erich on mental health

erich fromm on mental health

via tweet [https://x.com/UberKierk/status/2011132109470245292?s=20]

notes/quotes from 90 sec clip:

i’m afraid the role of mental health movement.. psychology and psychiatry.. are to help to adjust men somewhat more.. to make him function more smoothly.. you might say psychology and mental health today are in danger.. and psychologists are in danger.. to become the priests of industrial system..

any form of people telling other people what to do ness et al

that is to say.. to help people adjust to a system where they are supposed to produce and consume in masses.. in groups.. directed by central organization and slogans and yet at the same time not to be aware..

fromm destructiveness law

aka: supposed to’s of school/work et al

help\ing ness et al

they are dissatisfied with that.. they suffer from it.. they suffer from what the french already called in the 18th cent la maladie du siecle.. the illness of the century.. from boredomm.. from the meaninglessness of life..

rather.. deeper than meaning ness (not sure if legit free people would spend their days seeking meaning.. too busy listening to heart et al)

rather.. missing pieces ness et al

now there is a danger in that .. that they might get sick.. that they might have manifest symptoms.. that they might protest.. that they might want to make life more meaningful..

fromm saddened law

hari present in society law.. krishnamurti measure law.. et al

and then many psychologists come and say.. you shouldn’t be dissatisfied.. if you are dissatisfied that means you are neurotic.. and we’ll adjust you so that you accept a meaningless life.. w/o rebelling against it.. w/o symptom.. and you will have a nice funeral anyway

myth of normal et al

fromm spontaneous law.. et al

nothing to date has gotten to the root of problem

legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuringaccountingpeople telling other people what to do

how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us..

ie: imagine if we listen to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)

the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness

[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]

there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance.. for (blank)’s sake..

ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition

otherwise we’ll keep perpetuating the same song.. the whac-a-mole-ing ness of sea world.. of not-us ness.. of part\ial ness.. [again].. for (blank)’s sake..

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fromm saddened law.. fromm spontaneous law.. fromm destructiveness law

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