link facebook

back in 2009 ish.. when we had a fairly functional moodle and ning (for being w/in district.. and w/in highschool math).. i asked the kids where they’d rather host things.. they said fb.. not being on fb myself.. i was a bit.. well .. out of my element (which is the best place to be perhaps).. so in listening to them.. that’s where we went

had been not doc ing or using the social network and/or Mark Zuckerberg as doc pages.. adding this page this day (john)

John Battelle (@johnbattelle) tweeted at 5:53 AM – 22 Jan 2018 :

Facebook begins a dialog on its “Hard Questions” blog. But is it enough? Feels like… I dunno. Read for yourself. I’ll write about it later. https://t.co/hnWV38zZDG (http://twitter.com/johnbattelle/status/955423286497865734?s=17)

By Katie Harbath, Global Politics and Government Outreach Director

Now, we’re as determined as ever to fight the negative influences and ensure that our platform is unquestionably a source for democratic good. .. Our role is to ensure that the good outweighs the forces that can compromise healthy discourse.

perhaps only way.. if everyone has something else to do.. gershenfeld sel

That’s the subject that these essays address. We begin with a perspective from Samidh Chakrabarti, who leads Facebook’s civic engagement team. .. Among our writers is Harvard professor and author Cass Sunstein; Toomas Hendrik Ilves, the former president of Estonia and social media scholar; and Ariadne Vromen, a professor of political participation at the University of Sydney. We begin with Sunstein and will publish the others in subsequent days.

We hope that this collection of pieces gives you some perspectives you may not have thought of before and sparks a discussion. We welcome your views and encourage you to share them in the comments or email us at hardquestions@fb.com.


reading your hard questions post [https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/01/hard-questions-democracy/]

Our role is to ensure that the good outweighs the forces that can compromise healthy discourse.

perhaps this begs we go beyond bandaid ing ourselves.. and get to the root of healing.. then you’ll have people not only able to discern ie: good from bad; false from true.. we don’t be creating the circus of badness/unhealth/et-al in the first place..
we have the means to focus on facilitating 7 bn curiosities everyday..
imagine if we did that.. 
imagine all the things we’re spending energy on now.. becoming irrelevant

By Samidh Chakrabarti, Product Manager, Civic Engagement

Finally, since the best deterrent will ultimately be a discerning public

and perhaps.. a pre occupied (for good) public.. why spend out days discerning.. when most of the stuff we’d be discerning.. could become irrelevant.. by means of eudaimoniative surplus

 They are professionalized and constantly try to game the system. We will always have more work to do.

unless.. we are all doing something else..

Think about how our minds work. It’s natural to seek out information that confirms what we already believe — a phenomenon social scientists call “confirmation bias.” Walter Quattrociocchi, Antonio Scala and Cass Sunstein found evidence last year that social media users are drawn to information that strengthens their preferred narratives and reject information that undermines it.

That makes bursting these bubbles hard because it requires pushing against deeply ingrained human instincts.

human instincts..? or manufactured/complianced behaviors..?

we need to make sure no one is bullied or threatened for their views.

then go to the root.. for 7 bn

Unequal Participation

has to be all of us.. begs a leap ..a global do over.. to global equity

This means that for the first time in history, **people can keep up with their government as easily as they keep up with their friends. This is unlocking *new waves of latent civic energy and putting power into more hands.

imagine the *new waves of latent energy if **people can keep up with their daily curiosities.. via 2 convos

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

If there’s one fundamental truth about social media’s impact on democracy it’s that it amplifies human intent — both good and bad. At its best, it allows us to express ourselves and take action.

let’s just focus-on/listen-to/facil that.. as it could be

I wish I could guarantee that the positives are destined to outweigh the negatives, but *I can’t. That’s why we have a moral duty to understand how these technologies are being used and what can be done to make communities like Facebook as representative, civil and trustworthy as possible.

*but we can.. if it’s all of us..

By Cass R. Sunstein, Professor at Harvard Law School

Mental illness, chronic pain, loss of employment, vulnerability to crime, drugs in the family – information about all these spread via social media, and they can be *reduced with sensible policies. When people can talk to each other, and disclose what they know to public officials, the whole world might change in a hurry.

perhaps even make them all *irrelevant.. since they were mostly man made in first place.. et al

 Unplanned, unanticipated encounters are central to democracy itself.

so let’s facil  2 convos .. as the day..

consider a small experiment in democracy that I conducted with some colleagues over a decade ago. We brought about sixty American citizens (from co spgs/right and boulder/left) together and
assembled them into groups, generally consisting of six people..The results were simple and disturbing. In almost every group, members ended up with more extreme positions after they spoke with one another. That’s group polarization in action… Here’s my point: Every minute of every day, the Colorado experiment is being replicated on social media, and in countless nations.


wikipedia small

Facebook is an American online social media and social networking service based in Menlo Park, California. The Facebook website was launched on February 4, 2004, by Mark Zuckerberg, along with fellow Harvard College students and roommates, Eduardo Saverin, Andrew McCollum, Dustin Moskovitz, and Chris Hughes.

Mark ZuckerbergEduardo SaverinDustin MoskowitzSean Parker, ..

The founders had initially limited the website’s membership to Harvard students; however, later they expanded it to higher education institutions in the Boston area, the Ivy League schools, and Stanford University. Facebook gradually added support for students at various other universities, and eventually to high school students as well. Since 2006, anyone who claims to be at least 13 years old has been allowed to become a registered user of Facebook, though variations exist in the minimum age requirement, depending on applicable local laws. The Facebook name comes from the face book directories often given to United States university students. The company held its initial public offering (IPO) in February 2012, and began selling stock to the public three months later, reaching an original peak market capitalization of $104 billion, a new record. Facebook makes most of its revenue from advertisements which appear onscreen.


Facebook has more than 2 billion monthly active users as of June 2017. Its popularity has led to prominent media coverage for the company, including significant scrutiny over privacy and the psychological effects it has on users. In recent years, the company has faced intense pressure over the amount of fake news, hate speech and violence prevalent on its services, all of which it is attempting to counteract.


internet dot org et al




Ethan Z on facebook

Siva Vaidhyanathan (@sivavaid) tweeted at 6:46 AM – 27 Jan 2018 :

Facebook is acting against the public good, and it’s time for people to build alternatives, @EthanZ argues. https://t.co/Iptruv4VL1(http://twitter.com/sivavaid/status/957248574152216576?s=17)

Instead of telling Facebook what it should do, people should build tools that let them view the world the way they choose.

mech to facil 2 convos .. as the day

Obviously, Facebook is filled with people who care deeply about these issues. Some are my friends and my former students. But Facebook suffers from a problem of its own success. It has grown so central to our mediated understanding of the world that it either needs to learn to listen to its users stated desires, or it needs to make room for platforms that do.

science of people ness..  is killing us.. we have no idea what we’re like.. let’s listen for that..as it could be


Steven Johnson (@stevenbjohnson) tweeted at 7:24 AM on Mon, Feb 12, 2018:
Epic Wired cover story (and what a cover it is!) on Facebook’s annus horribilis. (Or whatever the latin would be for TWO horrible years.) I just read the riveting opening section, more thoughts when I finish it later this AM… https://t.co/wm5ndDI6LY


So this Wired story pretty much confirmed for me what I’d been saying for a while (including before the election). Facebook got played and manipulated to not fix the egregious exploitation of its platform before the election. Plain and simple. https://t.co/bTYH6FMEyy https://t.co/z8HdtoEJIs

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/963163634384941056


unilever threatens to pull facebook et al.. ads

Important! FB’s #1 advertiser threatens to pull their $$’s until they clean it up – powerful move bc advertisers, not users, are social media’s true customers. Now let’s get the other 9/10 advertisers on Facebook to speak up – use your voice! https://t.co/TcYopUrz3X

Unilever threatens to pull advertising from platforms such as Facebook and YouTube, if they don’t do more to combat the spread of fake news, hate speech and divisive content. wsj.com/articles/unile…

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/tristanharris/status/963136272410619904


Justin Hendrix (@justinhendrix) tweeted at 4:28 AM – 20 Feb 2018 :

Facebook’s next project: American inequality https://t.co/RY9lk9yBcu via @politico (http://twitter.com/justinhendrix/status/965911064369156097?s=17)

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg is quietly cracking open his company’s vast trove of user data for a study on economic inequality in the U.S. — the latest sign of his efforts to reckon with divisions in American society that the social network is accused of making worse.

The study, which hasn’t previously been reported, is mining the social connections among Facebook’s American users to shed light on the growing income disparity in the U.S., where the top 1 percent of households is said to control 40 percent of the country’s wealth.

Now the company is making the user data available to a team led by Stanford economist Raj Chetty, a favorite among tech elites for his focus on data-driven solutions to the nation’s social and economic problems.


If you work at Facebook or Twitter, please print out this tweet by a HIGH SCHOOLER SURVIVOR OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING and tape it onto every surface you can find. Your platforms are (and have been!!) enabling an obscene level of abuse. https://t.co/wFojEassJn

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/xuhulk/status/966385216032997376


Scott B. Weingart  (@scott_bot) tweeted at 9:10 PM – 23 Feb 2018 :

Well this is surreal. I’m reading an article on social network analysis that calculates someone’s morale based on the “likes” they received.

The catch is, it was written in 1939. https://t.co/mxgig8j3GK (http://twitter.com/scott_bot/status/967250322887503872?s=17)

Scott B. Weingart  (@scott_bot) tweeted at 3:43 AM – 24 Feb 2018 :

@_erincon https://t.co/Ol0Hp5z7Av
Sociometry of Morale. Leslie Day Zeleny. American Sociological Review. Vol. 4, No. 6 (Dec., 1939), pp. 799-808 (http://twitter.com/scott_bot/status/967349224554876934?s=17)


Audrey Watters (@audreywatters) tweeted at 5:57 AM – 26 Feb 2018 :

Pre-ordered. Cannot wait for this book https://t.co/hHTMcQoVi1 (http://twitter.com/audreywatters/status/968107761669206017?s=17)

Antisocial Media – How Facebook Disconnects Us and Undermines Democracy



Hamza Shaban (@hshaban) tweeted at 12:51 PM – 17 Mar 2018 :

As Facebook draws distinctions between data breaches and mere “violations”, 3rd party betrayals and its own responsibility, consider @zeynep’s argument that we can’t actually “accept” data privacy agreements because the idea of informed consent is a farce https://t.co/Kl93m4RvHj https://t.co/7aevdbTt16(http://twitter.com/hshaban/status/975082177061847040?s=17)


on Christopher Wylie and cambridge analytica and fb

Carne Ross (@carneross) tweeted at 5:38 AM – 19 Mar 2018 :

We desperately need an alternative to the ghastly, intrusive, unaccountable and manipulative @facebook – https://t.co/kddgfykOX6(http://twitter.com/carneross/status/975698114001686528?s=17)

perhaps what we need most is a mech to listen to and facil the daily curiosities of 7 bn people.. everyday..  so that everybody.. would have something else to do.. (the thing they can’t not do)


This is unconscionable. Facebook’s response to the Cambridge Analytica data debacle? To ban the whistleblower. Please retweet. This is NOT okay. https://t.co/abjfh4td4g

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/975336552678248448



The issue goes far beyond what Cambridge Analytica may have done in 2016. We need to confront that this kind of surveillance/data infrastructure is ripe for use, misuse and abuse. My latest for the @nytimes. https://t.co/wZEheBtu4Uhttps://t.co/T5RmLYUE8b (http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/975821745147047941?s=17)

Mr. Grewal is right: This wasn’t a breach in the technical sense. It is something even more troubling: an all-too-natural consequence of Facebook’s business model, which involves having people go to the site for social interaction, only to be quietly subjected to an enormous level of surveillance.

Facebook even creates “shadow profiles” of nonusers. That is, even if you are not on Facebook, the company may well have compiled a profile of you, inferred from data provided by your friends or from other data. This is an involuntary dossier from which you cannot opt out in the United States

Despite Facebook’s claims to the contrary, everyone involved in the Cambridge Analytica data-siphoning incident did not give his or her “consent” — at least not in any meaningful sense of the word. It is true that if you found and read all the fine print on the site, you might have noticed that in 2014, your Facebook friends had the right to turn over all your data through such apps. (Facebook has since turned off this feature.) If you had managed to make your way through a bewildering array of options, you might have even discovered how to turn the feature off.

This wasn’t informed consent. This was the exploitation of user data and user trust.

The real problem is that billions of dollars are being made at the expense of the health of our public sphere and our politics, and crucial decisions are being made unilaterally, and without recourse or accountability.


Mark responds to cambridge analytica ness



Mark Scott (@markscott82) tweeted at 3:25 AM – 23 Mar 2018 :

Valid point by @ibogost on why people are so affronted about recent @Facebok data scandal. They assumed third-party apps were part of FB. They were wrong. https://t.co/fUq4OEQFzQ https://t.co/xvQWJKP3t2 (http://twitter.com/markscott82/status/977114216153919488?s=17)


Julia Angwin (@JuliaAngwin) tweeted at 8:22 AM on Thu, Mar 29, 2018:
ICYMI Facebook’s announcement that it is shutting down relationships with data brokers is a big deal.

https://t.co/wPhszmGzXD /1


Why (almost) everything reported about the Cambridge Analytica Facebook ‘hacking’ controversy is wrong

To be crystal clear, I’m not arguing that Cambridge Analytica and Kogan were innocent. At the very least, it is clear they were doing things that were contrary to Facebook’s data sharing policies. And similarly Facebook seems to have been altogether too cavalier with permitting developers to access its users’ private data.

What I am arguing is that Cambridge Analytica are not the puppet masters they are being widely portrayed as. If anything they are much more akin to Donald Trump; making widely exaggerated claims about their abilities and getting lots of attention as a result.


Howard fb share: – real threat to fb



zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 5:46 AM – 4 Apr 2018 :

Forget Zuckerberg’s interviews on how much Facebook cares about its “community” or how “idealistic” they are. Instead, look at the fact that decisions are made unilaterally, by one person, with no say from the “community”, in a manner that protects Facebook’s profits (surprise!). https://t.co/uGCHgJN7dw(http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/981498212048625664?s=17)


Please take a moment to read this open letter from Myanmar NGOs to Facebook – https://t.co/rGtjhGrvij – it’s a remarkable insight into the ways FB is acting irresponsibly in countries where it has great influence but few/no staff.

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/EthanZ/status/982012167309418496

As representatives of Myanmar civil society organizations and the people who raised the Facebook Messenger threat to your team’s attention, we were surprised to hear you use this case to praise the effectiveness of your ‘systems’ in the context of Myanmar. From where we stand, this case exemplifies the
very opposite of effective moderation:

@EthanZ In business and tech schools of tomorrow we will teach about this letter like we teach about radio and Rwanda now.  Instead, we should have been teaching about how @facebook acted quickly to stop incitement of violence in Myanmar against Rohingya.  We can’t because they didn’t.

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/nattyray11/status/982057427259592706


via doctorow rt

Jeremy Ashkenas (@jashkenas) tweeted at 5:20 PM – 4 Apr 2018 :

You know, I really hate to keep beating a downed zuckerberg, but to the extent that expensive patents indicate corporate intent and direction —

Come along for a ride, and let’s browse a few of Facebook’s recent U.S.P.T.O. patent applications… (http://twitter.com/jashkenas/status/981672970098589696?s=17)


Ian Bogost (@ibogost) tweeted at 6:24 AM – 6 Apr 2018 :

“‘We really believed in social experiences. We really believed in protecting privacy. But we were way too idealistic. We did not think enough about the abuse cases,’ she said.”

https://t.co/rwmCPBU2TW (http://twitter.com/ibogost/status/982232517066420226?s=17)

begs gershenfeld sel


Aral Balkan (@aral) tweeted at 5:15 AM – 7 Apr 2018 :

Facebook is a surveillance capitalist.

Their business model is to extract your data, profile you, and exploit that intimate knowledge for their profit & political motives.

Sadly, this isn’t cluelessness. The “e-health” (read: insurance) industry is salivating for your data… https://t.co/5G7rLTLufW (http://twitter.com/aral/status/982577506615218177?s=17)


via zittrain rt

Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society (@BKCHarvard) tweeted at 1:28 PM – 6 Apr 2018 :

Reading: Facebook’s surveillance powers are nothing compared to what your Internet service provider is capable of. BKC privacy fellow @salome_viljoen_ in the @guardian https://t.co/EZ6hBWMSMO https://t.co/kFIyo0n61P (http://twitter.com/BKCHarvard/status/982339234584563712?s=17)



zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 2:23 PM – 6 Apr 2018 :

Mark Zuckerberg has been apologizing nonstop for more than 15 years. It’s always the same apology for pretty much the same act. When do we talk about the obvious: Facebook’s decisions are primarily driven by its business model. Here’s my latest for @Wired: https://t.co/W8Jh0wHyw0https://t.co/wOsiXY5UEB (http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/982353038017875969?s=17)

If Facebook really were a community, Zuckerberg would not be able to make so many statements about unilateral decisions he has made

Again, this isn’t a community; this is a regime of one-sided, highly profitable surveillance, carried out on a scale that has made Facebook one of the largest companies in the world by market capitalization.


There is indeed a case of Stockholm syndrome here. There are very few other contexts in which a person would be be allowed to make a series of decisions that have obviously enriched them while eroding the privacy and well-being of billions of people; to make basically the same apology for those decisions countless times over the space of just 14 years; and then to profess innocence, idealism, and complete independence from the obvious structural incentives that have shaped the whole process. This should ordinarily cause all the other educated, literate, and smart people in the room to break into howls of protest or laughter. Or maybe tears.

but doesn’t because it’s what we’ve all grown up in.. ie: science of people in schools

These are such readily apparent facts that any denial of them is quite astounding.

schooling the world

zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 2:25 PM – 6 Apr 2018 :

Sheryl Sandberg also claimed that Facebook’s problem is that they’ve been “way too idealistic.” I don’t know people who work for or run Facebook believe this, but if they do, it shows the power of self-deception—after 15 years of deeds, this doesn’t hold. https://t.co/W8Jh0wHyw0(http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/982353532643782656?s=17)

zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 3:15 PM – 6 Apr 2018 :

Look the point isn’t all this due to some evil conspiracy. I’m not claiming that Facebook employees don’t care about users. But incentives and business models shape their behavior—just like other companies and people. (http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/982366117829267457?s=17)

fractal ish to school

and so .. schooling the world

ie: used to credential mattering more than community.. no matter what words we use

1/ If the primary purpose of school was education, the Internet should obsolete it. But school is mainly about credentialing.

pluralistic ignorance et al

zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 6:29 PM – 6 Apr 2018 :

On Android. Facebook has apparently been scooping up people’s text messages on Android phones. Not messenger communication—plain text messages. Content and metadata. https://t.co/10F4VST0vs (http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/982415074424967173?s=17)

zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 7:15 AM – 7 Apr 2018 :

The way to change Facebook and YouTube—and the whole online economy of surveillance—is to change their incentive structure and business model. Neither Zuckerberg apologizing for the umpteenth time in fifteen years nor legislators yelling at Zuckerberg will get us there. (http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/982607845458890752?s=17)

incentive ness

zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 5:15 PM – 9 Apr 2018 :

Many people asked me what lawmakers should ask Mark Zuckerberg. Here’s my answer: Nothing. Instead, they should get to work and pass legislation to fix the reckless surveillance in the digital economy. In my latest NYT oped, I suggest four concrete steps: https://t.co/mgBQ6MjcZhhttps://t.co/qdSYyZl2O1(http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/983483678490857472?s=17)

more zeynep

zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) tweeted at 1:21 PM – 21 Aug 2018 :
Oh, wow. Wow especially since in Germany, Facebook has been forced, through fines, to hire many moderators to respond to hate speech. If this finding holds, imagine the effect around in places Facebook has been terribly understaffed and unresponsive for years—Burma, Sri Lanka… https://t.co/HOB02VpVBq (http://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1031984543912394753?s=17)


some tweets from day mark in front of congress

Good lineup of resources on Facebook by @Mlsif https://t.co/sSVdgxJFFl

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/983752919232188416

Zuckerberg on not Facebook selling data, my piece points out why that is a red herring as far as Facebook is concerned. It collects and hoards data, and sells not data but *us* and *our attention*—it is in Facebook’s interests not to sell  data. https://t.co/mgBQ6MjcZh

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/983814951000268800

The questions almost all start good—staffers briefed them well—and then devolve into misunderstandings. So telling. This is failure of us as media and tech press and pundits, and obfuscation and complexity as practiced by Facebook—indeed, most of tech.

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/983826017205694465

Booker is grilling #Zuckerberg. Remember: it’s been only been eight years since Zuckerberg donated $100 million to the city of Newark under @CoryBooker, which was then wasted on consultants and charter schools.

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/nikhilgoya_l/status/983826515694583808

Survey: 89% of Android users didn’t give Facebook consent https://t.co/vMCP9CxZEZ https://t.co/bZMccvCqYw

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/983480366571839488


Erik Voorhees (@ErikVoorhees) tweeted at 1:11 PM – 10 Apr 2018 :

Such hypocrisy… politicians grill #Zuckerberg about the importance of privacy, while simultaneously supporting the world’s largest surveillance apparatus. If I don’t want #Facebook spying on me, and I stop using it. If I don’t want US Gov spying on me, where can I opt out? (http://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/983784557416660995?s=17)


zuck hearings sv debut



Harold Jarche (@hjarche) tweeted at 2:03 PM – 15 Apr 2018 :

“Facebook will develop services it can provide governments to better secure, control, and manage their citizens in a volatile global environment. In exchange for these services, Facebook will avoid regulations that will limit their ability to make money” https://t.co/iPgZT2UdJy (http://twitter.com/hjarche/status/985609616552857600?s=17)


There is a lot of focus on the harms of engagement algorithms and design on Facebook (which are *very* real) but the damage YouTube is doing especially to young people and around the world especially in places with lower literacy/education and weak institutions is immense.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1002567998895423489


Facebook officially loses $123 billion in value https://t.co/q896raSkr1 by @romaindillet https://t.co/4HWAl7XLUU

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/TechCrunch/status/1022474885174583296

Jedediah Purdy (@JedediahSPurdy) tweeted at 4:27 AM – 27 Jul 2018 :
The NYT headline announcing Facebook’s stock slip “destroyed $120b in wealth,” which roughly equals the annual GDP of Iowa, suggests we haven’t completely worked out what we mean by “wealth.” (http://twitter.com/JedediahSPurdy/status/1022790543485558784?s=17)