graeber stop at enough law


if there wasn’t a natural urge in us to just stop at a certain point.. they wouldn’t have to do thatdavid graeber


on ads telling us that we need more stuff.. if you think about it..

if there wasn’t a natural urge in us to just stop at a certain point.. they wouldn’t have to do that..

if we just naturally wanted more and more they wouldn’t have to make us feel nervous about ourselves to make us need to consume more et al

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from nika & david wealth p3:

1 min – my old prof marshal sahlins wrote an essay called the original affluential society.. where he developed this idea.. and he said.. the problem w our econ is it’s really religion/theology.. because if you look at h/g society.. yes.. they are rich.. because wealth/affluence is a relationship between what you want/needs/desires.. and the material means to realize that.. if want ie: fried fish.. relax.. adequate clothing.. well h/g’s have that in abundance.. they can get that working 2 hrs a day.. the rest of the time they can enjoy themselves.. so rest of time they can live like rich people.. in their own terms..

2 min – it’s only us who have created societies where there’s things like poverty.. because we created needs that by defn everybody can’t have

huge huge huge

we need to org around legit needs

and the question is .. how that happened.. if you think about it.. a lot of what christianity teaches us is that we have infinite desires.. which probably isn’t true.. right.. but that’s via augustine et al.. ‘this is how we were punished for original sin.. we rebelled against god and therefore our own desires rebel against our own common sense and we just want more and more and more..

garden-enough ness

3 min – so see same thing in all the christian writers.. but even in people like hobbes.. when they start (?ing) sociology.. they always says ‘well people have infinite desire for pleasure’.. why ?.. ‘because they’re miserable.. life is horrible/pain.. so pleasure is our way of forgetting about pain *(laughing but).. we want more and more pleasure.. but in order to guarantee our access to pleasure.. we need property.. so we want wealth and in order to want as much as that as possible.. and only so much stuff.. so we’re always competing over that.. and then in order to gain our access to property of course we want power.. et al.. so that’s why **everybody left to their own devices would just be killing each other and we need a govt to keep everybody in line

*on maté addiction law and cope\ing ness.. and hari rat park law

**undisturbed ecosystem


4 min – but the interesting thing is that for most of human history even though that’s the way philosophers said people acted.. people still didn’t act that way ie: middle ages people had a pretty clear idea what they wanted and when they got it they stopped.. max utility.. most people don’t.. in fact still.. so question is.. what got us to the point that we would act.. to want more and more

5 min – some say 1\ religion.. going to hell if not flourishing.. 2\ ads telling us that we need more stuff.. if you think about it.. if there wasn’t a natural urge in us to just stop at a certain point.. they wouldn’t have to do that.. if we just naturally wanted more and more they wouldn’t have to make us feel nervous about ourselves to make us need to consume more et al

if there wasn’t a natural urge in us to just stop at a certain point.. they wouldn’t have to do that

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garden-enough ness.. we have no idea what legit free people are like.. myth of tragedy and lord et al..

need means to undo our hierarchical listening so we can hear/grok that enough ness.. so we can org around legit needs

ie: a nother way

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