voc – jeff emmet – from p2p to p4p
Jeff Emmett – From P2P to P4P (Valley of the Commons)
valley of the commons – day 5 – 8.28.26 – jeff emmett – from p2p to p4p
notes/quotes from 54 min video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLwA7XieXkg]:
2 min – j: on weird credential ness.. on silliness over titles et al.. aligning dao ness with ostrom 8 ness
ostrom 8.. credentials ness et al.. marsh label law et al
3 min – cusp of new era – p4p.. p2p: protocols of communication .. p4p: protocols of coordination.. how do you do that.. w/o all capture vectors..to create network of self infrastructuring..t
ie: imagine if we listen to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)
the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness
[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance
5 min – p2p carries the message.. p4p carries the record.. so now collab ing on protocols you are building.. so now have a record of who created what .. when/where used.. so extending communication capabilities.. not just a channel.. but recorded with named agents..
there’s a deeper ‘communication/coord’ ness we need..
ie: need means (nonjudgmental expo labeling) to undo hierarchical listening – so we can hear what’s already on each heart as global detox in order to org around legit needs
7 min – not just sending a message back and forth but .. meta data rides along to bring us into a higher dimensional data space
to me.. not high/deep enough.. unless we get to the itch-in-8b-souls
for that.. we need major/global detox.. because since that day all data has been non legit.. aka: whalespeak
we need to try self-talk as data via tech as it could be.. aka: tech w/o judgment; nonjudgmental expo labeling
8 min – changing value regimes.. from commodity to contributory accout of collective
to me.. if still accountable ness.. if still any form of m\a\p.. still commodity ness.. so to me.. this is not a legit change.. just same song
9 min – so what does p4p mean.. new ways to stream line our social agreements..
and again.. not new.. if still ‘agree’ ness et al.. ie: public consensus always oppresses someone(s)
10 min: on cosmo local ness.. what michel and kostokas have been working on for years
vasilis kostakis et al.. flok society, commons transition.. et al
11 min – new techs of commons ie: value flows; content addressing; holonic compositon; credential & provenance; federation; sovereign transport and fabrication.. novel net techs that can be composed into some very interesting systems
findings from on the ground ness deep dive on why we need tech w/o judgment
ie: the dance won’t dance unless/until it’s 1\ all of us 2\ legit free
nothing to date (ever since that day) has gotten to that root of problem
legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance
14 min – on need to build own pipes.. so they can’t shut us off
deeper.. needs to be all of us from the get go.. no more us & them
we need a problem deep enough to resonate w/8b today.. via a mechanism simple enough to be accessible/usable to 8b today.. in an ecosystem open enough to set/keep 8b legit free
ie: org around a problem deep enough (aka: org around legit needs) to resonate w/8b today.. via a mechanism simple enough (aka: tech as it could be) to be accessible/usable to 8b today.. and an ecosystem open enough (aka: sans any form of m\a\p) to set/keep 8b legit free
huge.. and we’re missing it
nothing new till we get that.. just perpetuating survival triage
22 min – if p4p doesn’t work out.. next p8p
stopped here..
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