jonathan on metacrisis
jonathan rowson – LIVING IN THE METACRISIS with Jonathan Rowson – 33 min video – oct 2023 – @Jonathan_Rowson
via michel bauwens tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1715856071657697371]:
The Civilization Research Institute distinguishes ‘metacrisis’ from ‘polycrisis’; with the former hinting at a common logic to the various crisis. Jonathan Rowson explains: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjOQB608ylQ]
notes/quotes:
1 min – meta crisis is about all the crises.. how do humans deal with this.. between a time between 2 worlds (zac stein).. intellectual function not succeeding anymore in making sense of world
if ever
2 min – metacrisis is your daily experience of the world falling apart.. of how weird things are becoming
3 min – metacrisis is way you make sense of world.. you incapacity to rate self in context of this.. time of christ was a metacrisis.. everyone totally confused.. distinct about today: we’re destroying our only hope.. the planet as being habitat for human life.. ie: atomic weapons that can cause mass destruction
5 min – problem with crisis framing.. still a problem/solution mentality.. metacrisis is very slow process of transformation
7 min – what does a transformative response to collapse look like
8 min – everything falling apart.. and yet go to store and buy milk as if everything normal.. that’s part of the metacrisis too.. a clamouring to get normal back
9 min – there’s a kind of notion that make due and mend is enough.. but many don’t feel that in their hearts
we need a problem deep enough to resonate w/8bn today.. a mechanism simple enough to be accessible/usable to 8bn today.. and an ecosystem open enough to set/keep 8bn legit free
ie: org around a problem deep enough (aka: org around legit needs) to resonate w/8bn today.. via a mechanism simple enough (aka: tech as it could be) to be accessible/usable to 8bn today.. and an ecosystem open enough (aka: sans any form of m\a\p) to set/keep 8bn legit free
10 min – most people feel something deeper is going on.. so we look to history to see.. what is this like
well.. no legit transform to date.. all of history ness (as he has listed) is actually just same song
12 min – when people ask me what i’m doing.. and they’re working on govt.. you can do that.. but i think something all together deeper is happening.. i place more hope in a fundamental transformation of consciousness.. than i do with dealing with things with institutional/cultural structure we have now..t
need 1st/most: means (nonjudgmental expo labeling) to undo hierarchical listening as global detox so we can org around legit needs
zac stein – between 2 worlds.. his book ed in time between 2 worlds
13 min – to be in the liminal.. don’t belong to world as it is now though still part of it.. yet still not another thing
14 min – world systems – on trade flow.. et al.. measuring income ineq.. so an empirical underpinning to this liminality
need a nother way.. sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
15 min – people not clear about future.. metamodern.. orientation to future is big part of what modernity is about..
16 min – and there are well springs of renewal.. ie: joe brewer working on biohouse.. via rivers..
cosmolocalism – wise about production patterns.. focus locally on needs yet connected to bigger framework
17 min – bayo akomolafe: ontological mutiny.. need to break out of collective illusion .. mensh: collectively living what no longer exists.. bonnitta roy: complex potential states.. intuiting potentials.. go with the energy.. so not as if no ideas.. but at scale.. who has the power is daunting.. takes a lot of courage to not fall into dispair
bayo akomolafe.. bonnitta roy..
18 min – stages: pre tragic (nothing wrong), tragic (everything bad), post tragic (recognize suffering pain are feature of life.. no eden.. still wars et al.. yet don’t collapse in dispair.. not your responsibility to take care of that.. rather rediscover beauty on other side of suffering)
21 min – at scale things are so bad we have to rethink.. comes into structures of mind
rather.. need to let go of thinking ness
intellectness as cancerous distraction we can’t seem to let go of.. there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. to facil a legit global detox leap.. for (blank)’s sake.. and we’re missing it
looking w/in and beyond is the meta we have to do.. so we don’t have to solve emotional needs by buying something new
almaas holes law.. missing pieces.. khan filling the gaps law.. hari present in society law
22 min – need view of world more enchanted/personal.. but it’s not like anything goes .. that you surrender your intellect..t
well yeah perhaps it is.. and that’s why we still have not yet gotten to global equity.. we won’t ever get to the legit enchanted ness of the dance if we don’t tap into the seeming chaos of that unconditionality
and now have means to facil that
24 min – can’t ever know.. so stick with norm ness or venture out.. i go for latter.. but i think it’s delicate.. i’m very happy for sanity/reason.. but i feel world is much more than we are led to believe..
black science of people/whales law
25 min – a relationship between whole and part that are constantly happening.. have to widen the scope of the inquiry
rather again.. let go of all that. and try curiosity over decision making.. itch-in-the-soul
26 min – getting beyond crisis mode.. people i’m drawn to aren’t focused on crisis.. but prefigure next world.. t
wish we cold talk.. ie: sabbatical ish transition
hari rat park law et al
28 min – where is the scope to do things fundamentally differently in a transformative way.. t
at level of itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday as data to connect us
infinitesimal structures approaching the limit of structureless\ness and/or vice versa .. aka: ginorm/small ness
how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us.. ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition
need means (nonjudgmental expo labeling) to undo hierarchical listening as global detox so we can org around legit needs
ie’s: creating pop up school.. state to bio region.. et al
29 min – there’s a place where carl jung’s idea of individuation meets elinor ostrom’s idea of the functional commons.. the collective action solutions.. a collective individuation.. distinction between i and we break down.. very notion of individual is collective and vice versa.. to get there.. have to tune into something more cosmic.. what you’re meant to be doing.. t
rather.. what you can’t not do
imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness as nonjudgmental expo labeling)
30 min – look at what world appears to need and what you have to offer it
that’s still the problem/solution mindset
31 min – hope lies in people tending to everyday life.. i’m growing out of mapping problem and fixing it
not a big grand plan but trusting in small groups.. need more people turning away from drama of global situation toward spiritual calling of work they have to do.. but in a way that is deeply informed by need to generate a new reality
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