like life.  They want the security of death.

because they/we’re intoxicated.. not natural.. not really us.. ie: black science of people/whales law


Cool new interview with me by musician James Toth:

Original Tweet:

art is about creating questions.. opening up the gaps and ambiguities

i think the coherence you long for is less a matter of denying yourself the digital than it is one of enhancing the lived, analog, person-to-person aspects of life.. t.. the screen has less power if you’ve just had a great orgasm, looking into your lover’s eyes.. focus on the physical, the breathing together, the solidarity, the bodies in space.


advisor to econ space w : VinayBenDouglasEskoMarinaBrett, ..


via joi

Joi Ito (@Joi) tweeted at 1:03 PM on Fri, Jul 06, 2018:
“Survival of the Richest” – classic @rushkoff – ties into a lot of my recent thinking – good reading

This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader?

they were preparing for a digital future that had a whole lot less to do with making the world a better place than it did with transcending the human condition altogether and insulating themselves from a very real and present danger of climate change, rising sea levels, mass migrations, global pandemics, nativist panic, and resource depletion. For them, the future of technology is really about just one thing: escape..t

As technology philosophers have been pointing out for years, now, the transhumanist vision too easily reduces all of reality to data, concluding that “humans are nothing but information-processing objects.”..t

rowson mechanical law

The future became less a thing we create through our present-day choices or hopes for humankind than a predestined scenario we bet on with our venture capital but arrive at passively.

This freed everyone from the moral implications of their activities.

Digital platforms have turned an already exploitative and extractive marketplace (think Walmart) into an even more dehumanizing successor (think Amazon).

Ultimately, according to the technosolutionist orthodoxy, the human future climaxes by uploading our consciousness to a computer or, perhaps better, accepting that technology itself is our evolutionary successor.

The mental gymnastics required for such a profound role reversal between humans and machines all depend on the underlying assumption that humans suck. Let’s either change them or get away from them, forever.

rather.. set us all free.. and assume good

 the result will be less a continuation of the human diaspora than a lifeboat for the elite.

when the hedge funders asked me the best way to maintain authority over their security forces after “the event,” I suggested that their best bet would be to treat those people really well, right now..t

gershenfeld sel

All this technological wizardry could be applied toward less romantic but entirely more collective interests right now..t

as it could be.. ie: 2 convos as infra

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

 For all their wealth and power, they don’t believe they can affect the future. They are simply accepting the darkest of all scenarios and then bringing whatever money and technology they can employ to insulate themselves — especially if they can’t get a seat on the rocket to Mars.

Luckily, those of us without the funding to consider disowning our own humanity have much better options available to us..the truly evolved human doesn’t go it alone.



“Humanity is not the problem, humanity is the solution!” @rushkoff #FutureFest18 

Original Tweet:

humanity as in free humans

do this first: free art\ists

meadows undisturbed ecosystem

‘Don’t escape the future, jump in! First step to occupy the future is to find the others’ @rushkoff

#TeamHuman #FutureFest18 @futurefest

Original Tweet:

2 convos as infra

(finds via daily cure ios city)


Nonprofit Quarterly (@npquarterly) tweeted at 10:03 AM on Tue, Jul 10, 2018:
“If efficiency requires us to send slaves into caves to extract metals and create toxic waste that destroys the planet…then maybe we should be less efficient.” @rushkoff

So, today we live in an economy where we understand that to have a successful business you need to borrow money from someone and then pay them back bigger returns.

Thus, what I’m suggesting to large corporations is that they change their business model—that instead of thinking about how much of the world they can own, instead they look at what services they can provide people and organizations and companies and towns and cities.

Bitcoin basically burns fossil fuels as proof that it has value, and that’s all bitcoin is doing. So, not only do we have an energy shortage on the planet, now we also burn energy symbolically as a way of showing our commitment to some kind of digital coin.

No one likes hearing this, but nonprofits have to stop thinking of themselves as some adjunct to the market—as something other than business. Nonprofits are businesses. Nonprofits are a better model for doing business than for-profit companies. The only difference between a nonprofit company and a for-profit company is that a nonprofit company can’t be sold.

Right now, we have an economy that punishes doing business in an appropriate, generative way, and rewards people who just take money out of the system.

I think of human beings the same way—that we’re all part of this large team, this human organism. And even if we’re not part of one organism, we’d better start acting like we’re part of one organism, because we’re sharing a scarce resource of planetary abundance. So,

if we don’t orient to the planet as a commons rather than a property, then we’re going to continue to exploit it at our peril rather than maintain it for our collective benefit..t

ch 6 – assembly.. on property ness

When you understand platform cooperatives…well, UBI is kind of silly. You shouldn’t give people only income; you’ve got to give people ownership..t

ownership silly as well.. if common ing

we are working in ways that are unsustainable, anyway. If the way we’re using labor requires us to send slaves into caves to get the rare earth metals for our smartphones—and if the way we manufacture is destroying the planet, is creating so much toxic waste and mountains of used-up technology that’s being buried in China and South America, and that’s going to destroy everything—if that’s what we have to externalize to be this efficient, then we should be less efficient.

kelly efficiency law


via michel fb share

so people, whenever I use the word ‘blockchain’, please substitute ‘distributed ledger’, i.e. open and shared accounting of what we do together.

Ferananda Ibarra puts it beautifully in the following quote:

“{When I talk about the blockchain, I think about the Wright brothers inventing the airplane and they did notinvent a faster plane. They just invented the plane. They didn’t consider the need for airports and all the infrastructure that came after. We can think about the blockchain as something that has showed us there’s a possibility for humanity and decentralization that we haven’t seen before. It’s an innovation, but it’s not the faster plane and it’s not the best plane. Bitcoin is in the same category. In the case of Holochain and Holo, a global consensus doesn’t make sense because nature does not work that way. As an example of this, we can see that cells carry their own instruction set – their DNA – inside. They don’t need a record of every state of every type of cell on what it is that they’re doing. Thatis not needed. It’s extra complexity, in the same way that speakers of a language can carry the means to generate sentences, but they do not have every sentence that has been spoken in some way or another somewhere. It’s not the way that nature works and that’s why, in my opinion, blockchain can’t work.”

Transcript of panel discussion hosted by the Digital Life Collective, 17 May 2018

douglas: My current work is so based on restoring face to face, local contact and activity that I’m looking for how the blockchain can assist that..t..  and whether it function in ways where it is not obligated to go to scale as Silicon Valley seems to demand.

let’s try hosting 2 convos to connect us locally.. everyday.. via curiosity

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

as it could be..

Philip: I won’t add much to the conversation about consensus protocols other than to share some of the sentiment around the fact that mother nature never needed global consensus for anything, so I’m not sure why we think we might need it now

public consensus always oppresses someone(s)

still philip: The opportunity that I see in shared ledger technology is localizing, not necessarily localizing geographically, but localizing people to come together to cooperate

yeah.. 2 convos.. to connect us locally.. everyday.. via curiosity

douglas: We are as free of the underlying assumptions as we can make ourselves and that’s sort of the challenge. What can we recognize the artifacts informing our way of doing things and so free ourselves from them in order to build what we actually want to do rather than succumbing to some false historical legacy..t

black science of people/whales guiding us to as it could be..


fb share by michel (while reading city as commons .. p42: common money ends monetary poverty. this is an essential first step to addressing material poverty)

a bit idealistic about cities and in support of the Digital Towns initiative:

an economy should never suffer from lack of currency to enact exchanges

should never measure them either.. ie: marsh exchange law; 10 day cares; et al

whole 2 min video:


excited about digi town because they get that the easiest way for real people/places to fight back against the extractive power of long distance corp capitalism is to reclaim our local economies

and the best available amalgamation of people in one place is the city.. the city is the largest organic grouping of human beings.. t

in the city

as the day

unlike the abstract nation state that replaced it.. the city state was a natural economic organism.. bottom up.. p2p.. and bounded market why does bounded matter..? because that’s what keeps money flowing from person to person and business to business..t..  rather than up and out of the system altogether.. it’s better to earn 1 dollar 10 times than to earn 10 dollars once and then store it in inaccessible share price..

money/business is not natural/organic

that’s the real promise of a municipal marketplace and the real potential of blockchain.. not to create an excuse for another anonymous pyramid scheme.. but to foster friction less transactions between people w skills/stuff and people w needs/stuff..t

perhaps real potential is to augment interconnectedness.. sans money/measure

ie: cure ios city

an econ should never suffer for lack of currency to enact exchanges.. that’s just nuts..t

thinking we need currency/measure/exchange is what’s nuts.. and not natural

ie: marsh exchange law

common ing sans money/measure

the factors of production are land, labor, and capital.. t


norton productivity law

hardt/negri property law

but right now only capital has a seat at the table.. digi town means to restore the role of people and places in creating a functioning econ.. and doing it before there are no more people or places left to participate


Patrick Farnsworth (@LastBornPodcast) tweeted at 11:30 AM – 14 Aug 2018 :
⁦@Rushkoff⁩ discusses ‘Whistleblowing, Assange, & The End Of Democracy’ ⁦@wikileaks⁩ (

now i think he’s (assange) more of a political operative than an info giver..

the transparency of internet is slowing eroding the back room politics.. and maybe the left wing democracy.. whether or not democracy works.. was it a failed experiment


letter to google employees

douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 7:29 AM on Fri, Aug 17, 2018:
I just published “Dear Google Employees”

Congratulations on your letter questioning the morality and impact of the censored search engine you were building for China. You are courageously leveraging your power as developers to insist on participating in decisions about how that power is deployed. You are the human beings who have intervened in the machine.


ou also requested employee participation in ethical reviews of company decisions, and a group of representatives to make ethical assessments of controversial projects.

I believe at least some of those representatives should come from outside the company, and I humbly offer to serve.


But, as you have said, you need evaluators with expertise in crucial sectors of human activity impacted by your work.


In addition to myself, I’d suggest Dan Gillmor for his knowledge of the relationship of technology to journalism and free speech; Tim Wu, for his understanding of the attention economy; Astra Taylor, for the relationship of platforms to art production and debt; Larry Lessig for questions of IP and the law; Alicia Garza for her expertise in social justice and activism; Tristan Harris, for the impact of software on behavior and cognition; Marina Gorbis to look at economic inequality; Palak Shah and Trebor Scholz to represent digital labor; Richard Maxwell for effects of technology on the environment, and so on.

astra.. larry.. alicia.. tristan.. marina.. trebor..

Such a committee of people who have been studying the impact of digital technology on essential human rights can use their understanding of larger systems to help you apply your work in ways consistent with your values.


IFTF (@iftf) tweeted at 3:28 PM – 27 Sep 2018 :
“We have to stop optimizing humans for the market, and start optimizing technology for humans” @rushkoff at #TYF18 #teamhuman (

imagining tech as it could be.. ie: listening to and facilitating 7bn curiosities.. everyday

IFTF (@iftf) tweeted at 3:28 PM – 27 Sep 2018 :
“We stopped valuing human beings for their creativity, and only valuing their data.” @rushkoff at #TYF18 #teamhuman (

imagining self-talk as data via cure ios city


douglas on (against) ubi and for asset ness

douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 9:05 AM on Wed, Oct 10, 2018:
I used to be a fan of Universal Basic Income. Then, I gave a talk at Uber.

Shouldn’t we applaud the developers at Uber — as well as other prominent Silicon Valley titans like Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes, bond investor Bill Gross, and Y Combinator’s Sam Altman — for coming to their senses and proposing we provide money for the masses to spend? Maybe not. Because to them, UBI is really just a way for them to keep doing business as usual..t

When people eventually become too poor to continue working as drivers or paying for rides, UBI supplies the required cash infusion for the business to keep operating. t

exactly.. 1\ it feeds the system but also 2\ it (the measuring ness of it) compromises the human spirit

To the rescue comes UBI. The policy was once thought of as a way of taking extreme poverty off the table. In this new incarnation, however, it merely serves as a way to keep the wealthiest people (and their loyal vassals, the software developers) entrenched at the very top of the economic operating system. Because of course, the cash doled out to citizens by the government will inevitably flow to them.

Meanwhile, UBI also obviates the need for people to consider true alternatives to living lives as passive consumers. *Solutions like platform cooperativesalternative currenciesfavor banks, or employee-owned businesses, which actually threaten the status quo under which extractive monopolies have thrived, will seem unnecessary. Why bother signing up for the revolution if our bellies are full? Or just full enough?

i would say.. those aren’t *solutions.. not deep enough.. they too perpetuate the status quo.. of us measuring each other.. measuring transactions.. that’s poison to the soul

No, income is nothing but a booby prize. If we’re going to get a handout, we should demand not an allowance but assets. That’s right: *an ownership stake.

no no no.. *ownership is poison to the soul as well

h&n property law..

The wealth gap in the United States has less to do with the difference between people’s salaries than their assets.

doesn’t matter.. both are unhealthy

No amount of short-term entitlements substitute for real assets because *once the money is spent, it’s gone — straight to the very people who already enjoy an excessive asset advantage.

what we want to go after is eudaimoniative surplus.. refilling our missing pieces/holes

*assets can be gone just as easy – we need to go after something that doesn’t burn out..but rather something that makes us come alive.. and keeps us alive..  ie: cure ios city..  because what the world needs most to get there.. is the energy of 7bn alive people

Likewise, if Silicon Valley’s UBI fans really wanted to repair the economic operating system, they should be looking not to universal basic income but universal basic assets, first proposed by Institute for the Future’s Marina Gorbis. As she points out, *in Denmark — where people have public access to a great portion of the nation’s resources .t— a person born into a poor family is just as likely to end up as wealthy as peers born into a wealthier household.

i’d go for universal basic *access.. not assets.. the ownership piece is killer.. huge diff

link to marina’s uba:

In designing Universal Basic Assets we take into account access to traditional physical and financial assets like land and money, as well as the growing pools of digital assets (data, digital currencies, reputations, etc.). We also recognize and assign value to exchanges we engage in as a part of maintaining the social fabric of our society but that do not currently carry with them monetary value (caring, creative output, knowledge generation, etc.).

digital currencies.. reputations.. value exchanges.. anything that is measuring us.. and our transactions.. all killers..

(ubi) It’s hush money.

Whether its proponents are cynical or simply naive, UBI is not the patch we need. A weekly handout doesn’t promote economic equality — much less empowerment. The only meaningful change we can make to the economic operating system is to *distribute ownership, control, and governance of the real world to the people who live in it.

rather..  just *distribute haves/needs.. (no measuring.. just listening).. which will be greatly reduced once all 7bn+ people are doing the thing they can’t not do.. holes filled..

ubi as temp placebo.. but just so that people don’t think about money/measuring for long enough for it to become irrelevant


mostly on voting

Imran Ali (@imran) tweeted at 4:05 AM – 6 Nov 2018 :
“My friend… when will you be ready to accept that the experiment of democracy has been proven a failure?” @rushkoff (

do we have to accept the sad premise that people are just too dumb, too uninformed, and too easily fooled to vote intelligently or even rationally?

rather.. to think that voting is our only option.. or that it is even humane

Lippmann wrote a book, Public Opinion, in which he reluctantly concluded that the masses *(that’s all of us) were indeed incapable of understanding what was going in the world, much less making intelligent decisions on our own behalf

that’s just it.. it’s not *all of us
ie: public consensus always oppresses someone
We, the people, can’t be truly entrusted with evaluating or actually deciding anything consequential.
another..that’s just it.. the decisions democracy (whatever you call society today) not focusing on decisions that are essential/consequential.. rather.. offering spinach or rock.. finite set of choices
It’s not about finding out how we feel, but getting us to feel the way that serves our best interests—as determined by our benevolent leaders.
this is true.. but most of us have been so voluntarily complianced (manufactured by unconsent)..we have no idea how we feel.. only perhpas how whales in sea world feel
Here’s a radical idea: What if Democrats acted, instead, as if they actually believed in democracy: the ability of American citizens to understand issues and make choices informed by logic..t
the issue is.. who’s deciding the issues.. it should be all of us.. everyday via ie: cure ios city.. because what we keep spending most of our time/energy/focus/attention on today.. are not essential (essence of) to humanity.. but rather on some finite set of choices
What if they stated what they believe in, policy-wise—made their case—and counted on the process to work..t
what if they (has to be all of us) started w curiosity.. every need to waste time making cases.. and counted on our interconnectedness to dance in sync
But real democracy demands an informed electorate..t
humanity begs trust (100% or it’s not trust) that each person is enough as is.. no info/training needed .. just time and space ie: rat park.. meadows undisturbed ecosystem .
This midterm election, we still have a chance to remember what it is we’re doing this for. What this is really about. Our role in this process and whether we are up for the challenge
so.. ie: two native americans to congress.. now what..? how much time/energy did they have to spend and will they ongoingly have to spend hoop jumping..
if that weren’t true.. we wouldn’t be in te situation we are now.. ineq.. home less..overdose..suicide
the only way we can effectively defend ourselves against the folks on both sides who would underestimate our intelligence, our competence, and our collective will is to vote.
that’s not even a way today.. (certainly voting is not the only way., dang).. when we have the means to listen to every voice.. everyday.. curiosity vs decisions about spinach or rock (limited options)


dang.. team human live w pesce..  missing it guys


interview on team human book.. douglas rushkoff with sam harris

douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 11:23 AM on Thu, Jan 17, 2019:
I got on the @SamHarrisOrg podcast! What a treat. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. He’s super patient and gently challenging. Makes me want to meditate more.

So glad my first big interview about my new bookwas with the brilliant @SamHarrisOrgHe very quickly honed in on the real opponent of TeamHuman: digital capitalism.

Original Tweet:

3 min – d: i guess what i do is argue from human agency in the digital age

4 min – d: tools i thought were going to be a gateway to collective human imagination ended up being opposite.. haven’t been not struggling against tech so much but to retrieve the human

6 min – d: there’s certain things i’m unresolved.. challenged by

8 min – d: what i’m looking for are essential human values for people to value for its own sake.. w/o.. some other story

9 min – s: language is source of everything we do as human.. this compulsive conceptionalizing thru language.. is in most cases.. the limiting factor on our well being.. yet can’t have civilization w/p full linguistic competence.. just mere intro of print was bemoaned by many as way to lose our memory


15 min – d: orgs that are doing it.. mozilla,, wikipedia, .. but they’re not co’s.. only co’s i’ve seen doing that are co-ops..

23 min – on podcasts or talks that you do for free getting more reach than books.. expecting info to be free.. on netflix as paywalls..


25 min – s: we have trained ourselves to expect things for free.. and yet the only free model is this insidious ad model.. this is this problem we want to solve..

money less ness

27 min – d: internet really was intended to be a commons.. then business came on


29 min – s: avg prof writer is living below poverty line.. have to have other jobs.. not an optimal world to live in.. esp when throw in journalism

34 min – s: we know we want smart people to be compensated to really explore/vet topics.. question is how do we get there

we do..? smart people..? i think we want/need.. that to be everyone.. so again.. common\ing sans money

35 min – d: journalists paid enough are paid to not challenge ie: capitalism

36 min – s: people want what they want no matter how valid.. it’s just a fact.. so can’t monetize if people don’t care.. have to figure out how to make them care.. it’s a fool’s errand to figure out how to get them to take their medicine.. (rather than feeding living off tittlating ness)

problem is most of us are not us.. have to wake us up first.. begs a mech that has a detox embed

d: they don’t want to see the thing that makes them think.. but i think deep down people do want that..

of course.. we have to work off that.. rather than how we are acting in our current intoxicated state.. like whales in sea world

40 min – d: i don’t think that’s what people really want so much as that’s what we’re being trained this need to give people the conclusion.. in some ways most dangerous aspect of this culture we’re in

41 min – d: human beings have capital r reasons for doing things.. some essential value.. that’s the real thing i’m in now

almaas holes law.. 2 needs

43 min – d: i decided i’ll be on team human.. i’ll make a bet that there’s something important here.. w/o that as a starting place i find it hard to make any of the arguments we’re making.. t.. seems i have to hold up a value that needs to be recognized

mufleh humanity law

nationality: human

spot on man.. ok..

45 min – d: we augment ourselves at the peril of over simplification

begs we realize that the ai humanity needs..augmenting interconnectedness

46 min – d: the things we can’t record digitally .. don’t make it to the next level of simulation… just gets left behind.. never quite inbetween.. missing something.. whatever it is they don’t know how to measure gets left behind

begs we realize that the ai humanity needs..augmenting interconnectedness

stop measuring

48 min – d: sometimes i wonder if i’m the ape that’s saying i don’t want to learn to speak.. no.. i don’t believe most people developing techs are doing it w my best interest at heart.. they’re led by business plans.. i have a real intuition that what we need as a civilization is not more abstraction..

50 min – d: i feel that w/o a whole lot more media literacy and awareness we can’t go there.. we need to take a moments pause and learn how to be together again in pairs/groups before we venture out

2 convers as infra

s: ie – this convo we are having could be better f to f.. but.. i could also see it worse if we were f to f.. because things i would see wouldn’t translate in the podcast.. so audio makes our recording an advantage.. because i know what i’m getting and what listener will hear..  ie to do video rather than audio.. but there is something more intimate about audio than video..

52 min – d: mcluhan would say radio is hot medium and tv is cool medium.. ie: we’re not creating a .. you had to be there.. experience.. they’re getting what we’re getting

54 min – d: studies saying .. can’t really establish report when using something like skype.. then.. leave convo feeling things that you don’t blame tech for (ie: they agreed when they didn’t) but you blame the other person..  most popular thing going on now is radio

56 min – d: people trading w each other.. to promote transactions in market place..  so made all that illegal and established monopolies (via bureaucracy/laws).. if there was an ownership model.. may not just be a matter of extraction

rather.. a non ownership.. non measuring model..

1:03 – d: thinking that having the right math is going to lead to greater equality.. doesn’t work as a universal framework for human beings.. we’re going to miss those immeasurable places that we touch.. and there’s no word for..t

of math and men

1:06 – d: to clone fb is trivial.. just let someone user owned co-op do it.. then don’t need to grow/scale .. businesses need to keep growing.. there is nothing in nature that grows exponentially.. growth is always by destroying something and it’s always temporary

1:09 – d: i’m surprised that all these educated people can’t realize the os this is based on

rushkoff os law

1:10 – d: the problem is our monetary system.. being interest based.. demands growth

1:11 – d: it’s the public ness and the policy ness..  one tools would be to reverse that tax tool..

1:12 – s: the more you look.. incentives are everything

and if incentives are there.. a sign we’re doing it wrong

1:15 – d: i’m not so worried about right as an individual as right to assembly.. if i can’t get together w others.. infringement on my right as invidual

rights ness.. and need both – 2 needs

1:17 – d: i feel individualism has reached its end point.. became isolated individuals who connect thru products.. but.. one of most enlightened entities of individualism is being able to connect w others..

missing piece #2

1:19 – d: i feel like what happened to net and burning man are same.. but i think that urge is there.. ie: all these co working spaces..  see it in burning man, occupy, rave,..

1:21 – d: on this urge to commune

s: i haven’t thought of a way to use digi tech to amplify live events.. people really do want to get in the same room together.. but there’s something alienating going to live events with thousands of people and there being no context to ever meeting anyone new.. you just show up and then leave..  to have your private response to what you experienced

1:22 – s: i feel like there’s some bright idea that’s *not been had.. with **how to make live events of the future more connecting for people..t

rather *not been heard.. which is why a mech to listen to all the voices is so important

and as for how to make live events more connecting: **2 convers as infra

d: it’s part of what i feel like i’m doing now.. i’m finding more meaning in smaller events.. i feel ok i’m going to engage in a bigger bandwidth w fewer people and see what that’s like

yeah.. smaller.. but everyday.. by choice.. by cure ios city

1:26 – s: feel like it’s person vs free self.. if can get from podcast/ted-talk.. why buy book.. save a lot of time.. don’t have to get book

again.. we have to let go of money.. regardless.. the measuring ness is killing us.. but also.. of the idea that we have to read/write books.. back to doug’s thinking he’s written enough – 20 books.. so now he doesn’t have to go so big anymore.. can be ie: human..

we don’t have to give each other messages.. we just need time and space for gathering that matter to us

1:27 – d: when in front of people for book talk.. i feel ideas were so important to me.. i want to tell them all.. am i on the show to sell a book or ?

s: want to reach all people possible w best ideas.. but have to make a living

no .. we really don’t.. ie: earn a living ness..

1:31 – d: i still read 90% physical books.. i feel more oriented.. remember where things are on the page.. i like the movement.. to be anywhere w it.. i still don’t know what’s better/worse for environ

1:32 – d: do you think what i’m talking about is real/myth.. that there is some emergent meaning of the human project..?..t

human is a key area.. but matters little if miss our true essence..

deep enough to resonate with all of us

s: i think there are levels to it that are independently true.. as some level we are social primates.. that have been adapted to have our intrinsic value system played to our connections to others.. easy to see that comes at a cost

maté trump law

1:34 – s: for most of us having good relationships.. spending time w friends and getting our of virtual spaces.. i think you’re totally right about that.. every trend that’s taken us in other directions is worth worrying about

1:37 – d: traffic apps substitutes for your map/understanding of where you are..  it’s going to send you into neighborhoods people making/paying for app want you to go to.. not just a map of territory but a pay to play map of membership

1:38 – s: i was thinking.. once you get people paying attention to traffic signs.. changes traffic

begs naked streets ness..


Book of the Day: Team Human

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on hold.. but ugh after pesce episode.. and perhaps up again after harris podcast

team human book


douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 7:32 AM on Sat, Jan 19, 2019:
One of the main premises of my new book TeamHuman, now excerpted on @Medium, is that nature is a collaborative act – not a free market competition:

Prosocial behaviors such as simple imitation — what’s known as mimesis — make people feel more accepted and included, which sustains a group’s cohesion over time. In one experiment, people who were subtly imitated by a group produced less stress hormone than those who were not imitated. Our bodies are adapted to seek and enjoy being mimicked. When human beings are engaged in mimesis, they learn from one another and advance their community’s skill set.

? not sure mimesis is the ideal..

Multiple nervous systems sync and respond together, as if they were one thing. We long for such consonance, as well as the happy hormones and neural regulation that come with it. It’s why our kids want to sleep with us — their nervous systems learn how to sleep and wake by mirroring ours

yeah.. i see that more as being in sync to an undisturbed ecosystem .. more a  resonance (the quality in a sound of being deep, full, and reverberating..the reinforcement or prolongation of sound by reflection from a surface or by the synchronous vibration of a neighboring object.) than a consonance (agreement or compatibility between opinions or actions..a combination of notes which are in harmony with each other due to the relationship between their frequencies).. just thinking more along the lines of a dance of individuals that makes that resonation ringing of being in sync.. than a dance in order to become more a like

It’s why television comedies have laugh tracks — so that we are *coaxed to imitate the laughter of an audience of peers watching along. We naturally **try to resonate with the brain state of the crowd

yeah.. whichever word you use.. i’m thinking it’s less about being *coaxed or even **trying to sync.. it’s just listening for and being in a free enough space to hear what is already there

 Our survivability increased as we learned how to orchestrate simple divisions of labor, and trusted one another enough to carry them out.

hmm.. i don’t know.. thinking of the bit in David’s what makes civilization where they divided up the household work.. and that limited them.. and the work/art


5 min video on big think from jan 2019

Peter Vander Auwera (@petervan) tweeted at 6:12 AM – 19 Jan 2019 :
Why ‘upgrading’ humanity is a transhumanist myth @rushkoff (

i think we still know so little about what it means to be human.. we don’t know what the human brain is.. the source of consciousness.. where we come from.. yet we think we can make a simulation that’s as valid as this

every simulation we make misses something..t

simulation – imitation of a situation or process

see.. i think mimesis here and pheno geno gap (as cancer) growing bigger and badder

life is scary.. and i can understand having a sim city perfection and not have to worry about all that stuff i don’t know.. where everything is discrete.. a yes/no.. this/that.. all the choices have been made.. there’s a certain attractiveness to that.. but that’s dead.. it’s not alive.. there’s no wonder/awe.. nothing strange/liminal/ambiguous about it..t

what we need more: the energy of 7bn alive people

we do those nasty things when we’re less than human.. when we can dehumanize others.. you can’t have slaves if you’re thinking of them as people.. you can only have slaves if you’re thinking of them as something other than people..t

hari rat park law

this desire to transcend the human.. i feel like it’s excusing a whole lot of behaviors/dehumanization.. it makes it easier to send kids into caves to get rare earth models for your phone.. to create toxic waste.. to think of the human timeline as having a beginning/middle/end .. because we’re going to transcend it.. and that’s a sick/western/neo-lib/growth-based/apocalyptic myth that could end our species.. but i would say to the detriment of our universe


post from dec 2018

Michel Bauwens (@mbauwens) tweeted at 6:04 AM – 6 Feb 2019 :
The Anti-Human Religion of Silicon Valley – Douglas Rushkoff – Medium

The idea that lit up the turned-on technoculture was that technology would be our evolutionary partner and successor — that humans are essentially computational, and computers could do computation better. Any ideas that could be construed to support this contention were embraced. And so Stanford professor René Girard — whose work had much broader concerns — was appreciated almost solely for his assertion that human beings are not original or creative but purely imitative creatures.

The anti-human agenda of technologists might not be so bad — or might never be fully realized — if it didn’t dovetail so neatly with the anti-human agenda of corporate capitalism. Each enables the other, reinforcing an abstract, growth-based scheme of infinite expansion — utterly incompatible with human life or the sustainability of our ecosystem.

We are not being beaten by machines, but by a league of tech billionaires who have been taught to believe that human beings are the problem and technology is the solution. We must become aware of their agenda and fight it if we are going to survive.


tedsalon sept 2018 – team human (more notes on team human podcast page)

Michel Bauwens (@mbauwens) tweeted at 5:05 AM – 6 Feb 2019 :
How to be “Team Human” in the digital future

we have to stop using tech to optimize human beings for the market. and start optimizing tech for the human future..t

and present

the ai humanity needs.. augmenting interconnectedness

build a world that we don’t feel the need to escape from..t

hari present in society law and hari rat park law


on team human (book) tour

RSA Events (@RSAEvents) tweeted at 5:41 AM on Thu, Feb 14, 2019:
Another day, another event! Excited to have Douglas Rushkoff joining us today to explore how to hold onto what makes us human in a world that represses our autonomy and means of connection. #RSAhuman @rushkoff
Tune in at 1pm!

15 min – rather than fighting the disease and even giving more weight/authority to that digital .. ‘ooh that digital monster.. let’s get offline’.. no let’s enhance our human resilience.. our own vitality .. our cultural immune response.. t

gershenfeld something else law

if there’s weaponized memes out there.. i don’t want my kid using a weaponized meme filter.. i want my kid being strong enough to not respond to the weaponized meme..t

via ie: cure ios city


Nikola Danaylov (@singularityblog) tweeted at 7:07 AM – 2 Mar 2019 :
Team Human and the Power of Story – (

1:013 – i don’t know if i like the idea of having our fate rest on who can tell the most compelling story.. if the person who tells best most compelling story wins the meme then we may be screwed because the fake stories are more compelling than the real ones.. at least to these trained brains


douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 6:24 AM on Tue, Mar 26, 2019:
Interesting. Maybe the way out of technology’s bad trip, is to push right through it:

carhart-harris entropy law

Human beings have become nothing more than data in flesh suits. That’s the gist ofTeam Human, the 2018 TED Talk from media theorist Douglas Rushkoff.

Smith and Montemayor are most interested in how to undo the damage done by smartphones and their apps.

damage is earlier/deeper.. from ie: supposed to’s\hard-won-order (carhart-harris entropy law).. of school/work

Rushkoff takes Timothy Leary’s analogy that “the PC is the LSD of the 1990s” andapplies it to the internet. It’s our lack of understanding of the psychedelic landscape – and how set and setting influences it – that is causing a mass bad trip, he says. For the cybernauts, it is imperative that we now find ways to use technology to flourish.

tech as it could be.. ie: listening to every voice.. every day via idio-jargon/self-talk as data

cure ios city.. w/2 convers as infra


George and Douglas/team human on virtual futures- march 2019 – 90 min:[]

Here’s the brilliant @GeorgeMonbiot engaging with me at the British Library last month, courtesy of @VirtualFutures

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35 min – g: most advanced at trying this.. participatory city @ParticipatoryC..t

everyone everyday

try 2 convers as infra

40 min – d: when we function as a team we’re real..t

ai humanity needs..augmenting interconnectedness

48 min – g: progress is progress to the cliff edge..t

norton productivity law

50 min – d: we don’t have communities so we’re depending on retirement plans to be the way we survive in our old age.. t

56 min – d: (monks) language itself is an operating system w biases.. it’s a drug..t

beyond words ness – idio-jargoned self-talk as data

58 min – g: restoration narrative: hero confronts and overthrows..

59 min – g: we use narrative to try to cut thru the noise of data.. the short cut we look for is the story.. because they make that sense of the world..

1:01 – g: it’s absolutely fundamental to tell a coherent story which explains the transition from one dispensation we live with in the moment and we hate toward dispensation we want to reach.. and it’s our failure to tell stories .. to tap into that narrative.. that traps us ..t

a nother way book

1:03 – g: preaching to the choir.. as if it’s a bad thing.. the way politics works is thru preaching to the choir.. to move on from dysfunctional state

1:14 – d: sm great connectors until they had to show proof of growth

1:24 – d: (on calling out kids for slacking off for climate change).. i wonder.. maybe they will leverage even that sentiment.. that they’ve slacked off..  .. what if we slacked off.. what if we decided that life was about leisure and not work.. even the idea of getting jobs for people is inane.. why are we getting more jobs for people anyway.. because we need more stuff.. no.. it’s so that we can justify letting people have the stuff.. maybe that might be the next.. what are we training for.. i don’t need your job..t

graeber job less law


douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 1:12 PM on Wed, Apr 17, 2019:
“The more people spend time with one another, the less stuff they buy.  A deep connection to other humans makes you an enemy of the marketplace.”

There’s no shortage of individuals and individual freedom.  In America, people are willing to sacrifice their well-being, social cohesion, stability and sustainability for the false notion of individual freedom.  But the truth is, there is no individual.  There’s no such thing.  It’s an utter fiction.  It was created in order to promote more consumption..t  The more people spend time with one another, the less stuff they buy.  A deep connection to other humans makes you an enemy of the marketplace.

identity ness

We have to spend time with each other that is not digital..t

2 convers as infra

You cannot evaluate engagement through metrics; you can only evaluate metrics through metrics.  Human beings are more complex..The only people who are going to put metrics on engagement are people who are leveraging engagement for something else.  They’re not really looking at engagement.  They’re looking at customer loyalty or the likelihood of spending money or longevity of interactive contact or something like that.  But that’s not engagement..t

If you work too hard at not playing the game, it could mean you’re almost playing the game again..tPunk is a good example of this.  Was punk anti-consumer fashion or was it just a different consumer fashion? To be a spoilsport, you have to refuse to acknowledge the rules of the game at all.  They don’t stay on the field and instead are looking for liminal spaces between one thing and another.  The liminal space is where there is value.

I am conscious of not making #TeamHuman into another “thing” to join.  I don’t want to burden the world with yet another organization.  I want to be egoless with #TeamHuman, so like pollen, it spreads on its own.  I want people to have the confidence they can reclaim this reality for themselves, as our society is collaborative, not competitive.


douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 6:20 PM on Thu, Dec 19, 2019:
Thanks! That’s probably the best way to describe what’s going on in my brain at any given moment…

like hearing McLuhan and Neil Postman having a chat


I’ll be damned if I’m going to let the television determine my relationship with this thing. We are not spectators of the COVID-19 show, but participants. This is a moment to leverage the very best of our emerging digital sensibilities and capabilities.
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Coronavirus Is Making Me Believe in the Power of the Internet Again

Of course one could argue that terrorizing Americans is the only way to get them to act. But that’s not what television’s sustained assault is conveying. Instead, it tells us we are in the midst of a slow-motion crash of unknown magnitude, and we must remain with our eyes glued to the screen if we wish to survive.

In neighborhoods around the country, people are creating Google Groups, WhatsApp lists, Facebook groups, and other simple ways to communicate with one another. Whether sharing testing data, medical information, food availability, or simply comforting one another, we are using the microlocal capacities of the internet to escape television’s competing “narratives” and take control of our own experience.

Schools are communicating directly with parents and students, using facts and transparency to combat fear and uncertainty. “A student lives in a home where relatives tested positive for COVID-19,” an email explained to residents in my town just last night. “Our students and parents can expect to hear directly from teachers by Tuesday about what teachers will be doing to ensure that there is a continuation of learning.”

that’s a crazy ie if you’re asking/wanting people to step up for change.. for humanity.. ie: assuming that learning won’t go on unless some adult is in control..  school ness is false narrative

This is the moment we need to leverage the very best of our emerging digital sensibilities and capabilities. The less we fixate on images designed to distract, hypnotize, or trigger us, the more we invite our agency to the fore.

This is how we, as a society, develop the cultural immune response required to face such a challenge together.


The sooner and more completely we restore the old economy, the faster we simply recreate the conditions that got us sick in the first place and rendered us incapable of mounting an effective response.

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Restoring the Economy Is the Last Thing We Should Want – 9 min read – The sooner we open up the economy, the faster we simply recreate what got us into this mess. It’s time for a radical shift.

In reality, the sooner and more completely we restore the old economy, the faster we simply recreate the conditions that got us sick in the first place and rendered us incapable of mounting an effective response. The economy we’re committed to restoring is no more the victim of the Covid-19 crisis than it is the cause.

The innovations we’re seeing emerge are digital in spirit, but local in their execution.

These alternative business models are proving themselves more resilient in good times and bad. From neighborhood barter and local and crypto currencies to distributed open source apps and the doughnut economic model now being implemented in Amsterdam, these are business practices that optimize not for the extraction of capital but for the velocity of money — like the circulation of blood through an organism. They will never have IPOs, but that’s because such businesses are not built to be sold; they’re built to serve their stakeholders in an ongoing way. These are the sorts of businesses we need to support, any way we can.

same song/cancer second verse

What, specifically, can we do to engender an economic environment that makes Main Street more prosperous instead of simply resurrecting the Dow Jones Industrial Average by any means necessary?

why does anybody have to be prosperous? why can’t we just focus on the energy of 8b alive people

We, the people, may struggle ourselves, but we’re in it together. The mantra for a post-Covid economy must be “make everyone rich.”


That’s the way an economy is supposed to work. Just like the circulatory system of a living being, the money needs to be kept moving.


let go man.. let’s try legit nature econ

The restoration of local, bottom-up production and commerce based in mutual prosperity is also a chance for Trump and Bernie supporters to realize they’re on the same side. Freed of top-down political ideologies and frameworks, we can get down to the actual work of growing food, patching roofs, healing wounds, and teaching arithmetic. Local resilience need not be left or right.

It’s just a way to return to health.

teaching arithmetic?

dang man.. you’re promoting what the premise of your article is against


douglas & jamie on team human


If we truly are on the brink of a jobless future, we should be celebrating our efficiency and discussing alternative strategies for distributing our surplus, from a global welfare program to universal basic income.
But we are nowhere close.
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but we could be (close).. we’re just not hearing those alternatives..

ones that also undo our hierarchical listening

reevaluate the whole premise of having jobs in the first place

ie: cure ios city

graeber job\less law

By hiring more people rather than machines, paying them livable wages, and operating with less immediate efficiency, companies could minimize the destruction they leave in their wake. Hiring 10 farmers or nurses may be more expensive in the short run than using one robotic tractor or caregiver, but it may just make life better and less costly for everyone over the long term.

so you are saying jobless.. but don’t really mean it..?

The jobless future is less a reality to strive toward than the fantasy of technology investors for whom humans of all kinds are merely the impediment to infinite scalability.

only as long as we keep holding onto the ‘whole premise of having jobs’

let go man

there’s a nother way

wish you could hear it