black science of people/whales law
collecting data on human learning based on children’s behavior in school is like collecting data on killer whales based on their behavior at Sea World.
from science of people in schools.. – Carol Black‘s..
..a thousand rivers:
what i’m referring to when i say whales (not us)
supposed to’s of school/work – telling people what to do
voluntary compliance .. manufacturing consent.. wilde not us law.. freedom.. spinach or rock.. simulated thinking.. johansson choice blindness law .. harney domination law.. et al
wrong data.. wrong fractal (adding page while reading Geoffrey West‘s scale)
– School is the advertising agency which makes you believe that you need the society as it is, said Ivan Illich in 1970.
david on science of people.. emma on sea world
perhaps a good ie from Erich Fromm‘s escape from freedom (at least one worthy of an incomplete/ongoing convo between c & i one deep weekend):
1 – freedom – a psychological problem?
(on diff between fromm and freud.. since fromm bases much on freud’s operation of unconscious forces in man’s character and their dependence on external influences): for freud, *the individual of his culture represented ‘man’ and those passions and anxieties that are characteristic for man in modern society were looked up on as external forces rooted in the biological constitution of man.. (ie: hostility..evil..) freud always consider the individual in his relations to others. these relations as freud sees them, however , are similar to the economic relations to others which are characteristic of the individual in **capitalist society. each person works for himself, individualistically, at his own risk, and not primarily in cooperation w others..
so.. the *ecosystem is disturbed by money/capitalism.. making the individual works/arts.. not for the good of the whole.. so freud concludes that individuals fundamentally/naturally.. doing their art.. is not going to benefit the whole.. (so.. basically saying.. no interconnectedness) which is like saying.. a great whale is fundamentally/naturally lazy.. just floating a round in one place all day.. dependent on others to feed it.. et al.. based on researching the great whale enclosed in a disturbed ecosystem.. ie: sea world…
but.. man needs others, as customers/employees/employers.. he must buy and sell , give and take.. the market.. regulates these relations.. so (according to freud) indiviudal is primalrity alone and self-sufficient, and then he enters into economic relations with others as amenas to aone end: to sell ant to buy
10 day care ness.. money/market is a disturbance to our ecosystem.. like sea world is to the great whale..
freud’s concept of human relations is essentially the same: the indivdual appears fully equipped with biologically given drives, which need to be satisfied (to buy/sell).. in order to satisfy them, the individual enters into relations w other ‘objects’..
people become objects to commodifty (buy/sell.. put a price on) in freud’s version of the roots of humanity
contrary to freud’s viewpoint, the analysis offered in this book is based on the assumption that the key problem of psychology is that of the specific kind of relatedness of the individual towards the world and not that of the *satisfaction or frustration of this or that institutional need per se; further more on the assumption that the relationship between man and society is into a static one..
so.. according to freud..*satisfaction comes from being able to price things/people.. and to buy and sell them.. imagine if we thought a whale’s true needs were that a man would come and drop some fish in for him to eat.. so.. thinking the whale needs the man.. to get food.. because he only floats around in a small space all day.. appearing lazy..
via douglas on this panel: https://diglife.com/decentralized-co-operation-at-scale/
We are as free of the underlying assumptions as we can make ourselves and that’s sort of the challenge. What can we recognize the artifacts informing our way of doing things and so free ourselves from them in order to build what we actually want to do rather than succumbing to some false historical legacy..t
black science of people/whales guiding us to as it could be.. ness
The New York Times (@nytimes) tweeted at 5:30 PM – 27 Jul 2018 :
Her dead calf resting on her nose, an orca whale has swum in mourning for more than 3 days in the Pacific Northwest.
“I think she’s just grieving, unwilling at this point to let the calf go, like, ‘Why, why, why?’ ” https://t.co/bUph1fiaR3 (http://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1022987612481638401?s=17)
NYT Opinion (@nytopinion) tweeted at 10:02 PM – 4 Aug 2018 :
The idea that J35, the orca that has been swimming through choppy seas with her dead calf for ten days, is grieving is not some sentimental projection. Science strongly backs it up, writes @caseymaui. https://t.co/jWNkL9XZ9L (http://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1025955170402947072?s=17)
via fb post from orca network on aug 11
We were very relieved to hear today that J35 Tahlequah has finally let go of her deceased calf, over 17 days and 1000 miles since the day the calf was born and died. Even better were the reports that she was swimming vigorously, looked to be in good health, and was surrounded by her family, especially her female kin. While tabling at the Stilliguamish Festival of the River today, nearly everyone who stopped to talk at our booth knew about J35 and/or J50, and many of them had new knowledge that the Southern Residents depended on salmon and are starving. They were eager to learn more, they now had a connection with these whales, and their concern ran deep. Whether or not it was J35’s intention to raise awareness and grab the attention of the world, her display of love and grief for her lost newborn has touched many of us deeply, and sparked an interest in new advocates who now know that orcas need salmon to survive, and that changes must be made before it is too late ~
UltimApe (@ultimape) tweeted at 2:30 AM – 26 Oct 2017 :
Whales are a proxy species for humans.
https://t.co/sR6Bkqx6vm https://t.co/0hDjV4lQK4 (http://twitter.com/ultimape/status/923466935706189824?s=17)
An individual’s ecological environment affects their mortality risk, which in turn has fundamental consequences for life-history evolution
Modern science is so silo’d we’re not just blind scientists and the elephant. We’ve bombed the elephant on accident and are looking at pieces of it’s entrails in isolation.
Ashley C. Ford (@iSmashFizzle) tweeted at 6:08 AM – 6 Jan 2019 :
Why was so much of my foundational learning meant to teach me how to stifle myself or make myself smaller? (http://twitter.com/iSmashFizzle/status/1081900254713335810?s=17)Ashley C. Ford (@iSmashFizzle) tweeted at 2:42 PM – 5 Jan 2019 :
You know what happens when you’re too scared to dream big? Or when the circumstances of your life limit your imagination? By the time someone finally asks you what you want, you have no idea how to answer that question. (http://twitter.com/iSmashFizzle/status/1081667256181055493?s=17)
simine vazire (@siminevazire) tweeted at 4:40 AM – 8 May 2019 :
How would I know if my own research area was this wrong?
Our usual safeguards won’t save us: peer review, meta-analysis, 100s of conceptual replications, listening to eminent researchers. All failed.
This should be keeping us up at night.
Big Think (@bigthink) tweeted at 6:30 AM – 13 May 2019 :
Whales are perpetually stressed. Here’s how 9/11 showed us this. https://t.co/Dq6I5aLV6U https://t.co/jQQTZASYEd(http://twitter.com/bigthink/status/1127914078570209280?s=17)Nearly all commercial shipping was halted on September 11th and the few days following, enabling researchers to observe whales in an environment that they almost never experience anymore — a quiet, (nearly) human-free one.
The researchers contend that the constant barrage of sound from ships crossing the oceans is extraordinarily unpleasant for whales. Judging from the amounts of glucocorticoids in their fecal matter, whales are almost constantly on edge.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s Wisdom (@TalebWisdom) tweeted at 1:04 AM – 26 Jul 2019 :
“The first, and hardest, step to wisdom: avert the standard assumption that people know what they want.” – @nntaleb (http://twitter.com/TalebWisdom/status/1154648656806592519?s=17)
“It is hard to survive in the jungle if your were taught in the zoo”
A brilliant insight into organization behavior by @sonjabl
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/orgnet/status/1288653139441340416