marsh stigmergy law

A new system of governance or collaboration that does not follow a competitive hierarchical model will need to employ stigmergy in most of its action based system – heather marsh

hello stigmergy

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via michel bauwens tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1741762982642937945?s=20]:

Georgie BC: * How a Stigmergy of Actions Replaces Representation of Persons https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/How_a_Stigmergy_of_Actions_Replaces_Representation_of_Persons

notes/quotes from p2p wiki post:

Key thesis:

“*A new system of governance or collaboration that does not follow a competitive hierarchical model will need to employ stigmergy in most of its action based systems..t It is **neither reasonable nor desirable for individual thought and action to be subjugated to group consensus in matters which do not affect the group, and it is frankly impossible to accomplish complex tasks if every decision must be presented for approval; that is the biggest weakness of the hierarchical model. The incredible success of so many internet projects are the result of ***stigmergy, not cooperation,..t and it is stigmergy that will help us build quickly, efficiently and produce results far better than any of us can foresee at the outset.”

*ie: need means (nonjudgmental expo labeling) to undo hierarchical listening as global detox so we can org around legit needs

**rather.. in any matter.. public consensus always oppresses someone(s).. any form of democratic admin.. any form of m\a\p.. as cancerous distractions

***hello stigmergy


Text by Heather Marsh (Georgie BC):

“*Stigmergy is a mechanism of indirect coordination between agents or actions..t The principle is that the trace left in the environment by an action **stimulates the performance of a next action, by the same or a different agent. In that way, subsequent actions tend to reinforce and build on each other, leading to the ***spontaneous emergence of coherent, apparently systematic activity. Stigmergy is a form of self-organization. It produces complex, seemingly ****intelligent structures, *****without need for any planning, control, or even direct communication between the agents. – Wikipedia

*in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows

**i think for legit free people.. it would be more ‘dances with’.. otherwise.. to me.. not legit ***spontaneous ness

****to me.. intellectness as cancerous distraction to legit freedom

*****yeah .. that.. the dance.. lanier beyond words law et al

A personality based system can never allow for mass collaboration on a global scale without representation such as that seen in organizations like the United Nations. *If the world is to move away from representation and allow all voices to be heard, we need to find methods of collaboration which work with idea and action based systems..t Concentric user groups with epistemic communities and knowledge bridges may work for idea based systems; for action, stigmergy may be the best option.

*there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. to facil a legit global detox leap.. ie: imagine if we listen to itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us

Currently, the typical response to a situation which requires an action is to create a noun, in the form of a committee, commission, organization, corporation, ngo, government body, etc. Far too often, the action never appears at all as the focus is always on the organization and the personalities involved instead.

marsh label law et al

Most systems are now run by competitive organizations. Competition creates redundancy, is slow and wastes resources on idea protection, advertisement, and more. Competition also requires secrecy which blocks progress and auditing and causes lost opportunities and ideas. Patents and copyrights further limit speed and the potential for mass input of ideas. Collaboration between the people with the greatest expertise does not happen unless they are hired by the same project.

competitiveness as cancerous distraction

The negative aspects of cooperation and consensus

The alternative to competition has traditionally been cooperation. This is most effective only in groups of two to eight people. For groups larger than 25, cooperation is agonizingly slow, an exercise in personality management which quickly degenerates into endless discussion and soothing of ruffled feathers, is extremely vulnerable to agent provocateurs, and in large scale groups very seldom accomplishes anything of value. Cooperation traditionally operates on the democratic principle that all voices are equal, so it does not allow for leaders, or users with greater expertise, energy or understanding to have greater influence than those on the periphery. Cooperation wastes a great deal of time and resources in both discussing and discussing the discussions. In an action based system, this discussion is rarely required as the opinion of those not doing the work is probably of little value unless it is solicited advice from a trusted knowledgeable party.

cancerous distraction

Cooperation and consensus based systems are usually dominated by extroverted personalities who make decisions to control the work of others and are justly resented by those doing the actual work. Most workers do not enjoy a hierarchical system as shown in the chart below, as they lose autonomy, mastery and creative control over their own work; the feeling at the bottom is no different whether there is a horizontal or a hierarchical structure making the decisions. Cooperative systems frequently use consensus or votes to make decisions for the entire group; these methods may not produce the best results as many people may not understand the work if they are not actually doing it, and they may demand things they would never be willing to do themselves. Consensus based systems are also prone to the ‘hive mind’ appropriation of credit for individual ideas and labour which causes further resentment.

public consensus always oppresses someone(s).. any form of democratic admin.. any form of m\a\p.. as cancerous distractions

Stigmergy enables innovation

In the Stigmergy chart below, all workers have full autonomy to create *as they wish; the power of the user group is in the ability to accept or reject the work. Since there is no officially designated person to perform a task the users are free to create alternatives if they do not like what they are offered. Workers are free to create regardless of acceptance or rejection; in the chart below some work may be accepted by the largest group, some alternatives for a different user group, some only by a small group, and sometimes the worker will be alone with their vision. In all cases the worker is still free to create as they wish. History has shown no drastically innovative ideas that received instant mainstream acceptance and history also shows that radically new ideas are most often the result of solitary vision; to leave control of work to group consensus only is to cripple innovation.

*need global detox leap first.. because ie: wilde not-us law et al.. then needs to be itch-in-the-soul 1st thing.. everyday..

Stigmergy is neither competitive nor traditionally collaborative.

With stigmergy, an initial idea is freely given, and the project is driven by the idea, not by a personality or group of personalities. No individual needs permission (competitive) or consensus (cooperative) to propose an idea or initiate a project. There is no need to discuss or vote on the idea, if an idea is exciting or necessary it will attract interest. The interest attracted will be from people actively involved in the system and willing to put effort into carrying the project further, not empty votes from people with little interest or involvement. Since the project is supported or rejected based on contributed effort, not empty votes, input from people with more commitment to the idea will have greater weight. Stigmergy also puts individuals in control over their own work, they do not need group permission to tell them what system to work on or what part to contribute.

again.. imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness as nonjudgmental expo labeling)

The person with the initial idea may or may not carry the task further. Evangelizing the idea is voluntary, by a group that is excited by the idea; they may or may not be the ones to carry it out. It is unnecessary to seek start up funding and supporters; if an idea is good it will receive the support required. *(In practice, that is not true yet, as few people have the free time to put into volunteer projects because most are tied to compulsory work under the existing financial system. Additionally, we still live in a personality driven system where only powerful personalities are heard.) Secrecy and competition is unnecessary because once an idea is given, it and all new development belongs to anyone who chooses to work on it. Anyone can submit work for approval, the idea cannot die or be put on hold by personalities; acceptance or rejection is for the work contributed, not the person contributing it. All ideas are accepted or rejected based on the needs of the system.

*there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. to facil a legit global detox leap.. for (blank)’s sake.. and we’re missing it

legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of m\a\p

Stigmergy provides little scope for agent provocateurs as only the needs of the system are considered. Anyone working against the system’s functionality is much easier to see and prevent than someone blocking progress with endless discussion and creation of personality conflicts. Because the system is owned by all, there is also no one leader to target.” (http://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/stigmergy-2/)

rather.. gershenfeld something else law

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stream of consciousness:

good bye cycle

hello stigmergy

vulnerability in context

iterating detox

need means (nonjudgmental expo labeling) to undo hierarchical listening as global detox so we can org around legit needs

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laws\ish

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