simona ferlini
intro’d to simona via nika dubrovsky and david graeber‘s museum of care and the museum of care meetings.. et al.. ie: simona on decision making; simona on fragments;.. solidarity..
adding page because she keeps saying things i want to doc (ha).. ie: her twitter blurb:
It’s everybody, or no one. If we can’t dance, it’s not my revolution.
and
I would not stand for an idea of legit needs that doesn’t include dance, idleness, and play
huge.. huge.. huge
the dance won’t dance unless it’s all of us.. for (blank)’s sake
we need a means for 8b people to leap to a legit nother way to live (aka: all the ways.. everyday anew)
_________
other poignant/resonating quotes/tweets.. et al:
Art, like life, should not be paid – nobody should be obliged to “earn a life” – you earn a life by living. Art just points out, with its very existence, that you live (and make art) for free.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/SimonaFerlini/status/1418270735806631942
art (by day/light) and sleep (by night/dark) as re\set.. to fittingness/undisturbed ecosystem
@marekfuller @nikadubrovsky @semiotexts @svdfrkh These interrupted #possibilities of love, interwoven thoughts, common spaces, are ours to claim back and redeem – by subverting the order that makes them impossible
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/SimonaFerlini/status/1421444867369152516
________
while reading david on creative refusal – last page (16):
so it’s all/always been sea world.. so maybe now simona‘s tweet about dawn of everything makes sense:
The battle @davidgraeber and @davidwengrow fight in *The Dawn of Everything* is not so much about historical revision, as it is about getting rid of the illusion of a one-shot revolution that takes us back to a single ideal past.
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/SimonaFerlini/status/1423554211258712067
not that there was a perfect time to go back to.. because all history was/is played out in sea world.. but that doesn’t mean we can’t leap to ie: eudaimonia\tive surplus.. to an undisturbed ecosystem (not a one shot revolution.. a revolution in reverse.. a revolution of everyday life.. revolution as instigating utopia everyday
1\ undisturbed ecosystem (common\ing) can happen
2\ if we create a way to ground the chaos of 8b free people
ginormous diff
let’s be that creative in our refusal.. ie: a nother way
_________
m of care – sept 9 – simona on spinoza
__________
@nikadubrovsky 1/ “Revolution is happened when there is a transformation of common sense”, and in this meeting you and @davidgraeber discussed the potential for transformation towards #FreedomAndCare embedded in the pandemic crisis https://t.co/RQ7Elnk6D2
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1441760095751139352
__________
twitter convo in regard to deep dive
___________
org around legit needs via tech as it could be.. as a means to undo our hierarchical listening
To survive, we must stop producing just for the sake of producing, and start self-conscious production – that is: start asking ourselves what are legitimate needs to fulfill
And organize around legitimate needs https://t.co/Q2VGNnuWtt
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1463767030000201738
simona’s quote tweet from this:
‘to elucidate the means, sensibility, and practice that could yield a truly harmonious ecological society’ murray bookchin ecology of freedom (& post scarcity anarchism)
org around legit needs.. via tech as it could be.. as a means to undo our hierarchical listening
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/monk51295/status/1463521462153744393
then this quote tweet:
More: means to be aware of the hierarchical patterns of our relationships and behaviors, and forget about getting rid of power relationships at once. https://t.co/55Y3uvs4eG
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1463768001321349127
from this:
‘to use hierarchy/class/state interchangeably..could conceal existence of hierarch relationships/sensibility..both of which..even in absence of econ exploit or political coercion would serve to perpetuate unfreedom’ bookchin eof
need: means to undo hierarchical listening
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/monk51295/status/1463524423789518854
and then this quote tweet:
The question is: how? Who and how decides what’s a legit need and what isn’t?
Can we imagine a form of #DirectAction strike, where workers refuse to do useless and harmful jobs, and do instead something useful for the community? https://t.co/sewtmkzYrI
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1463848861944979461
from this:
To survive, we must stop producing just for the sake of producing, and start self-conscious production – that is: start asking ourselves what are legitimate needs to fulfill
And organize around legitimate needs https://t.co/Q2VGNnuWtt
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1463767030000201738
to her question:
The question is: how? Who and how decides what’s a legit need and what isn’t?
Can we imagine a form of #DirectAction strike, where workers refuse to do useless and harmful jobs, and do instead something useful for the community?
that’s been our problem.. not listening/pausing deep enough to grok legit needs.. ie: beyond ‘useful’ and ‘harmless’ jobs.. et al.. beyond ‘work‘ ness..
so we keep spending/wasting our energy on non legit irrelevant s
and so perpetuating tragedy of the non common
_________
simona spinoza scholar.. ie: m of care – jan 13 et al
_________
from simona on fragments page..
via simona ferlini fb share:
Included in the details of life under siege, is DG’s ‘Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology’
Thank you for this wonderful article. I admire the writer’s ability to keep studying and thinking under the bombs, and their observations connecting #Fragments of an anarchist anthropology to real life self-organization in a shelter are priceless.
My take on what the author says: imo he misses one point of David’s discourse on self-organization: self-organization is spontaneous (as soon as there is no authority people start self-organizing, and is quite good at it), *but is far from being “natural”. Rather, it’s the ever changing result of negotiations, conflicts and agreements. It’s a series of social arrangements that **need to be constantly worked out (as described in The Dawn of Everything, ch. 11 if I remember well), and it can and should be a collective work: ***you don’t need any Moises /Solon style Legislator for it.
i think spont self org (undisturbed ecosystem ness et al) is *natural.. our blindness is from only observing/being whales in sea world.. so we think it’s not natural.. and we insist on the **working it out ness.. which just messes/compromises the dance.. again.. perpetuating our blindness.. we have no idea what legit free people are like.. ***and again.. don’t need an form of people telling other people what to do.. any form of m\a\p.. we just think we need those things in sea world.. because myth of tragedy and lord verifies that thinking
this is no small detail.. this is huge.. because it’s keeping us from us
*Unless we collectively and self-consciously work them out, our social arrangements are most likely to reproduce the patterns, and, on the not-so-long run, the hierarchies we are accustomed to. A clear example is barter: the recourse to cigarettes in the place of money that the author describes is the same process described in Debt ch. 2 (The myth of the barter): exchanges and cooperation are regulated in many possible ways in human groups, and anthropologists have found almost no evidence of barter, but for people accustomed to regulate exchanges through money, which, when money is missing, resort to barter.
*this is about the need for detox.. we do need detox.. we need an unnatural means to undo our hierarchical listening.. but spont self org is not the unnatural thing
notes/quotes from articel by Evheny Osievsky (mar 24 2022)
Yet, it was the Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology by Leftist social theoretician David Graeber that provided the most productive foil for my Vorzel’ experience.
Vorzel’ under Russian occupation witnessed the simultaneous unfolding of several directly opposite processes. Crisis, it appears, reveals both the best and the worst that people are and can be. (refers to spont self org vs shops not selling needed things).. Cigarettes transformed into a universal currency, while paper money lost all its value and meaning.
Life under occupation goes on. If not exactly uninterrupted, then at least untamed. Throughout the time of isolation, a new couple emerged in our shelter (in defiance of a two-week-long absence of a shower). Fifteen children were born in the maternity hospital down the street.
__________
@scottsgonetopot @SirPaulHartley @davidgraeber The crucial question for me is: does it really exist an “outside the machinery”?
One that can at least potentially exist and work for everybody?
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1546424384994295808
hari rat park law et al
@scottsgonetopot @SirPaulHartley @davidgraeber IMO
– “either inside or outside” is a false alternative
– capitalism is a system, not the bad will of some bad guys
– rather than of “States” we should think in terms of fields of forces and their interactions
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1546492186757414914
need a legit other.. ie: a nother way
_________
_________
_________
________
_______
_______
find/follow simona:
It’s everybody, or no one. If we can’t dance, it’s not my revolution.
bologna italy
she’s part of the housekeeping committee for museum.care.. https://museum.care/housekeeping-committee/:
Simona Ferlini is a political philosopher and public servant of the health care system, a mother and a cook,
a real Italian and a real friend.
Among other duties, she is an active member of the Reading Group and the Documentary “Decision Making”. She will take care of cooking and nurturing, of room temperature, and of gossiping.
she was also a member of DiEM25 Coordinating collective
diem25 et al
_________
via simona fb and tweet [https://twitter.com/sonmi451it/status/1654477477723402240?s=20]
links to her post (in itlian – so quotes are translation) may 2023 – Exorcising David Graeber – [https://nozionicomuni.blogspot.com/2023/05/esorcizzando-david-graeber.html]
it is easy to mistake his study-accessible language for simplicity, his provocations for baseless boutades, or even, in extreme cases, his irony for approval of the thing he is ironic about..t
this is not ridiculous ness.. olivier wrong about you law.. graeber make it diff law.. et al
Speaking of evidence: no, science is not done, as you said, with concepts. Science is made with the data of experience (evidence, in fact), formulating concepts and theories that are capable of accounting for them, of showing us new aspects, and of explaining them; and this is exactly what the two authors do: propose a concept of human nature based on the available evidence. Knowing full well that this concept based on evidence is also a simplification (“social theory necessarily always implies a bit of simplification”, they say in chapter 1, what we must do is not forget it and not get stuck on a single simplification)
yeah.. that’s huge.. still in sea world.. so not evidence of legit free people.. et al
Again: “the new science of humanity” proposed by Graeber and Wengrow can be discussed, of course. We can discuss whether, at all, such a science is even possible, whether we can say something true in general about human beings, and what this possibility (or this impossibility) entails: much of the anthropological debate aroused by the previous works of Graeber was about this issue, for example. Or we can discuss whether the evidence that the two bring in support of their theses is sufficient or insufficient to prove them. Or if there is no contradiction between maintaining that human beings have always enjoyed certain freedoms to the point of taking them for granted and maintaining that we have lost them today. All this can and must be done, but text in hand, and with a contradictory,
to me.. just that we have two basic needs.. (maté basic needs).. and that if we’d org around those legit needs.. 8bn (aka: all) of us would be legit free
1\ undisturbed ecosystem (common\ing) can happen
2\ if we create a way to ground the chaos of 8b legit free people
If your seminar had foreseen an honest space for a debate and a contradictory I would have made these objections to you there, and perhaps it would have been interesting to discuss them. Since this is not the case, and at the same time your operation represents a discreet “summa” of the clumsy attempts to exorcise Graeber, I’ll move them here, who knows if this doesn’t turn out to be a slightly more open space for comparison.
need 1st/most: means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature ie: tech as it could be
________
via simona fb comment via this fb share – Game-Over Theory: What Drove the Defeat of a European Radical Movement by Arturo Desimone 28 May 2023 – [https://www.sublationmag.com/post/game-over-theory-diem25]:
One clarification: I did not resign “after the revelation of spousal privilege”: from the Italian National Collective, I resigned to denounce the situation you describe – lack of internal democracy, crucial decisions entrusted to unchecked plenipotentiaries – which was already in place back then (2018), but seemed reversible, and to ask for a change of course.
I run and was elected to the CC elections precisely in the hope to bring this most needed change, fought very hard for it, and gave up in February 2021, when “The Office” managed to get rid of one of our most promising activists, Brice Montagne, and it became clear that a change of course was not possible.
This time, though, unlike three years earlier, I did so quietly, partly because I was exhausted (fighting an enemy is exciting, but having to fight and being fought by comrades is simply painful), partly because I did not want to do DiEM25 more damage than Γιάνης and The Office were already doing (to my opinion, without understanding they were), and mostly because it was clear to me that the situation was beyond repair, and there was no point in discussing it.
so resonating
I felt, it is true, that I owed you members an explanation, but I also thought that the situation was already very clear for everybody, and I was just the one who had kept hoping and struggling the longest, like a japanese kamikaze.
Overall, I agree with your analysis, and I’d have many points to add along the lines of it (I might do so, one of this days). On one point, though, I disagree with it: it’s not about nepotism, it’s about a control-freak attitude that endows a very small number of people with blind trust (“blind trust” is the internal CC mantra), and distrusts the rest of the world. Being in the CC felt like being in a besieged citadel: the besiegers were all those stupid members who wanted to contribute, and I was openly treated (not by Yanis) as one doing an inside job for the besiegers. There is no personal nepotism on the side of Yanis, who is a good and honest man, but what results in nepotism is a logical consequence of DiEM25’s and Yanis’ fundamental flaw, call it illuminism or call it not understanding that “if you are the smartest in the room, you are in the wrong room”.
I retrieved the same attitude in the Maoist guerrilla described in Alpa Shah’s Nightmarch, and I think this is a quintessential illuministic flaw: heroic intellectuals of good will who sacrifice themselves to do the good of the people, but do not think that the people can do their own good on their own. At least, yet, Indian maoist have very good reasons to work on a very small circle trust basis.
huge huge
ferlini heroic flaw law
Therefore, Yanis’ tweet saddened me for the lack of a proper political analysis and of a most needed assessment of what could have been done better, but didn’t surprise me at all. He has a recipe to save the world, and any rational human being, as soon as they understand it, should follow him and help cooking. If they don’t, it can only be because they are misguided or deluded.
yeah.. i don’t know if he’s going deep enough for it to ..
As a matter of fact, his is the quintessential leftist attitude, or at least the quintessential leftist coordinator class (as in Michael Albert) attitude, and shows all the weaknesses of it.
________
simona made this little event happen: conference on david’s dismantling myths for new alt – october 2025
_________
________
________
________
be you. 