marriage\ing

 

 

thinking.. a and a ness.. and thinking if we did life different.. how it soul mate ness might come to be expected.. like sharing is in the indigenous tribes Peter talks about.. ie: they don’t say thank you.. sharing is a given

thinking.. things like school.. mess with our a and a to such a degree (encouraging you to not be you.. encouraging you to not change your mind.. encouraging you to commit.. to the flag.. to the curriculum.. to the rules.. to the pkg deals.. to certainty..) that soul mate ness and marriage/ing and parent\ing are so very compromised..

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from Tim Urban:

how to pick life partner part 1

http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/02/pick-life-partner.html

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marriage decision –

http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/marriage-decision.html

Society, in most parts of the world, doesn’t like when a relationship lasts too long. To society, a relationship is simply a testing ground—an incubator that prepares you for The Decision. And if too many years go by in a relationship without The Decision being made, society decides that something must be wrong. To help right the wrong, society will begin to apply pressure on the couple, from all angles.

voluntary compliance ness

Some people are bigger than society. Most of us are not. For most of us, society’s rules are our rules, and as you and your person walk down your blue balance beam, you can feel the walking space melt away around you. It’s time to make The Decision.

Your relationship needs to be converted into Everything Forever or Nothing Ever Again. Soon.

The typical human isn’t really equipped to make The Decision. We evolved to live short lives, during which life-altering 60-year commitments weren’t a thing. We evolved in small communities without nearly as many available options. And most of us, when presented with The Decision, have relatively little relationship experience and an incomplete understanding of our own adult selves—selves that in many cases only recently started existing.

But society doesn’t care. So you decide.

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Helen Fisher

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via Jennifer share on fb:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/opinion/sunday/why-you-will-marry-the-wrong-person.html

In a wiser, more self-aware society than our own, a standard question on any early dinner date would be: “And how are you crazy?”

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The prestige of instinct is the traumatized reaction against too many centuries of unreasonable reason.

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How logical, then, that we should as grown-ups find ourselves rejecting certain candidates for marriage not because they are wrong but because they are too right — too balanced, mature, understanding and reliable — given that in our hearts, such rightness feels foreign. We marry the wrong people because we don’t associate being loved with feeling happy.

We make mistakes, too, because we are so lonely. No one can be in an optimal frame of mind to choose a partner when remaining single feels unbearable.

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Indeed, marriage tends decisively to move us onto another, very different and more administrative plane,

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Rather than some notional idea of perfect complementarity, it is the capacity to tolerate differences with generosity that is the true marker of the “not overly wrong” person. Compatibility is an achievement of love; it must not be its precondition.

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shared by Kosta on fb – via school of life – how we marry wrong person:

http://www.thebookoflife.org/how-we-end-up-marrying-the-wrong-people/

One: We don’t understand ourselves

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All of us are crazy in very particular ways. We’re distinctively neurotic, unbalanced and immature, but don’t know quite the details because no one ever encourages us too hard to find them out. An urgent, primary task of any lover is therefore to get a handle on the specific ways in which they are mad. They have to get up to speed on their individual neuroses. They have to grasp where these have come from, what they make them do – and most importantly, what sort of people either provoke or assuage them. A good partnership is not so much one between two healthy people (there aren’t many of these on the planet), it’s one between two demented people who have had the skill or luck to find a non-threatening conscious accommodation between their relative insanities.

authenticity… eudaimonia ness

A standard question on any early dinner date should be quite simply: ‘And how are you mad?’

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Two: We don’t understand other people

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In the absence of all this, we are led – in large part – by what they look like. There seems to be so much information to be gleaned from their eyes, nose, shape of forehead, distribution of freckles, smiles… But this is about as wise as thinking that a photograph of the outside of a power station can tell us everything we need to know about nuclear fission.

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The level of knowledge we need for a marriage to work is higher than our society is prepared to countenance, recognise and accommodate for – and therefore our social practices around getting married are deeply wrong.

a nother way – getting at a and a

Three: We aren’t used to being happy

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We marry the wrong people because the right ones feel wrong – undeserved; because we have no experience of health, because we don’t ultimately associate being loved with feeling satisfied.

Four: Being single is so awful

One is never in a good frame of mind to choose a partner rationally when remaining single is unbearable.

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Far better to rearrange society so that it resembles a university or a kibbutz – with communal eating, shared facilities, constant parties and free sexual mingling… That way, anyone who did decide marriage was for them would be sure they were doing it for the positives of coupledom rather than as an escape from the negatives of singlehood.

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Five: Instinct has too much prestige

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Six: We don’t go to Schools of Love

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Seven: We want to freeze happiness

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Eight: We believe we are special

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Nine: We want to stop thinking about Love

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from Adam Tanner‘s what stays in vegas.. and the ridiculousness of our docs..

p 47

they pay $60, provide their birth dates and places of birth, address, parents’ names (including mothers’ maiden names), the parents’ places of birth, details about any previous marriages, and social security numbers…. everyone goes thru same process… after wedding.. presiding official has ten days to send the marriage cert to the clark county recorder’s office, which scans the doc and enters the data.. if the couple ends up buying property, the recorder’s office logs those details, as well as liens, court judgments, financing, and other relevant docs..

dang.. what are relevant docs..? not any of the above..

marriage\ing ness – we’re so crazy..

all of the personal info captured in this process is public. anyone can see it, record it, and pass it on or sell it to others and that’s exactly what a handful of individuals such as marc hall do. they spend their days trolling thru public computers at the clark county recorder’s office hunting down info to sell to others such as banks and title companies…… ie: an alarm installation business pays him $35 a day to gather the latest home purchase registrations. he types in up to 200 new registrations a day, recording them as soon as they are posted. speed is important because a homeowners ill buy only one alarm system. …. another co pays hall %40 a case to research a property’s history, including liens, judgments, mortgages, and tax info. co’s might use such info to refinance lans, for ie? clark co places summary info from many of its public dos online, but not the actual docs. hall’s value comes from extracting details from the scanned copies of the original docs, which may contain ssn (in more recent docs these are redacted from public view), dates of birth, and fuller details. co’s doing background searches on potential hires ask him to check court records about people, earning him anywhere from $4 to $10 per person….. he makes anywhere from 80 000 to 150 000 a year. …

p 48

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until the internet era, people who wanted to see marriage licenses or other public docs would have to go in person to a govt office and apply to see a specific doc. after a wait of some minutes, the visitor would peruse the papers in a reception area under the watchful eye of a dept employee. copying pages was expensive at $1 a page.

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the girl who looked in the mirror – and said – i have home

http://nicaskew.com/collection/the-girl-who-looked-into-the-mirror/

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know yourself

http://www.thebookoflife.org/know-yourself/

We try to get together with people who don’t really suit us, because we don’t understand our needs

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know someone else/rhythm

fb share by flow genome project

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/11/16/why-do-orgasms-feel-so-good-neuroscientist-explains-that-we-reach-an-altered-state-of-consciousness/

This level of concentration cannot be achieved through any other natural stimulation. Our self-awareness is essentially gone in that moment…if stimulation proceeds for a longer length of time, the synchronization spreads throughout the brain enabling us to become more focused than ever.

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The desire for a deeper connection provides further proof to our obsession to know more about how the functions of sex affect our connectedness with self, and others.

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The study revealed a common theme: sexual climax, seizures, music, and dance all flood the brain’s sensory channels with rhythmic inputs. Dr. Safron believes that because sexual activity is so similar to music and dance, the rhythm-keeping ability may serve as a test of fitness for potential mates.

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15 minutes. The result is said to be therapeutic, rather than sexual. The “stroking” allegedly activates the limbic system and releases a flood of oxytocin.

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actively engage in being present and release the pressure we allow society to instil within us.

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http://www.elephantjournal.com/2016/11/we-only-fall-in-love-with-3-people-in-our-lifetime-each-one-for-a-specific-reason/

resonating.. and too.. perhaps.. insight into the toxic ness of a supposed to world.. thinking we have to go thru.. 3 .. et al…

ie: perhaps the 80 yr old photo.. is from people who were 1\lucky in the finding 2\lucky in their eudaimonia

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via Maria – kahlil gibran on difficult balance of intimacy and independence

Love one another but make not a bond of love: let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.

https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/09/27/kahlil-gibran-the-prophet-love-marriage/

“What’s the use of falling in love if you both remain inertly as-you-were?” Mary McCarthy asked her friend Hannah Arendt in their correspondence about love. The question resonates because it speaks to a central necessity of love — at its truest and most potent, love invariably does change us, deconditioning our painful pathologies and elevating us toward our highest human potential.

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When lovers are expected to fuse together so closely and completely, mutuality mutates into a paralyzing codependence — a calcified and rigid firmness that becomes brittle to the possibility of growth. In the most nourishing kind of love, the communion of togetherness coexists with an integrity of individuality, the two aspects always in dynamic and fluid dialogue.

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Let there be spaces in your togetherness,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.

Love one another but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
Fill each other’s cup but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.

Give your hearts, but not into each other’s keeping.
For only the hand of Life can contain your hearts.
And stand together, yet not too near together:
For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other’s shadow.

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safe place to fall apart

http://www.onbeing.org/blog/omid-safi-if-community-were-a-safe-place-to-fall-apart/9094

What we talk about as “getting divorced” is often merely the last stage, the legal one. Before that, there have been many other divorces.

last..? legal..?

why/how have we decided relationships fall under legal/financial terms/regs/defns…? this.. thinking.. much worse than divorce ness.. crippling us.. blinding us

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rabbi shmuley boteach on cheating

http://bigthink.com/videos/why-men-cheat-with-shmuley-boteach?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox#link_time=1482714428

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oh man

https://www.brainpickings.org/2017/01/20/kahlil-gibran-mary-haskell-love-letters/

I feel so lonely when I *stand alone before a great work of art. Even in Heaven one must have a beloved companion in order to enjoy it fully.

or *when the world weeps/dies..

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God lends me His heart to love you with. I asked for it when I found my own was too small, and it really holds you, and leaves you room to grow.

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In the spring, Haskell writes to Gibran in New York, channeling her unselfish love and her longing in parallel in a letter that could well be a poem:

What are you writing — and how does it go? And what are you thinking about — and how does it go? And what do you want to talk with me about? — and how do You go?

And why aren’t your arms six hours long to reach to Boston?

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And when will You come to me in a dream and make night sweeter than night?

That October, Gibran repays the “continuity of conscious togetherness” that Haskell had always trusted would bloom between them even though, and perhaps precisely because, they chose not to marry:

The most wonderful thing, Mary, is that you and I are always walking together, hand in hand, in a strangely beautiful world, unknown to other people. We both stretch one hand to receive from Life — and Life is generous indeed.

I love to be silent with you, Mary.

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@brainpicker

Bill Moyers talks to sociologist Anne Wortham about the true meaning of individualism and personal authenticity brainpickings.org/2017/02/02/ann…

‘If..for us to love..must be something closer to our view..our grand scheme..then our own obligation to him is simply not to love him’

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love is the movement

course at nyu – love actually – megan: the course i wished i could have taken

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/mar/17/love-course-nyu-megan-poe

Letter Seven of Rilke’s Letters to a Young Poet is a beautiful summation of two different forms of love: immature love and mature love. As Rilke sees it, in immature love, there’s a merger that happens, a fusion where you don’t know where you end and the other person begins. You see this in new relationships sometimes where one partner says, “I want to do what you want to do,” and you get the sense that they’ve forfeited their own identity somehow. In the letter, this is contrasted with mature love where there’s an ability to be in the self and at the same time be with another. What Fromm calls “standing in love” as opposed to “falling in love’.

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That’s one of the things that The Art of Loving really emphasizes: that to love well, you need to be present.

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We look at parent-infant love; friendship; self-love; love of things (our passions); love between a mentor and a student or the kind of love that can exist in therapy – a kind of loving, holding environment that allows the person to self-actualise. A big part of the class is expanding students’ ideas of what love is and what’s contained inside that concept. Romantic love gets its air time, too.

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. I think our human nature is to love and it’s much larger than just reproducing ourselves.

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Esther Perel: The secret to desire in a long-term relationship – via fb share by jason(https://www.facebook.com/jasonlsilva/videos/1616315331966079/)

https://www.ted.com/talks/esther_perel_the_secret_to_desire_in_a_long_term_relationship#t-1123250

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from James Suzman‘s affluence w/o abundance

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the inability of most ju/’hoansi on the farms to freely hunt larger game left a chasm in their lives, one for which there was no obvious substitute if they didn’t have a job. many filled the vacuum w alcohol, which at least provided them an opp to vent their frustrations. hunting was much more than a means of providing nutrition among foraging ju/’hoansi. it animated men’s relationships with the world around them, gave them purpose, and imbued the cosmos w a sensate touch of the real. the meat it provided not only filled th ju/’hoansi’s bellies and gave them strength, it created a visceral sense of pleasure so profound that they insisted it was the glue that bound men and women together in love. for where the farmers sanctified their marriages w rings and promises of fidelity, ju/’hoansi sanctified their unions w meat

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http://thepowerofideas.ideapod.com/osho-explains-marriage-ruin-life/

love cannot be legalized. love and law are contradictory phenomena

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AJ+ (@ajplus) tweeted at 5:28 PM – 12 Oct 2017 :

20,000 girls become child brides every single day. https://t.co/0WtPs3dxx0 (http://twitter.com/ajplus/status/918619311081537536?s=17)

Wafa’ Babsail (@WafiBsail) tweeted at 5:31 PM – 12 Oct 2017 :

@ajplus Can you also not forget the boys under 18 who are sometimes also forced to marry those girls? It’s wrong no matter what (http://twitter.com/WafiBsail/status/918620165096595456?s=17)

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