jordan on civium vs city

Civium vs City by Jordan Hall (Midjourney) – 6 min video – sept 2023

more/latest of jordan (green)hall on civium project

via michel bauwens tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1711738001099989439?s=20]:

Civilization was essentially an arrangement between the rural and the urban, based on the ‘superlinear’ advantages of city life in terms of interconnections of intelligence. But now, the digital creates a new type of superlinearity. This is why mere localism is sublinear, but cosmo-localism combines the advantages of both material localization and cosmically cooperating human intelligence. This will be the new synthesis for the fourth generation civilization. Thanks @jgreenhall for this simple intro: https://youtube.com/watch?v=m9oeVtWFOXU

linking to 6 min video.. Civium vs City.. repeating/condensing top of jordan on civium project page’s 18 min video (which is now saying it is blocked.. oi)

[wasn’t going to add page.. because math/ie’s are all about money.. et al.. so to me.. irrelevant whalespeak.. but last minute of video.. when he goes it to collective intellect ness as the key.. oi.. just oi]

notes/quotes:

can read about it in geoffrey west’s book called scale – The Universal Laws of Growth, Innovation, Sustainability and the Pace of Life in Organisms, Cities, Economies, and Companies

geoffrey west – scale

*sublinear scaling at very heart of living systems.. ie: elephants as big as going to get.. systems have limits to growth built in.. humans the same.. **ie: take a corp and add more people.. i don’t increase revenue per person.. at certain point just not getting productivity

*his defn of sublinear.. which to me is irrelevant to a nother way for us all to live.. ie: legit free people has nothing to do (so a cancerous distraction) with size of anything.. what we need to scale is the conditions for legit freedom.. ie: infinitesimal structures approaching the limit of structureless\ness and/or vice versa .. aka: ginorm/small ness ie: nonjudgmental expo labeling

**oi.. huge red flag this is just another cancerous distraction.. keeping us in same song

2 min – ie: cities.. pop vs length of roads.. if double pop length of roads don’t double.. in this city like a forest..

only in cities did they (west et al) not only find a sublinear scaling metric.. but a superlinear.. every makes avg 10 000/month.. double pop.. now everybody makes 11 500.. very important thing.. so choose big city.. make more money.. which makes it bigger.. cities are to people as stars are to atoms.. a gravitational attractor to pack as many in city as possible .. increase wealth/innovation.. forces constraints.. 

holy cow

3 min – see to max use tech available to overcome limitations/constraints of physical bodies to pack as many as possible into cities to get this superlinear growth to improve wealth/innovation.. and then effectively running into the limits of that

4 min – the entire population composed of city and support infra.. which means it’s becoming fragile.. ie: crime/disease also increase superlinearly.. so get a collapse in civ..

key idea here is city, attraction, repulsion, dynamic.. until now.. 

5 min – if you think about the core attractor is not the city.. *the real driver is minds in relationship.. distinct intelligence is happening thru some mech.. things like video conferences.. virtual reality.. t have enough possibility of relationship in the virtual.. that we can in fact decouple the attractor and the repulser.. **if we can render unto the virtual what is best done in the virtual and render into the physical what is best done in the physical.. then bring those back into proper relationship..t we can change the whole game.. creative, generative, collaboration in the virtual.. and now here.. we can in fact have a single city.. one place where all minds.. at least in principle can be in that relationship with each other.. they can communicate/interrelate.. ***no longer constrained in the same way.. by physicality..

*oi .. the real driver is legit free people.. intellectness as cancerous distraction we can’t seem to let go of.. there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. for (blank)’s sake.. and we’re missing it

**again..  legit use of tech/virtual/whatever (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. need global detox leap first/most

need 1st/most: means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature as global detox/re\set.. so we can org around legit needs

imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness as nonjudgmental expo labeling)

***the restraint is not the physical.. it’s the conditions that are keeping us not free.. it’s that we are in sea world and need to get out.. other than ‘scaling’ for that .. all else is irrelevant (to legit free people)

6 min – by the way .. this implies we should get significant increases in wealth and innovation.. on the other side.. *bodies can be returned to humanness.. to a more humane way of living.. **living among people who you know well.. strong relationships.. living in nature.. making sure place you’re living is built at human scale.. ***walkable, quiet, low toxicity.. all the human scale living we’ve had to surrender

*not if still any form of m\a\p.. ie: if still in sea world

**for that need global detox leap.. for (blank)’s sake

***oi.. cancerous distractions.. rather.. our surrender has been missing pieces.. need a means to get those back.. again.. otherwise.. just perpetuating same song

findings:

1\ undisturbed ecosystem (common\ing) can happen

2\ if we create a way to ground the chaos of 8b legit free people

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