primavera de filippi
intro’d to Primavera via this share from Michel (oct 2015):
From Competition to Cooperation | Primavera De Filippi | TEDxCambridge
on pyramids et al – not via collective intelligence.. rather.. a few powerful at top driving many to do work3 min – on competition very inefficient for allocation of resources… competition as something we created.imagine people coordinating self – in much more self-organized manner
5 min – how can we leverage tech… perhaps it’s blockchain..
6 min – bitcoin only one out of many possibilities8 min – blockchain – on ability to make the system work via coop..- what internet did for communication.. blockchain could do for collaboration
12 min – competition is not part of human nature.. competition is dominant strategy today.. but doesn’t have to be that waywe could make cooperation a much more profitable strategy13 min – blockchain as orchestration of coop future
Primavera De Filippi on Ethereum: Freenet or Skynet?
5 min – bitcoin basically proved that it’s possible to have a working de centralized currency system… thing is.. really interesting thing about bitcoin isn’t the currency.. but underlying tech – cryptographic ledger blockchain.. could be used in a variety of diff apps that don’t have anything to do with money..8 min – smart contract… removes need for trust.. because self enforceable.. ie: like a vending machine10 min – most interesting aspect of ethereum – de centralized autonomized organization14 min – challenges: 1\contract law 2\ property law 3\ liability/responsibility
16 min – can operate outside these laws…
smart property – transfer ownership.. by transferring designed coin/token – cryptographically activated assets…18 min – property – defined/enforced by code rather than law? – so sovereignty over own resources.. but can’t be seen by anyone..19 min – lessig – code is law… so .. now .. if code is law.. how can law regulate code so it regulates our behavior in a way compliant w/law
do we need a distinct body of law for this… regulation of robots20 min – on copyrighted song.. we pay 1 dollar for.. who’s responsible for that… problem is difficult to identity creator.. who might not have control.. so perhaps the users should be reliable for payment…22 min – so perhaps org itself should be reliable.. for enforcement..
22 min – legal limbo.. so do we need it.. we decided that we don’t..
23 min – ethereum of base of currency.. anarchic idea of decentralized law… transparent.. always predictable.. doesn’t require trust..
24 min – benkler – no perfect freedoms just different kinds of constraints
25 min – email31 min – trust judge?
42 min – on need for court system… when you have a dispute.. which you’d need to do w/in ethereum.. only group i can see that would want it are a group of anarchists – (girl in the room)
48 min – blockchain doesn’t have to be currency/bitcoin.. it can work with anything you come up with
51 min – ethereum is just one.. it’s getting us thinking about blockchain bases52 min – on being able to try other govt’s
55 min – man in room explaining how law suits fit into this..
1:00 – ethereum is actually quite easily to control by state..1:08 – on – will we just be building the current legal system on ethereum..
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Primavera De Filippi is a permanent researcher at the National Center of Scientific Research (CNRS) in Paris. She is faculty associate at the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School, where she is investigating the concept of “governance-by-design” as it relates to online distributed architectures. Most of her research focuses on the legal challenges raised, and faced by emergent decentralized technologies —such as Bitcoin, Ethereum and other blockchain-based applications —and how these technologies could be used to design new governance models capable of supporting large-scale decentralized collaboration and more participatory decision-making.
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blockchain and future of work feb 2016 – 25 min video
@profcarroll
How do decentralized autonomous organizations on the #blockchain even work? @yaoeo eloquently explains in 20mins youtu.be/PN-JLKBiVGY
the function of intermediories is no longer to create value but rather to coord individuals and aggregate value into one service…
how can we make those intermediories obsolete… the blockchain….
what is real function of intermediory… to create trust… w/blockchain… possible to move function of trust away from operator and toward tech.. so people can interact as long as they rust the tech…
trust is actually a feature.. something we are craving for… ie: uber.. i wan tto trust the driver… something the blockchain by itself can’t provide… market relies on trustless architecture…
backfeed… a distributed govt system…if blockchain regarded as kind of decentralized computer… backfeed os that runs on this decentralized computer… to make them io with each other…
1\ consensus protocol – proof of value.. not based on algo… but rathe ron action that can be evaluated in p2p manner… and rewarded according to value
2\ reputational system… influence depneds on contribution and alignment with value system
3\ econ model based on tokenization.. so companies can issue on own tokens…
when combine 3 ingredients.. can create for autonomous decent collab orgs…
8 min – block chain also allows for
lot of talk but no orgs.. to i created plantoid..1\ capitalisation – begging people for money 2\ reproduction.. how envision next version… those funded.. can vote on selected project.. weighted by amt of funds… come up with who winner is… 3\ hiring phase…winner in charge of new plantoid.. and whole process starts over again… get royalties from descendants… so original want their plantoid to be really good..
creates possibility for new business models.. independent on copyright… remix is encouraged… better descendent… more return… ie: funding art piece to hire people to work on itself…
who’s liable if damage… so how to regulate.. so developers need to start thinking about legal/ethical/political implications…
so important to figure this out… so we can put into tech itself..
dang. was excited by first sentence: the function of intermediories is no longer to create value but rather to coord individuals and aggregate value into one service… but rest sounds like steroid/tech version of same old..
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2:30 sf (3:30 den) – Panel: As we build a new Decentralized Web, how (do we bake values into code) – with Primavera
amber case – calm tech – @caseorganicneed to add new design criteria.. how to make it harder for institutionalization to happen around de cent structure.. figure how we can design distributed govt system..- primavera
let’s fix our existing democracy before try to build a new one – ie: work out way to hire ie: people in this room – make appealing to work w govt…. i don’t know if developers are good model for a new system.. we tend to follow tech to limits.. and i don’t know if limit of tech is best for society.. in general if tech has a social mission… then maybe we wouldn’t push to limits.. – max ogden @denormalizeextreme focus on de cent itself.. if not protected from system.. then not going to be what you thought.. primevera..any publicly funded info.. should be free.. we are losing research outputs everyday -we made a system that’s maybe too de cent.. need a mech to find duplicates.. max
allowing communities to create their own archival voices – how to let communities take power @pjvangarderen
how do we make this real – poly fill – to emulate the future – fork browser.. go and make prototypes.. – maxone wish:everyone in room w idea learns how to pitch it to funders – max
try to figure out how all projects can interact with each other.. how to connect dots – primavera
happiness and self fulfillment.. uni access to info is one way to get there..- peterengage in successful collective action – union – to work together – wendy
good article by Primavera De Filippi:
“Blockchain technology thus facilitates the emergence of new forms of organizations, which are not only dematerialized but also decentralized. These organizations — which have no director or CEO, or any sort of hierarchical structure — are administered, collectively, by all individuals interacting on a blockchain. As such, it is important not to confuse them with the traditional model of “crowd-sourcing,” where people contribute to a platform but do not benefit from the success of that platform. Blockchain technologies can support a much more cooperative form of crowd-sourcing — sometimes referred to as “platform cooperativism”— where users qualify both as contributors and shareholders of the platforms to which they contribute. And since there is no intermediary operator, the value produced within these platforms can be more equally redistributed among those who have contributed to the value creation.”
With this new opportunity for increased “cooperativism,” we’re moving toward a true *sharing or collaborative economy — one that is not controlled by a few large intermediary operators, but that is governed by and for the people.
most of the promises and dreams of the early internet days faded away, as big giants formed and took control over our digital landscape.
*Today we have a new opportunity to fulfill these promises. Blockchain technology makes it possible to replace the model of top-down hierarchical organizations with a system of distributed, bottom-up cooperation. This shift could change the way wealth is distributed in the first place, **enabling people to cooperate toward the creation of a common good, while ensuring that everyone will be duly compensated for their efforts and contributions.
*not if we keep basing everything on measuring transaction..
**what if those (common and compensation) don’t dance.. and we’re sabotaging from the get go fo blockchain ness
i don’t think most of us realize the potential.. to really change things up.. a new experiment..
it behooves us all to engage and experiment with this emergent technology, to explore the *new opportunities it provides and deploy large, successful, community-driven applications that enable us to resist the formation of blockchain giants.
agree.. let’s go *deeper than measuring transactions.. a nother way
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on value
Primavera De Filippi (@yaoeo) tweeted at 7:32 PM on Tue, Mar 13, 2018:
Value is like love. You cannot measure it objectively, you cannot store it for later, and most importantly, you cannot transfer it.
(https://twitter.com/yaoeo/status/973733629321973762?s=03)
nice..
grazie
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Michel Bauwens (@mbauwens) tweeted at 4:57 AM – 28 May 2019 :
Primavera De Filippi on Blockchain Technology and the Future of Work https://t.co/adpeV8WdMuhttps://t.co/oH6esvZuCC(http://twitter.com/mbauwens/status/1133326406472032256?s=17)
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via michel [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1713826150613647469?s=20]:
Primavera de Filippi:
“Beyonders simply refuse to engage with existing institutions: they do not want to fight them nor do they want to change them, they simply regard them as a leftover from a past era—which they are trying to render obsolete by building new systems (Hintz & Milan 2011). Thus, relatively to the other two groups, beyonders operate in a way that is more autonomous or independent; they do not play for or against the established political system, they just decide to ignore it or bypass it.
Is it fair to conclude that beyonders do not play a political role in society? Clearly not. By creating an alternative to existing institutions, they exert an indirect pressure forcing them to adjust themselves to maintain their position. Perhaps more so than insiders and outsiders, who operate within a given political framework, beyonders are deeply concerned with social change. Their political action is the result of a constructive reaction to the current state of affairs. They are responding to their own needs using new schemes and methodologies, leveraging the power of communities to create new institutions that will help them fulfill their missions—through what essentially amounts to a new form of political organisation.”
notes/quotes from linked article – (apr 2018) by primevera – Cloud Communities: The Dawn of Global Citizenship? – Citizenship in the Era of Blockchain-Based Virtual Nations:
When brought to an extreme, blockchain technology could create—simultaneously—a utopian society characterized by greater individual freedom and autonomy, and a dystopian society driven by market-based incentives and self-dealing. But reality is neither black or white; it often has many different shades of gray. I see blockchain technology as neither the cure nor the curse of today’s political issues. Rather, I see it as a tool that could enable us to experiment with new governance structures and alternative political systems—in a world where there is very little room left for experimentation.
The beyonders, like Bitnation et al., eager to use the technology to support the coordination of transnational communities of voluntary association that operate independently of traditional nation-states, but are capable of peacefully coexisting with them. It is the latter which I am the most excited about, and which I believe could contribute to developing new governance models that might help us build a real global democracy.
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. to facil a legit global detox leap.. for (blank)’s sake.. and we’re missing it
any way with any form of m\a\p will not be facil ing legit free people.. rather .. same song of voluntarily complianced whales in sea world
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via michel bauwens tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1803962834956751353]:
* Four articles on Global Governance and ‘new network sovereignties’: “as the world grapples with the implications of digital innovation, the notion of voluntary virtual self-sovereign political communities has gained further prominence, reshaping traditional notions of governance and sovereignty. This online symposium builds upon the foundation laid by this previous symposium on Cloud Communities, and delves into the emerging paradigms of Network States and New Network Sovereignties. This symposium explores how communities or groups leverage digital technologies, particularly blockchain, to expand their sovereignty, transcending physical and geopolitical borders, to achieve what we refer to as ‘new network sovereignties’.” globalgovernanceprogramme.eui.eu/new-network-so
articles by primavera de filippi.. vitalik buterin.. michel bauwens.. and nathan schneider on network sovereignties
1\ primavera on network sovereignties
lots of wording i could go on.. (ie: groups leverage digital technologies, particularly blockchain, to expand their sovereignty, transcending physical and geopolitical borders, to achieve what we refer to as ‘new network sovereignties).. but embedded in wording (ie: sovereignty, govt, state) that would keep it all same song
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primavera on blockchain governance
primavera on commons movement ness
primavera on network sovereignties
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