adding in days of fake hype.. fake news/data et al..


Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) tweeted at 5:11 AM – 24 Nov 2016 :

Does this @paulkrugman tweet – RT’d 2,500 times – count as Fake News? https://t.co/Pk3Avq8EiS(http://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/801760147676729344?s=17)


wondering why we get so blown up about fake ness.. when we’re swimming in it..


Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) tweeted at 4:06 PM – 23 Nov 2016 :

For ongoing, smart commentary on the raging left/liberal debate over how diversity & economics/class interact, follow @sansdn. (http://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/801562501100032000?s=17)

isn’t this fake..? (meaning not us).. these debates over things that don’t matter to ie: people being


Edward Dark (@edwardedark) tweeted at 7:26 AM – 21 Nov 2016 :

School releases pics of students murdered yesterday by West backed terrorist rebel shelling on west Aleppo #Syria https://t.co/3i3ZmJ8zHX https://t.co/z8kZH8Tpxl (http://twitter.com/edwardedark/status/800706989261103104?s=17)


Oz Katerji (@OzKaterji) tweeted at 5:01 AM – 24 Nov 2016 :

A third of the Calais Jungle children have gone missing https://t.co/hvYtO2uZ38 via @HuffPostUK (http://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/801757674832613376?s=17)


Collin Rees (@collinrees) tweeted at 3:35 PM – 22 Nov 2016 :

300 injured at #StandingRock: “He just smiled & shot both my kneecaps.” Atrocities inflicted on #NoDAPL protectors: https://t.co/cmqmYU0YGWhttps://t.co/kmQz9XxFLs (http://twitter.com/collinrees/status/801192489541472256?s=17)


de legitimized

Daniel Wickham (@DanielWickham93) tweeted at 5:20 AM – 24 Nov 2016 :

Israel revives plans for 500 new settler homes in Jerusalem after Trump win https://t.co/eDz3bsBi8w(http://twitter.com/DanielWickham93/status/801762509028028416?s=17)

[these just random from readings today..]

point is.. we can go on about fake news that seems blatant.. seems the more invisible (frogs in hot water) fake ness is what’s killing us..


this is ridiculous

is it real (legit)


wake up

science of people

broken feedback loop

wilde not us law

let’s try a nother way.. perhaps a way to get 7 bn being most real we can be.. everyday.. as the day


insight from Fred

“Fascism and The Historical Irony of Facebook’s “Fake News” Problem” by @kimmaicutler https://t.co/OI8P9AYGCR

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/bacigalupe/status/802506560316444672

How did the country that brought us Goethe and Beethoven bring us Hitler?

Many Americans blamed the mass media.


If they used mass media, they risked turning Americans into authoritarians. But if they didn’t, they wondered, how would they achieve the national unity they needed to fight fascism?

There was one school of thought that said, “We’ll just copy [Joseph] Goebbels. We’ll de-program Americans later [if they turn totalitarian].”

But there were about 60 American intellectuals who were part of something called the Committee for National Morale who had another idea. These were people like anthropologists Gregory Bateson and Margaret Mead, psychologist Gordon Allport, and the curator Arthur Upham Pope.


They dreamed of media that would surround you, that would require you to make your own choices and use your individual perception to define the images that mattered most to you. It was meant to be a kind of media environment within which you could make your own decisions, and so become more individually unique. At the same time, it put you in the company of others doing the same thing. The environment was designed to help forge both individual identity and collective unity simultaneously.


Over the next 50 years, through a series of twists and turns, the democratic media dreams of the Committee for National Morale actually set the stage for Facebook, Twitter and other kinds of peer-to-peer media.

The irony is that with Donald Trump, we are seeing a medium and a set of tactics designed to confront fascism being used to produce a new authoritarianism.


Trump has use the media to take over an existing state apparatus.


The multi-media images in “The Democratic Surround” provide a glimpse of the kind of perceptual world that media thinkers believed would make us less racist and more embracing of our differences. It’s a world in which we’re meant to practice looking at and identifying with others who are not like ourselves.


multi-image environments as part of trade fairs or exhibitions in the belief that they would give people the ability to practice the modes of perception that democracy depends upon

math as diff perception – roger et al


The second way the surround aesthetic has come down to us and helped drive the rise of social media is through the art world. Thanks to John Cage, it became the basis of Happenings in New York in the late 1950s. Cage believed that concerts and symphonies embodied the hierarchies of old Europe and were essentially exercises in domination by aural means. He knew the Bauhaus refugees well. And so he did with sound what they had done with pictures. He designed sonic surrounds that would open people up to listening to sounds around them and choosing the ones that were most valuable to them.


then to stewart brand and.. If they just built the right geodesic domes, took the right LSD, and surrounded themselves with the right music and light shows, lots of folks believed they could establish a new and better society. This society would be based on a shared mindset, a shared consciousness that technology would help create.

This idea of shared consciousness became a conceptual foundation of the Internet as it emerged into public view.

Stewart Brand and the people who were building communes in the 1960s reimagined computers as technologies of liberation. They turned the dreams of the commune movement — which by then had failed — into fantasies that the Internet could be an “electronic frontier.” The computer would now be a “personal” technology — that is, a tool like LSD for the transformation of consciousness. And the net would link these technology-enabled minds together in “virtual community.

The counterculture’s utopian vision of technology still lingers in the air when, say, Ev Williams founds Twitter, or even when Mark Zuckerberg declares his desire to connect everyone on the planet through Facebook.

huge.. looking at intention..


If multi-media was such a democratizing force, why is mass media still here?

One of the things we see with Trump and the Twitter-sphere is that when new technologies come on the scene, they don’t replace old technologies. They layer onto older technologies.

Twitter and its liberating potential is already mass mediated. It’s already commercial. When Donald tweets, he isn’t just tweeting to a general populace. He’s generating stories for CBS and NBC, and for that matter, Facebook. He’s generating stories that create an entire media sphere on their own. That is the source of his power. He is using the old fascist charisma, but he’s doing it in a media environment in which the social and the commercial, the individual and the mass, are already completely entwined.


I think “fake news’ is a really important phenomenon. It’s rumor, and one of the things social media do best is accelerate rumors. Social media radically disable fact checking. They make it easy for people to make up stories that can travel at the speed of light. Social media also show that the original idea that the Internet could be a neutral dissemination medium for news was just a fantasy.

I’m not at all sure how firms should manage the new situation, let alone how the state should intervene. “Fake news” is only part of the problem. The real problem is actually more of a structural problem. Media firms in lots of different subsets need to make money on advertising. When you are dependent on advertising, controversy is good. Truth ceases to matter. It doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not. What matters is that it gets a lot of attention.

fake ness


It’s the turn from fact that makes fascism possible. If they turn away from reasoning altogether, they can turn toward feeling like part of a body following a charismatic leader.


we can’t pretend that engineers are not legislators of public discourse anymore.


If Donald Trump is a fascist, he’s a fascist for this time and this country, because the source of his power is his ability to manage and grab attention.


another/longer twitter/swimming reflection..

twitter has led me to/thru ie: wikipedia.. creating a more everyday life wikipedia ness.. an ongoing/pivoting dance ness..

which has helped me see perhaps a more legit/real fake news ie: that most of us are not-us.. science of people ness..

and all the ridiculous/shiny ways we keep perpetuating that/irrelevant s.. the more i hear our souls screaming.. i need you to wake up

cc/grazies.. @jack @jimmy_wales @flakenstein @cblack_ @leashless @campoSOFIA


from Sarah:


But do not be fooled by cynical claims that “nothing matters.” When people are suffering, it matters. When lies enable that suffering, exposing them matters. Truth is always worth fighting for. But to get to the heart of the truth, you must examine the nature of the lie.

agree.. totally agree.. but let’s go deeper.. to heart of truth.. why people are suffering..

none of us if one of us..

from Ethan:

“Lunch with my friend, the Trump supporter” @EthanZ
https://t.co/uzpEeqdBUiOriginal Tweet: https://twitter.com/dougald/status/809656997893259264

I’m uncomfortable both with where that line should be placed and, more broadly, with placing lines.[..]

Some “fake news” is propaganda. It’s weaponized text, designed to make our side look good and the other side look bad. Much propaganda isn’t fake – it’s simply heavily biased, and offers an incomplete view of events to have a persuasive effect.

but much of it is fake in the sense that it’s news about people who aren’t themselves.. so yes.. it’s news.. and it’s telling it like it is.. but.. what it is.. what we are.. isn’t really us.. wilde not-us law

naive/utopian/whatever.. i’m believing that eudaimoniative surplus is possible if we rewire wisely..

The medium term effect of propaganda is polarization, as we stop seeing our political opponents as reasonable people we disagree with, but as people who are so wrong and misguided that we couldn’t possibly find common ground with them. In the long term, propaganda destroys democracy, because it silences dissent and calcifies the parties currently in power.

A small amount of “fake news” is better described as *disinformatzya. Its goal is not to persuade readers of its truth so much as it attempts to raise doubt in the reader that anything is true. We’re not used to disinformatzya in the US, but it’s been quite common not only in Russia but in Turkey, where Erdogan has manufactured fake news designed to reduce Turkish trust in Twitter, trying to disable it as a vehicle for organized opposition to his leadership. The long-term effect of disinformatzya is reduced faith in institutions of all sorts: the press in particular, but government, banks, NGOs, etc. Who benefits from this doubt? People who already have power benefit from a population that’s disempowered, frustrated, confused. And highly charismatic leaders who promise guidance away from failed institutions benefit personally from this mistrust.

*from disinformatzya link


These hoaxes suggest an interesting new chapter in the ongoing infowar between the US and Russia. The goal of the infowar may no longer be to promote or discredit either the Kremlin or the White House. The goal may be to destroy trust in the internet, in social media and in news.

fake i refer  to is….ie: money as os;. govt as is as given; earn a living as given; school as give n; defn of success as given; war as given; people lazy as given…..

thinking .. imaginary humanism.. aka: science of people in schools

decades, nations have worked to produce news that reflects their specific point of view. The

any ones pov… as truth… fake


It should not have been a surprise that Russia would take to international broadcasting to promote a national agenda, joining stated sponsored

yes.. more this.. anything w agenda… anyone’s pov as agenda.. fake to a human being


There’s a long history in American politics of conspiracy theories gaining wide audiences. Historian Richard Hofstadter identified this in 1964 as “The Paranoid Style in American Politics”, a tendency for those who feel alienated and dispossessed to see America as controlled by a secret cabal. Knowing that it is unlikely to persuade the majority of Americans to see their government as a global hegemon and Russia as the tireless defender of sovereign nations, perhaps RT is appealing to those who are predisposed to “Question More”, as the network’s slogan suggests. While that approach won’t work for most Americans, it may work for the 19% of Americans who believe the government was responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
predisposed to question more… like a 5 yr old… before they enter fake world of school…
aka: the good intentioned rt..no..?
outside agitation in creating “color revolutions” is consistent with Russia’s preferred framing of the world – sovereignty versus agitation – rather than the US’s preferred framing – democracy versus authoritarianism.

ie: when has democracy ever been anti authoritarian…? when have we ever not sought to control that 5 yr old… sought to control people… smaller local groups doesn’t change game enough.. we have to ongoingly be approaching limit of ginorm small…ie: self-talk as data… as the day

cure ios city


It’s expensive to persuade someone to believe something that isn’t true. Persuading someone that _nothing_ is true, that every “fact” represents a hidden agenda, is a far more efficient way to paralyze citizens and keep them from acting. It’s a dark art, one with a long past in Russia and in the US, and one we’re now living with online.

if we consider.. not true because not us… creates an awakening…

yeah.. so thinking .. imaginary humanism.. aka: science of people in schools.. what we’re doing to 5 yr olds (so all of us) much deeper issue than (because it’s allowing) the rt (russain today) ness fake ness..



Did I get it right? Fake news is news that hasn’t been twisted by think-tanks, sponsored by foundations, and spinned by professional PR?



“The Deep Truth about ‘Fake News’” by @cognitivepolicy medium.com/@joe_brewer/th…

what we all need to do..build institutional capacities to make sense of big data on reg basis

but first.. do-over

ie: self-talk as data so people aren’t fake

access to reality


Hugo Pickford-Wardle (@Hugopw) tweeted at 5:02 AM – 27 Dec 2016 :

Hive mind assemble! There is now a crowdsourcing campaign to solve the problem of fake news – https://t.co/nS3jZIIv6a(http://twitter.com/Hugopw/status/813716585219235840?s=17)

Upworthy co-founder Eli Pariser is leading a group of volunteers to try to find a way to determine if news online is real or not


Inside a Google Doc, volunteers are gathering ideas and approaches to get a grip on the untruthful news stories. It is part analysis, part brainstorming, with those involved being encouraged to read widely around the topic before contributing. “This is a massive endeavour but well worth it,” they say.


Possible methods the group is looking at include: more human editors, fingerprinting viral stories then training algorithms on confirmed fakes, domain checking, the blockchain, a reliability algorithm, sentiment analysis, a Wikipedia for news sources, and more.

a wikipedia-style hosted-life-bits [data via self-talk.. so a wikipedia-like gathering of everyone’s insight on some blockchain-type host.. captured/sourced per topic..like billions of wikipedia editors via mech facilitating that chaos]..[w/in gershenfeld sel ness.. so less fake happening on purpose]


less about determining what is/isn’t fake news.. perhaps it’s all fake.. or it’s all real..

more about all of us spending our days doing the thing we can’t not do.. (gershenfeld sel).. no one would be having a desire (or a hole) urging them to create fake ness..

easier to trust all of us (if we’re truly set free).. than to police fake ness