edward snowden

edward snowden bw

intro’d to him as Glenn interviewed him about his whistleblowing.

letter to Edward from Rebecca:

a letter to snowden

parts of letter below.. do click image above for entire letter:

Our lack of privacy, their monstrous privacy—even their invasion of our privacy must, by law, remain classified—is what you made visible. The agony of a monster with nowhere to stand—you are accused of spying on the spies, of invading the privacy of their invasion of privacy—is a truly curious thing. And it is changing the world. Europe and South America are in an uproar, and attempts to contain you and your damage are putting out fire with gasoline.


Those who demonize you show, as David Bromwich pointed out in a fine essay in the London Review of Books, their submission to the power you exposed.

“This country is worth dying for,” you said in explanation of your great risks. You were trained as a soldier, but a soldier’s courage with a thinker’s independence of mind is a dangerous thing; a hero is a dangerous thing. That’s why the US military has made the Guardian, the British newspaper that has done the key reporting on your leaks, off limits to our soldiers overseas. Whoever made that cynical censorship decision understands that those soldiers may be defending a set of interests at odds with this country and its Constitution, and they need to be kept in the dark about that. The dark from which you emerged.

There is no one as dangerous as he or she who has nothing to lose.

Sometimes one person changes the world. This should make most of us hopeful and some of them fearful, because what I am also saying is that we now live in a world of us and them, a binary world.  It’s not the old world of capitalism versus communism, but of the big versus the little, of oligarchy versus democracy, of hierarchies versus swarms, of corporations versus public interest and civil society.

We know our fate is common and that we live it out together and change it together, only together.

Someday you may be regarded as a Mandela of sorts for the information age, or perhaps a John Brown, someone who refused to fit in, to bow down, to make a system work that shouldn’t work, that should explode. And perhaps we’re watching it explode.

The match is sacrificed to start the fire. So maybe, Edward Snowden, you’re a sacrifice.  In the process, you’ve lit a bonfire out of their secrecy and spying, a call to action.

I fear for you, but your gift gives us hope and your courage, an example. Our loyalty should be to our ideals, because they are a threat to the secret system you’ve exposed, because we have to choose between the two. Right now you embody that threat, just as you embody those ideals. For which I am grateful, for which everyone who is not embedded in that system should be grateful.

snowden and greewald post


citizen four & snowden


Snowden addressing sxsw 2014:

snowden at sxsw

“[T]he people who are in the room at Austin right now, they’re the folks who can really fix things, who can enforce our rights for technical standards even when Congress hasn’t yet gotten to the point of creating legislation that protect our rights in the same manner…,” he said. “There’s a policy response that needs to occur, but there’s also a technical response that needs to occur. And it’s the makers, the thinkers, the developing community that can really craft those solutions to make sure we’re safe.”

The massive surveillance being done by the NSA and other governments has created “an adversarial internet,” he said, “a sort of a global free-fire zone for governments, that’s nothing that we ever asked [for]; it’s not what we wanted. It’s something we need to protect against….

“[T]hey’re setting fire to the future of the internet. And the people who are in this room now, you guys are all the firefighters. And we need you to help us fix this.”


find/follow Edward:

wikipedia small

Edward Joseph “Ed” Snowden is an exiled American computer specialist and former CIA employee and NSA contractor who disclosed classified details of several top-secret United States and British government mass surveillance programs to the press.




sunday, june 9, 2013

edward snowden

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-whyhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillanceBryan Alexander (@BryanAlexander)
6/8/13 6:55 AM
Metadata and the NSA story: Mayer’s excellent article on how and way it matters,newyorker.com/online/blogs/n…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_DrakeOn June 9, 2011, all 10 original charges against him were dropped. Drake rejected several deals because he refused to “plea bargain with the truth”. He eventually pled to one misdemeanor count for exceeding authorized use of a computer;[10] Jesselyn Radack of the Government Accountability Project, who helped represent him, called it an act of “civil disobedience.[11]Anne McCrossan (@Annemcx)
6/8/13 7:15 AM
RT ‘Is this who runs #prism?’ very interesting article talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/…http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/edward-snowden-in-hong-kong/276692/http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/06/guardian-reporter-glenn-greenwald-blasts-calls-for-leak-prosecutions/
Dianne Feinstein – saying if there’s a better way…

all creates ire… so we could keep fighting.. or cut to the chase.. people could come clean
if they had a plan
people just don’t have a plan – so they keep fighting fire with fire
and tightening ridiculous securities
and turning good intentions – corrupt
such a fractal of the school, et al

tuesday, june 11, 2013

tweets – trust

douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff)
6/10/13 6:36 AM
Hero Snowden – Human Intervenes on Machine Logic. Wrote this last night for CNN. Sneak preview:rushkoff.com/blog/2013/6/10…
Yet it wasn’t just fear keeping people from talking about the growing cyber-surveillance state, but a sense of inevitability. This is just how technology evolves – at least when it’s uncontested. Everyone knows, or should know, that everything we type on our computers or say into our cell phones is being disseminated throughout the datasphere. And most of it is recorded and parsed by big data servers. Why do you think Gmail and Facebook are free? You think they’re corporate gifts? We pay with our data.
This is just how everything runs when it’s left on “default” setting
Ed Snowden is a hero because he realized that our very humanity was being compromised by the blind implementation of machines in the name of making us safe. Unlike those around him, who were too absorbed in their task to reflect on their actions and pause in their pursuit of digital omniscience, Snowden allowed himself to be “disturbed” by what he was doing. More in the midst of technology than most of us will ever be, Snowden disengaged for long enough to be human, and to consider the impact of what he was helping to build. He pressed pause.
Jennifer Sertl (@JenniferSertl)
6/10/13 6:37 AM
Brilliant! The New Node Is A Talent Cluser fastcompany.com/3012598/how-ta… by @faisal_hoquewho happens to be in mine #a3r

Clusters follow rules, just like hierarchical structures do such as accountability, reward systems, and measurements.

dang.. great idea.. but that just killed it. for. me.

but from the ability to adapt and move more quickly than competing species

ie… what if there are no competing species…j
Venessa Miemis (@VenessaMiemis)
6/10/13 7:04 AM
Creating Twenty-First Century Life-Enhancing Societies | Spiritual Ecology:spiritualecology.org/article/creati…
Arrested personal growth serves industrial “growth.”
Arrested personal growth serves industrial “growth.” By suppressing the nature dimension of human development (through educational systems, social values, advertising, nature-eclipsing vocations and pastimes, city and suburb design, denatured medical and psychological practices, and other means), Industrial Growth Society engenders an immature citizenry unable to imagine a life beyond consumerism and soul-suppressing jobs.
Too many of us lack intimacy with the natural world and with our souls, and consequently we are doing untold damage to both.
Deb Mills-Scofield (@dscofield)
6/11/13 6:39 AM
.@Leadershipfreak 13 Behaviors that Forge Resilient Organizationsow.ly/2xv8up

13. Extend trust. Extend trust abundantly to those who have earned it. Extend trust conditionally to those who are earning it.

lovely.. until this last one.
wondering if that’s not the elephant in the room..
if that’s not why we keep on keeping on..
trust to me.. spaces of permission with nothing to prove.
yes. not always easy… or accepted..
but if at the core.. you are not believing/living.. there’s never nothing going on..
how is it authentic trust..?
who decides # 13…?
perhaps how/why we’ve arrived where we are today… no?
we can’t say …authentic, conditional, trust, to any of us..
especially to those who have perhaps never been/swam in a trust relationship, and/or those who can see that elephant, and are just raising us one..
WikiLeaks (@wikileaks)
6/23/13 7:14 AM
WikiLeaks profile: Sarah Harrison wikileaks.org/Profile-Sarah-… #snowden
Miss Harrison has courageously assisted Mr. Snowden with his lawful departure from Hong Kong and is accompanying Mr. Snowden in his passage to safety.
first.. like copyright.. via James Bach.. once posted.. you are covered.
so then.. rather than alarm in exposing Sarah… exposure is a means to protect.. all eyes.. or at least some eyes.. know.
crazy irony? or my ignorance?
why then… right below..


Alternative Christmas Message 2013


fbi response (40 yrs after the burglary) here at 26 min, via Amy, bodes well for Snowden.. changes need to be made,… and his actions are prompting them..

fbi burglars


Ed at ted2014:

Here’s how we take back the Internet

Published on Mar 18, 2014

Appearing by telepresence robot, Edward Snowden speaks at TED2014 about surveillance and Internet freedom. The right to data privacy, he suggests, is not a partisan issue, but requires a fundamental rethink of the role of the internet in our lives — and the laws that protect it. “Your rights matter,” he say, “because you never know when you’re going to need them.” Chris Anderson interviews, with special guest Tim Berners-Lee.

There is still hope. Because the power of individuals have also increased by technology. I am living proof that an individual can go head to head against the most powerful adversaries and the most powerful intelligence agencies around the world, and win.

i did not do this to be safe.. i did this to be right.




may 2014:

snowden reunion


jun 5 2014 – at #pdf14 – jp tells ed he’s brave. ed thanks him but declines, saying that anyone sitting at his desk would have done the same. then jp replies – you’re brave because you’re not pretending to be asleep.

and this:

Snowden talks like an Aaron Sorkin West Wing script. Dude speaks in final draft. Amazing. #pdf14

like what glenn has said – he’s never met anyone as content/calm/well-beinged as ed..


aug 2014 – Glenn and Noam on no place to hide:

40 min ish – Noam quoting a harvard prof: power operates in the dark, when it’s exposed to light it disseminates



p. 2

p. 3

I don’t want the stage. I’m terrified of giving these talking heads some distraction, some excuse to jeopardize, smear, and delegitimize a very important movement.”

p. 4

What does that mean for a society, for a democracy, when the people that you elect on the basis of promises can basically suborn the will of the electorate?

p. 6

In addition to the possibility of accidentally starting a war, Snowden views MonsterMind as the ultimate threat to privacy because, in order for the system to work, the NSA first would have to secretly get access to virtually all private communications coming in from overseas to people in the US. “The argument is that the only way we can identify these malicious traffic flows and respond to them is if we’re analyzing all traffic flows,” he says. “And if we’re analyzing all traffic flows, that means we have to be intercepting all traffic flows. That means violating the Fourth Amendment, seizing private communications without a warrant, without probable cause or even a suspicion of wrongdoing. For everyone, all the time.” (A spokesperson for the NSA declined to comment on MonsterMind, the malware in Syria, or on the specifics of other aspects of this article.)


On March 13, 2013, sitting at his desk in the “tunnel” surrounded by computer screens, Snowden read a news story that convinced him that the time had come to act. It was an account of director of national intelligence James Clapper telling a Senate committee that the NSA does “not wittingly” collect information on millions of Americans. “I think I was reading it in the paper the next day, talking to coworkers, saying, can you believe this shit?”

Snowden and his colleagues had discussed the routine deception around the breadth of the NSA’s spying many times, so it wasn’t surprising to him when they had little reaction to Clapper’s testimony. “It was more of just acceptance,” he says, calling it “the banality of evil”—a reference to Hannah Arendt’s study of bureaucrats in Nazi Germany.

“It’s like the boiling frog,” Snowden tells me. “You get exposed to a little bit of evil, a little bit of rule-breaking, a little bit of dishonesty, a little bit of deceptiveness, a little bit of disservice to the public interest, and you can brush it off, you can come to justify it. But if you do that, it creates a slippery slope that just increases over time, and by the time you’ve been in 15 years, 20 years, 25 years, you’ve seen it all and it doesn’t shock you. And so you see it as normal. And that’s the problem, that’s what the Clapper event was all about. He saw deceiving the American people as what he does, as his job, as something completely ordinary. And he was right that he wouldn’t be punished for it, because he was revealed as having lied under oath and he didn’t even get a slap on the wrist for it. It says a lot about the system and a lot about our leaders.” Snowden decided it was time to hop out of the water before he too was boiled alive.

oct 2014 – snowden documentary – out oct 24 –


Citizenfour Official Trailer 1 (2014) – Edward Snowden Documentary HD


interview day after pre debut oct 10:


16 min – my only path through the legal system was to go before the ones i was exposing

32 min – journalists as the 4th estate – to get us on the right track


Laura Poitras‘ citizen four..


citizen four & snowden


feb 12 2015:

David Carr interviews Laura and Glenn and Ed:


then so sad, he collapses in studio shortly afterward.

i think there’s a through line (with my films): iraq, guantanamo, .. citizenfour brings hope. – Laura Poitras @citizenfour

people care about our ability to communicate/associate.. as long s we have that.. – Snowden @citizenfour

it’s incredibly satisfying to be a part of something bigger than yourself. a peace doing what you think you should do. Snowden @citizenfour

“Ultimately, it’s not a film about me. It’s a film about us.” Edward Snowden @TimesTalks: snpy.tv/1AgV2Uq

there’s a great freedom in not knowing what comes next – Snowden @citizenfour Laura Poitras @ggreenwald@TimesTalksnew.livestream.com/nytimes/events


feb 2015 – said (by jacob or glenn) to be one of the biggest reveals from Snowden:


As a general rule, phone companies do not manufacture SIM cards, nor program them with secret encryption keys. It is cheaper and more efficient for them to outsource this sensitive step in the SIM card production process. They purchase them in bulk with the keys pre-loaded by other corporations. Gemalto is the largest of these SIM “personalization” companies.

After a SIM card is manufactured, the encryption key, known as a “Ki,” is burned directly onto the chip. A copy of the key is also given to the cellular provider, allowing its network to recognize an individual’s phone. In order for the phone to be able to connect to the wireless carrier’s network, the phone — with the help of the SIM — authenticates itself using the Ki that has been programmed onto the SIM. The phone conducts a secret “handshake” that validates that the Ki on the SIM matches the Ki held by the mobile company. Once that happens, the communications between the phone and the network are encrypted. Even if GCHQ or the NSA were to intercept the phone signals as they are transmitted through the air, the intercepted data would be a garbled mess. Decrypting it can be challenging and time-consuming. Stealing the keys, on the other hand, is beautifully simple, from the intelligence agencies’ point of view, as the pipeline for producing and distributing SIM cards was never designed to thwart mass surveillance efforts.


“NSA has more mathematicians on its payroll than any other entity in the U.S.,” says the ACLU’s Soghoian. “But the NSA’s hackers are way busier than its mathematicians.”


In effect, GCHQ clandestinely cyberstalked Gemalto employees, scouring their emails in an effort to find people who may have had access to the company’s core networks and Ki-generating systems. The intelligence agency’s goal was to find information that would aid in breaching Gemalto’s systems, making it possible to steal large quantities of encryption keys.


A top-secret NSA document asserted that, as of 2009, the U.S. spy agency already had the capacity to process between 12 and 22 million keys per second for later use against surveillance targets. In the future, the agency predicted, it would be capable of processing more than 50 million per second.

– – – – –

The White House statement when asked about our encryption key heist story is just… wow http://t.co/D70wGXD8qT

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/568918135245447168


feb 2015 – Laura, Ed, Glenn ama on reddit:


Our rights are not granted by governments. They are inherent to our nature. But it’s entirely the opposite for governments: their privileges are precisely equal to only those which we suffer them to enjoy.

In such times, we’d do well to remember that at the end of the day, the law doesn’t defend us; we defend the law. And when it becomes contrary to our morals, we have both the right and the responsibility to rebalance it toward just ends.


How did you guys feel about about Neil Patrick Harris’ “for some treason” joke last night?

Wow the questions really blew up on this one. Let me start digging in…

To be honest, I laughed at NPH. I don’t think it was meant as a political statement, but even if it was, that’s not so bad. My perspective is if you’re not willing to be called a few names to help out your country, you don’t care enough.

“If this be treason, then let us make the most of it.”

Note: reddit is rate-limiting my replies to one per ten minutes (“you are doing that too much! try again in 9 minutes…”), guys. Sorry for the slow responses.


apr 2015 – how to get people to know/care

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Government Surveillance (HBO)

on 99 and 1 ness

simple enough


taped feb 2014 (?) – released april 2015 (?):


24 min – if i’m a traitor – who did i betray.. i gave all of my info to the american public.. to american journalists.. working on american issues.. if they see that as treason – i think people really need to consider – who do they think they’re working for.. the public is supposed to be their boss not their enemy


may 2015






Neil degrasse Tyson talking to Ed – sept 2015


1st bit starts at 4 min

2nd bit starts at 25 min

26 min – meta data – the context of a convo rather than content – more valuable than content – easier to run algorithm against it.. meta data is very small – when you have enough meta data – don’t need content..

29 min – encryption –

33 min – 3d space – multi-factor authentification… ie: sms code.. physical identifier, …

35 min – govt trying to speed up lapse of getting ideas of academics..

do this first: free art ists

3rd part – 40 min

cosmic microwave background

42 min – random numbers not truly random from machine.. so where to get them from.. paper saying to use the noise from cosmic background.. to seed randomness

46 min – (neil) – could use pulsars..

signal noise.. is it really noise..? or is it signal..? – something poetic to think the universe is talking to us..

(neil) – signals i’m uninterested in because i’m paying attention to signals i am interested in…

48 min – by listening to something.. we can suffer unintended consequences… the problem is mass surveillance.. we’ve got govt’s co-opted tele communications… despite fact they claim legal authority… it never made a single difference in terrorist.. but the result of rest .. taking away.. by creating haystack of human lives.. we’re losing the needles rather than finding them….

51 min – on profiling… makes criminals out of innocent people.. rather than profiling.. probably cause.. we don’t watch people who haven’t done anything wrong..

53 min – investigating everybody all the time.. just in case


Edward Snowden in conversation w/ Bart Gellman at UCI, well worth a watch

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/theodavid/status/696433154790289408

14 min – this is a global problem.. – using tech right.. global tech network.. every time it crosses border.. crosses a jurisdiction.. we have potential to lose freedom of press… freedom of expression

18 min – who is privacy for.. we’re asking privacy as a word .. too much..

privacy means liberty…  right to be left alone.. to do/think what you want.. up to you to develop/share your ideas…

if you don’t have privacy.. you’re at the mercy of the majority

privacy not appreciated until you deviate from majority

20 min – w/o privacy to debate/create/organize….. our country born out of privacy

22 min – what meta data is – activity records.. not every word you say.. but time/place/activity…

23 min – the diff now is that we’re subsidizing our own surveillance… w/our mobiles..

25 min – if have enough metadata… don’t need content… we kill people via meta data… – nsa

27 min – should we change our lives because govt abused our rights.. or should we change our govt..

open source – whisper – app – will make your messages sent securely

29 min – the law can’t defend people.. people defend (or cast down) the law

30 min – the servers… via companies… like snapchat… holds onto stuff…

42 min – slide showing nsa busting into google cloud et al

46 min – on uni.. saying you can’t talk about this.. on being beholden to credentialing and funding… – what kind of uni..

48 min – any advice.. don’t do what i did.. don’t wait till it’s too late.. come forward when it matters – if you do.. you can save a world’s worth of lives – daniel elsberg… – so i too wish i would have come forward sooner – ed  – because things become entrenched.. far more difficult to get govt to give up power than it is to prevent them from gaining it in the first place..

50 min – we don’t want to create a system where we have whistle blowers as deterrents to others.

51 min – what’s actually happening when you say.. well something could have gone wrong...  it’s their harms of bad policy vs freedom of press…

52 min – if every time someone wants to open their mouth .. they have to think about .. what could go wrong… suddenly we become a very closed/controlled society.. where people are individuals… but shaped by crowd.. that .. is not america..

1:00 – on claiming we’d end up with anarchy…  but thats the status quo today.. very common that we have this culture of impunity for leaks.. and extraordinary/exceptional punishment of leaks it doesn’t like… ie: petraeus.. didn’t go to jail.. fined less than he makes in a single speech

1:03 – laws have been changed since revelations in 2013 … solution is not to be more draconian… but to change policies… i live in exile now… i don’t have hs diploma.. making far more than 6 figures.. beautiful home in hawaii.. i don’t mind that because now i can sleep.. but to think we have to risk… some ethical manner… leaking is happening in uncontrolled way.. serving certain officials…

1:05 – media likes to talk about personalities instead of what’s going on in govt and how we’re going to live in future.. i think issues matter more than people… i want to caution you about the danger of believing in heros… i’m not a hero/traitor.. i’m just a citizen.. the only thing that distances us is our decisions….  first step: think about world you want to live in… and what you can do to create that world directly…

1:07 – govt has a good role… but some things can only be done by individuals.. the battle of policy is the battle of culture.. if we change minds we change laws

1:17 – q: how do you want the american people to remember you   a: i don’t.

i as an individual.. do not matter that much.. if you want to look to someone.. look to the journalists..


sept 2015 (after convo w/neil..?)

link twitter


mar 30 2016 – conversation on privacy (notes/link here) between Glenn, Ed and Noam


5 ways to protect self online – tor – as also an ad blocker:



Pentagon Whistleblower’s Disclosures Put a Lie to Obama, Clinton Claims About Snowden


did what elsberg did 40 yrs ago w pentagon papers

on hrc saying – snowden would have gotten good protection..  ask john crane how that works..

obama said he signed executive order to protect whistleblowers… again.. ask john crane.. (he answers at 36 min) – 1/4 of all employees fear reprisal… 1/3 of all reprisal investigators fear reprisal.. that’s a dynamic that no one in the white house would’ve understood

39 min – on hilary’s words… on ed coming back to face legal defense…. john crane: when you are concerned about whether or not should be whistleblower.. have to wish system works.. ie: ig: 482 allegations… accepts 10.. substantiated 1… which is 0.2 percent… army: 372 allegs… investigate all.. 102 substantiated… 27% rate..

p 2


52 min – principled consent demands whistleblower ness

56 min – we need to support/lift up whistleblowers – ed


jun 2016 – interview on surveillance on vice


“State of Surveillance” w/ Edward Snowden youtube.com/watch?v=ucRWyG… #Snowden #Surveillance @tragedyandhope

instead of specific surveillance.. surveillance of all

instead of people following you.. we use the tech you paid for to follow you

6 min – meta data ness

every phone has imsi for sims card… imsi catchers.. so many

tech used by police all over world.. tons since 2008

shenanigans.. project to mount imsi catcher on airplanes.. it was being tested in yemen… w/in 6 months… wall street reported same tech used in u.s… frequently monitoring protestors.. ie: blm

11 min – not used for terrorism but to keep regimes in power

12 min – like reading someone’s mind..

13 min – can it be journalism.. if (because of spyware).. not able to protect source.. tech has made convenience for communication.. but also for surveillance

so.. need for gershenfeld something else law

15 min – you may have bought phone.. but anyone who hacks it.. essentially owns it

things to do.. ie: take out mics and replace

perhaps most terrifying.. if your phone had been hacked you’d never know

17 min – wyden – on cia and brennan..  at heart secret law.. ok to collect meta data

21 min – when you’re watching everyone.. you have the info needed.. but when you’re collecting everything.. you understand nothing.. ie: going on since 2001 – and never stopped a single terrorist

23 min – not about a president.. but about presidency

24 min – are we going to change.. where everything is indexed/stored.. or will we recognize danger of that and embrace the fact that people should have space to make mistakes w/o judgment.. to have the unconsidered thought/convo w friend

25 min – this is the question our political structure is not yet comfortable confronting.. but it’s coming.. we’re going to have to confront..


Ed and Jaron

Edward Snowden and Jaron Lanier met @thisisstory last night–virtually–to talk about privacy in the digital age.https://t.co/IpbScTugHZ

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/itsthechampagne/status/753299890969739268

“This is the moral hazard of good intentions,” Snowden continued, explaining this is what happens when people get caught up in a system of thinking and stop thinking for themselves and listening to their consciences.


Jaron: we have a remarkably well-meaning class of new overlords if you’d like—perhaps one of the nicest and best educated set of overlords in all of history. Yet that doesn’t matter. If you have a bizarre imbalance of power that centralizes power too much, whether it’s created by technology or any other source, it’s inherently going to create moral imbalances as well.”


Ed: “I am afraid, but I was also afraid in the United States. It seems that was a quite a rational fear because the reality is that power is dangerous, and speaking truth to power is possibly the single most dangerous act that any person can engage in, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing. That doesn’t mean that we should turn away from the risk,”



Since Friday, @ACLU has given away 80,000 pocket copies of the Constitution. Got yours? shop.aclu.org/product/ACLU-P…

really..? oy.

sounds like stuco passing out roberts rule of order.. that no one reads/gets.. but assumed we’re working right..

let’s not pass out old laws.. let’s do what we’re capable of today.. rev of everyday life..

no constitution.. rather.. hosting life b


forbidden research



Wow. Now, that’s a story. For real. news.nationalpost.com/features/how-e…

“Nobody would dream that a man of such high profile would be placed among the most reviled people in Hong Kong,” recalled Tibbo, a Canadian-born and educated barrister who has practiced law for 15 years. “We put him in a place where no one would look.”


“My plan was just to return this information to the public, not to take care of myself, which I considered impossible. This can be seen in my lack of an after-action plan.”


According to government statistics, Hong Kong has only accepted 52 refugees out of tens of thousands since 1992, an acceptance rate of about 0.05 per cent. Currently, there are 12,000 asylum seekers registered with the government, but there are several thousand more unregistered.

“The Hong Kong government hates poor people — there are 1.5 million of its own and the refugees, who are at the bottom of the pile,” said Cosmo Beatson


Glenn (nov 2016) on vindicating Ed:



nov 2016 – snowden on trump election


9 min – i try not to look at this as a single president/election/govt…

11 min – when do you start creating exceptions – to .. individual has right to privacy… doesn’t mean same thing in every country..

12 min – not .. how do we defend against trump.. but how do we defend everyone/everywhere..

this fabric of communications was intended to empower.. and increasingly used to disempower

13 min – what if we start changing dynamic mech.. so that protected by default..

16 min – we stopped thinking about wrong/right.. and instead focused strictly on can/cannot.. these are civic dangers .. we forget when we focus on single candidate..

18 min – too much faith/fear in elected officials.. will never be work of politicians.. only work of the people..

19 min – we should not fear a trump.. rather.. we should build it ourselves..

24 min – signal (moxie) weren’t collecting tons of data on customers.. weren’t spying.. so .. didn’t have to hand much over to govt

26 min – on diff govt’s collecting porn.. bedroom images every 5 min.. sources of journalists.. all justified on basis of counter terrorism.. ie: after lawyers.. because negotiating over price of shrimp w indonesia

27 min – who board was comprised of… and.. never made a concrete diff in any terrorist investigation.. about power.. money.. and that’s what espionage has always been about…

29 min – q: what type of info do we need to protect us from bombing.. a: well – boston marathon was during height of surveillance and .. we had even been forwarned.. and even in brussels.. belgium had been warned.. why did mass surveillance fail… because when you collect everything.. you understand nothing…. need to rather.. watch just specific individuals that have been tipped off

32 min – what we don’t like.. is the mass… ness.. of the surveillance

36 min – we haven’t seen solution to this yet.. techs we expected to be benefit are being subverted.. we have to find a way today to change that direction and make it serve humanity.. look at simple methods.. we’ve never really looked at before..

host-life-bits ness as the day..simple enough & gershenfeld sel

41 min – things you can do to protect yourself.. it’s up to you.. you have to decide give and take of privacy vs protection

42 min – you as an individual should not have to make these decisions.. so you have to be political about it.. privacy isn’t about something to hide.. it’s about something to protect.. the right to self/free-mind, the foundation of all other rights.. if you can’t try out in safe space with friends w/o judgement..

44 min – can’t figure out for self what you believe in and who you want to become unless that protected space.. privacy is not intended for the majority.. politicians/majority.. don’t need privacy.. but minorities… people whoa re a little bit diff.. don’t fit in.. even in a small way .. if you disagree w/majority…. you are the one that privacy is for..

45 min – it’s an anti social argument.. when say.. i’ll adapt to what rest of world wants.. you’re saying.. you don’t want freedom..

redefine decision making…. disengage from consensus.. because public consensus always oppresses someone..

snowden private in public law

46 min – many people do care.. just that we’ve been convinced there’s nothing we can do about it..

we should never be asked as a society to pick between one or the other.. we need to build institutions that don’t think about candidates.. instead give us a world we design..realize.. step by step..

binary ness

48 min – what can we do more..

you can’t be expected to study every issue on earth.. you can care.. talk to people..and then make sure experts have the platform..

50 min – no amount of violence/force will ever solve a math problem..

trial: able to jury why you did what you did.. and the jury decides.. espionage act.. prevents me from doing that.. prevents journalists from doing that..

54 min – this is a dark moment.. but it’s not the end of history.. america has a greater commitment to justice than to the law

56 min – if i were concerned about my safety.. i would never made it out of hawaii.. i’m comfortable w/the choices i’ve made.. i think i did the right thing..

as long as we do our best to live in accordance with our values.. we don’t have to worry about tomorrow..

has to be all of us.. then.. eudaimoniative surplus

57 min – i feel more connected.. and feel i have more ability to change the world for better today.. then when i was working secretly for nsa.. there was a long time there were i had no questions..  there’s a lot of work i did that i still value.. but today.. for me as an individual.. i can give a voice to the side of the nsa that is forbidden from speaking.. this is a role that has been missing for far too long..


jack dorsey and ed on ama


4 min – constitution as allegiance to ideas.. rather than certain people.. we got off track … in secret… after 9 11

6 min – he lied.. that was a felony..me and my colleagues were right there.. what do you do with that..

7 min –  the number secrets i made public is zero.. i provided evidence.. to journalists.. and these institutions were supposed to take my political bias out.

10 min – using surveillance not to save people.. but to find out sources of stories that they didn’t like

11 min – w/o our knowledge/consent.. our rights/constitution had been changed..

12 min – in a democracy.. basic fundamental idea… power derived from people… govt power.. granted by us to rep us… only works if people know what’s going on.. if we’re voting but don’t know what govts doing.. not a democracy

22 min – the answer to bad speech isn’t censored speech.. but more speech.. critical thinking

23 min – what if you had your own voice… this is the beauty of the internet.. everybody can be heard..

not quite.. begs we hosting-life-bits via self-talk as data

40 min – q: most worried about with tech  a: the idea of a quantified world..

42 min – creating records of your activity.. is creating vulnerability..

unless we 1\ go gershenfeld 2\ use tech to host-life-bits

46 min – how do we return control to our id’s…

48 min – i read from a book that never ends.. we are the writers together..

yes.. now let’s create mech to let that convo io dance..

52 min – w/flick of switch.. if we create one tech leap.. that solves one of these problems… ie: how to have private protected communications… by new means.. solutions we’ve never seen before..

ps in the open.. for (blank)’s sake



Only few more minutes! 6pm MET. @Snowden, @jeremyscahill, @J_Todenhoefer, @profwolff, @PaulJay_TRNN LIVE! actvism.org/en/news/live-s… #freedom

on mlk.. hoover’s fbi.. ‘these things continue’ – @Snowden

‘national security isn’t what it sounds like.. it means stability of the parties in power’ – @Snowden

‘if hadn’t been for previous whistleblowers showing that the system doesn’t work.. i wouldn’t be here now’ (para) – @Snowden

‘focus on trump is a mistake..faith in elected leaders is our problem. solution is the people’- @Snowden

a nother way hlb..hosting-life-bits

‘we’ve moved to a belief that legality is the same as morality’ – @Snowden

‘if we’re going to protect anyone.. we have to protect everyone..’ – @Snowden

gershenfeld sel

‘liberty..is to act w/o permission..to live in an instant from your own head..rather than structures’ – @Snowden

hlb + sel

a nother way

‘in exile..but i speak to people everyday via tech. for the longest time govt loved exiles because they could stop the convo’ – @Snowden

‘i’m thinking about what i can do next..think about the opportunities you have’ – @Snowden

a nother way


Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) tweeted at 7:10 AM – 18 Jan 2017 :

Russia extends Edward Snowden’s residence permit https://t.co/B8NRFRadFT (http://twitter.com/WSJ/status/821721343204921348?s=17)

Gabriella Coleman (@BiellaColeman) tweeted at 7:30 AM – 18 Jan 2017 :

What a relief… Another piece of good news. https://t.co/WLGmfPy8pB (http://twitter.com/BiellaColeman/status/821726404182241280?s=17)


Edward Snowden (@Snowden) tweeted at 2:57 PM – 29 Jan 2017 :

No matter your politics, this is a grave concern. A government which refuses to respect the orders of its own courts is called a regime. https://t.co/lRubPy47N9 (http://twitter.com/Snowden/status/825825196678459399?s=17)

grave concern… that we re living by any orders

human\e constitution ness


Ed and Cory on walkaway

Watch Edward @Snowden and Cory @doctorow imagine our hopeful, dystopian future https://t.co/87Pgq3GTW3

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/FreedomofPress/status/861627302962110464


21 min – one reading of walkaway.. an attempt to figure out how to respond to a world where a system that’s gone to far to be reformed thru traditional means – Ed

a nother way

27 min – a strong theme of econ – but opp of Ayn Rand – that only way is to exchange.. Ed

29 min – market capitalism.. produces thru competition.. enormous gains in productivity.. that are to the great benefit of the long human project.. how to elevate every peasant to live like a lord


33 min – walkaway – sci trick of cleaving tech system from econ/social- what would it be like if we had the productivity of the assembly line and the working style of the craftsman.. engineer beyond boundary of firm and into world – Cory

eagle and condor..

44 min – to bank something that’s abundant when it’s abundant and then get it to somewhere scarce when it’s scarce.. – Cory

45 min – country based on searching for less order and more freedom – Ed

ed out

58 min – on it being hard to argue with people who are closest to you.. enormous sorrow.. these people i respect so dearly so angry – Cory

59 min – ed in

1:01 – how do you change people’s minds – Paul   arguing – good will and willingness to spend the time – Cory

1:03 – diff between relationship never having a fight and one where all diff come to mutual understanding – Cory

1:04 – most frustrating thing in argument.. that other not only disagrees w you but also with something you’re not saying – Cory

1:05 – my possession of the (piece of art) is you not having it – hard to imagine how we could overcome – Cory

having and being ness – a nother way via 2 convos.. as the day [aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]

this is the invisible magic

the river why – gus connection law

1:12 – on – not changing people’s minds.. but changing what they do about it – Cory

1:14 – can’t outrun it anywhere – Cory

1:20 – actually ed back.. cut off.. when saying.. being born from treason.. and.. this is the fundamental liberty..

what liberty really means.. to act w/o permission.. freedom from permission.. – Ed

1:23 – we’ve lost those undiscovered spaces.. and the true frontier space .. people discovered.. not undiscovered.. but unregulated.. ie: when do things that jeopardize riches people in society.. how to make this a post scarcity not in terms of resources but in terms of days to live – Ed

1:24 – when we have no unexplored spaces today.. is our frontier spirit more about invention/ideas that is about the physical location where we occupy.. what would you say is the frontier today.. – Ed

1:25 – hard to talk about frontiers w/o talking about power relationships they always embody – Cory

1:26 – i don’t know if i want to recapture that frontier spirit .. always involves erasure.. i think if there’s a place people think not everything has to be mandatory or prohibited today.. it is around the periphery of tech.. we still have this idea of federation of networks.. don’t need to agree on everything in order to cross connect.. across boundaries.. can do radically diff things – Cory

io dance ness

federalist view – very utopian.. can disagree about almost everything.. but have two separate parallel experiments.. – Cory..

1:28 – the immortalities is a mcguffin – able to say whatever you want – Cory

1:29 – the mcguffin of immortality.. the positional good – when you have something that others don’t.. when that becomes widespread.. some people interpret that abundance as a bug and not a feature – Cory

1:32 – nature of rights.. don’t need to justify them.. they are for the most vulnerable among us.. to property/opinion/speech.. not necessary if you are ie: mark zuckerberg.. a general.. if you have access to resources/power… but for people who don’t have much.. are a little diff.. have radical ideas.. these are the people for whom rights matter most w/least capability to defend them.. these are the people who make our society good.. make the world move forward.. status quo don’t drive progress.. – Ed

1:34 – privacy isn’t about something to hide.. but to protect.. space for self/ideas.. w/o haunting.. if happen to be bad.. try them in a space.. – Ed

spaces of permissionnothing to prove.

1:35 – arguing for privacy because nothing to hide.. like arguing for freedom of speech because have nothing to say – Ed

1:36 – this system should be improved upon in a radical way w/o asking permission.. – Ed

what is the route for reform

graeber model law

1:37 – ability to form groups and work together  – Cory

find people via 2 convos a day..

before.. if wanted to work together.. had to what for others to catch up et al..

what internet has done is given us this fluid improvisational style – Cory

1:38 – ability to have the form of coming together for a good bake sale but to work on a wikipedia..the problem of forming groups has always been esp hard for opposition groups.. because all..

opposition groups pay a very high institutional cost – have to not only find people like them.. but keep the existence of the group something like a secret

if not from govt itself.. maybe from people they don’t want to disclose their political affiliations or heterodox views to.. ie: gay liberation.. needed to be in the closet and then find other people in the closet.. but then figure out a way to work together to argue that you should all be able to come out of the closet without necessarily coming out of the closet.. that was a really hard project – Cory

1:39 – the ability for us to find people like us.. very cheaply.. online.. esp heterodox views.. *is playing out around us..  in ways that run as an absolute counter to the increased oppressive surveillance/control/hierarchy that we’re seeing at the state level.. for better or for worse.. – Cory

*let’s focus on that .. let’s free 7bn.. up for that.. we can.. we have the means.. a nother way

1:40 – fearful for future.. when two rub up against each other.. – Cory

is it that.. or is it that we have that freedom.. but after hours.. so it’s not us accessing the freedom.. ie: like us sitting on couch because we’re tired.. so more might use it for not human nature stuff..

i’m just saying.. the partial ness is what’s killing us.. and keeping us from us.. and this invisible magic.. as you say

1:59 – we haven’t paid attention to how people feel when they try these other things.. ways that make people happy and not just busy – Cory

i’m for building a world that beggars our imagination – Cory


Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) tweeted at 6:51 PM – 11 Feb 2018 :

Remember how all those government officials said @Snowden should’ve just complained to his bosses? An internal review of 190 whistleblower cases found that intelligence bureaucrats only once ruled in favor of the whistleblower. Only once! In 190 cases! https://t.co/hh9wQq4Pke (http://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/962866705771966464?s=17)


6/ The only issue journalists should be asking about Snowden is why whistleblowers – Chelsea Manning, Reality Winner or him – are forced to flee the country or face years in prison for the “crime” of exposing what the public should know. What journalists want sources imprisoned?
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1018572099202506753


ed on chelsea and julian:

Edward Snowden statement on Julian Assange, read by @AngelaRichter_ at today’s @DiEM_25 rally in Berlin: “It is not just a man who stands in jeopardy, but the future of the free press.” https://t.co/KbzqrIBRYD

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/couragefound/status/1123969726621847552