indy johar

indy johar bw


co-founded hub westminster [heard about via Dougald] and oo:\ and…


The future of capitalism | Meaning 2012

as architects we were deskilling/depurposing..

as we go from consumer to producer economy.. dis economies of scale…

i am responsible – regardless of whoever pays me – for the public good…


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Indy Johar (@indy_johar) tweeted at 5:48 AM – 21 Sep 2016 :

A culture of informality/conversation commerce is veneer on even the most progressive orgs they all fall back old norms #DarkMatterProblems (

norms like… accounting/contracting…et al

The system challenges we face are not born of human limits/cultural lock-ins (most can be overcome) but our institutional infrastructure

Indy Johar (@indy_johar) tweeted at 5:54 AM – 21 Sep 2016 :

We haven’t reimagined governance, contracting, accounting, procurement for a complex emergent world (living in an illusion of certainty) (

reimagine accounting..contracting..?..
reimagine those things…or disengage from them…ie:a nother way that makes them irrelevant

if we really are seeking emergence…
won’t happen w all the measuring ness

Indy Johar (@indy_johar) tweeted at 6:01 AM – 21 Sep 2016 :

In this world corporates use asymmetric power to continue to live in an illusion of certainty forcing uncertainty to be carried by citizens (

interp/imag labor via David‘s rev in rev


Simone Cicero (@meedabyte) tweeted at 7:54 AM – 5 Dec 2016 :

Democracy cannot be reduced to the vote: functioning democracy reqs democratising capital, knowledge… @indy_johar (

1\ *Democracy sits on the stack of the military and the rule of law. These two conditions need to exist prior to any form of functioning democracy. They are put in service of democracy – but are also independent pillars of democracy formation. We must acknowledge we are not free of the war machine and the destructive power of war or structure of security. In fact many of our democracies are increasingly in a constant state of war focused on preserving and enhancing interests – we must reconcile this reality – our pretty “libertarian” dreams sit on the shoulders of the war machine – in all its forms from economic, military and cyber war. (Let’s not glorify this but we must acknowledge this reality in our politics)


2\ *Representative Democracy is just a form of societal decision making architecture, as much as the famed “market” is a model of societal decision making and “learned societies” (the professions) are another model of decisions making architecture — where the primacy of knowledge & practice holds power — in preference to price or collective agreement) – increasingly this historic triad has been disrupted by rise of scalable social networks and their power to influence societal decision making. Together theses societal decision making structures come together to build a complex and balanced interplay of decision making — fusing long term thinking, with distributed long tail thinking and supply demand matching logics.

*and that’s why.. #1..

if we insist on society decision making (ie: consensus).. and public consensus always oppresses someone(s).. then we need force (

no longer need to rep.. no more rep ping.. violence ing

we have the tech capabilities (io dance ness) to redefine decision making..


they were charged to *look after the public interest, not our interest, or just our communities interests — but the public interest

perhaps … the idea that anyone has to.. *look after public interest.. rather than trust (aka: 100%) us as one.. trust the dance.. is what’s keeping us from us..

we shouldn’t perpetuate efficiency of a mode/medium/means we no longer need.


Cassie Robinson. (@CassieRobinson) tweeted at 1:28 AM – 22 Jul 2017 :

If you’re trying to influence & design for long-term, systemic change then this provocation by @indy_johar is (

B. Startups to System Transition. Increasingly, and simultaneously we are recognizing that tinkering at the edges of our systems. won’t get us there — given the rising scale of the challenge. Shifting well-being in society, or addressing the rise of chronic diseases or incarceration rates, or the inclusive benefits of growth , or educational outcomes — cannot be addressed by minor interventions at the edge of the current model — but require whole scale system wide reform of an order we have not witnessed for nearly 50–70 years. We were once creating the NHS. and a modern public — university system but institutional renewal for society has not materialised out of the social innovation field so far. Yet this needs to be. a time of generational renewal — a time for reimagining our societal infrastructure and human development.

‘a time of generational renewal..’ (while reading postcapitalism)
that’s all the 50 yrs is.. not an econ pattern
econ has nothing to do w real us
in fact… mutating real us

C. The Rise of a complex multi-actor world. As we move to a complex, emergent and unknown world — we increasingly need a new institutional infrastructure which recognises the following: The challenge is not government but distributed governance.

The challenge is not about unlocking or shifting the statistical mean/or median of contribution but moral and ethical responsibility to unleash us all. The challenge is not the public sector but the distributed creation of public good. The challenge is not public or private but interdependence. The challenge is not just disruptive innovation of new products and services but the coordinated activity across our institutional infrastructure. *The challenge for financing is not about risk diversity across sectors and. portfolios but finding synergy within portfolios and places/systems. The challenge is not about getting one man on the moon but about getting. civilisation up in the stars.

great section – until.. financing is assumed..

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Whilst there have been a few attempts of applying this thinking to social infrastructure — it has largely been naive with efforts focusing on the efficiency of resource allocation as opposed to the fundamentals of care.

let’s try this ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

not necessarily incrementalism but real societal moonshots to support new practices, systems, tools or products which can drive a mainstream revolution

indeed.. [aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]


Aleksi Neuvonen (@Leksis) tweeted at 2:22 AM – 26 Aug 2017 :

A great text by @indy_johar on post managerial, post industrial and post “jobs for bad robots” #nextera. #futures (

Most of our human economy has since the industrial & managerial revolution functioned to full fill and comply with roles & processes for predefined value and imagination.

The industrial economy made humans “labour”, designed, focused and instrumentalised in the fullfillment of corporate value creation and the imagination of the few.

work ness

This is a future not designed to instrumentalise and passively enslave humans and drive compliance – through debt and wage incentives but to use “Universal Basic Income” to unleash and liberate purpose, care, collaboration and the capacity to dream and disrupt the future.

i don’t think ubi is enough to free us.. i think we have to disengage from any measuring ness..

This is a future which requires us to reimagine “Management” from being a means of control to a means for emancipate, nurture grow care and capacity.

ie: a mech to facil chaos.. rather than to .. organize it..

This is a future we requires us to start by embracing the relatively infinite possibility of humans – as opposed to our limited capacity to make roles and manage process.

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This is a future which embraces a tomorrow, where humans are the source of economy not redundant to its function.