the undiscovered self

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung

reading via Amy

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notes/quotes:

9/1

1 – the plight of the individual in modern society

13/5

(on stat method showing fact in light of avg.. but not pic of empirical reality ie: mean may not even be one of data) ..not to put too fine a point on it, one could say that the real picture consists of nothing but exceptions to the rule, and that, in consequence, absolute reality has predominantly the character of irregularity..t

antifragility

there is and can be no self knowledge based on theoretical assumptions, for the object of self knowledge is an individual – a relative exception and an irregular phenom..t

black science of people/whales ness

he is not to be understood as a recurrent unit but as something unique and singular which in the last analysis can neither be known nor compared with anything else..t

mona lisa compare law

at same time.. man.. as member of species.. can and must be described as a statistical unit; otherwise nothing general could be said about him.. for this purpose he has to be regarded as a comparative unit..

why does there have to be something in general..? other than maybe a and a..?

14/6

for this purpose he has to be regarded as a comparative unit. this results in a universally valid anthropology or psychology,.. w an abstract pic of man as an avg unit from which all individual features have been removed. but it is precisely these features which are of paramount importance for understanding man.. if i want to understand an individual human being, i must lay aside all sci knowledge of the avg man and discard all theories in order to adopt a completely new and unprejudiced attitude..t

understanding the individual obliges me to commit lese majeste, so to speak, to turn a blind eye to sci knowledge.. t..  this is a sacrifice not lightly made for the sci attitude cannot rid itself so easily of its sense of responsibility.

15/7

in principle.. the positive advantages of knowledge work specifically to the disadvantage of understanding.. t

16/8

under influence of sci assumptions, not only the psych but the individual man and, indeed, all individual events whatsoever suffer a leveling down and a process of blurring that distorts the pic of reality into a conceptual avg.. t.. we ought not to underestimate the psych effect of the stat world pic: it displaces the individual in favor of anonymous units that pile up into mass formations.. sci supplies us w, instead of he concrete individual, the names of orgs and, at the highest point, the abstract idea of the sate as the principle of political reality.. the moral responsibility of the individual is then inevitably replaced by the policy of the state.. instead of moral/mental differentiation of the individual, you have public welfare and the raising of the living standard,. the goal and meaning of individual life (which is the only real life) no longer lie in individual development but in the policy of the state, ..t.. which is thrust upon the individual from outside and consists in the execution of an abstract idea which ultimately tends to attract all life to itself..

stamped from beginning (in policy)

the individual is increasingly deprived of the moral decision as to how he should live his own life, and instead is ruled, fed, clothed and educated as a social unit,.. t..  accommodated in the appropriate housing unit,

krishnamurti how law

and amused in accordance w the standards that give pleasure and satisfactions to the masses..

supposed.. pleasures and satisfactions

17/9

the rulers, in their turn, are just as such social units as the ruled and are distinguished only by the fact that they are specialized mouthpieces of the state doctrine. they do not need to be personalities capable of judgment, but thoroughgoing specialists who are unusable outside their line of business.. state policy decides what shall be taught and studied..t

moten abolition law

wiley policy law

the seemingly omnipotent state doctrine is for its part manipulated in the name of state policy by those occupying the highest positions in the govt, where all the power is concentrated. whoever, by election or caprice, gets into one of these positions is no longer subservient to authority, for he is the state policy itself and w/in the limits of the situation can proceed at his own discretion.. he is thus the only individual or at any rate, one of the few individuals who could make use of their individuality if only they knew how to differentiate themselves from the state doctrine..t. they are more likely, however, to e the slaves of their own fictions. such one sidedness is always compensated psychologically by unconscious subversive tendencies..

voluntary compliance et al..

slavery and rebellion are inseparable correlates.

apart from agglomerations of huge masses of people, in which the individual disappears anyway, one of the chief factors responsible for psychological massmindedness is sci rationalism.. which robs the individual of his foundations and his dignity..  as a social unit he has lost his individuality and become a mere abstract number in the bureau of stats.. t

of math and men

looked at rationally and from outside, that is exactly what he is, and from this pov it seems positively absurd to go one talking about the value or meaning of the individual..

martin be bold law

18\10

if the individual, overwhelmed by the sense of his own puniness and impotence, should feel that his life has lost its meaning – which, after all, is not identical w public welfare and higher standards of living – then he is already on the road to state slavery and, w/o knowing or wanting it, has becomes its proselyte..t

pluralistic ignorance

19/11

that is what is happening today.. we are all fascinated and overawed by statistical truths and large numbers and are daily apprised of the nullity and futility of the individual personality.. since it is not rep’d and personified by any mass org.. t

begs self-talk as data

conversely, those personages who strut about on the world stage and whose voices are heard far and wide seem, to the uncritical public, to be borne along on some mass movement or on the tide of public opinion and for this reason are either applauded or execrated (loathed).. since mass suggestion plays the predominant role here, it remains a moot point whether their message is their own,..t..  for which they are personally responsible, or whether they merely function as a megaphone for the collective opinion..

under these circumstances it is small wonder that individual judgment grows increasingly uncertain of itself and that responsibility is collectivized as much as possible, ie, is shuffled off by the individual and delegated to a corp body.. in this way the individual becomes more and more a function of society, which in its turn usurps the function of the real life carrier, whereas, in actual fact, society is nothing more than an abstract idea like the state..t

both are hypostatized (treat or represent (something abstract) as a concrete reality.), that is, have become autonomous (acting independently or having the freedom to do so.. (in Kantian moral philosophy) acting in accordance with one’s moral duty rather than one’s desires… wonder which..? ).  the state in particular is turned into a quasi animate personality from whom everything is expected. in reality it is only a camouflage for those individuals who know how to manipulate it.. thus the constitutional state drifts into the situation of a primitive form of society, namely the communism of a primitive tribe where everybody is subject to the autocratic rule of a chief or an oligarchy..

2 – religion as the counterbalance to mass mindedness

21/13

in order to turn the individual into a function of the state, his dependence on anything beside the state must be taken from him..t

25/17

religion, as the careful observation and taking account of certain invisible and uncontrollable factors, is an instinctive attitude peculiar to man, and its manifestations can be followed all thru human history.. its evident purpose is to maintain the psychic balance, for the natural man has an equally natural ‘knowledge’ of the fact that his conscious functions may at any time be thwarted by uncontrollable happenings coming from inside as well as from outside..

already on each heart ness – but i wouldn’t call that religion.. i’d call it.. more.. relationship..or just .. heart makeup

26/18

*brass bands, flags, banners, parades and monster demos are not diff in principle from ecclesiastical procession, cannonades and fireworks to scare off demons.. only, the suggestive parade of state power engenders a collective feeling of security which, unlike religious demos, gives the individual no protection against his inner demonism.. hence he will **cling all the more to the power of the state, ie, ***to the mass, thus delivering himself up to it psychically as well as morally and putting the finishing touch to his social depotentiation..

whoa.. 1\ i see *both these ie’s as a disturbance to our ecosystem.. 2\ evidenced in the need to **cling to something.. 3\ sounds like ***maté trump law

the state, like the church, demands enthusiasm, self sacrifice and love, and if religion requires or presupposed the ‘fear f god’ then the dictator state takes good care to provide the necessary terror..

28/20

both the dictator state and denominational religion lay quite particular emphasis on the idea of community. this is the basic ideal of ‘communism’ and it is thrust down the throats of the people so much that it has the exact opposite of the desired effect: it inspires divisive mistrust..

29/21

the value of a community depends on the spiritual and moral stature of the individuals composing it.. such changes can come only from the personal encounter between man and man.. the inner man…

begs self-talk as data

3 – the position of the west on the question of religion

33/25

.. what can we do to counter this threat .. from the east.. we know that even the biggest guns and the heaviest industry w its relatively high living standard are not enough to check the psychic infection spread by religious fanaticism

gershenfeld sel

34/26

the churches.. are no longer based on their own inner experience but on unreflecting belief.. which is notoriously apt to disappear as soon as one begins thinking about it

the content of belief then comes into collision w knowledge, and it often turns out that the irrationality of the former is no match for the ratiocinations of the latter. belief is not adequate substitute for inner experience, and where this is absent even a strong faith which came miraculously as a gift of grace may depart equally miraculously, people call faith the true religious experience, but they do not stop to think that actually it is a secondary phenom arising from the fact that something happened to us in the first place which instilled πιστις (greek for faith) into us – that is trust and loyalty

36/28

anyone who has once learned to submit absolutely to a collective belief and to renounce his eternal *right to freedom and the equally eternal **duty of individual responsibility will persist in this attitude.. and will be able to set out w the same credulity and the same lack of criticism in the reverse direction if another and manifestly ‘better’ belief is foisted upon his alleged idealism..

*right and **duty.. ness.. as disturbance to our ecosystem

we accuse the germans of having forgotten it all again already.. but the truth is that we don’t know for certain whether something similar might not happen elsewhere..  it would not be surprising if it did and if another *civilized nation succumbed to the infection of a uniform and one sided idea.. america.. which forms the real political backbone of western europe, seems to be immune because of the outspoken counterposition she has adopted, but in point of fact she is perhaps even more vulnerable than europe, since her ed system is the most influenced by the sci weltanschauung.. with its **statistical truths, and her mixed population finds it difficult to strike roots in a soil that is practically w/o ***history.. the historical and humanistic type of ed so sorely needed.. leads.. on the contrary, a cinderalla existence. though europe possesses this later requirement, she uses it to her own undoing in form of nationalistic egoisms and paralysing skepticisms.. common to both is the materialistic and collectivist goal, and both lack the very thing that expresses and grips the whole man, namely and idea which puts the individual human being in the ****center as the measure of all things

*civilization ness as disturbance to our ecosystem

**of math and men

***stamped from beginning

****not in the center.. and not to measure.. rather.. to listen in love

37/29

in this reality man is the slave and victim of the machines that have conquered space and time for him..t

rowson mechanical law

38/30

all his achievements and possessions do not make him bigger; on the contrary, they diminish him, as the fate of the factory worker under the rule of a ‘just’ distribution of goods clearly demos..

achievements.. possessions..

4 – the individual’s understanding of himself

39/31

man is an enigma to himself..  this is understandable seeing he lacks the means of comparison necessary for self knowledge..

? if so.. then i’d bag knowledge.. either way.. comparison drives us away from self knowledge

he knows how to *distinguish himself from other animals in point of anatomy and physiology, but as a conscious, reflecting being, gifted w **speech, he lacks all criteria for self ***judgment..

*i don’t know about that..

perhaps ***judgment is disturbance.. and if not.. i wouldn’t imagine it would come from **speech/words.. et al

he is on this planet a unique phenom which he cannot compare w anything else..

compare as disturbance

mona lisa compare law

40\32

the possibility of comparison and hence of self knowledge would arise only if he could establish relations w quasi human mammals inhabiting other stars

so.. thinking we need judgment.. knowledge.. perhaps as disturbance .. comparison definitely is..

ie: what is the purpose of judgment..?

he cannot know himself and therefore remains a mystery to himself..

sounds to me like a distinction between having and being/grokking knowledge.. ie: if you have knowledge.. you’re/it’s dead.. you’ve killed it with the defn of it.. if you’re being/grokking.. it’s ongoingly spontaneously everychanging

41/33

consciousness is a preconidtion of being…

but not judgment.. or comparison.. or knowledge..

46/38

he (dr) knows very well that the preaching of even the worthiest precepts only provokes the patient into open hostility or a secret resistance and thus needlessly endanger the aim of the treatment

supposed to ness

47/39

unless he stands firmly on his own feet, the so called objective values profit him nothing.. since they then only serve as a substitute for character and so help to suppress his individuality…

insofar as society itself is composed of de individualized persons, it is completely at the mercy of ruthless individualists.. a million zeros joined together do not add up to one..t

one-ness/eudaimoniative-surplus ness..  via gershenfeld sel

zinn energy law

thurman alive law

48/40

our blindness in this respect is extremely dangerous..

if the individual is not truly regenerated in spirit, society cannot be either..t

thurman alive law

zinn energy law

49/41

it is time we asked ourselves exactly what we are lumping together in mass organizations and what constitutes the nature of the individual human being, ie, of the real man and not the statistical man.. this is hardly possible except thru a new process of self nourishment..t

self-talk as data

52/44

i am convinced that it is not christianity, but our conception and interpretation of it, that has become antiquated in the face of the present world situation.. this req’s a very diff attitude towards the individual.. from the one we have had hitherto.. that is why nobody knows what ways of approach are open to man..

black science law.. blocking us from us.. from a nother way

53/45

that his teachers have themselves gone seriously astray by making false comparisons between incommensurable factors never enters his head..t

or.. that comparing and measuring are not us.. rather.. disturbances

57/49

instinct is anything but a blind and indefinite impulse, since it proves to be attuned and adapted to a definite external situation.. this latter circumstance gives it its specific and irreducible form..

5 – the philosophical and the psychological approach to life

62/54

no one seems to notice that the veneration (reverence) of the word, which was necessary for a certain phase of historical development, has a perilous shadow side..  that is to say, the moment the word, as a result of centuries of ed .. attains universal validity, it severs its original link w the divine person..  there is a then a personified church, a personified stated; belief in the word becomes credulity, and the word itself an infernal slogan capable of any deception..  w credulity come propaganda and advertising to dupe the citizen w political jobbery and compromise, and the lie reaches proportions never known before in the history of the world..

beyond words ness

63/55

thus the word, originally announcing the unity of all men and their union in the figure of the one great man, has in our day become the source of suspicion and distrust of all against all.. credulity (a tendency to be too ready to believe that something is real or true) is one of our worst enemies..  people think you have only to ‘tell’ a person that he ‘ought’ to do something in order to put him on the right track..

supposed to’s

64/56

in the animals, as a result of their learning capacity, instinct undergoes numerous modifications and differentiations; in civilized man the instincts are so split up that only a few of the basic ones can be recognized w any certainty in their original form..

civilization ness.. not us .. holmgren indigenous law

65/57

the question of human instinct is a far from simple matter, we shall probably not be wrong in assuming that the learning capacity, a quality almost exclusive to man, is based on the instinct for imitation found in animals..

nothing estranges man more from the ground plan of his instincts than his learning capacity.. it more than anything else, is responsible for the altered conditions of our existence and the need for new adaptations which civilization brings.. it is also the source of numerous psychic disturbances and difficulties occasioned by man’s progressive alienation from his instinctual foundation .. ie.. by his uprootedness and identification w his conscious knowledge of himself..  by his concern w consciousness at the expense of the unconscious..

his consciousness therefore orients itself chiefly by observing and investigating the world around him, and it is to its peculiarities that he must adapt his psychic and technical resources.. this task is so exacting and its fulfillment so advantageous that he forgets himself in the process, losing sight of his instinctual nature.. and putting his own conception of himself in place of his real being..  in this way he slips imperceptibly into a purely conceptual world where the products of his conscious activity progressively replace reality..

66/58

western man is in danger of losing his shadow (person in us grounded in instinctual nature) altogether, of identifying himself w his fictive personality and of identifying the world w the abstract picture painted by sci rationalism..

67/59

violation or neglect of instinct has painful consequences of a physiological and psychological nature for whose removal medical help, above all, is required..

wilde not us law

68\60

we do not think of distrusting our motives or of asking ourselves how the inner man feels about the things we do in the outside world..  but actually it is frivolous, superficial and unreasonable of us, as well as psychically unhygienic, to overlook the  reaction and standpoint of the unconscious..

virtually everything depends on the human soul and its functions.. it should be worthy of all the attention we can give it.. esp today, when everyone admits that the weal /woe of the future will be decided neither by attacks of wild animals nor by natural catastrophes nor by danger of world wide epidemics but simply and solely by the psychic changes in man..t

self-talk as data

zinn energy law

it needs only an almost imperceptible disturbance of equilibrium in a few of our rulers’ heads to plunge the world into blood, fire and radioactivity..

69\61

the more power man had over nature, the more his knowledge and skill went to his head, the deeper became his contempt for the merely natural and accidental, for that which is irrationally given – including the objective psyche, which is all that consciousness is not..

in contrast to the subjectivism of the conscious mind the unconscious is objective,

70

the seat of faith however is not consciousness but spontaneous religious experience, which brings the individual’s faith into immediate relation w god

fromm spontaneous law

here we must ask: have i a religious experience and immediate relation to god, and hence that certainty which well keep me, as an individual, from dissolving in the crowd..

batra hide in public law

6 – self knowledge

74/66

the discrepancy between intellect and feeling, which get in each other’s way at the best of times, is a particularly painful chapter in the history of the human psyche..

78/70

as his consciousness has broadened and differentiated, so his moral nature has lagged behind. that is the great problem before us today. reason alone does not suffice..t

mufleh humanity law

chomsky serious things law

79/71

fear of the evil which one does not see in one’s own bosom but always in somebody else’s checks reason every time..

if a world wide consciousness could arise that all division and all antagonism are due to the splitting of opposites in the psyche, then one would really know where to attack..

if even the smallest and most personal stirrings of the individual soul – so insignificant tin themselves – remain as unconscious and unrecognized as they have hitherto, they will go on accumulating and produce mass groupings and mass movements which cannot be subjected to reasonable control or manipulated to a good end..

80/72

it is in the nature of the political bodies always to see the evil in the opposite group, just as the individual has an ineradicable tendency to get rid of everything he does not know and does not want to know about himself by foisting it off on somebody else..

the more unrelated individuals are, the more consolidated the state becomes, and vice versa..

81/73

a human relationship is not based on differentiation and perfection, for these only emphasize the differences or call forth the exact opposite; it is based rather, on imperfection, on what is weak, helpless and in need of support – the very ground and motive of dependence.. the perfect has no need of the other.. but weakness has, for it seeks support and does not confront its partner w anything that might force him into an inferior position and even humiliate him .. this humiliation might happen only too easily where idealism plays too prominent a role..

interdependence

82/74

wherever justice is uncertain and police spying and terror are at work.. human beings fall into isolation, which, of course, is the aim and purpose of the dictator state, since it is based on the greatest possible accumulation of depotentiated social units.. t.. to counter this danger.. the free society needs a bond of an affective nature.. love your neighbor..  but it is just this love for one’s fellow man that suffers most of all from the lack of understanding wrought by projection..  it would therefore be very much in the interest of the free society to give some thought to he question of human relationship from the psychological pov, for in this resides its real cohesion and consequently its strength. were love stops, power begins, and violence and terror..t

love is the movement.. no fear in love..

i do not know which is weaker: idealism or the insight of the public..

public consensus always oppresses someone(s)

7 – the meaning of self knowledge

83/75

the very fact that thru self knowledge, ie, by exploring our own souls, we come upon the instincts and their world of imagery should throw some light on the powers slumbering in the psyche, of which we are seldom aware so long as all goes well.. they are potentialities of the greatest dynamism, and it depends entirely on the preparedness and attitude of the conscious mind whether the irruption of these forces and the images and ideas associate w them will tend towards construction or catastrophe..

84/76

for this exacting work the psychologist requires all his patience; he may not rely on any traditional ‘oughts’s’ and ‘musts’s’ leaving the other person to make all the effort and contenting himself w the easy role of adviser and admonisher..

nothing has happened at all unless the individual changes..

be you

the effect on all individuals, which one would like to see realized, may not set in for hundreds of years, for the spiritual transformation of mankind follows the slow treaty of the centuries and cannot be hurried or held up by an y rational process of reflection..let alone brought to fruition in one generation..

i don’t buy that.. back then.. yeah.. but now we have the means to ground the chaos of 7bn truly free people.. so now.. we could leap there..

as it could be..

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

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(@umairh) tweeted at 5:31 AM – 13 Jun 2018 :
Another giant leap in the construction of a genuinely fascist state, “denaturalization”, or the removal of personhood https://t.co/pZiD4TFvIM(http://twitter.com/umairh/status/1006861531974430721?s=17)

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