michel on total ness
michel bauwens on total ness
via tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/2120378913763582194?a=0zHsrv8d4uo723PsMe4&s=20]:
I think this is too far off to the other end, dear @TiberiusB. *As long as very different people need to live with each other on a same territory (certainly if that territory becomes potentially planetary for more and more aspects, in cosmo-local fashion), **there are areas of common concern that need to be navigated, and given the ***dubious nature of humanity, ****this will always likely to be some mix of free coordination and coercion, however minimal. ****Once there is a decision to drive left, that measure needs to be protected. ******There is not a situation without zero control, in which you just wait for earthquakes and plagues to take their toll, without preparation and reaction. See it as an evolution from participatory unity with minimal differentiation, at our dawn following by disunity with differentiation, in the era of competing civilizational spheres, and a return to unity <with> differentiation in an era of cosmo-local planetarity. *******There is no total abolition of state and market. Society Protocol stands for maximalization voluntary coordination at a higher scale of coordination capacity, trans-locally. ********It is not the end-all solution for everything, but could be a vital tool for translocal communities seeking such coordination.
[note: links to ongoing convo with tiberius on tiberius and ashton overlap ness.. which i’m not so much interested in.. since to me ness.. neither get to the root of problem.. (aka: has to be all).. which is also why this focus from michel on total ness had me adding this page]
*rather.. as long as whales in sea world.. will always be perpetuating myth of tragedy and lord.. and so perpetuating some form of us & them and/or some form of m\a\p to ‘control’ those conditions
**this is huge.. as a yes to areas need navigated.. but 1\ only because in sea world.. ever since that day we’ve been missing pieces.. (ie: imagine a turtle needing ‘navigation’ as a ‘shell restored’) and 2\ legit areas that now need ‘navigated’ .. i’d say detoxed.. are:
two missing pieces..
that every heart/soul craves..
[note.. huge note: #2 is why it has to be all.. otherwise not getting to legit/deep ‘concerns’ and so not resonating to all so won’t ever get all.. because of that whac-a-mole-ing ness of us & them ness.. ie: this is why tiberius, ashton, michel are even having this convo.. because none of their 3 heads/thinkings/wordings are resonating with all three.. have to have problem deep enough if want legit freedom (with only seeming chaos) .. at one point tiberius even uses ‘if ‘soc proto’ is left to own devices…’ as showing it would lead to myth of tragedy and lord.. the deeper problem/issue is that no one is or has been legit left to own devices ness .. ever since that day.. always been the pre determined ‘devices ness’ of sea world.. so all has to include all people.. but all people have to be legit free]
we need a problem deep enough to resonate w/8b today.. via a mechanism simple enough to be accessible/usable to 8b today.. in an ecosystem open enough to set/keep 8b legit free
ie: org around a problem deep enough (aka: org around legit needs) to resonate w/8b today.. via a mechanism simple enough (aka: tech as it could be) to be accessible/usable to 8b today.. and an ecosystem open enough (aka: sans any form of m\a\p) to set/keep 8b legit free
****even if least/tiniest minimal we can imagine.. then too much.. and will just keep perpetuating myth of tragedy and lord
*****if still ‘decision’ ing.. rather than itch-in-the-soul ing.. still cancerous distraction
how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us..
******in sea world . ever since that day
*******again.. to me ness.. if not ‘total’ ness.. then perpetuating same song
findings (aka: the things i can’t unsee) from on the ground ness deep dive and why we need tech w/o judgment
ie: the dance won’t dance unless/until it’s 1\ all of us 2\ legit free
nothing to date (ever since that day) has gotten to that root of problem
legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has
********hence my to me ness
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