simone cicero

simone cicero

been listening/following from a distance..

ie 1: from indy‘s page

Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 7:54 AM – 5 Dec 2016 :

Democracy cannot be reduced to the vote: functioning democracy reqs democratising capital, knowledge… @indy_johar (

1\ *Democracy sits on the stack of the military and the rule of law. These two conditions need to exist prior to any form of functioning democracy. They are put in service of democracy – but are also independent pillars of democracy formation. We must acknowledge we are not free of the war machine and the destructive power of war or structure of security. In fact many of our democracies are increasingly in a constant state of war focused on preserving and enhancing interests – we must reconcile this reality – our pretty “libertarian” dreams sit on the shoulders of the war machine – in all its forms from economic, military and cyber war. (Let’s not glorify this but we must acknowledge this reality in our politics)


2\ *Representative Democracy is just a form of societal decision making architecture, as much as the famed “market” is a model of societal decision making and “learned societies” (the professions) are another model of decisions making architecture — where the primacy of knowledge & practice holds power — in preference to price or collective agreement) – increasingly this historic triad has been disrupted by rise of scalable social networks and their power to influence societal decision making. Together theses societal decision making structures come together to build a complex and balanced interplay of decision making — fusing long term thinking, with distributed long tail thinking and supply demand matching logics.

*and that’s why.. #1..

if we insist on society decision making (ie: consensus).. and public consensus always oppresses someone(s).. then we need force (

no longer need to rep.. no more rep ping.. violence ing

we have the tech capabilities (io dance ness) to redefine decision making..


they were charged to *look after the public interest, not our interest, or just our communities interests — but the public interest

perhaps … the idea that anyone has to.. *look after public interest.. rather than trust (aka: 100%) us as one.. trust the dance.. is what’s keeping us from us..

we shouldn’t perpetuate efficiency of a mode/medium/means we no longer need.

ie 2: from gregory‘s page:

Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 2:59 PM on Tue, Oct 08, 2019:
“Sometimes the dissonance between reality and false beliefs reaches a point when it becomes impossible to avoid the awareness that the world no longer makes sense. Only then is it possible for the mind to consider radically different ideas and perceptions.”
G. Bateson

hmm.. not sure that’s the only time it can happen.. i think if people are able to access a nother way to live today.. one that their souls already crave.. they’d take it.. regardless of their analysis/awareness of the immensity of today’s non-sense

adding page this day (via michel fb share):

Simone Cicero announces:

“I’ll be in Madrid on October 18–20 to speak about these and other related ideas and inspirations with giants such as Nora Bateson, Perry Timms, Paul Tolchinsky, Stelio Verzera, Jon Husband, and more. Join us there, there’s still time.

nora, jon, ..

We are exploring the deep and ecosystemic meaning that any choice in business has. It will inspire and challenge a new understanding of the world of work.”


notes/quotes from post: A New Cosmology of Organising – Platforms as cosmo-techno-organizing

Despite a feeling of widespread confusion is in the air, we are slowly becoming aware of one thing: having routinely delegated our sense-making to the conformist replication of a mindless industrial bureaucracy — and having accepted its narrow frames of imagination — it’s showing dire consequences. Everything is falling and we can’t think of anything different.

perhaps 2 convers as infra. . found in the cracks..

cracks in ref to this tweet:

@meedabyte: If the new story of organizing can only be seen through the fissures and the cracks, this may be a good moment to look.

The industrial machine is not going to cope with such unpredictability: it’s too fragile.

hmm.. i thought unpredictability was antifragile

Different levels of collapse will be happening, when unpredictability breaks down the machine agenda

With the demise of predictability, not only Game A (the industrial civilization) is collapsing, but our episteme is failing too. Indeed our rationalist and mechanistic episteme only works in a predictable and thoroughly causal world, where you never need to question the frame..t

whales in sea world

The bad (or good) news is that our identities, as a consequence of the collapse of the system and the failure of our episteme, are breaking down badly.

identity ness.. irrelevant

We are partners in crime in the destabilization of the world.

We find ourselves not only egocentricnarcissistic and individualists but also… colonialists.

in fact.. collapse already widespread..It’s just that is not here, not for us, and therefore we’re not paying attention…We just don’t think about this, or if we do, that’s just a noisy thought, in the background of our productive participation in the mindless industrial machine.

quiet enough to see

But what could be then the meaning of organizing when the world we used to know is disappearing before our eyes? What is the information and knowledge we’re seeking with organizing, through the collapse of the mechanistic, rationalist, and industrial world?..t

self-talk as data for finding locals w/like daily curiosity

ie: augmenting our interconnectedness

This new cosmology needs to take into account that our perception of the world as a complicated machine — to which we relate as individuals separated from it— needs to go. It entails going beyond individuality, accepting interdependence andthe embeddedness of humans in the world. It needs us to bear the weight of complexity, the impossibility to know through exact models.

In an industrial society one doesn’t really learn: one passively receives an education that is premised on keeping us separated from any profound processes of sense-making that could question the frame.

if equity is everyone getting a go every day.. redefining public education becomes revolution of everyday life.. aka: global equity

An education system that is in service of an economic system effectively becomes a self-colonization and the reduction of humans to pieces of a complicated machine: to ensure the flawless progress we are “educated” — as consumers, employees — and just allowed to play a pre-defined role. A thoroughly toxic information ecology, based on algorithms that reinforce our biases, has even grown organically around this model, ensuring that conformism resists the tides of deeper consciousness.

So how do we organize in service of learning in interdependence?

let’s just facil daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city.. via 2 convers as infra

If the new story of organizing can only be seen through the fissures and the cracks, this may be a good moment to look.

indeed.. and act

“For a man to change the basic beliefs that determine his perception — his epistemological premises — he must first become aware that reality is not necessarily as he believes it to be. Sometimes the dissonance between reality and false beliefs reaches a point when it becomes impossible to avoid the awareness that the world no longer makes sense. Only then is it possible for the mind to consider radically different ideas and perceptions.” – Gregory Bateson

again.. not sure we have to get to that point.. if we just free people first

let’s do this firstfree art-ists.

for (blank)’s sake

a nother way

I’ve been working on the concept of platforms for years now, and I know that most of the attraction that platforms offer to our idea of organizing has been related to the effects of *plummeting transaction costs in economic activity.

yeah.. *wrong/cancerous focus

perhaps let’s try/code money (any form of measuring/accounting) as the planned obsolescence

ie: ubi as temp placebo..

Despite platforms present themselves to the designer as tools of dominationmonopolization, extraction, and control this shouldn’t impede the mindful designer to seek to use them to create spaces of true learning and pursue a reintegration of the organization in the landscape and the community, by means of them.

ie: hlb via 2 convers that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

Acknowledging that the episteme and the identity that produced such tools and technologies are profoundly colonialist — I made the example of the smartphone earlier on— and still wanting to interact with them in creating a networked, evolutionary, and re-embedded breed of organizations surely manifests itself as a truly deep and uncomfortable paradox, and a somewhat old and burning question, the question concerning technology


mufleh humanity lawwe have seen advances in every aspect of our lives except our humanity– Luma Mufleh

ai humanity needs: augmenting our interconnectedness

This, I believe, is our moment. A moment to become fully aware of our potential and — at the same time — to de-exceptionalize both the human and the techno-organizing.

It’s the moment to acknowledge and frame our relationship with techno-organizing as part of a process of re-embedding ourselves in the landscape and in the community as bridges to the cosmos..t

ie: 2 convers as infra.. in the city.. as the day..

It’s the moment to look at our organizing beyond any simplistic, mechanistic, and Cartesian episteme and to develop such a relationship with our organizing that makes us able to see, through it, the beauty of the universe and — just as a part of it — of all humans. Our organizing needs to become and act of co-existence.

begs we get us whales out of sea world.. and start trusting each gut.. which begs a mech to listen to every voice.. everyday.. ie: tech as it could be..

same post here but on medium:

T @meedabyte: Post availabile here  “A New Cosmology of Organizing”
Original Tweet:

and same post via newsletter:

Latest newsletter: A New Cosmology of Organising issue’s thread weaves together #platforms #cosmotechnics #crypto & more. Feat: @econaut6@doctormickey @jhagel @jseelybrown @MazzucatoM @sahana2802 @Kusti @EskoKilpi @ljin18 @leashless – pure wisdom

Original Tweet:

john, john sb, mariana, esko, vinay, ..


Stelio Verzera (@ShiverTweet) tweeted at 0:30 PM on Sat, Oct 12, 2019:
There is one “killer feature” that all the people I have witnessed evolving fast and healthy have in common. They all have a sincere and deep ability of receiving all kinds of feedback in their life journey, with gratitude, curiosity, kindness and enjoyment for the opportunity.

Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 1:46 PM on Sat, Oct 12, 2019:
Seems like you’re projecting your pattern of the-best-are-feedback-receivers on people. Which sounds wrong at least for 2 things: there’s no killer feature in people and you’re searching and finding a pattern imho.

Stelio Verzera (@ShiverTweet) tweeted at 2:16 PM on Sat, Oct 12, 2019:
No Simone, I am not projecting nor searching, it is just my observation of a pattern. And “killer feature” was in quotes.


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 1:15 PM on Wed, Oct 23, 2019:
As @digital_objects points out, we need acknowledging that developing multiple, local cosmotecnics is the only way to imagine a real overcoming of modernity.     4/4.

cosmotechnics et al


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 3:52 AM – 28 Oct 2019 :
BREAKING NEWS: We just released a full, end-to-end example of application of Platform Design process, from our recent 3-day Bootcamp – from Value Chain Analysis, to Experience Design – a true gift for our +30k Community of users: unmissable #PDToolkit (

product.. commodity.. payment services.. standardized transactions..

let go..

let’s try/code money (any form of measuring/accounting) as the planned obsolescence

ie: ubi as temp placebo..


This year’s update from the “queen of the internet” was a 333 pages thick deck: lots of important aggregated data on global trends as a ground for strategic choices here’s my humble review, from May #BestOfPlatforms2019

Original Tweet:

now its the moment to leave space for a new way to look at technological trends, a way that is more aware not only of the political implications of technology — the agenda of which has been for too long deemed neutral — but also of the cosmological and moral backgrounds it needs to be integrated with.

tech as it could be.. listening to every voice everyday using that as data to augment our interconnectedness

mufleh humanity lawwe have seen advances in every aspect of our lives except our humanity– Luma Mufleh


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 3:40 AM on Fri, Dec 27, 2019:
This is the last year I’m interested in talking about platforms as something pure and technical: as a recipe for success. The idea of success needs to be questioned, and platform thinkers are responsible to experiment with it.
Can they reinvent the world?

Though important, this year helped us to understand clearly that, while essential, exponential learning is not the only nuance of change we need to pour into our approach to organizing..t

imagine if we pour 8b daily curiosities into our approach to organizing.. with 2 conversations as infra

tech/platform as it could be.. ie: cure ios city


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 5:55 AM on Mon, Jan 13, 2020:
“The common theme […] is obvious. It is the idea that we can no longer afford to see people only as ‘consumers’ or ‘workers’ or ‘owners’ or ‘voters’, but rather, first and foremost as citizens: members-of, and contributors-to a community & a society”

perhaps.. first and foremost human beings.. ie: citizen-ness/members-of-ness making us think we need/are consumers, workers, owners, voters..

linked to 20 min read by alastair parvin – didn’t read it


via michel fb share (post from simone jan 20 2020):

“The practice of platforms-ecosystems thinking needs to be able to integrate a higher order of human systems complexity, the “civilization” level: it needs to zoom-out.

A massive process of business models reinvention is foreseeable in the short term as asset-heavy, energy-consuming, and infrastructure intensive business models could soon become liabilities: as new policies targeting reductions of environmental impacts (such as energy consumption, carbon footprint, or plastic pollution) are being put in place, organizations need to learn to enable more by owning and controlling less. Entire industries need to be reinvented and this will need to happen through what John Hagel calls opportunity-based narratives.” (John Hagel III (2019). On the Edge of a New Decade.)


Signs of transformation can be seen in the early and sometimes incredible success of services such as wonderschooland outschool(education), opendoor(housing),… and many more. All these services are inherently more contxtual, location based, trust and mastery sensitive: while everybody wants to make the Uber for X, none of these incredible opportunities can be really tackled with a Uber approach. We definitely need to understand more from a design perspective about how to tackle such more “systemic” opportunities, that normally feature multiple sides and stakeholders, longer relationships between parties, usually bigger transactions and inherently call for more participative governance processes and the need for more skin-in-the-game for participants

let’s just facil daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

The practice of platforms-ecosystems thinking needs to be able to integrate a higher order of human systems complexity, the “civilization” level: it needs to zoom-out.

zoom dance ness

Entire industries need to be reinvented and this will need to happen through what John Hagel calls opportunity-based narratives⁴.

rather.. thru curiosity based data.. ie: 2 convers as infra

Our economy will need to reconcile with limits — as in Kate Raworth’s doughnut economics— and with interdependence, in Batesonian terms: in both aspects, platform thinking can be useful by being a design practice that is inherently relationship-centric and intrinsically outside-in.

no need to focus on reconciling with limits ..if we first detox/free all the art-ists.. by listening deeper.. to everyone everyday..  (via tech as it could be).. the energy of 8b alive people will restore the natural balance of an undisturbed ecosystem

New experiments in distributed governance — leveraging on plummeting coordination cost— are making it possible for actors such as cooperatives and communities to self-organize in distributed ways around the production of a growing number of products and services.

we don’t need to produce/serve more things.. we need to get us back/to that undisturbed ecosystem.. where production et al.. is irrelevant.. to ie: eudaimoniative surplus; fittingness; alive/healthy-people

This transition towards organizations based on *multiple-centers, and powered by distributed technological architectures not only requires research in the field of governance but also in understanding what this evolution means for incentives and value perception.

we need to let *multiple approach the limit of infinity.. (multiple is too finite for human being ness).. red flags: thinking we can perceive value; thinking we need incentives

Finally, all these challenges demand us to recognize and nurture the flourishing of human potential that has been — so far and too often — channeled into platforms

channeled into what ever.. ie:

Our bet is different: the future of work, we dare to imagine, is made of self-organising entrepreneurial communities, sharing common technology stacks and protocols, where the talented contributors of the 2020s can not only monetize their personal talents through global platforms, but also collectively organize with other fellow citizens, to co-invest and take over some key productive processes such as welfare, education, food, energy, mutual credit.

red flags: monetize; citizens; co-invest; productive processes; et al

let go

All these developments will be radically transforming for current institutions: some will crash in such a pace of change — it’s no secret that the current organizational lifespan is shrinking widely.

yeah.. what you’re suggesting.. focusing on.. not that radical.. not that transforming..

let go

To explore such an unpredictable future, and provide you with visions of the gist of it — plus the tools to design it — we are venturing this year into writing a new research whitepaper.

red flags: whitepaper; research;..


David Kish (@DavidKish1) tweeted at 11:25 AM on Thu, Apr 23, 2020:
Latest research update on the future of Organizations and organizing.
Organizing for Complex Times: Divisionality and Modularity from @meedabyte

we’re engaging in an inquiry around what forms of organising at scale will prevail in the coming years and decade.

2 convers as infra


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 0:57 PM on Fri, Apr 24, 2020:
Who’s doing great deep thoughtful work and thought leadership (I’m interested in people that know how to put together some content) in scalable organizing and organizational/institutional transformation foresight?
Bonus point if it’s not a white dude.

scalable org/transform: 2 convers as infra

that would put together content (8b daily curiosities)..

perhaps any other content is a distraction to the whole

what do you mean by ‘know how to put together some content’

@meedabyte: Something people can read/use and engage with

which people (do you want to be able to read/use and engage with it)

seems the answer to that question will help design & determine the deepness/scalableness/transformativeness of the org..

if we’re wanting: all the people; scalable; transformation;.. perhaps we have to have the readable/usable/engageable part to be simple enough for 8b people to be able to access.. today.. ie: sans training/prep/et-al

iteracy and numeracy both elements of colonialism.. we need to calculate differently and stop measuring things (and writing content)

perhaps a good way for deep org for all: what are you curious about today; what matters to you;.. ie: 2 convers as infra via tech as it could be

@meedabyte: I was thinking about me first (as the one that raeads/explores)

what if the content is..whatever is on each heart at the beginning of each day. .we would need a mech to listen to 8b of that

rather than waiting for certain people to listen to, curate, combine, write about, whatever..

what if we trusted 8b people first

let’s build an infra that deep.. that simple.. that open


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 1:58 AM on Tue, Apr 28, 2020:
A good refresher on why the Next Paradigm Shift may not be Technological

Why the Next Paradigm Shift may not be Technological – But the reckoning with the role of a technology that pervades society

feb 2020 – 14 min read

As the pressure to regulate both, existing large players that are expanding globally, and new entrants that replicate aggregations strategies and platforms models in new spaces, we are likely to witness an explosion of contexts where regulators will be trying to exert control and others where a wholly new approach to regulation will be needed..t

too much ness (inspectors of inspectors et al) begs we try gershenfeld something else law

The intrinsic capability crypto-tech has to provide anonymity, Free speech, and distributed ownership makes crypto-networks a hard beast to police and regulate: good luck regulating an unstoppable and headless ecosystem of distributed actors only acting based on pre-defined incentive structures.. t

try gershenfeld something else law

How are we going to address the opportunities to reorganize markets that provide the key services of our economy? How to do that with substantially different intentions and involving radically different constituencies like local communities, cities, social organizers and entrepreneurs?..t

ie: cure ios city with 2 convers as infra via tech as it could be..


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 3:56 PM on Fri, May 01, 2020:
One of the intuitions I’ve felt lately, while doing research on the future of organizing, has been the transition between customer experience and health as the driving and architectural principle. In a recent podcast @DrDCWahl told me “health is a property of nested systems”

Euvie Ivanova (@euvieivanova) tweeted at 3:36 PM on Fri, May 01, 2020:
Can we take the health of living systems as a first principle and rebuild from there?

ie: cure ios city


find/follow Simone:

link twitter

Learning how Platforms, Peers and Partners work together. Creator of Platform Design Toolkit: Dad.


his site:

influencers: hagel, osterwalder, gansky, ..

[all very business model minded]

boundaryless convers


RT @meedabyte: I’m wondering, is there a moment we transcend consensus and dissent and work out a serious sense-making collective intelligence process? To what extent (geographies/niches)

Original Tweet:

yes that..

ie: 2 convers as infra


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 6:46 AM on Wed, May 06, 2020:
“have to admit that I find the whole world right now to be utterly incoherent.” @NoraBateson
Coherence: polarization (in-group/out-group) & “dissent as an operating tool” @indy_johar
Alt.? a political praxis of incoherence/multitudes (assemblages)?

2 convers as infra to get at basic needs

ie: cure ios city

transcend consensus and dissent’ via simone in last tweet

listen & connect


The only way a business should be considered ecosystemic is that of being in harmony with cosmos.

Original Tweet:

then is it a business?

@meedabyte: Organization might have been a better term

i don’t think the cosmos likes us doing business

@meedabyte: Shall we organise according to the cosmos? I guess so

yeah that..

‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows


Jon Husband (@jonhusband) tweeted at 9:14 AM on Thu, May 28, 2020:
“Companies are going to disappear, while organizations won’t” by @meedabyte via @aarondignan …

This article is part of an upcoming book titled “Ecosystems Inc. — Understanding, harnessing and developing organizational ecosystems” that will be published in July 2020 by Thinkers 50, ECSI Consulting and Haier Model Institute. Among the contributors, you’ll find Julian Birkinshaw, Rita Gunther McGrath, Bill Fischer and many great management thinkers of our time.

I’ve often referred to Conway’s law when describing the evolution of platforms and organizations in the past as: “organizations that design systems mirror their communication structure”. . t

let’s try something diff.. let’s undo our hierarchical listening.. ie: 2 convers as infra

ecosystems compete on their degree of openness

competition as cancer (how are you using bezos and amazon et al.. co’s that clearly abuse workers as ie’s?)

As John Hagel explains[11] the evolutive pressure — also due to increasing rate of change and asymmetric risks that can quickly reshape markets — will push an organization’s customer (or more broadly, a user) to look for flows of value creation that go beyond a specific vendor, beyond a specific organization and reach the possibility to create value with anyoneeverywhere. T

not everyone.. as long as we have property.. workers for pay.. et al

and has to be everyone or it won’t work

As a result, an effective organizational theory — and praxis — for the post-industrial and somewhat post-capitalistic age, may need to be heavily based on relationships and systems thinking and feature an *unbounded way of relating to the commons that don’t separate between in-groups and out-groups.

*yeah that.

but none of the above sounded anywhere near that

we first need people to free (detoxed) so that they truly know what they want/need for the day.. otherwise.. tragedy of the non common et al

Despite more research and *experimentation is due, some questions that arise in this context are the following: where are the **structures that can ensure both coherence and learning going to emerge from if suddenly the space between small organizations becomes a non-organizational one?

*actually .. just more listening is due..


1\ undisturbed ecosystem (common\ing) can happen

2\ if we create a way to ground the chaos of 8b free people

**let’s try this infrastructure

And how’s this inter-organizational space going to be characterized?

‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows

Is this space public or private?

both – 3 and 30

Is it agent- or data-centric?

both.. self-talk as data in order to create legit agency/authenticity

How are those “coherence ensuring” systems going to be created, evolved and governed?

by focusing on the root of the problem (maté basic needs) instead of symptoms.. makes ‘ensuring/governed’ ness irrelevant.. ridiculous even

At what scale?


across the board [to get to the roots of healing.. it has to be all of us]

How are these new emerging systems going to confront with existing incumbent organizations that today seem to monopolize the infrastructures of the information age?

again.. by getting at the root of the problem (maté basic needs) .. that 8b people (everyone) resonate with (crave) today

More independent blockchain projects — above all Ethereum for example — born to overcome centralised power, can easily turn out to be “tilted” playing field, as noted by Holochain’s chief architect Arthur Brock where influence and wealth accumulate and centralise over time harming trust.

actually.. any form of measuring/accounting (which is embedded in holochain et al).. will harm trust et al.. which

the dawn of a new age of organising. The developments of this new wave will happen within a firm but also in the space between them, from individuals to communities to bioregional playgrounds, states, and civilization and in the realm of fluid cooperation for a world in constant flux more than at the scale of single market opportunities and in the groove of competition.. “companies will disappear, while organizing won’t”:.. t

ie: cure ios city

sans firms, competition, market, et al


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 9:36 AM on Thu, Jun 04, 2020:
As algorithms outrun managerialism and industrial governance systems, we need to play on the essence of human potential when rethinking organising in the 21st century.

ie: cure ios city with 2 convers as infra


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 7:49 AM on Fri, Jun 05, 2020:
In my latest research writeup with @HeikkilaStina “Pervasive Marketplaces, Deflating Risk & a new Human Development Thesis” we tried to collect the four key theses that are emerging from our research on the New Foundations of #platforms and #ecosystem

14 min read – marketplace marketplace

To sum up, creating a case for entrepreneurs to be part of the same organization — especially as the trend towards localization — becomes a key problem of organising in the 21st Century.

not a problem of organising.. a problem of letting go of control of the organising..

let’s try 2 convers as infra

“Next generation of organising is about contextually unique solutions to emerge and adapt based on a coherent whole” — Dave Snowden ()

so.. how to facil org for this: in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows

ie: 2 convers as infra


This seems to point to the need for organisations to become more entangled in the local context and ramp up their role in society, beyond shareholder interest.

yeah.. beyond finite set of choices

ie: curiosity over decision making

McLuhan’s saying that “we shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us” never went out of fashion for a good reason, which is why organisational designers and leaders everywhere better get their hands dirty with re-thinking their tools for a context of health-driven local embeddedness.

but they don’t have to.. we can ongoingly shape ourselves if we use tech as it could be..

ie: to listen & connect to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature

This (new form of org) won’t come easy, as the old needs to give birth to the new, or , and there will be casualties in the process as people cling onto legacy and power.

not if the ‘new’ is based on the essence of being human.. ie: maté basic needs (so something every human already craves)

New constituents seeking to express themselves will further need to learn to solve setting directionintegrating effort through incentives and dividing labour between the different entities involved in the act of organising.

setting direction to be whatever.. integrating curiosities sans outside incentives.. there would be no labour (like we know it).. people would just be doing their art.. and then .. because it’s their art.. they’d be dying to give it away.. share it

This will lead to evolutions in the way we designmake decisions and conceive financial rewards.

red flag we’re doing it wrong: decision making about finite set of choices; seeking rewards of any kind

both working on modular tools that “commons engineers” and DAOs developers can use to designand integrate quickly digital infrastructures for collective governance, financing, voting, and decision making of new ventures.

red flags (that we’re not common\ing): financing, collective gov, voting, decision making

This considerations all led us to conclude, referred to previously, that organisations need to provide reflective spaces for deliberation and consensus-building

not really consensus building.. but listening deeper to find like minds/curiosities.. everyday.. that way .. no one is oppressed by public consensus

As algorithms outrun managerialism and industrial governance systems, we need to play on the essence of human potential when rethinking organising in the 21st century.

ie: cure ios city with 2 convers as infra


We’re in the midst of a profound systemic crisis: defining value is becoming very hard, with cascading effects, creating profound uncertainties with regards to meaning of organizing.
Tackling the Question of Value is not just hard but probably the most wicked problem of all
Original Tweet:

defining value is becoming very hard

do you mean defining what the word value means?
coming up with values to org around?

to first.. perhaps undefinable (so not a wicked problem) .. ie: graeber values law.. value.. generative value

to second.. (perhaps wicked problem solved?).. ie: maté basic needs

his response:

@monk51295 value is both *perceived* (trans-contextually) and *defined* politically-institutionally and definitely shapes organising (both of these perception layers) cc @NoraBateson

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Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 11:45 AM on Sun, Jun 14, 2020:
Collaborative decision making is, way too often, the placebo of organising.

later in thread

@meedabyte: I’m not calling ODT, just rather different context. I’m not attached to a metaphor but to the substance of the inadequacy of constructs such as “collaborative decision making” in the organisation

inadequate and oppressive/cancerous.. et al

the red flags of democracy ness et al


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 1:14 PM on Wed, Jul 01, 2020:
Is it even possible to talk about systems change without sounding naïve?


quote by joe norman

..”any organization that seeks to persist has to, by mathematical necessity, [ref: Ashby Law] respond to different challenges at different scales. So the question is, how do we enable a system to discover those natural scales of behavior that it needs to operate on?” (2/3)
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ie: cure ios city

what we need is to let go of the responding ness.. of the mathing ness..

‘ ideas won’t emerge w/o the jettisoning of much of our accustomed categories of thought—which have become mostly sheer dead weight, if not intrinsic parts of the very apparatus of hopelessness—and formulating new ones.’ – David Graeber


Ironically enough, decentralisation (Networks) as a technology will only cause the crisis of incumbents (Markets) but rely on even older regulatory players (Institutions).

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depends how much you decentralize (ie: to itch-in-8b-souls.. everyday)

Or on who has the monopoly of violence

perhaps no violence.. if we decentralize enough (ie: enough to undo our hierarchical listening)

I have faith in cryptography but still

not about faith in crypto so much as knowing what code/problem to write/solve in the first place.. no?

In what ways can this reduce the dependency on institutional governance?

just going of that one tweet.. so may be out of your context.. but actually.. am speaking out of any context we’ve yet tried..

i’d suggest using tech to listen to 8b people every day.. w/o judgement.. then using that data to connect us ..every day a new.. ie: imagine if we

trust that dance

i think we have no idea what legit free people are like (only whales).. so we assume the governance piece

Need to ponder but I believe we have to play next institutions not just hope they emerge from technological innovations

yeah.. part of the (cancerous) cycle/context we’ve been in.. been trying..

hope it works this time


huge huge huge: simone on fractal ness