robin on being human

via robin carhart-harris tweet [https://twitter.com/RCarhartHarris/status/1705840381508932015/photo/4]:

This last week has been a big one for ‘consciousness science’. Feels fitting to end it with this beautiful poetic naturalism.

The last 4 pages of Douglas Hofstadter’s remarkable “I am a strange loop”.

As I am entrenching, whenever I see “entrench” now, I think of “canalisation” – and I entrench my little idea a little deeper and my learned ‘I’ in the process. Time for a sleep, perchance to dream

art (by day/light) and sleep (by night/dark) as global re\set.. to fittingness (undisturbed ecosystem)

oikos (the economy our souls crave).. ‘i should say: the house shelters day-dreaming, the house protects the dreamer, the house allows one to dream in peace.’ – gaston bachelard, the poetics of space

notes/quotes from 4 photos from book:

360 photo 1

the *pattern reaches full bloom when there come to be a deeply entrenched self rep.. a story told by the entity to itself.. in which the entity ‘i’ plays the starring role.. as a unitary casual agent driven by a **set of desires.. more precisely, an ***entity is animate to the degree that such a loop ‘i’ pattern comes into existence since this pattern’s presence is by no means an all or nothing affair.. thus to the extent that there is an ‘i’ pattern in a given substrate, there is animacy and ****where there is not such pattern , the entity is inanimate

yeah.. i think once there is a *set pattern.. there is no more animacy.. we die..

**what we’re entrenched in .. to me.. is non legit.. non legit free human.. desires.. willard soul hunger law et al..

***to me.. that’s the the death of us ness.. naming the colour et al..

****to me.. only legit free/alive.. when let go (carhart-harris entropy law) of any form of m\a\p.. pattern as order.. order as death

the notion that such a pattern grows enormously in size and complexity over time, perceives itself and *entrenches itself so deeply as to become all but undislodgeable will constitute a satisfactory answer (to.. what would make a loopy abstract pattern constitute a locus of interiority, an inner light, a site of first person experience.. where does **me ness come from.. for some.. and not for other..

*i think entrench here is closer to kill and/or at least cancerous distraction ness..

**to me.. only ‘me ness’ is the ongoing changing ness of me ness.. ie: the it is me et al.. find the bravery to change your mind et al.. at least in as much as we need ‘me ness’ for brown belonging law et al.. i guess i’d call it missing piece #1 – authentically being us.. by ie: not naming/labeling/entrenching/looping.. us

361 photo 2

what could ever make a mere physical pattern be me.. david chalmers nicknamed ‘the hard problem’.. seems just as far from having answer.. today as centuries ago..

outside mental health ? (not sure where or if.. but search on site for chalmers brings me here)

and to me.. not answerable.. answering ness as death ness

if ever a kind of magic.. strange loops that sneaked self consciousness inside the very fortress that was built to keep it out.. i can fancy for how animate, desire driven beings can arise from just plain matter.. and for among swarm of loops on planet.. there is one and only one that you call i and i call you..

but again.. in calling us ‘i’ et al.. are we not killing that unpredictability ness that makes us legit free/human

362 photo 3

you and i are mirages who *perceive themselves, and the sole magical machinery behind the scenes is perception.. the **triggering by huge flows of raw data.. .. of a tiny set of symbols that stand for abstract regularities in the world.. what would once have been brusquely labeled ‘mechanical’ and reflexively discarded as a candidate for conscious ness has to be reconsidered..

*maybe we need to quit doing that .. naming the colour ness et al.. am thinking legit free people would render it irrelevant

**smacks of maté trump law et al.. need – hari rat park law

we human beings are macroscopic structures in a universe whose laws reside at a microscopic level.. *as survival seeking beings.. **we are driven to see efficient explanations that make reference only to entities at our own level.. we therefore draw ***conceptual boundaries around entities that we easily perceive.. and in so doing we carve out what seems to us to be reality.. the ‘i’.. an ie of such perceived/invented reality.. and it ****does such a good job of explaining our behavior that it becomes the hub around which the rest of the world seems to rotate.. but this ‘i’ notion is just a shorthand for vast mass of seething and churning of which we are necessarily unaware..

*great ie of (to me) misunderstanding us.. to me.. not survival seeking if legit free.. too busy/preoccupied with.. the dance..

**whalespeak.. legit free humans not driven.. and esp not to 1\ efficiency and/or 2\ explanations..

***siddiqi border law et al

****yeah.. whalespeak perpetuating our prison/violence of sea world

on tingling after leg goes to sleep.. ‘this is what being alive really is.. getting rare glimpse of how complex i am’.. of corse we can never come close to experiencing the full tingling complexity of what we truly are.. ie: 6b trillion copies of the hemoglobin molecule.. each second.. 400 trill destroyed while anther 400 trill created.. *numbers like these are way beyond human comprehension..

*graeber violence/quantification law et al..

but even more profound/needed.. is that we don’t grok the changing ness of us.. rather than how much of us there is/isn’t.. the untouchable/explainable ness of us

but our own unfathomability is a lucky this for us.. just as we might shrivel up and die if we could truly grasp how minuscule we are in comparison to vast universe.. we might also explode in fear/shock if privy to unimaginably frantic goings on inside our bodies.. we live in a state of blessed ignorance.. but it is also a state of marvelous enlightenment .. for it involves floating in a universe of mid level categories of our own creation.. categories that function incredibly well as survival enhancers

if only.. we could let go of knowing ness.. et al..

need to let go of categorie ness.. any form of m\a\p

363 photo 4

in the end we self perceiving self invention locked in mriages are littel miracles of self reference.. our very nature is such as to prevent us from fully understanding its very nature.. poised midway between the unvisualizable cosmic vastness of curved space-time and the dubious shadowy flickerings of changed quanta, we human beings , more like rainbows and mirages that like raindrops or boulders, are unpredictable self writing poems.. vague, metaphorical, ambiguous and sometimes exceedingly beautiful..

if we could only live that.. ie: let go enough (of all the entrenchment) to see what legit free people are like..

i’m thinking.. always exceedingly beautiful

intellectness as cancerous distraction.. there’s a legit use of tech.. and we’re missing it

to see ourselves this way is probably not as comforting as believing ineffable other worldly wisps endowed w internal existence, but it has its compensation.. what one gives up on is *a childlike sense that things are exactly as they appear, and that our solid seeming.. marble like ‘i’ as the realist thing in the world; what one acquires is an appreciation of how tenuous we are at our cores, and how wildly **different we are from what we seem to be.. as kurt godel with his unexpected strange loops gave us a deeper/subtler vision of what maths is all about.. so the stranger loop characterization of our essences gives us a deeper/subtler vision of what it is to be human.. and to my mind.. the loss it worth the gain..

*perhaps they are in not yet scrambled ness.. (alison on not yet scrambled ness)

**because currently only see/are like whales in sea world

hari rat park law

we need a nother way for 8b people to live/detox leap to

findings:

1\ undisturbed ecosystem (common\ing) can happen

2\ if we create a way to ground the chaos of 8b legit free people