brian on artist ness
brian eno on genocide/art – BRIAN ENO, an artist AGAINST GENOCIDE. #Gaza – 34 min video – june 2024
via yanis varoufakis tweet [https://x.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1804789215181373872]:
A conversation about art and resistance – Frank Barat speaks to Brian Eno @brianeno. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7WD7ndUXLo]:
Love to chat with Brian Eno. Today, most of our focus was on the genocide in Gaza and the actions of our governments and the role of artists in times of struggle. (frank barat)
notes/quotes from video:
2 min – b: the feeling that there’s no political structure to call on any longer.. what moral position do we have left in the world.. how can we hold others to standards.. we aren’t.. we support people on our side and don’t support people who aren’t.. a complete breakdown of any moral fabric. . such a clear manifestation of state fascism.. yet still pretending nothing diff going on
6 min – b: shows you people are not anymore thinking about the idea of a better future.. they’re thinking .. we’re in a mess.. what’s the best i can find for myself in all this.. what’s the best deal for me.. ie: way billionaires entirely self interested.. bigger fire engine/shelter for myself
7 min – b: 2 ways to go about this 1\ stop awful things.. we’re not doing very well at that 2\ make some good new things happen.. build a kind of future we would like to live in..i see a lot of that going on.. doesn’t ever make the news.. not news worthy.. if it doesn’t bleed it doesn’t feature.. i think there is a lot more good news than we know about.. i see it.. diff ways to build/live/govern
8 min – b: we know that w gaza.. in every single country.. w possible exception of germany maybe.. the majority of people against the war in gaza.. yet govts not paying attention to them.. countries doing anything good are smaller countries.. ie: ireland.. culture that has integrity to stand alone on all this
9 min – b: we’ve lost all integrity.. we’re in such a weak position .. we think.. that we can’t afford to not be friends w the americans and the israelis and everybody else.. we don’t have to be friends w palestinians because they don’t have any political clout at all.. so we can ignore them.. sorry.. we’re grumbling again
15 min – b: no prospect of peace.. unless whole govt completely swept away
even deeper.. unless sans any form of m\a\p.. which includes the accounting/measuring ness of re ness
16 min – b: i think already israel is a mentally sick country.. suffering from psychosis, mental illness and it’s become a national mental illness.. a complete breakdown of rationality of any sense of empathy.. people running into fight ready to do whatever they’re told to do and later asking.. was that me?.. how did we ever get there..
rather.. a global mental illness.. why we need a global detox leap.. for (blank)’s sake
myth of normal and khan filling the gaps law et al
18 min – b: they’re always saying.. we’re not the people committing the crimes.. we’re the victims.. in all the wars.. have a right to defend.. and america keeps sending weapons
21 min – f: i’m wondering how we can stop it.. how can we.. we’ve done demonstrations.. which seem to be useless
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. to facil a legit global detox leap.. for (blank)’s sake.. and we’re missing it
ie: imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)
how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us.. ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition
23 min – b: no value at all to them (israel) to have peace.. would have to reach accommodations w palestineans
but there is something that is of value.. just deep w/in each one of us.. so need global detox first.. to uncover/restore that.. so we can org around legit needs
we need a problem deep enough to resonate w/8bn today.. a mechanism simple enough to be accessible/usable to 8bn today.. and an ecosystem open enough to set/keep 8bn legit free
ie: org around a problem deep enough (aka: org around legit needs) to resonate w/8bn today.. via a mechanism simple enough (aka: tech as it could be) to be accessible/usable to 8bn today.. and an ecosystem open enough (aka: sans any form of m\a\p) to set/keep 8bn legit free
ie: a nother way
24 min – b: suppose there was a way they had to reach an accommodation.. reached quicker than now.. of this ethnic cleansing..
25 min – b: i think all the support we have given to israel has translated into a horror for palestineans.. we think we’ve been supporting israel.. but actually condemning palestineans..
27 min – f: specifically because you are an artist.. i hate to say come on board.. because it’s about humanity (doing things for gaza et al).. but i’ve also seen many people say can’t be neutral in situation of genocide if have a mic et al.. i don’t want to take a position.. are you disappointed
nice.. yeah that.. invited vs invented ness
28 min – b: it’s about stopping bad things or doing good things.. you can separate those.. i find it difficult to separate them.. if i want to see a future that is any good at all.. i have to say that some things have to stop
but can (only) stop them by trying something that makes them irrelevant s.. then not spending energy/time on talking ness (gibran talking law; willard talking law; rumi words law; et al)
ie: gershenfeld something else law et al
29 min – b: there are some people who think.. i don’t want to even think about the bad side.. by thinking about it i encourage it
rather.. thinking about it .. at this point.. (when in such dire state for (blank)’s sake and have means for something legit diff).. it’s a cancerous distraction
29 min – b: saying.. i just want to make a new world.. and there have been people who have done that successfully.. but i can’t remember any of them right now.. but i’m sure there must be some
that’s the problem.. no one has to data.. because none of us to date has let go (into ie: unconditionalitynes) enough to legit try/see/be something diff
b: on (some artist) believing that his art is powerful enough to speak for itself and he doesn’t have to express a political position.. i personally art is automatically good and auto tells you the truth.. i think art can just as well be in the service of a bad master as a good master..
perhaps because of our misuse (whatever) of art..
need: legit art (aka: being human) and then..
art (by day/light) and sleep (by night/dark) as global re\set.. to fittingness (undisturbed ecosystem)
30 min – b: it’s sort of a slightly cowardly position to say ‘no i’m not going to speak out about this’ we know it’s a difficult because as soon as you do.. somebody slaps you quit hard.. but for christ’s sake.. don’t we have any courage left in this..
ie: of cancerous distraction.. we need the courage (gupta roadblock law et al).. so realize that.. to step away from the language as control/enclosure hamster wheel of whac-a-mole-ing ness
b: i don’t want to condemn others.. ‘not doing same thing as me’.. but very hard for me to understand that this isn’t an outrage for everybody.. if it isn’t.. what is an outrage to make you act
31 min – f: the fact that we are still talking after 9 mos of genocide of thousands of kids being killed.. we’ve become numb to it.. the tally goes up and up.. gaza is such a small place.. 40 000 people out of 2 million.. it’s very hard.. the fat that people would not speak is mind blowing for me.. i think as you say.. in future.. grandkids et al will ask.. hey you had a mic.. why didn’t you speak
exactly on the talking for 9 mos on gaza alone.. talking since forever.. rather than trying something legit diff..
graeber model law et al
33 min – b: even if leave aside all empathetic considerations. what is very important.. this is causing the destruction of any sense of an international ethical community.. that is very bad news for the future.. forget about (all the labels).. and think about the future of the world and how we hold it together in some form or another where it isn’t just completely the law of the jungle and whoever’s strongest wins and the rest die.. that’s what’s really at risk now.. that’s the bigger picture.. the main reason we’ve got to keep fightig this.. if this is allowed to pass w/o any resistance.. then everything will be allowed to pass.. t
well.. everything already allowed to pass.. since all in sea world.. and resistance (any re ness) is a cancerous distraction keeping us there.. need a means (call it resistance if you like) for a global detox detox leap/re\set
hari rat park law et al
f: i like the camping and singing end more
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