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Ecosystems as the bridges between “no more” and “not yet”

In the latest Checkpoint episode on the Boundaryless Conversations Podcast with our co-founder and long term advisor Lisa Gansky, we tried to frame the we are having around organising at scale in terms of a transition between the “” and “”.

If organisations may choose to invest in , going from a culture of to inviting curiosity and provocation, the possibility is high that ecosystems may play a fundamental role in the process of engaging with building the “no more”.

perhaps we just focus on daily curiosity  (ie: cure ios city) as our org (ie: 2 convers as infra)

We begin to understand that the idea of creating organisations as places where collective learning can really and deeply happen. Bonnitta Royoffers a great peek into looking at the organisation as a 

more about augmenting interconnectedness than collective intelligence .. bonnitta‘s hr talk.. et al


54 min – b: the spontaneously speaking self is actually a wonderful thing..

and that’s a big insight

so let’s just focus on that.. ie: self-talk as unconditional data to get back/to simultaneous spontaneity .. simultaneous fittingness.. everyone in sync..

This led us to think that we may need to transcend the idea of convergence — if not forever, for now — and continue to build a process accommodating for diverging ideas and diversity of viewpoints.

yes that..

listen & connect to undo the listening hierarchy ie: 2 convers as infra

ie: tech as it could be

perhaps we really can have tech w/o judgment

as linked above.. lisa’s podcast:

[#podcasts] Special Episode on our #BoundarylessConversations with  @instigating reflecting on the “no more” and “not yet”: a sweet spot for innovators and builders of new ways of organising and enterprising in the 21st century Listen more
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with lisa

4 min – lisa: we’re in this inflection point of no more and not yet.. and we need to make a leap very quickly

ie: leap

8 min – simone: can the no more create the not yet.. how does existing org embrace the not yet

i don’t think so.. ie: thinking restate/update 7.18.

10 min – lisa: capitalism: optimization of capturing value.. risk associated has been skewed.. co’s haven’t invented in long time so just squeezing juice from fruit (then on kodak missing the opp)

14 min – lisa: if going to work.. need co’s to invite new ideas

deeper.. need new/old ideas of org ing in the first place.. that makes co’s irrelevant

16 min – lisa: i’m very skeptical now.. because culture that invites curiosity is very diff

yeah that.. ie: cure ios city

17 min – s: gap also on skill side

18 min – lisa: corps w lots of assets.. and appear to have lot of value.. confuse assets/accumulation w value

19 min – lisa: if world changing faster than we can learn.. then.. how fast can we learn – if my goal was to surround self w right kinds of questions/people.. how would we shape ourselves.. how would we navigate to discover..t

shape: 2 convers as infra

lisa: on fear when something happens that wasn’t part of plan.. can be curious or shrink down.. fear is a closing off.. curiosity is opp.. opens us up

so let’s structure around curiosity

but has to be 8b daily curiosities  .. or won’t work because curiosities won’t be legit.. won’t be best questions .. gatherings.. et al

22 min – lisa: the more likely to lean in.. and ask.. what do you mean by that.. then deeply into a whole other nature

idio-jargon et al

23 min – lisa: as someone who’s lived in the not yet.. there’s a bs about that as well.. even though i reach out in extraordinary ways.. i realize when things happen like this in the world.. that i haven’t reached out enough.. there’s whole levels society/challenges.. that are completely foreign to me..t so big part of business of agility is the empathy of understanding *how to listen to each other when we don’t understand any of the words..t

*begs we focus on non hierarchical listening

let’s make a means/mech/tech/ai for that

**idio-jargon et al

24 min – lisa: i have yet to see anywhere where the no more has been a birth place of the not yet

humanity needs a leap.. to get back/to simultaneous spontaneity .. simultaneous fittingness.. everyone in sync..

25 min – lisa: how do we become successful.. like the virus.. able to spread and have impact..t

by focusing on a problem/desire deep enough that 8b people already resonate with (just like virus affects us all).. ie: climate change doesn’t resonate with all of us.. virus doesn’t even.. so imagine if we found a focus that deep.. we’d leap exponentially faster than even the virus

roots of healing et al

26 min – lisa: we can ask a lot of questions about who we need to bring into the mix to have those interactions but the reality is that a lot of the power, the historical power, which is largely bound up in infra..lives in the no more..t

again.. begs we focus on a means for non hierarchical listening

27 min – stina: on communication structure mirrors way org is organized.. when you talk about connecting communities and having impact.. that’s where things have been siloed..

29 min – lisa: a lot of these public good orgs have been very slow..

30 min – lisa: if community of peers rather than bosses.. it’s a fundamentally different way

leaders ness

31 min – lisa: culture in one doesn’t work in other.. how can we act in ways to bring not yet forward.. w confidence/trust/peace.. it’s not going to be the fantasy that we understand what our future looks like.. but calling people forward who have been experimenting..we have to find the mech that allows for us to understand how we go forward from here..t now that we’ve seen this (virus ness) what do we do about it

mech simple enough – for 8b people to access/use/desire today

to (virus) leap.. et al

34 min – lisa: i think that’s the dance.. the interdependence is clear.. local/global ness

zoom dance ness

35 min – lisa: a lot of work we’ve done in last 10 yrs is about trust.. so the need to lean in on empathy.. if we are we.. bunched into same bucket.. if them .. i don’t care..

thurman interconnectedness lawwhen you understand interconnectedness it makes you more afraid of hating than of dying – Robert Thurman (@BobThurman)

37 min – lisa: i think what drives learning is friction.. if only talking to people that already agree with us.. really no learning.. need to find edges of our comfort level

new connections .. everyday.. as agile/diverse as our daily curiosity

38 min – simone on new ways of working.. and collective intelligence practice.. so what makes the case for an institution.. how is it going to be

collective intelligence ness.. keeps us thinking we know .. we can predict.. and like lisa just said.. we need to let go of that knowing ness.. that’s what causes the overwhelming ness.. too much et al

more about augmenting interconnectedness than collective intelligence

40 min – lisa: in order to have governance that will be a coordinating body.. are institutions necessary.. because infra has way of creating diff way of trust

i’d say no to institutions if we have the right infra

42 min – lisa: i think the not yet relates to infra and an understanding of trust

findings – trust is huge.. and it’s not trust if it’s not 100%/unconditional.. another reason we need to leap

43 min – simone: on zizek and what we can learn from looking at china

44 min – lisa: so you’re saying if go tech trading liberty for security

let’s go for both.. ie: gershenfeld something else law

45 min – lisa: cultures are shaping what’s possible.. us sees everything as individuals.. ie: leave me alone.. so rules seem against fundamental aspect of being american.. chinese see better good for society.. in uk tracker apps around covid seen from pov of privacy.. not taking away liberty like in us and not for better good as in asia.. so i guess one of challenges .. how do we create global trans cultural standards at same time respecting biases of cultures that are diff.. not trying to make everything follow one solution

by making that one solution.. flexible enough for 8b daily curiosities

47 min – lisa: i’m curious.. how do we accelerate the not yet.. what’s the mech .. i think we’re at that opp moment..t

me too..

mech: cure ios city

lisa: there’s a way to do it from autocratic ie: this is way it’s going to be.. and in decentralized/open society it works in really diff way

so we create an infra that facils both (all the) ways..

ie: 33 min is how it’s going to be (at least until we get back in sync).. focusing on (listening to) 8b daily curiosities is how it stays distributive/flexible/open

54 min – lisa: test and field models that leverage the tools we have but not disregarding each other..t

mufleh humanity lawwe have seen advances in every aspect of our lives except our humanity– Luma Mufleh

and today we have means for that.. ie: tech as it could be.. getting us back/to non hierarchicial listening to selves/others/nature

55 min – simone: on overwhelming ness of all this

58 min – lisa: on the overwhelming ness.. i’ve tried to find myself where i’m planted.. goes back to comment of local reality.. with systemic/global challenges.. have to start where we are

thinking restate/update 7.18..

59 min – lisa: the idea of a global observatory is an important first step.. building in.. what does trust.. what do orgs.. look like.. build a coalition of participants via observatory.. because we need to build a language/understanding of what we’re addressing.. what does infra look like in terms of where we’re heading

but then like you said before.. we don’t lean in then..

why not build the infra so that language is irrelevant ie: one based on idio-jargon

because.. language as control/enclosure et al

1:00 – simone: what does future of org ing look like from here.. it looks like an observatory

that’s where we were 10 yrs ago.. not deep enough.. has to be all of our voices.. everyday

1:01 – lisa: i’m intrigued by idea of creating an observatory together with you guys and maybe some of the listeners

let’s go deeper