david is funny
what a collection of clips.. sept 2020
David had a way of communicating ideas considered radical that made them sound like common sense. And with an unassuming sense of humor.
david is funny
7 min – most people don’t think anarchism is a bad idea.. they think it is insane
10 min – what is sacred is not to pay debts but to forgive them
24 min – (at ted) no where in the constitution does it talk about america being a democracy.. in fact all those guys hated democracy.. ie: speech at introductory convention: we’ve got a problem.. there’s way too much democracy.. we need to contain this
27 min – people ask me this all the time.. how can i be an anarchist and be for that (nhs, public services via govt) .. i make a distinction between institutions that could exist w/o violence and one’s that couldn’t .. any institution that could exist w/o ultimately being able to call up somebody w a stick/gun to say.. ‘i don’t care what you think.. shut up and do what you’re told’.. but if you don’t have recourse to that and you could still run the organization anyway.. that’s fine
people telling people what to do ness – structural violence et al
28 min – def of utopian system.. is that when something goes wrong.. it’s something wrong w the people.. all of them
basically what we’ve done is we’ve gotten rid of the corruption problem in america by making it legal.. our entire political system is based on bribery.. basically what our econ is based on a huge system of circulating bribes
30 min – about imagination but against it.. on superheroes.. being least imaginative ever.. fight crime.. only people applying imagination are the evil guys
31 min – more on (7 min ) .. growing up w dad who believed anarchism would work
37 min – culture is what you won’t do.. what you refuse to do.. has a lot to do w defiance
52 min – it’s almost as if they’re trying to redefine freedom as owning a piece of your own perpetual subordination.. t
1:02 – systems like decentralized consensus.. that could work w/o coercion.. w/o a police force.. i always say.. an anarchist org is any form of org that would not require guys w weapons to show up at a certain point and say.. everybody shut up and do what you’re told.. so any system where you don’t need those guys could be an anarchist system.. *so what we’re trying to create are decision making methods that could work w/o violent enforcement.. t
telling people what to do ness.. socrates supposed to law
*imagine if we let go of decision making as the focus.. and instead focused on daily curiosity.. we’d need less/no decision-making/consensus/coercion to some assumed/enforced finite set of choices.. so no need for violence/violent-enforcement
1:03 – you don’t rise according to merit.. but instead you rise out of your ability to pretend that people rise according to merit.. t
merit ness
1:16 – graeber min/max law
1:27 – on internet just helping us do more paperwork/B
bureaucracy ness
1:38 – anarchism isn’t against org.. it means people don’t have to be compelled to org themselves.. in fact they believe in org more than anybody else..t
telling people what to do ness as red flag we’re doing it/life wrong
‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows
1:46 – language is always changing.. people like to play around.. but if you tell people they’re doing it wrong.. they’ll believe you.. the fundamental dilemma that makes bureaucracy possible
let’s try idiosyncratic jargon
1:48 – there’s always something that’s just about to destroy us all
1:51 – democracy becomes this strange system where freedom means being able to own a piece of your own permanent exploitation
1:55 – i thought tech was supposed to increase our social possibilities.. and not only that.. people seem to think that’s true of all future techs as well.. ‘i’ll never be able to invent anything which would allow a diff type of econ system’.. i’m sure there’s a million diff ways (to increase our social possibilities).. we’re just not putting our minds to it.. because people who are best able to do such things mostly don’t have resources to work with or are bought out by people who want to reproduce the same system..t
1:57 – everybody turns into a tech determinist when you throw radical ideas at them
1:59 – what value is all about is about an audience.. relative to eyes of someone else.. what do you value and who do you want to care about that
2:01 – makes you think.. what is it about living under a state.. under someone else’s authority.. w constant threat of violence if you break the rules.. that actually causes behavior that makes it seem self evident that people would behave violently if there wasn’t set structures
black science of people/whales law.. tragedy of the non common.. et al.. we have no idea
2:04 – it makes sense.. once you’re operating outside state enforcement.. you can’t have cut throat competition when there’s nobody stopping you from actually cutting each other’s throats.. so you have to have a certain level of trust to be able to operate at all.. so that changes the whole nature of the transaction
most people don’t think anarchism is a bad idea.. they just think it’s insane..’that would never happen’.. but i didn’t grow up in a family where people though it was insane because they’d seen it work.. so.. if it’s not crazy why not be one.. (host: funny thing is everybody has experience of it working at small scale).. and that’s what i mean by everyday communism.. from each according to their abilities to each according to their needs.. what i discovered at occupy movement is that americans are much better at communism than they are at democracy.. that’s what you do if you’re trying to fix something.. get a task together.. but when it means coming together in large groups and making a collective decision.. no one had ever done that
perhaps that’s not natural.. perhaps only large group decision we need to make is.. let’s base our org/infra on what is the essence of being human.. and then trust the rest
2:06 – kropotkin: only reason don’t have techs (to do dirty jobs) is that rich people don’t really need them
on just needing to add to first amendment.. because we don’t have freedom of speech.. freedom to gather.. if we have to ask permission first.. once we do that.. rest will take care of self
graeber mechs to hear law:
2:07 – i would say there’s nobody on earth.. who could not think of at least one idea of how to solve a common problem that plagues us that none of us could have solved.. now why is it we’re not hearing those things from them.. because 99.9% of them spend most of their lives being told to shut up all the time.. and we need to figure out how to create mechanisms to stop doing that.. and once we do.. i think the rest will take care of itself
yes that.. a means to undo our hierarchical listening ie: 2 convers as infra
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Nika Dubrovsky (@nikadubrovsky) tweeted at 5:34 AM on Fri, Sep 11, 2020:
David Graeber is funny https://t.co/ZXqnkwyuek via @YouTube via @anarchoBMX
(https://twitter.com/nikadubrovsky/status/1304382924243042305?s=03)
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on david dying et al
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be you. 