voc – lorenzo patuzzo – monasteries of 21st cent
Lorenzo Patuzzo – Monasteries of the 21st Century (Valley of the Commons)
valley of the commons – 9-2-26 – lorenzo patuzzo – monasteries of 21st cent
[more on lorenzo and akasha et al bottom of page]
notes/quotes from lorenzo at voc:
intro: today have lorenzo from hubs network.. the most amazing sweetheart speak to us about his experiences of building monasteries in teh 21st cent.. lorenzo has been biggest cheerleader of this place.. given us so much love.. keeps place afloat.. emotionally, contributions, work.. he’s a good ie of what this place needs.. announcements: clean party today because place is disgusting again.. we will eat only after cleaning is done.. still need people for shift work.. let’s all contribute
see.. something so wrong there.. not the dance
lorenzo: fits very well w rules of monastery
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lorenzo: i just sent a list of topics.. i don’t have a presentation.. today going to talk about what diff hubs have in common.. not about monks.. but about us.. bigger picture of what humanity has been thru in last few thousand yrs.. where we are at the moment – last 4 b yrs we know there is a planet .. we come from apes.. 10 000 yrs ago got to agri.. 10 million yrs ago change from apes to standing up apes.. migration happened to africa and all over world.. ice age.. drought.. just in last 12000 yrs we past from surviving to thriving.. making michel can help with this.. i’m not knowledgable about all this
rather.. still surviving ness
note: on survival ness: survival is a means to survive things as they are.. so to me.. not a legit alt.. it’s triage.. perpetuating survival triage.. so a temp band aide per se.. that will /can help now.. but only for short term.. because it still doesn’t get to the root of the problem.. so it won’t offer/lead-to legit change/life/freedom.. et al.. so.. to me.. it’s still a cancerous distraction to the dance
lorenzo: say 10 m years is 10 km.. last 12 meters start from barely surviving to thriving.. can settle down and think about other stuff not just survival.. ie: rituals, org, civ, build monuments.. stuff not strictly needed for survival.. that was a key moment for me.. esp the impact this had in timeline.. suddenly no longer just tools to ie: fight/fish.. lots including org of over 150 people.. when get over that we can’t coord w trust..
perhaps until now.. now we have the means to get back/to legit trust.. which has nothing to do with dunbar\ish ness or numbers ness (measuring things ness) but rather with unconditional ness and the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness [‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]
lorenzo: i don’t know what you feel what you think
to me this is a cancerous distraction to legit trust.. ie: graeber can’t know law; graeber unpredictability/surprise law; et al
paul know\love law – pearson unconditional law – brown belonging law – maté trump law.. otherwise won’t get to root of problem and will keep perpetuating khan filling the gaps law et al
lorenzo: so need to start delegating group that takes care of every situation in society: defense, water, et al.. that leads to struggle in our collab.. which arrives from access to info.. we don’t know the other side.. so need to trust/depend on institution/decisions outside of my presence and start delegating a lot of things.. this created clusters of info w lot of power.. where a lot of people don’t know what decisions are
how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity/itch over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us..
otherwise not trust.. just judgement
lorenzo:
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more on lorenzo et al
via twitter @lorenzopatuzzo: Innovation obsessed, Socially involved, Human Focused Creative Mind. Eutopist. Founder @AKASHAworldBCN and @hubs_network_ . Serial dreamer @AKASHAworld Barcelona – Europe akasha.barcelona
from akasha.barcelona:
lorenzo – creative transdisciplinary and social entrepreneur
AKASHA HUB BARCELONA was born after a collaboration (and consequent alignment of Values and Vision) between AKASHA Foundation and Lorenzo Patuzzo.
Hence the name A.K.A.S.H.A. which stands for Advanced Knowledge Architecture for Social Human Action.
to me.. need non hierarchical listening for the dance
mufleh humanity law et al
findings from on the ground ness deep dive on why we need tech w/o judgment
ie: the dance won’t dance unless/until it’s 1\ all of us 2\ legit free
nothing to date (ever since that day) has gotten to that root of problem
legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do (ie: knowledge ness et al)
The word AKASHA( [aːkaːʃə], आकाश) also comes from Sanskrit and means “Ether” in the elementary and metaphysical sense.
Originally it was used to indicate a network of metaphysical information that connected humanity with itself and with infinite knowledge.
AKASHA Hub works to stimulate curiosity towards a social self-awareness, and generate willingness to start projects with the ability to create a coherent, sustainable, respectful and healthy environment.
how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity (itch) over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us..
ie: imagine if we listen to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)
the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness
[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]
We collaboratively organize face-to-face and online activities to share knowledge and points of view on all possible areas and in different depths, in order to have an overview and as complete as possible of the current state of humanity and its environment.
to me.. need global detox first.. otherwise just whalespeak aka: not legit curiosity/itch-in-the-soul
We investigate locally and globally how we do what we do (as a society), *what tools were, are and will be at our disposal. We also investigate issues and trends at the local level together with the actors involved to **prioritize the issues in a coherent and necessary way.
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance
**if want to be legit free.. if want to see legit us.. need to detoxify us from ie: hari present in society law.. from myth of normal (two books et al).. so need to let go of issue ness and try whatever ness for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition
otherwise we’ll keep perpetuating the same song.. the whac-a-mole-ing ness of sea world.. of not-us ness.. of part\ial ness.. perpetuating survival triage.. for (blank)’s sake..
We accompany the *conversations and **stimulate interactions between different participants, elaborations of the problems and a self-coordination of working groups to want to solve it. We share and provide tools for collaboration, self-management and project start-up in order to promote the creation of actions that ***bring us closer to the society we yearn for.
*convo we need most/1st: self-talk as data for the 2 conversations to be about non hierarchical listening and so.. why we need tech w/o judgment to facil that global detox leap
**if still stimulating ness et al.. not legit us/free/yearning
***yes that.. and/but for that..
we need a problem deep enough to resonate w/8b today.. via a mechanism simple enough to be accessible/usable to 8b today.. in an ecosystem open enough to set/keep 8b legit free
ie: org around a problem deep enough (aka: org around legit needs) to resonate w/8b today.. via a mechanism simple enough (aka: tech as it could be) to be accessible/usable to 8b today.. and an ecosystem open enough (aka: sans any form of m\a\p) to set/keep 8b legit free
We connect with local and interlocal people and entities in order to create a knowledge infrastructure that can be useful for the development of all activities.
We are a community that believes in continuous improvement, transparency, collaboration, and our independence as a symbol of resilience, intellectual freedom and action. That is why we prefer to generate our own economic income, in order to reinvest them in the project, in its infrastructure and in its community.
econ we need most: bachelard oikos law – sans any form of m\a\p
perhaps let’s try/code money (any form of measuring/accounting/people telling other people what to do) as the planned obsolescence.. where legit needs are met w/o money.. till people forget about measuring..ie: sabbatical ish transition
from @AKASHAworldBCN – We are a space for collaborative & social projects. Decentralized Social Media Network experiment. Future is to be built. Together.
from @hubs_network_ – News and knowledge by and for Hubs in the network and beyond, that collaboratively find open solutions for society. https://hubsnetwork.org/manifesto:
on hubsnetwork.org manifesto:
lorenzo on core team, roberto a contributor
For us Hubs are in real life spaces designed to spark innovation and shape the future of society. They bring people together to share ideas, collaborate freely, and develop creative solutions for social challenges.
to me.. if want legit free.. solution ness we need most needs to be about the root of problem
These real-world spaces foster open exchange and a pluralistic mindset, encouraging social innovation through collaboration. Hubs focus on building technologies, systems, and frameworks rooted in open-source principles, promoting sovereignty, privacy, and freedom as shared values
We are not identifying ourselves with any ideology or politics, in fact we don’t see ideas as identifiers, rather as expressions of humanity’s collective wisdom out of the Ether. Ideas that shape, change and freely expressed, discussed and created upon. We support Hubs that create a IRL space for ideas and humans to openly, freely explore different perspectives and apply gathered knowledge to new open solutions.
We believe everyone should be able to create and build the future they envision. We know freedom of mind, shared tools and knowledge are enabling this. We connect spaces that facilitate this, to recognize, combine and help create the value they represent.
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be you. 