michel on alt forms of coord
michel bauwens on alt forms of coordination ness – to michel on mutual coord econ
via tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1951920036505137288]:
Today, we are at the dawn of the age of mutual coordination, which in my view, will be a convergence between bioregional relocalized and regenerative (i.e. healing) mode of production and coordination, with the new capacities of coordinating labor and capital exemplified by Web3. *This ‘Cosmo-Local’ Coordination Paradigm is competing with five other alternative forms:..t The five pre-crypto approaches were: the status quo of the market order a return to central planning modalities bottom-up ‘anarchy’ negotiated coordination mechanisms for democratic planning algorithmic mediation. More at https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Mutual_Coordination
*to me.. nothing to date is a legit alt.. all same song.. ie: everything so far based on some form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
mufleh humanity law: we have seen advances in every aspect of our lives except our humanity– Luma Mufleh
notes/quotes from p2p foundation wiki link:
Key hypothesis: What market pricing is to capitalism and planning is to state-based production, mutual coordination (i.e. Stigmergy) is to commons-based peer production!
hello stigmergy.. marsh stigmergy law.. et al
Please check out our report P2P Accounting for Planetary Survival, for the vision of the P2P Foundation, as well as the Cosmo-Local Reader for practical examples.
see notes from planetary survival and michel on cosmo localism
The five pre-crypto approaches were:
- the status quo of the market order
- a return to central planning modalities
- bottom-up ‘anarchy’
- negotiated coordination mechanisms for democratic planning
- algorithmic mediation.
These pages are dedicated to a 6th proposition, i.e. mutual coordination in open ecosystems, assisted by regenerative market mechanisms, and limited by thermo-dynamic based ‘context-based sustainability‘.
again.. to me.. if any form of m\a\p (ie: market mechs ness et al).. not legit alt/open/regen/sustainable.. et al
We are asking you to imagine the following emerging reality:
- a first layer of production and distribution involves direct mutual coordination, through open and shared supply chains, with integrate accounting and metrics to recognize both positive and negative social and ecological externalities
again with the measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do ness
- a second layer involves generative market transactions involving the various players in entredonneurial (generative entrepreneurs working together) coalitions that share common infrastructures and circular economies
ellen macarthur foundation – circular economy .. et al.. not deep enough to get to the root of problem
- a third ‘planning’ layer that involves biophysical accountability, using tools like Kate Raworth’s Doughnut, or the Global Tresholds and Allocations developed by initiatives such as Reporting 3.0
The aim is to achieve a Resource Balanced Economy, characterized by Perma-Circularity. See the report by Simon Michaux about the nature of this transition. For details, see Simon Michaux on the Transition Towards a Resource Balanced Economy. The Holonic Earth Operating System is a well thought out example of how such an economy could be scaled via pro-social protocols.
simon michaux et al.. simon on unsustainability.. et al.. holonics ness
We suggest the following key historical interpretation:
- More or less 5,000 years ago, humanity underwent a first bifurcation in information processing for resource allocation, shifting from the gift and commons mechanics of the tribal organizations, to the markets and state allocation systems of craft-agrarian civilizations; the markets became dominant after the industrial revolution
- with the advent of computerized cybernetic technology, humanity stands at a potential second big bifurcation, moving from exclusively market and state allocation mechanisms, to introducing stigmergic mutual coordination through signalling in open ecosystems,..t with the post-world-war context of:
will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us..
ie: imagine if we listen to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)
the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness
[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance.. for (blank)’s sake..
ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition
– the failure by the Soviet planning systems to adapt to cybernetic planning
– the failure of the first attempt at democratic cybernetic planning by Chile’s Allende government with Cybersin and Stafford Beer
– the post-1993 democratizing of digital networking through the internet and the development of open source coordination systems, followed by the development of the crypto economic open ecosystems
- the second bifurcation is *necessary to manage human needs within planetary boundaries and acceptable social contracts between the managerial and productive classes. We believe this will happen (in part) through the development of open crypto-economic infrastructures for mutual coordination, stronger mutualization of provisioning systems at the local level, the cosmo-local organization of production (interaction between relocalized supply and global knowledge cooperation), and Magisteria of the Commons, a new type of institution that can **protect the reproduction of human and non-human life over the long term, by a more judicious use of scarce resources.
*again with mufleh humanity law et al..
**need 1st/most: means (nonjudgmental expo labeling) to undo hierarchical listening as global detox so we can org around legit needs.. otherwise will never get to point of garden-enough ness.. graeber stop at enough law et al
listed in rest of wiki: regen network et al
Ian Wright:
“To solve the coordination problem we need to operate the economy at the correct activity levels such that final demand is satisfied without over or under production..t **A fully coordinated economy produces the population’s consumption bundle without wasteful accumulation, or unsustainable depletion, of stocks. Of course, final demand continually changes, and so do the techniques of production. ***So a complete solution of the coordination problem requires discovering, and re-discovering, the correct activity levels, and ensuring that the economy conforms to those levels.”
rather.. ‘to solve coord problem’ we need to try the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness
[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance.. for (blank)’s sake..
ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition
**rather.. ‘a fully coordinated econ’ will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
bachelard oikos law et al
***rather.. requires us to let go enough.. to see something legit diff
(https://ianwrightsite.wordpress.com/2017/03/12/a-theoretical-solution-to-the-coordination-problem/
Why Neoliberalism Overtook the Soviet Model
“*The great experiment of communism failed in the twentieth century because it had a feeble mathematical imagination..t It thought in terms of the geometry of empire with its single center of command and control, and its periphery of resources. With this sort of world-view, communism was archaic and Pharaonic, and it was no wonder that it got taken over by genocidal tyrants like Stalin and Mao. Capitalism outlasted communism because its mathematical imagination was one of complexity and self-organization from noise. … Capitalists who think of physical objects in markets, and hypercapitalists who think of algorithmic trading and accelerations of time and manipulations of price and currency differences do not understand life. **Capitalism as well as hypercapitalism will both fail in this century because a market is not a good model for a planetary ecology.“
*rather.. because it was still measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
**again with mufleh humanity law.. need to try/see something legit diff..
– William Irwin Thompson – Metapolitics of the Noosphere
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