nika on econ ness
nika dubrovsky on econ ness
[adding same day (because she posted them same day) as david on econ ness]
note: to me.. until/unless we try something legit diff (ie: bachelard oikos law via a sabbatical ish transition).. we’ll just keep perpetuating nika on econ ness.. (ie: the same song.. the whac-a-mole-ing ness of sea world.. of not-us ness.. of part\ial ness.. perpetuating survival triage.. for (blank)’s sake..)
via nika’s jul 10 2026 fb post [https://www.facebook.com/nikadubrovsky/posts/pfbid02HjhH3JwFs8GFZXijACNwvXCMQeTbJx3d1uDubB7y2BnonUuj5AmYoHo88XXPtw4el]:
Dear Elena Gapova comments very accurately on the text about independence, which is widely discussed in close circles of Russian-speaking migrants, mainly material and mainly women from men.
My five cents:
1) The Western version of feminism is built around the hypertrophic ideas of Thomas Hobbs and is no different from the usual capitalist trickery — how to survive in a situation (quite real, by the way) when everyone is at war with everyone: Men are the enemies of women, women are the enemies of men, and the only way not to be tricked by a treacherous partner is to sign a detailed one. contract, who to whom when and what and under what terms.
we need an econ (ie: bachelard oikos law et al) that will org/facil life over survival ness
The question remains what to do, desperately lonely and materially secured.
Leaving the gender capitalist battle with a bitten ear, without a roof over your head, and with life-long payments from your former partner’s debts is much worse.
nika & silvia on divorce et al.. marriage\ing et al..
2) People depend on each other not because they have different levels of income, but because this is the main feature of being a human. Children depend on their parents, but parents are often even more dependent on their children – they wait for their calls and suffer from their failures without any benefit for themselves.
because we’ve been in sea world since forever.. (hari rat park law et al) so we keep perpetuating ie: parents are the first ness et al.. and so the scramble ing ness continues
This is the difference between “value” and “ceonities”.
The value is my apartment in the center for 100 thousand, and the values are “my child’s health – priceless. “
graeber values law et al
Don’t confuse such things.
3) Maybe this is my personal trait, and other people fall in love easier, but it is very difficult for me to find a person who will be interested in me enough that I begin to depend on him. So when this happens, I feel like absolute luck.
part of the dance.. and why bachelard oikos law is so important.. otherwise.. keep perpetuating the same song.. the whac-a-mole-ing ness of sea world.. of not-us ness.. of part\ial ness.. perpetuating survival triage.. for (blank)’s sake..
My crush is way more to me than someone being in love with me. I’ve always believed that I could afford an irresponsible infatuation, if it turns out to be like this. I’ve waited for my first husband for two years, honestly telling all my current boyfriends: “I’m fine with you, but I’m in love with Sasha, and if he suddenly decides to come back, I’m sorry in advance, we’ll have to break up.” It was astonishing, but it didn’t stop me. And Sasha finally returned – after two whole years of waiting.
soul mate ness et al
4) The value of caring for another person, including sexual care, seems to me to be an obvious human need. There are traditional societies where refusing sexual intimacy with any member of the community is considered unworthy. Pretty much like turning down a request to drink water. Makes a lot of sense!
In Berlin, I had acquaintances – organizers of the trade union of European prostitutes. Young educated girls who liked sex, didn’t want to work hard and low-paid jobs, and felt that they were given safe and socially secured workplaces. One wrote a dissertation on prostitution.
master’s tools will never dismantle master’s house et al
Respect!
Marriages, household arrangements, including childbirth, in most cultures depend directly on the economic and social arrangements of society. To claim that marriages occur exclusively in heaven, on the basis of eternal love – the extreme degree of infantility.
Therefore, when a 35-year-old woman, who sells herself 12 hours a day at the boring job of an accountant at a concrete mixer factory, decides to give birth to two children, buy a cottage, a car, an apartment, and get a dog and a husband, she not only carefully reads the terms of apartment loans and health insurance, but also considers the professional activities of her husband. The salary of the candidate for the role of a business partner in the family happiness organization, the welfare of his family is of fundamental importance.
Therefore, when a 35-year-old woman, forced to work 12 hours a day as an accountant in a concrete plant, decides to give birth to two children, buy a cottage, a car, an apartment, and adopt a dog and a husband, she not only reads the terms of the mortgage and health insurance carefully, but also, for obvious reasons, depends on the income of her business partner called “family happiness”.
If a woman has children who are not supported by their father, it is reasonable that she will seek help. And good working conditions for your own care – including minettes, borscht cooking and vacation outdoors.
If a partner instead sits at the TV or sows family money in a bar, it is betrayal and a violation of the employment contract. Strikes, ultimatums and dismissals are reasonable and have nothing to do with delicate feelings.
5) The luxury of non-commercial relationships in family life is similar to the ability to write books without thinking about fees and royalties. Moreover, if in the case of the writer we are talking about personal asceticism, then for a family person it is talking about organizing care for the rest of the family. Mostly these obligations fall on women. That is why women, according to the respected Michael Dorfman remarked that left their husbands during Covid:
nothing to date has gotten to the root of problem
legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness
[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance..
ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition
otherwise we’ll keep perpetuating the same song.. the whac-a-mole-ing ness of sea world.. of not-us ness.. of part\ial ness.. perpetuating survival triage.. for (blank)’s sake..
note: on survival ness: survival is a means to survive things as they are.. so to me.. not a legit alt.. it’s triage.. perpetuating survival triage.. so a temp band aide per se.. that will /can help now.. but only for short term.. because it still doesn’t get to the root of the problem.. so it won’t offer/lead-to legit change/life/freedom.. et al.. so.. to me.. it’s still a cancerous distraction to the dance
In the feed, men tell how their wives left after losing their jobs as a result of of quarantine (I didn’t meet them for the husbands to leave)
There is a category of women that refers to marriage as to investment. They pay with real things – love, care… But if the investment does not bring the expected dividends, then they extract everything without any leftover and carry it somewhere else…. and Artem Kirpichenok reasonably noticed that
Well, capitalism is there. During feudalism, the investment was a woman – in fact, she was bought (and often and simply bought) so that she could plow and be able to bear 4-5 children. Nowadays women are forced to hustle and sell themselves (no dads or a family that will push you to a suitable groom)))
6) I personally am *not happy with my age and my life circumstances, which allow me to choose a partner regardless of their financial and social status. And I have to say – it wasn’t always like that.
*i think she meant now
[linked to elana post that starts]:
Zinaida Pronchenko (who I respect for her intelligence, professionalism, independence and sense of self-worth) had an interview with Yuri Dud, during which he asked: “What is it like to be an addicted woman?” ». *
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