michel on web 3 ness
Cosmo-Local Commoning with Web3 – Michel Bauwens (P2P Foundation) – Michel Bauwens is the founder of P2P Foundation. In conversation with Matthew Monahan.
michel bauwens on web 3 ness via tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1986276005603123625]:
Still one of my best online conversations, if you only want to watch one, this is the best choice: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCkLHj6r7y8&t=3s]
notes/quotes from 1 hr 2025 video linked:
4 min – web 3 is creating a global/mutual coord infra.. phase 1: capacity to globally coord labor.. passion skills .. w econ around it . transform thru labor high aspiration.. web allows people to say.. oh i can do that.. reorg society around passionate work
7 min – phase 2: crypto .. financing that labor.. quadratic voting.. et al.. giving power of money to contributors..
8 min – people love common object they are constructing.. ie: commons.. what really got me.. sitting w climate denier, impact investor et al.. but they were talking peacefully, respectfully.. so what’s missing is millions of people doing underfunded work.. how to fund that.. web 3 can be vehicle for capital to be re invested in regen.. local/global..
10 min – history of regulation.. once we have capitalism commons are closed and nation state becomes vehicle for regulating the market.. worked until 80’s.. so reg/dereg swings.. in 80’s attempt at cyber coord w econ.. it fails.. but then chicago boys used this experience to create supply chains..
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22 min – shortcoming of web3.. i think there’s a role for digital nomads..
33 min – historical patterns and cultural agency
38: role of web 3 and future alliances.. web3 is part of these seed forms that we can see as the pre figurative formations of a new form of civ.. civ was a geographic arrangement.. ie: need to manage the water.. that creates civilization.. now creating translocal.. coords, network states, .. et al.. ie: 12 trans local nomadic tribes.. collab ing.. 20 events/cay for month.. jordan hall calls this the civium.. temp nomadic villages.. can still be local.. move around learn a ton of things in one month.. then go back to places..
jordan on civium project et al
42 min – i’m more cynical here.. i have these rules: 1\ slaves never win.. 2\ you can rule w/o legitimacy.. put those together.. change happens thru jurisdictional alliances.. bottom and top..
45 min – navigating the transitions.. what i see is left used to be peace movement.. now all are supporting wars in ukraine.. so i think peace movement have collapsed.. i think we’ll have to invent it.. you do war to win.. but i don’t see how you can win w nuclear weapons.. who’s going to win .. self destruction is guaranteed.. i wish i knew what to do about this.. but i think the only thing we can do is just build resilience..
or.. try something deep enough to get to the root of problem
egit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us..
ie: imagine if we listen to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)
the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness
[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]
there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance.. for (blank)’s sake..
ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition
otherwise we’ll keep perpetuating the same song.. the whac-a-mole-ing ness of sea world.. of not-us ness
53 min – i think now we’re in stage 4.. we’ve lost control of our own tech children.. but eventually i think we will wake up.. have to be optimistic because we need it.. being pessimistic doesn’t work..
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