tristan at nobel summit
tristan harris on humane tech ness
(jun 2 2023) I’m not afraid. You’re afraid | Tristan Harris | Nobel Prize Summit 2023 – 15 min video – [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVBp2XjWsg]:
thought-provoking talk by technology ethicist Tristan Harris, on the race between technology creators and our regulation on AI and our ever-increasing addiction to social media. Harris proposes that when we are creating this technology, we need to look further than blaming big tech on providing platforms for disinformation but balance the power of creation of technologies with our responsibility to govern and understand it.
About Nobel Prize Summit 2023: How can we build trust in truth, facts and scientific evidence so that we can create a hopeful future for all? Misinformation is eroding our trust in science and runs the risk of becoming one of the greatest threats to our society today. This year’s Nobel Prize Summit which brought together laureates, leading experts and the public in a conversation on how we can combat misinformation, restore trust in science and create a hopeful future.
notes/quotes from video:
3 min – climate change of culture.. if just had good info.. still have a loneliness crisis.. people are by screens scrolling by self.. missing belonging dynamics.. important because about to enter 2nd contact w ai.. large language models.. we haven’t really fixed this first mis alignment.. seemed we were aligned.. stories we were telling ourselves were true.. but hid what underlies.. the race to max engagement.. how much have you paid for accounts? youtube, fb, .. then how are they worth trillion dollars?.. data.. but also selling your attention..
4 min – not enough just to get your attention.. but to get you addicted to getting attention from other people.. is more profitable than someone who doesn’t care about attention from other people..
always been this way.. wilde not-us law and people telling other people what to do et al
5 min – design decisions led to creation of button that instantly retweets/reshares quickly is good at creating attention addicts.. race to who can inflate your ego..
6 min – diff between mod and extreme voices.. extreme goes more viral.. even though small % of pop.. then run society thru that fun house mirror for 10 yrs.. end up; w very distorted world
already distorted enough.. such that added degrees of distortion are irrelevant s.. and only serving as scare tactics to keep us swimming in cancerous distraction.. this talk is a good ie of that.. tristan trying to do great things.. appears to be hitting the deep issues.. but missing deeper issues..
7 min – if that’s the assymetry we’ve granted to every power.. we’ve been living in this funhouse.. should listen to talk about ai dilemma
8 min – *what’s solution to this problem.. need to get good at is recognizing that the complexity of our problems has exceeded the institutions.. complexity of world going up.. **pandemic, debt crisis, climate.. ***simutaneously ability to respond to that complexity.. ****our brains and institutions.. reps humanity’s ability to respond to complexity fo problems..
*nah.. need to recognize **those are all those are all symptoms.. not complexity of problem (meaning they distract from problem rather than solve it)
***ie that responding ness creates wack a mole ness.. not solutions
****oi.. good thing that’s not true.. and coming from humane guy.. oi.. our essence (and our ability to recover/restore) has nothing to do with brains ness and institutions ness..
9 min – but what is run away tech adding to this.. it steepens the curve at the complexity.. we’re often thinking too narrowly.. content moderation and fact checking.. when really it’s about how do we have wisdom.. brains, institutions, social fabric match speed/complexity of modern tech and social systems
nah.. it’s about detoxing us so that we quit obsessing with all this knowing ness.. and because we’re all so intoxicated.. need ai as nonjudgmental expo labeling.. tech w/o judgment via expo speed to label(s) match us via curiosity (itch-in-the-soul).. otherwise we’ll keep spinning our wheels in same song of people telling other people what to do.. of all the forms of m\a\p
10 min – think about it.. if your immune system has slower evolution pace than virus.. virus wins.. *our immune system are our institutions.. our governance.. our regs.. **that’s why we have to upgrade those institutions.. this means the ***sense/choice making of humanity.. both individually and our reg terms.. how institutions act.. has to match the complexity of the world.. ****i wanted to reframe what we’re here to do.. which is also to say ..in addition to dealing w info ecosystem.. we need an info ecosystem that is *****collapsing these lines together w equality of our sense/choice making matches the complexity of choices that we face
*oh my.. no.. those are our cancerous distractions.. those are part of the virus.. oi
**upgrading them is perpetuating the cancer/virus ness..
***we have no idea what legit free people are like.. so we assume life would be about sense/choice making.. when .. that’s part of the problem/perpetuation/cancer.. decision making is unmooring us law.. finite set of choices is killing us.. keeping us preoccupied with the cancerous distractions
****interestingly ironic.. nobel says need content mod.. you’re saying deeper than that.. but what you’re suggesting is just a diff flavor of content mod.. until we legit change the content.. ie: to self-talk as data.. still just doing same song..superficial.. content mod
*****both sides you’re suggesting we align.. are same song.. both sides are cancerous distractions (choices are limiting/perpetuating false/symptomatic complexities et al)
one way of saying that is that we need to embrace our paleolithic brains.. upgrade our medieval institutions.. and bind the race dynamics of the god like tech
to me.. need to embrace itch-in-the-soul.. let go of any form of m\a\p.. so that we can unleash expo powers of tech ie: ai as nonjudgmental expo labeling
11 min – ie’s of this.. embrace brains – confirmation bias (tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one’s prior beliefs or values), social rewards.. belonging.. *that is embracing what it is to be human.. center for humane tech named as such .. because my co founder aza’s father was inventor of the macintosh project at apple.. he wrote a book called the humane interface.. **the word humane means having an honest reflective view in the mirror of how does our brains really work.. how he came up with macintosh.. w mouse .. icons.. et al.. a much more human interface.. because ***it embraced how we really work on the inside.. but ****now what we need to do is apply those kinds of insights to: our brains have confirmation bias; we need to feel belonging reather than loneliness.. *****so how would tech embrace these aspects of what it means to be human and design in a richer way
*we have no idea what it is to be legit free humans.. black science of people/whales law et al.. ie: not about reward/confirm ness.. not about belonging ness as we assume it to be.. (rather.. brown belonging law: the opposite of belonging.. is fitting in.. true belonging doesn’t require you to change who you are.. it requires you to be who you are.. and that’s vulnerable.. –Brené Brown)
**to me.. humane ness has nothing to do with how brain works.. rather.. about listening to itch-in-the-soul.. listening to heart.. sans any form of m\a\p
***rather.. how whales in sea world work on inside.. oi
****and that’s how the cancerous distractions.. keep on.. by perpetuating those kinds of insights.. that whalespeak
need 1st/most: means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature ie: tech as it could be
because even as we can’t here anyone’s legit heart anyway.. (need global detox first).. we don’t even hear each other unless we have power/money/extreme-viral-verbiage.. et al..
*****this is ie of how we keep playing wack a mole.. we keep not letting go of ‘these aspects.. these insights’ .. that are really just diff forms of whalespeak.. we need to listen for diff aspects of what it means to be human.. and org around those legit needs
ie: a nother way
if we only had devices/means to hear/be that..
oh.. we do.. and we’re missing it.. for (blank)’s sake
12 min – if we were to get rid of the engagement based business models that sell our ads.. fb could be ranked .. instead of which content should i show you.. *it could be ranked with what are diff things i can do w diff communities around my physical environ.. they could be supercharging the reinstantiation and reflowering of the social fabric.. instead of showcasing virtual fb groups.. they could be **showcasing actual physical communities that people could spend time w each other.. because as people found out.. when you spend physical time with people face to face it automatically has human properties.. there’s ***building trust.. building connection
*still same song.. still people telling other people what to do.. still invited vs invented ness..
need 1st/most: means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature as global detox/re\set.. so we can org around legit needs
imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness as nonjudgmental expo labeling)
**yeah.. imagine if we ness to find your people.. locally.. and new everyday.. huge.. but if we are showcasing gatherings in a space.. w/o first listening to itch-in-8b-souls for data to connect us (not to mention if our focus is showcasing/observing anything).. it will be same song.. same perpetuation of cancerous distractions
**to me.. big part of our assumption problem.. i don’t think you build either of those.. unconditional ..otherwise.. not legit trust.. not legit connection
upgrading our medieval institutions.. one of the limits of our institutions right now is they deal w acute/discrete harms.. this product hurt this person.. but it *doesn’t deal w diffuse chronic and long term cumulative harms.. think climate change.. forever chemicals in our atmosphere.. climate change of culture.. slow rolling increases of mental health issues.. addiction/loneliness..
*rather.. go the deepest.. the since forever est.. that we all need to get out of sea world .. first
hari rat park law et al
(3 of 3 in a people experiment) an ecosystem open enough (aka: sans any form of m\a\p) to set/keep 8bn legit free
13 min – we need institutions that deal w those long term cumulative diffuse issues.. rather than just the acute issues.. liability for ie is something we need for ai co’s that’s coming down the pipe.. but liability only deals w acute issue.. like someone died while using a car/product
(1 of 3) org around a problem deep enough (aka: org around legit needs) to resonate w/8bn today..
and in terms of binding our god like tech.. we need to actually recognize when there’s a race.. if i don’t do it i lose to the guy that will.. if i don’t use social media for my non profit to try to boost influence.. i’ll lose to others.. so because a race to create this virtual influence online.. if i don’t deploy open ai to as many people as possible.. and deploy it into snapchat.. because now every kid on snapchat has a my ai bot at the top.. a friend who will always answer your questions.. will always be there when other friends go to bed at 10pm.. snapchat wins vs other co’s don’t.. so as deploying this godlike tech.. need to recognize.. not be upset at bad guys/ceos.. but *get upset at bad games/races.. that would be another form of upgrading our instittuions
(2 of 3) via a mechanism simple enough (aka: tech as it could be; ai as nonjudgmental expo labeling) to be accessible/usable to 8bn today..
14 min – to close.. quote: can’t have power of gods w/o wisdom/love/prudence of gods – dnaiel schmachenberger.. if more power.. by defn means you’re going to be creating effects in society you can’t see.. more power than awareness of affects.. ie: bio safety level for lab.. we are now inventing bio safety level 10 capabilities.. but **haven’t even invented what bio safety level 10 practices would need to be
*daniel schmachtenberger.. daniel on expo tech et al
**well.. just can’t hear it.. ie: gershenfeld something else law et al
15 min – one of the hardest things i think humanity is going to have to do in looking in the mirror is thinking about ..how do we bind/limit the power we’re handing out to the appropriate level of wisdom/responsibility.. the biggest mistake we made w social media was *handing out godlike powers of instant resharing to everyone.. which can be very helpful in certain cases.. but it’s helpful specifically because it’s **bound to wisdom when it’s going well.. when not going well it’s when that power is not boudn to wisdom
*is this why twitter now has rate limited ness? .. only can post/read more if you pay.. if so.. and even if not so.. we’re so messed up
**nothing to date been bound to legit widsom
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tweet for when/if i can tweet again
so how would tech embrace these aspects of what it means to be human and design in a richer way’ @tristanharris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVBp2XjWsg
ie of how we keep playing wack a mole: ‘these aspects/insights’ not legit
need tech as nonjudgmental expo labeling so we can legit hear us
finally got to tweet.. but automatically said i’d reached rate limited again.. oi
also sent him fb and twitter dms:
wish there was a way you could hear me.. about tech/ai as nonjudgmental expo labeling.. so we could legit hear all of us
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