intro’d to Jonathan via this interview w Jordan..
livestream jan 15 2018
Twelve Rules for Life | Jordan Peterson | RSA Replay
with Jonathan Rowson @Jonathan_Rowson
11 min – diff between a center and the center.. that’s diff between sanity and insanity
i found the alt to group belief.. was the continual transformation of belief.. continual quest (itself)
bravery to change mind everyday
14 min – we are adapted to the group.. but we are simultaneously.. the revitalizers of the group.. even complex animals aren’t that.. so necessary for our social structures to reflect that.. or we do the wrong thing.. ie: put group before the individual
18 min – activists.. act like they care about big system.. idea is that you should clear yourself out first
20 min – cleaning your own room.. takes way more than you think
21 min – you risk inflating your own ego attempting problems of the world
22 min – realize that you are lacking and will make big systemic worse.. attend to your own competence/limits
23 min – on a 12 yr old (actually talking to 18 yr old).. you don’t have any responsibility.. you don’t have a degree.. you can’t think.. don’t know how to present self.. so shouldn’t change socio econ of structure..
wow.. that’s exactly what we need.. all you listed was toxic.. i’d rather talk to a 5 yr old
26 min -your bedroom is a microcosm of the planet
boyan slat a model for young people.. cleaning ocean in 5 yrs.. and going to make a profit.. not telling people what’s wrong (protest).. i’m going to go out and fix it..
28 min – you cannot fix a complex system unless you understand it..
(jonathan): the language of fixing is not helpful here.. because it’s not a mechanical problem..t
29 min – it’s compassion masking uselessness most of the time
(jonathan): someone says.. you don’t have sociological imagination.. no view of diff world and how to get there.. how to get people to not believe that..
have them read the book
man.. talk about ego.. humility.. yeah
34 min – we have to org society in ways people want to play.. and game can’t degenerate
35 min – you lay out a better game
(jonathan): which is
well that’s what this is all about
38 min – it’s just so hard to conduct yourself right now in a way that’s going to improve yourself in a week.. there aren’t that many pathways.. may be just one game like that.. but
dec 1 2017 – perspective – systems/souls/societies
The Hidden Curriculum of the 21st Century We often hear that we should ‘be the change we want to see in the world’ and that ‘the personal is political’. But what do such ideas really mean, and what follows for what we should, you know, do?
many people are working on political.. and many are working on inner.. but these two world’s don’t connect very often.. i want to make that more mainstream..
got to be able to speak 1\ of the spirit and 2\ language of capital/power.. as part of the same language.. tried before.. this is not new.. but it’s neglected.. ie: ghandi and mlk..many ie’s of people combining personal and political.. how do you make this the norm.. for that.. you need an org vessel.. have events..books.. that’s a 100 yr project.. the point is to commit seriously for the long term..
? why can’t we just model it…
14 min – shoring up the liberal order is the mainstream curriculum.. i don’t buy that anymore.. i don’t think we can shore up.. i think we need to try something new.. not a revolution.. plan e..
the crisis we face is not just a litany of problems.. ie: the problem w saying everything is going to hell.. is that half the people don’t buy it.. because some things better..
why a crisis.. 6 e’s: economic (underlying logic not working anymore); ecological (new term – nuclear hurricanes); [politics often stay w/in those two realms] ethically; epistemic (shared sense of what is true); emotional (how to feel.. gap between instincts w actual issues of day); existential (meaning of life)
plan e.. what would a world look like when understand those e’s coming together..
cv – course of my life.. how do we adapt/survive/transform/do-something-purposeful.. but hidden curriculum is partly waking up.. spiritually and politically.. the fact that we’re on auto pilot all the time..
21 min – growing up.. decide what is worth living for
22 min – wising up.. shaping of society thru institutions and cultural forms.. we create that together.. but we haven’t figured out how to do that yet.. if we can find capacity to look more deeply to selves/world..
we need a new operating system of fixed econ.. a new social logic.. where will that come from.. social imaginary.. and how do we trust that what we create together be good..?
those are grand aims.. and that’s why it’s a 100 yr project.. and that’s what perspectiva is all about.. not optimistic/pessimistic.. rather realistic
rsa jan 2015 – on spirituality
4 min – 1\ we’re on auto pilot virtually all of the time.. we’re almost built to put ourselves to sleep.. in that sense.. waking up make sense
5 min – 2\ we live in two diff worlds most of the time 1\ analytical.. 2\ holistic.. much of our culture is moving toward this obsession w measurement..
6 min – 3\ we live in our bodies
4\ we live w other people
7 min – we find what matters changes.. we find our status matters less than our sense of being alive
ontological rootedness.. love of belonging..
love, death, reorient us
self (problematic.. when slow down.. see that you are chattering all the time).. and soul (no self.. soul has been forgotten).. it’s not easy to bring back soul into public language.. but we all kind of feel it.. we know soul when we see it.. don’t let fact that it isn’t clear and contested and lacking institutional roots.. don’t let that stop us talking things that matter most in our lives..t
story about people grokking what matters
Jonathan Rowson (@Jonathan_Rowson) tweeted at 3:11 PM – 21 Jun 2018 :
I learned a lot from trying to form a view. Overall I am disappointed by Peterson, because he doesn’t offer answers for society as a whole. But I’m even more disappointed in those who reject him based on social media fragments, without taking time to understand his worldview. (http://twitter.com/Jonathan_Rowson/status/1009906746620563458?s=17)
his book spiritualise:
No single story of how things should be makes sense anymore, unless it is a story of stories. Therein lies the renewal of hope for our world.
on people page:
Dr. Jonathan Rowson is co-founder and Director of Perspectiva. He was until recently Director of the Social Brain Centre at the RSA where, over the course of six years, he authored a range of influential research reports on behaviour change, climate change and spirituality, and curated and chaired a range of related events.
Indy Johar – advisor
Jonathan Rowson (born 18 April 1977) is a Scottish chess grandmaster and author. He is a three-time Scottish Chess Champion and the No. 1 ranked Scottish player as of October 2017.
Dr Jonathan Rowson is Director of the Social Brain Centre at the RSA. After degrees spanning a range of social science disciplines from Oxford and Harvard, Jonathan’s Doctoral research at the University of Bristol featured an analysis of the challenge of overcoming the psycho-social constraints that prevent people becoming ‘wiser’. He writes for The Guardian’s Behavioural Insights Blog, was formerly a columnist for the Herald newspaper, has authored three books.