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We had a wide-ranging conversation about #open education with the splendid @actualham .
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8 min – (what will you be working on next year).. such a difficult question coming after those debates last night.. i’m really trying to figure out.. i guess i’m feeling this looming sense of urgency.. and i want to make sure that the stuff i’m focusing on is not just sequestered in the area of my own expertise..t.. but what i see is really connected to what i see is just very pressing national problems..

refreshing.. and yes urgent..

[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

if equity is everyone getting a go every day.. redefining public education becomes revolution of everyday life.. aka: global equity

8 min – so my goal is to take that work (at colab) and support the people here who are doing local work and to think about how we can link that to larger national pressing issues

if urgency matters.. we have to go global.. our interconnectedness begs the solution is global.. but also the exponentiation of the cure (means to equity)..

ai humanity needs.. augmenting interconnectedness

ie: 2 convers as infra

tech as it could be..

so that if we do some things that are helpful to students and teaching/ learning that we share that to a broader vision for accessible public ed..

today we have the means for a deeper vision

10 min – so the goal.. i think in all of the work of open.. is to figure out how to create ecosystems in which the wide variety of *good people that we have can have their work amplified/shared..

*has to be all of us or it won’t work..


11 min – how do i galvanize a learning community.. how do i take people.. already doing all that work.. we’re trying grow that organically.. i see my job as more of a barrier remover for the good people that are doing good work.. offering a more open/generous alternative..  an ecosystem that extends..

then let’s go deeper .. even more organic ie: facil daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

and remove even ie: supposed to’s.. of school/work

16 min – radical sharing being not about the object.. ref’d jim luke and his work w the knowledge commons.. not about policing the sharing of stuff.. about helping people understand what it might look like to work in a more circular/sustainable system..t. we only over grazed (ref to tragedy of commons) a meadow when the commons is about the grass/cows not the farmer (relationships)

start thinking about questions of infra rather that what we produce..t

ie: 2 convers as infra.. to get us back/to common\ing

18 mi – for me.. not so much about saving costs.. but rethinking that whole ecosystem toward a public good that really works for everyone.. that’s why there’s a lot of crossover w the debate last night about healthcare.. these are all related convos for me about how we nurture and care for each other and what mythologies we’ve been fed about why public sharing systems don’t work..t.. how much of that is a pr gimmick that’s tricked us a little bit

rather.. a lot.. very deeply.. to the point of whales in sea world.. we have no idea what we’re capable of..

roots of healing .. begs we focus on maté basic needs

19 min – i want to come at this thru practice.. i’m glad people are doing great research.. but for most of us.. just working w own students.. what does it mean for our practice as we do our won local work..

dang.. such a good articulation/heart.. but spinning wheels.. if trying to get better at practicing being whales in sea world.. et al

i’m trying to bring these convos to more faculty/staff/students.. and not just keep them in the sectors that have traditionally owned these convos

lets just say.. people.. and maybe.. if we were all free enough to go/listen deep enough.. even a lot of these ‘convos’ we think we need to be having.. we think we need to be removing obstacles for.. would become irrelevant..

again deeper focus ie: 2 convers as infra

public ed.. accessible ed.. should be all over this.. (if not in it for career/earning-a-living.. et al)

again.. if equity is everyone getting a go every day.. redefining public education becomes revolution of everyday life.. aka: global equity

20 min – q&a begins

23 min – (on tools) just hired martha to come work here – domain of one’s own at all.. as ie: eports (portolios)


 domain of one’s own 

25 min – press books..  beyond text book.. flexible

so really my job is to talk w faculty/students about learning objectives.. then the tech comes later.. less the tools and more.. what does an authentic contribution in that field look like

i think that’s what’s diff today.. the tech (if deep enough) ie: listening to 7b voices everyday – as it could be.. is where we need to start.. hearing every voice/curiosity is how we get back/to authenticity

27 min – (same guy/peter w/follow-up w question – how do we create reward structures that recognize and motivate that kind of engagement).. that’s a great question and that’s what i go to.. hey faculty.. this is not a thing that is done to us.. this is a thing we do to ourselves..

whoa.. cancer guys.. thinking we need incentives is a red flag.. we’re perpetuating cancer

 28 min – how the elitism of our system is bad for the knowledge commons.. ref’d k fitz generous thinking.. a more radical way of thinking intellectual property elitism/competition..

30 min – by radical.. i don’t mean extreme.. ie: i’m not a person who believes .. all things open all the time..  ie: indigenous cultures exploited by white academia.. so there’s a diff political framework of power when we radically open indigenous texts

that sounds like using whales in sea world to call out tragedy of commons ness..

in that sense i think it has to be all .. unconditional.. et al

ie: undisturbed ecosystem: ‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows

31 min – on making things radically open.. and people getting hurt because of how internet works..

32 min – i think what makes this radical.. is resisting the market (construct) and not that you’re saying everything open all the time

good on market.. but deeper.. money (any form of measuring/accounting).. is cancerous.. that includes.. ie: incentives et al

32 min – george station question: on commons.. how do we make sure we’re farmers and not cows

i think there’s a risk here in claiming this metaphor too much.. esp for students.. they have absolutely been cows.. herded thru ed.. to the point there have been faculty retreats to try to figure out what tap dance in order to make a student just care about the ed they are paying gobs of money for.. that is weird .. if you think about it

so really about learning not a thing done to you.. there are only cows.. how do we all participate together.. that agency question

2 convers as infra

35 min – weird.. some top downs are much more open.. ie: community college.. top down ness makes a kind of speed.. all on board.. leapfrog right over uni very quickly.. that agility/quickness in top down system is because of a lot of exploitation.. not sure which is more sustainable.. ie: force to do oer.. but if only see this as cost saving.. run risk of not understanding.. cost saving that are 1\ crippling or 2\ good for teaching/learning..

what matters is 1\ students connecting w ed.. 2\college completion  3\ research commons.. sharing network to as many diverse communities globally.. if we don’t focus on those.. doesn’t matter how fast you move.. oer alone is not going to save us.. if too slow.. just wait in 10 yrs.. all will have it.. sometimes being slow is ok.. more stakeholders at table..

39 min – the system is a vague thing.. but one thing i think about.. a public uni.. is that worth saving.. we don’t know.. because no one is talking about the value those institutions offer and what we will lose if we lose them.. and that’s the chris newfield case.. we don’t know what we’re losing

worse.. we don’t know what we’re missing.. what we’re capable of .. again ie: whales in sea world

41 min – george – wondering about ability to do network growing locally

2 convers as infra.. wish you could here me..

and hence.. the need for tech that listens to all the voices.. that’s the new thing.. as it could be..

42 min – why we have such a hard time translating huge successes to local..  dehumanizing local resources

45 min – (q: what makes you think we can change it now).. i’m sorry if i implied we could

but we can.. the new is a means to listen to every voice.. every day.. this is what’s new: tech as it could be..

(you talk about systems.. are there opps now that weren’t before).. there are folks like c davidson, k fitz, et all.. saying if we talk about public value.. that type of education will enable us to shift systems.. for me.. it also comes down to daily practice.. ie: every single day as just a teacher.. always making choices between oer and not.. textbook and not.. contracts.. et al.. 100 touches a day involved with these deeper questions.. most of decisions being made not being made thoughtfully

actually.. spinach or rock ness.. so not deep enough.. try ie: curiosity and decision making

49 min – let’s just wake up a bit more and be more critical of everyday practice..

51 min – (so no specific thing that’s changed).. no .. more every year.. i feel i’m getting less hopeful.. but what makes me hopeful is that when i rethink my own practice.. i can make decisions everyday that are transformative for little system i work on .. i don’t think there’s a thing that fixes it and we’re not of the cusp of that.. it’s more about if the public wants to live in the public.. or private

not enough of us.. as long as we don’t all give up at the same time

has to be a leap.. has to be all of us.. everyone in sync

53 min – the question of learning outside/inside the institution is very interesting to me and i’m not at all convinced that institutions are the way to do this.. but i know that once we lose them weren’t not going to be able to go back.. so i want be very sure that we’ve done everything we can with the value we have here

that won’t get us to urgent.. the something new.. mech to listen to every voice.. as it could be..

let go

55 min – (juan q: if ed is public.. belongs to everyone.. if social.. personalized in socializing..).. the role of the personal has become very vexed w personalized learning.. and relationships between neolib/competition/personalization.. models are very competitive.. there must be some other option between personalized and collab.. to honor idio sync and true community..t

undisturbed ecosystem

2 convers as infra

ie: letting tech facil a universal language of /idio-jargon.. both local/global

(bryan q: where do you see ethos headed).. textbooks gone in 5 yrs.. but that’s not the most interesting question.. the question of open is much bigger.. and i don’t know what’s going to happen w any of that.. i’m a nowest and in the nowest perspective.. people in higher ed can spend more time looking at the things we do everyday.. and just start there.. and asking.. why do we do this.. so hope for future.. when we talk about rethinking ed.. will be in hands of people who do teaching/learning/research/scholarship

oy.. again.. sinclair perpetuation law


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