p2p on spirituality

via Michel and p2p:

Introduction to the P2P Foundation Wiki Material about Spirituality – P2P Foundation https://t.co/idWd0hjeEy
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/mbauwens/status/1274859687473750016

For an intro, read Michel Bauwens on the Great Cosmic Mash-Up, which focuses on P2P and common projects and their role in the construction of our identity:

The “Great Cosmic Mash-up” as an answer to postmodernist fragmentation

mash-ups are really a constructive answer to the postmodernist issue of the fragmentation of our selves.

ai humanity needs: augmenting interconnectedness

the fragmentation of postmodernity is a given for us now, but we are no longer lamenting, we are discovering the *technologies (infrastructural, collaborative-software-ish, political, but above all the mental and epistemological) that allow us to use this **fragmentation to create the ***Great Cosmic Mash-Up..t That is the historical task of the emerging Peer to Peer Era.

*tech as it could be ie: 2 convers as infra

**idio-jargon/self-talk as data

***ie: cure ios city

back to spirituality page:

“peer production and the emerging economy of the Commons may (and already do) provide the material conditions of an alternative future spirituality and self. An identity based on networks of cooperation rather than competition, and common property and sharing rather than privatization and commodification, has no need to generate a collective will that puts human systems in balance with eco-systems because that will is already built-in to the foundation of the consciousness.. t and practices of peer production as a collective, commons project.

huge to focus on what’s already in us.. only way for a leap to happen.. no need for prep/training et al

There is no sense of the individual part standing separate from the collective whole or in a dominant relation to others, so there is no gap to mend and heal,.. t there is only an in-built spiritual consciousness and self practice of ‘We’ and ‘I’ in nature and society as a unified (yet diverse) integral practice.” – Joe Corbett

The liberation of the self involves, above all, a social process.In a society that has shriveled the self into a commodity — into an object manufactured for exchange — there can be no fulfilled self. There can only be the beginnings of selfhood, the emergence of a self that seeks fulfillment — a self that is largely defined by the obstacles it must overcome to achieve realization.– Murray Bookchin

When individuals develop in harmony with their most genuine vital potentials, human relationships characterized by mutual exchange and enrichment would naturally emerge because people would not need to project their own needs and lacks onto others. – Jorge Ferrer on Dismantling Rankism and the Comparing Mind

that’s still rankism and the comparing mind.. we need to let go of any form of measuring/accounting.. that includes thinking of a mutual exchange as a natural emergence..

More specifically, the turning off of the comparing mind would dismantle the prevalent hierarchical mode of social interaction.. t paradoxically so extended in spiritual circles in which people automatically look upon others as being either superior or inferior, as a whole or in some privileged respect.

need a means first – to undo our hierarchical listening ie: 2 convers as infra

mona lisa compare law.. graeber values law.. et al

This model which ultimately leads to inauthentic and unfulfilling relationships, not to mention hubris and spiritual narcissism would naturally pave the way for an I-Thou mode of encounter in which people would experience others as equals in the sense of their being both superior and inferior to themselves in varying skills and areas of endeavor (intellectually, emotionally, artistically, mechanically, interpersonally, and so forth), but with none of those skills being absolutely higher or better than others. It is important to experience human equality from this perspective to avoid trivializing our encounter with others as being merely equal.

one ness

It also would bring a renewed sense of significance and excitement to our interactions because we would be genuinely open to the fact that not only can everybody learn something important from us, but we can learn from them as well. In sum, an integral development of the person would lead to a horizontalization of love.? We would see others not as rivals or competitors but as unique embodiments of the Mystery, in both its immanent and transcendent dimension, who could offer us something that no one else could offer and to whom we could give something that no one else could give.” – Jorge Ferrer

right track.. some of the right words.. but i think if we let go enough.. we’d go much deeper than that.. ie: wouldn’t even be thinking about what we learn.. offerings.. et al

Mark Pesce on Global Interconnection

Dunbar’s Number has been both amplified and extended beyond any human capacity ever imagined. We moved from hundreds to billions in a single gesture, a quantum leap which in retrospect will appear nearly instantaneous. We enjoy the curious privilege of being part of this transition, the generations experiencing life before, during and after the billion seconds which encompass the entire scope of this transition. A billion seconds is sufficient to change everything.

humanity needs a leap.. to get back/to simultaneous spontaneity ..  simultaneous fittingness.. everyone in sync..

Meta-theory as humanity’s vocabulary of self-transformation

[With] self-consciousness comes the possibility of transforming ourselves by adopting new vocabularies, redescribing, and so reconstructing our selves and discursive institutions.. t

idio-jargon ness

While all of us are in some sense consumers of such new vocabularies, it is the special calling of some to produce them..t

yeah.. i don’t think so.. has to be all of us.. ongoingly.. or it won’t work

ie: you can’t hear me, i can’t hear me

across the board [to get to the roots of healing.. it has to be all of us]

And among those producers some take the construction of unique, potentially transformative vocabularies as the project by commitment to which they understand and define themselves. Among that group, some seek to produce those new vocabularies precisely by trying to understated the phenomena of sapience, normativity, conceptuality, reason, freedom, expression, self-consciousness, self-constitution, and historical transformation by subversive, empowering vocabularies. Those are the philosophers. They are charged neither with simply understanding human nature (human history), nor with simply changing it, but with changing it by understanding it. —Robert B. Brandom (2009, p. 150)

yeah.. i think rather than some of us ness.. to understand and define.. we need to make it open to all of us .. every day.. otherwise we keep spinning our wheels w enclosures

literacy and numeracy both elements of colonialism/control/enclosure.. we need to calculate differently and stop measuring things

Andreas Weber on Animism as Reciprocity

“Animism, the cosmology of indigenous peoples, is the most radical form to think and to enact reciprocity among human and non-human persons. To understand the full scope of this radicality, we need to rediscover what animism is. It has suffered a long time of misrepresentation within the western cognitive empire. The idea that naïve “native” humans live in a Hobbesian natural state adulating spirits and demons in trees, rivers, and mountains is a false myth. This misrepresentation stems from projecting the western cognitive mindset on what the so-called “primitive people” are doing, when they, for instance, ritually give thanks to a tree-being. It comes from not getting the radical reciprocity animism is engaged in.”

andreas on animism

yeah.. i see reciprocity ness as part of the problem (otherwise indigenous would have transformed us by now).. it’s another red flag.. rather than a full scope of radicality..

let go