consensus_______ same on issuu _______ [image linked to mw defn]:
a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is shared by all the people in a groupone idea .. shared by all people.. i don’t know. make that’s our hold up.. our roadblock .. finite set of choices perhaps we have the tech capabilities (io dance ness) to redefine decision making.. and if we do.. perhaps we shouldn’t perpetuate efficiency of a mode/medium/means we no longer need. perhaps we be brave enough to disengage from what’s irrelevant. from all the manufactured consent ness. perhaps we reimagine our broken feedback loop. ___________
david on consensus – from fragments of an anarchist anthropology:
 in egal societies which tend to place an enorm emphasis on creating and maintaining *communal consensus*then not egalitarian in the sense of equity (everyone getting a go every day).. because public consensus always oppresses someone(s)
252  this often appears to spark a kind of equally elaborate reaction formation, a spectral nightworld inhabited by monster, witches or other creatures of horror.. and it’s the most peaceful societies which are also the most haunted, in the imaginative construction of the cosmos, by constant specter of perennial war.. the invisible worlds surrounding them are literally battlegrounds.. *it’s as if the endless labor of achiving consensus masks a constant inner violence*that’s it.. that’s spot on man.. and we’re missing it.. ie: if we’re trying to do (or thinking we can/must do) consensus.. (any form of democratic admin).. we’re masking/hiding a deep violence.. david on consensus
huge huge hugeet al ________ moxie on democracy – yay _______
Collaboration is how problems are solved. It is the ability to reach consensus. Jaime Casap @jcasap https://t.co/hwe5HfWfYe Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/kprebble/status/703366414317416448
or is the ability we now have to find our people… with the short lag time we all crave..
perhaps we quit chasing the puck.. pleasing others.. assuming supposed to’s..
let’s do that. what if it’s less about moving our thinking around to match.. and more about moving us around to match..
be\cause public consensus always oppresses someone (s)snowden private in public law this is why we need a means to undo our hierarchical listening ________ eudaimonia as the day gershenfeld something else law www ness enough revolution of everyday life revolution in reverse ______
a nother wayfor (blank)’s sake… _________
@urban_commons “We need friction instead of consensus and culture instead of economics” | Social City buff.ly/1oMAYoCpic.twitter.com/tvR7bV12AIhttp://socialcities.org/blog/we-need-friction-to-coexist-and-culture-instead-of-economy-to-guide-us/
Pascal Gielen _______ from Rebecca Solnit‘s hope in the dark
It is precisely this dissensus that can hold a society together, because it presumes a great deal of trust in the other.[..] we should learn to deal with dissensus, instead of trying to ‘solve’ everything through consensus. We need to avoid consensus, because it is excluding. Those who don’t fit the consensus, are truly left out. Dissensus, however, respects different perspectives and always holds the possibility that we see or realise something that we hadn’t noticed before. [..] This also means that our ways of attributing meaning can continuously change. That way we can escape our current conservative model, which confuses a state of culture with a state of nature, as is happening both in politics and mainstream media. Here, the free market is perceived as a natural given, as well as the financialised society. There must be values that are worthier than a balanced budget. Current acts of terrorism, and least as much governmental responses to it, show that some things are more important than a balanced budget. Unfortunately this doesn’t count for the care of elderly or disabled, to name just one example. If we would look at this from a cultural perspective instead of an economic one, we would understand that the world could always be different. And that’s the point. If we would embrace commonism, we would create an enormous sense of possibility and cultural freedom.
loc 1842 jim dodge claims anarchy as an essential element of bioregionalism, ‘ the conviction that we as a community, or a tight, small-scale federation of communities, can mind our own business, and can make decisions regarding our individual/communal lives and gladly accept responsibilities/consequences of those decision.’.. this brings us back to he activism of the past 20 yrs.. or more, since contemporary anarchist organizing draws upon the decentralized models of the anarchists of the spanish civil war for its affinity groups, the more or less autonomous associations of five to fifteen people that constitute the basic unit of direct actionanarch\ism.. and jo freeman ness.. and ginorm small ness.. and…… a means/mech to facil that that would essentially make consensus as we know it.. waggle dance ness.. irrelevant..
he ability we now have to find our people… with the short lag time we all crave..
perhaps we quit chasing the puck.. pleasing others.. assuming supposed to’s..
in other words, they were, or rather we are, anarchists, and this mode of organizing comes most directly out of the antinuclear movement of the 1980s, where direct democracy was established through affinity groups and spokescouncils using consensus decision-making processes (a spokescouncil is a meeting to which member affinity groups have each sent a spokespersonyet.. again.. even deeper.. now have means to disengage from (or at least go ginorm small.. approach limit of zero/infinity).. consensus ______ dissensus ______ from the trap doc
32 min – what this meant was.. politicians..bureaucrats who said were working for public good.. was a complete fantasy.. because to do that.. *dependent on creating shared goals in society based on self-sacrifice and altruism.. but in a world that was really driven by suspicous/self-seeking individuals.. such concepts could not exist..and shouldn’t really.. again.. playing extremes here… today we can go beyond.. *shared goals in society.. so we can’t not.. because public consensus always oppresses someone (s)
out of this came a theory called public choice.. and a group of economists who wished to destroy a politicians dream.. that they were working for the public good… their leader: james buchanan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_M._Buchanan)consensus ness __________ via jon rt:
James McGill Buchanan, Jr. (/bjuːˈkænᵻn/; October 3, 1919 – January 9, 2013) was an Americaneconomist known for his work on public choice theory (included in his most famous work The Calculus of Consent), for which he received the Nobel Memorial Prize in 1986. Buchanan’s work initiated research on how politicians’ and bureaucrats’ self-interest, utility maximization and other non-wealth maximizing considerations affect their decision making. He was a member of the Board of Advisors of The Independent Institute, a member (and for a time the President) of the Mont Pelerin Society, a Distinguished Senior Fellow of the Cato Institute, and professor at George Mason University.
Jan Höglund (@janhoglund) tweeted at 9:52 PM on Sun, Dec 22, 2019: “There is a deep irony in the fact that platforms built to connect the world instead reduced our capacity for finding common ground.” https://t.co/kRy6bZVrDm (https://twitter.com/janhoglund/status/1208973708079050757?s=03) title: mediating consent The printing press, invented approximately 50 years before the 95 Theses, extended Luther’s reach from the door of the cathedral to the entirety of Europe.huge diff.. not entirety .. ie: language as control/enclosure has to be everyone or it won’t work
This portends a societal transformation: our information ecosystem no longer assists us in reaching consensus. In fact, it structurally discourages it, and instead facilitates a dissensus of bespoke pseudo-realities.perhaps consensus (aka oppression) isn’t what we ever wanted
Today, there is no institution with the legitimacy capable of bridging these gaps and *restoring our capacity for achieving consensus, and neither are there **credible technological means with which to create and preserve harmony within a pluralist dissensus.*again.. thinking that’s not what we really want/need **yeah.. i think there are.. which is huge.. listen deeper .. tech as it could be.. dissensus et al
This tension is unsustainable for *democratic society, which leaves us with two choices: either we rebuild mechanisms for achieving consensus, or **develop new technologies for operating sustainably within persistent dissensus. The tension itself is not new — the history of media is in part the history of managing it — but the severity with which it is manifesting today, is.*perhaps not what we need **2 convers as infra – what we need is for more to believe in it than develop new techs for it.. (already have techs for it.. just don’t believe it would work) and even deeper.. more about facil-ing daily curiosity than operating in dissensus curiosity over decision making et al
Beyond matters strictly within the realm of material reality, fully determined by the laws of physics and for which consensus opinion is irrelevant — a tornado is destructive regardless of whether the community believes in it or not — reality has always been, to an extent, a matter of social consensus. Achieving consensus requires that people communicate, discuss facts, debate actions, and reconcile – or compromise on – differences of opinion.who’s deciding what facts are.. ? our discussions end up being off a menu/script.. so not really alive/reality.. no? (nora on voice-change et al)
Although the phrase was popularized by Noam Chomsky decades later, it was journalist Walter Lippmann who first described the process, which he called the “manufacture of consent”.manufactured consent ness
The manufacture of consent has not stopped; it just happens at the micro-reality level now. . sometimes, the only thing required to sustain authority is the ability to claim one possesses it, loudly and frequently enough. this pervasive, acrimonious dissensus is untenable for a democratic society; something has to change. Can we redesign or create an information ecosystem that engenders sufficient consensus for governance functions? If not, how do we transition to a non-toxic form of dissensus that can sustain governance at least as well as older processes of manufacturing consent, for all their faults, did?irrelevant questions.. go deeper
In the United States, as in many other nations that have undergone a digital media shift, we have an actively *disinformed citizenry, fragmented into an archipelago of perpetually warring island realities, at a time when we face profound societal challenges that require consensus action. Addressing issues like climate change, public health disasters, technological shifts transforming the workforce will be impossible if we remain in this phase of intractable hyperpartisanship and pyrrhonism.*informed citizenry.. not what we want/need
We’re at a turning point: the fragmentation of media and the collapse of elite institutions did not lead to a better, more honest, or functional system. There is a deep irony in the fact that platforms built to connect the world instead reduced our capacity for finding common ground.not so ironic when you realize the we keep trying partial ness.. and we can’t do part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…
The path forward requires systems to facilitate mediating, not manufacturing, *consent. We need a hybrid form of consensus that is resistant to the institutional corruption of top-down control, and welcomes pluralism, but is also hardened against bottom-up gaming of social infrastructure by **malign actors.not about *consent.. about curiosity ie: 2 convers as infra **gershenfeld something else law
The question is whether the more viable solution comes from addressing the formation of factions, or by *creating an environment that will lead to a politically and socially healthy relations among the island realities in the archipelago of dissensus.2 convers as infra everyday
Instead, we can focus — as Madison did — on mitigating the harmful effectbetter to focus on curiosity via gershenfeld something else law
we need something to serve as a trusted *factual mediator as well. It has been possible to design systems that facilitate collaborative consensus realities that largely align with the truth; Wikipedia’s negotiated facts are one such example.tech as it could be.. listening to every voice everyday.. let go of *fact ness.. what we need is more about human ness – mufleh humanity law: we have seen advances in every aspect of our lives except our humanity– Luma Mufleh because what we need most is he energy of 8b alive people
Ultimately, the promise of social media — systems to facilitate human connection, and to disintermediate access to information – still has the potential to be a powerful force for good in the world. But it won’t happen on its own. The future that realizes this promise still remains to be invented.already invented.. we just need to set 8b people free – so they can practice/be/live it
let’s do this first: free art-ists.for (blank)’s sake…
a nother way_________ from Erich Fromm‘s the sane society:
public consensus always oppresses someone(s).. and validation ness.. is 1\ inhumane and very likely 2\ impossible red flags __________
2 – can a society be sick – the pathology of normalcy14 what is so deceptive about the sate of mind of the members of a society is the ‘consensual validation’ of their concepts. it is naively assumed that the fact that the majority of people share certain ideas or feelings proves the validity of these ideas and feelings.. nothing is further from the truth.. the fact that millions of people share the same forms of mental pathology does not make these people sane
@avi_khalil @monk51295 @dominichills5 @inside_lemon actually consensus isn’t aiming for an agreed idea Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/davidgraeber/status/1258168574218252289 @davidgraeber: If (it’s ?) about limiting collective decision-making to concrete courses of action, assuming ideas are and should be diverse, but ensuring no one is or feels forced to do something they detestperhaps that limit can approach infinity if we just facil daily curiosity ie: cure ios city with 2 conversations as infrastructure.. via tech as it could be.. listening every voice everyday and using that data to connect us.. trusting that that natural interconnectedness (because we would just be augmenting our interconnectedness not forcing ie: group project ness) would allow us to get/back to the dance of an undisturbed ecosystem.. where things like consensus; decision making; .. are barely on our radar.. (because 100% of us are too busy doing the thing we can’t not do.. a natural dance.. that is already in us.. and for us.. and about all of us) _________