if poverty is indeed more about a loss/absence/scarcity of attachment/relationship/community rather than a loss of things/house… we redefine most people’s image/perception of poor.. no?
have/have not ness…
the goal is not to make the materially poor all over the world into middle-to-upper-class north americans, a group characterized by high rates of divorce, sexual addiction, substance abuse, and mental illness. not is the goal to make sure that the materially poor have enough money. indeed, america’s welfare system ensured that alisa collins and her family had more than enough money to survive, but they felt trapped. rather, the goals is to restore people to a full expression of humanness…. – Corbett/Fikkert
quotes found in book below
book links to amazon
p. 78: imagine going to a donor and asking for funds to transform a city through – hanging out. – new song, mark gornik, allan & susan tibbles
one of the hallmarks of mark, allan, and susan’s success is that they no longer direct new song. instead, new song continues to thrive under the leadership of community members, low=income people who were empowered by a relational process that focused on reconciling their foundational relationships instead of on implementing projects to produce products.
unfortunate insight/misunderstanding in the book:
p. 81: living in the context of violence, some ghetto children correctly assume that they will not live very long. this can make them very present-oriented and give them little incentive to invest in their futures through such things as being diligent in school. and of course, a failure to get a good education contributes to their long-run material poverty.
education in a more true sense of the word – maybe. but not what we practice as education today. that’s leading to humans as empty shells – and/or shame/arrogance.
I fear that far too many have no familiarity — or even empathy — with what it means to be poor in this country, or in any country.
Poverty is a diabolical predicament that not only makes scarce one’s physical comforts, but drains away one’s spiritual strength. It damages hopes and dreams, and having deficits among those things is when the soul begins to die. – Charles M Blow
Colonialism set out to take away their self-sufficiency, on their own territory, and lead them to glorious productivity, as menials, on someone else’s. There’s little point in calling for retroactive apologies for this because it’s not confined to the past: most development schemes foisted on tribal peoples today point in exactly the same direction.
is poverty actually soluble…? i think we’ve misunderstood how to understand how to measure poverty. infant mortality and life of life.. ie: start finding areas of glasgow similar to areas of congo. once you frame poverty in those terms rather than cash flow.. you’ve got better representation of people that are self-sufficient on their own land when cash terms are very poor but in life span doing quite well. (ie: karawa – they’ve broken the idea that you need cash flow) once you decouple the idea of income from poverty.. you get much more political freedom to design nuanced and solvent problems…a language problem .. need to decouple these concepts and start talking about excess mortality rather than deficient cash flow – Vinay Gupta – from q&a of dec 2014 talk
from Pico Iyer‘s talk
Matt Taibbi – the divide
Virginia Eubanks – automating ineq
51% of public school kids in poverty
feb 2015 – on fixing the wrong things – gates initiative/power –
1\ people make poverty 2\ history shows policies made poverty 3\ the good news story – not quite so – ie: 80% living under $5/day 4\ power matters – ie: those with the money make the rules, usually in ways that serve their own interests. This is why 93 cents of every $1 made since the 2008 crash has gone to the 1%.
We might have had to settle for small technical fixes 30 years ago. In 2015, we certainly don’t.
let’s go deep enough.
3 ways humans create poverty (shared in fb edge by Joe):
1\closing off commons
2\outsourcing the problem
3\the “free trade” paradox
notes from book: the highest poverty
US poverty data: 1 in 15 people among America’s poorest poor https://t.co/paOhQGseHh
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/nikhilgoya_l/status/827330051016376320
Nikhil Goyal (@nikhilgoya_l) tweeted at 7:36 AM – 31 Jan 2017 :
“The number of people living in extremely poor neighborhoods has increased by five million over last decade.” https://t.co/AkiYBG4b4M (http://twitter.com/nikhilgoya_l/status/826438990375026689?s=17)
Very cool. chronicle.com/article/The-Ne…
article from 2012
Concentrated poverty, after declining in the 1990s, swung back upward in the 2000s. Almost nine million people live in “extreme poverty” neighborhoods, where “at least 40 percent of residents have incomes below the federal poverty threshold” of roughly $23,000 for a family of four, according to the journal Science.
Whereas the ghetto of the 1940s was a place where all classes of African-American families were forced to live, the ghetto of the 1980s was a place where the most impoverished African-Americans had been abandoned.
Wilson argued that social isolation magnified the effects of living in concentrated poverty, as residents faced limited access to marriage-worthy mates, job information, good schools, and role models.
But how do you measure the effect of neighborhoods on people’s lives?
Sampson’s answer is Great American City, a book that Wilson calls “one of the most comprehensive and sophisticated empirical studies ever conducted by a social scientist.”
In reality, immigrants appear to be “less violent than people born in America, particularly when they live in neighborhoods with high numbers of other immigrants,” he has written. Immigrants born outside the United States were 45 percent less likely to commit violence than third-generation Americans, while second-generation immigrants were 22 percent less likely.
“Recent research now is showing that increases in immigration at the neighborhood level lead to decreases in crime,” Sampson tells me.
Thirty percent of black children in Chicago live in the bottom 25 percent of severely disadvantaged neighborhoods. The percentage of whites who live in them? Zero.
The bottom line, for Katz, is that “neighborhoods profoundly matter.” The Harvard economist, principal investigator of the program’s long-term study, says “the difference between living in a very poor neighborhood and a moderately middle-class neighborhood is as large as doubling your income in terms of happiness and well-being.”
What poor areas need, he argues, is something they have never had: a consistent investment policy that touches multiple generations.
Conrad Hackett (@conradhackett) tweeted at 1:14 AM – 15 Jun 2017 :
Children living in poverty
ASDeckard (@AsDeckard) tweeted at 1:19 AM – 15 Jun 2017 :
@conradhackett ‘relative poverty’
Ah, the measure that counts a US family with only one car as impoverished, but not a Russian family who shits in a hole. (http://twitter.com/AsDeckard/status/875251341588705280?s=17)
Angel Senterfold (@angelsenterfold) tweeted at 1:16 AM – 15 Jun 2017 :
@conradhackett Children doing sex to finance their parents is the same numbers here in NL (http://twitter.com/angelsenterfold/status/875250595367661568?s=17)
Cem (@Javartan) tweeted at 1:20 AM – 15 Jun 2017 :
@conradhackett How can Israel beat us to this? This definitely doesnt include syrian refugee kids. Thats why. (http://twitter.com/Javartan/status/875251674620846081?s=17)
Katarina Gray-Sharp (@TeachingConsult) tweeted at 1:30 AM – 15 Jun 2017 :
@conradhackett “High national income … no guarantee of a good record in sustaining child well-being.” NZ 34th of 41: https://t.co/neSIUQZo83 | @UNICEF (http://twitter.com/TeachingConsult/status/875254247553613825?s=17)
Killa.fish (@ObeseDragonfish) tweeted at 3:57 AM – 15 Jun 2017 :
@conradhackett USA is the beginning of the super crap statistics (http://twitter.com/ObeseDragonfish/status/875291199405514752?s=17)
Arthur Brooks (@arthurbrooks) tweeted at 10:17 PM – 16 Oct 2017 :
“Well-to-do Americans have almost no meaningful contact with anyone from economically marginalized communities.” https://t.co/JxQZDeSpxS (http://twitter.com/arthurbrooks/status/920141577204494336?s=17)
paid work creates poverty. anyone not enabling the corps and doing their work lives in fear of the legal/societal persecution that comes w poverty.. poverty is the hardest work of any available today. it is a very expensive lifestyle, entailing endless fines/charges/fees levied by the corp/govt world. it leaves no time to achieve any fulfillment, is a life threatening health risk, and is extremely damaging to all personal relationships..
dec 2017 – why un is investigating extreme poverty in richest nation – via Philip Alston
With 41 million Americans officially in poverty according to the US Census Bureau (other estimates put that figure much higher), one aim of the UN mission will be to demonstrate that no country, however wealthy, is immune from human suffering induced by growing inequality.
Clint Smith (@ClintSmithIII) tweeted at 6:08 PM – 17 Jan 2018 :
I don’t think people fully appreciate how the public policy in this country actively makes the lives of poor people more difficult. (http://twitter.com/ClintSmithIII/status/953796298112688128?s=17)
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” Since 1968, the number of US citizens living in poverty has increased by 60%. On average, men in the highest income bracket live 15 years longer than men in the lowest.”
On 4 April 1967, Dr Martin Luther King Jr took to the pulpit at New York’s Riverside Church, and warned that ‘a nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death’.
To turn things around, he said, ‘We as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values’.
‘We must rapidly begin to shift from a ‘thing-oriented’ society to a ‘people-oriented’ society. When machines and computers profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism and militarism are incapable of being conquered.’
‘Somehow, this madness must cease’, he said..t
No, it’s not the militarism, it’s the madness that resonates today. Since 1968, the number of US citizens living in poverty has increased by 60%. ..no tweak of the US tax code – or even a new president – will help much.
The systemic nature of the problem (if you’re a poor person, not a bank) is not limited to one ethnicity or region.
The seductions of the status quo don’t work as well for this generation because they came of age seeing it crash. They’re not wedded to the promise of the capitalist ‘American Dream’ that was proffered to their parents, because it shows no signs of being wedded to them, or even having a place for them in it.
All these years on, it’s clear that while communications work, advocacy and legal defence are important, no amount of any of those will stop systemic madness.
Dozens of cities and towns, including New York, Madison, Oakland and Rochester, now invest public money in incubating worker-owned cooperatives.
coops aren’t deep enough
the very fact that so much is up for grabs, from the economy to security to our democracy, makes a re-ordering inevitable..
In 1967, King described his speech at Riverside as a call simply for people to love one another: ‘…for world-wide fellowship that lifts neighborly concern beyond one’s tribe, race, class and nation’.
EHRP (@econhardship) tweeted at 6:33 AM – 22 Feb 2018 :
“Ability is nothing without opportunity. We, as a society, have a responsibility to provide the means to break the cycle of poverty” https://t.co/VCI081ImE4(http://twitter.com/econhardship/status/966667140496375808?s=17)
equity: everyone getting a go everyday
we have the means to facil that