carne ross

carne ross

intro’d to Carne via this tweet from David:

The remarkable experiment in self-government in #Rojava #Syria  – my article in @FT – – thank you for having me
Original Tweet:

oct 2015

I asked the brother of the murdered man why he didn’t want the killer to face further punishment. His eyes moist with grief, he replied, no: “social peace” was more important than punishment. This was a better way, he argued: what good would be served by a long punishment of the perpetrator? I was staggered and moved. I thought of the barbarity of Rikers Island prison, which I would fly over on my way home to the US. No one in that country would claim that a system premised on punishment over reconciliation has achieved “social peace”.


If you wanted a society freed of coercion, you must abolish the ultimate practitioner of coercion, including violence: the state itself.


Carne Ross is a former British diplomat and author. He visited Syria for the documentary film, ‘The Accidental Anarchist’, produced by Hopscotch Films and Mentorn Media with support from the Sundance Institute for release in 2016



recommended his book to overdrive (2011 – leaderless revolution

2013 – event..?


his ted from bif 5:

An independent diplomat

on the importance of random ness

whimsy matters.. dancing in sync

i can’t do this anymore.. something’s broken

1\ falling off a cliff is a good thing..

2\ no longer good enough to say.. none of my business.. and leave it to govt’s

we are all interconnected


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Carne Ross is the founder and director of Independent Diplomat, a diplomatic advisory group. Carne Ross taught in Zimbabwe before attending the University of Exeter where he studied economics and politics. He joined the British foreign service in 1989. Ross’s testimony in the Butler Review directly contradicted the British position on the justification behind the invasion of Iraq.



a nother way

radical econ et al


Observer New Review (@ObsNewReview) tweeted at 4:35 AM – 9 Jul 2017 :

Ex-diplomat @carneross’s case for anarchism: how a former Middle East adviser lost his faith in western democracy (

The grandson of one of Bletchley Park’s wartime codebreakers

In Accidental Anarchist, a new documentary that details Ross’s political transformation, the former diplomat speaks of his disillusionment with his job following a visit to the British embassy in Kabul in 2002.



He took a year’s sabbatical and read about political alternatives. Meanwhile the war in Iraq started, following an active campaign by the Blair government to ensure that Britain took part in the invasion. In the film, Ross is damning of this decision: “They had deliberately misled the public by claiming that Iraq was a threat when it wasn’t and that there were no alternatives to war when there were. To lie to the public and to the servicemen and women you’re sending to war is the gravest of disservices… that’s the worst thing any government can possibly do.”

The answer to the second question, according to Ross and many theorists, is that you ensure the “people” retain power through mass participation. But the problem with that proviso is that, by and large, most people don’t really like sitting around in meetings for hours on end listening to other people’s arguments and complaints. If representative democracy has one overriding advantage, it’s that we appoint other people to sit in the boring meetings we don’t want to attend.

a nother way – sans meetings.. redefine decision making

He believes that if people had a say over the future of their local hospital or local school then they would show up, “however boring the meeting, because you really give a shit about it”.

why meetings..? w today’s tech capabilities..

Ross’s idealism is the kind that strains to find some means of politics that recognises the deepest emotions. “With the most important things to humans we have only the vaguest terms to communicate them: love, community, solidarity, meaning, purpose, spirit, soul – the feeling of them is certainly not captured by a vote or a GDP statistic. I believe anarchism promotes these things.”

let’s try 2 convos.. [via idio jargon – our means to communicate words or no words..] the day

a nother wayhlb that io dance


on nobel peace prize

Carne Ross (@carneross) tweeted at 4:27 AM – 25 Nov 2017 :

After Suu Kyi and now this, and the general absurdity of the exercise, I think it’s time to stop Nobel peace prizes (literature too a bit dodgy) (