m of care – apr 28
‘LIFELONG SELF-LEARNING AND MODERN EDUCATION,’ WITH KEITH HART @johnkeithhart
It (the lecture) summarises the philosophy of education that motivates Keith Hart’s new book, Self in the World: Connecting Life’s Extremes.
We all make two life journeys, one into the world, the other into the self. The two are often at odds, along with other pairs whose poles seem to be unreachable one from the other: individual and society, local and global, personal and impersonal, life and ideas, real and virtual, fact and fiction. My intended readers are the general public and students before they are channeled into blinkered specialisms. At the same time, I hope to appeal to some professional academics in the humanities, social disciplines and anthropology who are open to the approach I develop there.
only at odds in sea world
*The book argues that formal education at all levels must change. In the last century the universities committed to bureaucratizing capitalism and knowledge is boxed up in narrow compartments as a result. Self-learning is discouraged and students are expected to get their education for life before they are full adults. They are trained to be passive workers and consumers. Most academics cling to the residue of the last intellectual revolution (modernism) and cannot envisage the next one which will be built on interdisciplinary human sciences of nature, society and personality combined. **At present the natural scientists know nothing of human complexity and the rest have given up on understanding how the world works. I do not seek to replace formal education with self-learning, just at first to open up more space for their interaction. My message is: ***you are the most important agent of your own education and this is a lifelong process.
hari rat park law et al
***rather.. life is a lifelong process.. let go of ed/intellect/knowingness et al..
Keith Hart has posted 230 papers. He is professor of anthropology emeritus at Goldsmiths, University of London, now working full-time as a writer. He lives in Paris with his family and has a second home in Durban, South Africa. His professional work concerns the economy, especially money, informality and the digital revolution. Engaged intellectuals should focus on understanding the emergence of world society today. He has lived and worked in 24 countries and is currently writing a biography of Marcel Mauss (1872-1950), a French sociologist and teacher of ethnology whom he considers to be the founder of “human economy”, a term he has developed in the last two decades. Self in the World: Connecting Life’s Extremes was published in March 2022.
Keith Hart‘s lecture ‘Lifelong Self-learning and Modern Education’ inaugurates a series in an ongoing project, “Education and Anti-Institutions,” and will be moderated and in dialogue with Andris Brinkmanis and Steven Bachelor.
Keith Hart (born 1943 in Manchester, England) .. One personal obsession has been the relationship between movement and identity in the transition from national to world society. But his written work focuses on the apparent impasse between the national limits of politics and the fact that the economy is now global.
identity ness et al
imagine if we just focused on listening to the itch-in-8b-souls.. first thing.. everyday.. and used that data to augment our interconnectedness.. we might just get to a more antifragile, healthy, thriving world.. the ecosystem we keep longing for..
2\ if we create a way to ground the chaos of 8b legit free people
In 1993, Keith Hart and Anna Grimshaw started a small press called Prickly Pear. ..”We emulate the passionate amateurs of history who circulated new and radical ideas to as wide an audience as possible,” they said. “And we hope in the process to reinvent anthropology as a means of engaging with society.” .. In 2001, Prickly Paradigm established itself as a new incarnation of Prickly Pear, edited by Matthew Engelke, with Marshall Sahlins as publisher.
keith: was most important intellectual relationship.. my title.. self in the world.. connecting life’s extremes.. learning how we’re all divided/separated.. in process we never discuss what is the world.. i’m trying to reinvent something like the golden mean (nothing in excess).. i suggested we enter 2 journeys in our life.. world and self.. we lack much in way of ed for building our own version of how they’re connected..
k: my main argument is that being human isn’t written into our dna.. it’s something we have to become.. unequal society means we are alienated from world/selves.. we feel puny.. we’re not yet human.. individually or collectively.. we haven’t discovered the means to being human.. no one in all my reading who has given me as much as marx.. we live in society where money buys the machines and dominates people.. we need to reverse..our B uni ed makes it impossible for us to understand the world let alone belonging to it.. many people want to escape..
k: learning from the book is the point of the book.. for more than anyone else.. for me.. the point of ed.. how can we resist alienation.. there is a redemptive possibility.. i don’t think any even pose this question any more
k: people i’ve learned most from.. anti colonial intellectuals.. ghandi was the greatest.. they have to think of another world that is not racist/imperial.. and have to show and re ed selves.. concerned w helping people find their own place in the revolution.. anit colonial revolution was most important event in 20th cent.. we need to know where to look in order to learn.. who should we read and why.. people who actually did something..
?.. maybe that’s not what life is about..
k: what is modern ed: 1\ hose and bucket: forget who you are.. anything you know.. let us fill it w our hose.. point of ed is to keep people quiet.. the denial of self.. 2\ the banking system of school.. get ed before a grown up.. and that will do you as grown up.. kids brought up thinking in endless competition w people of their own age.. always going to be compared.. deadly race for survival
k: utopian to suggest that we should suggest to dispense w formal ed
k: i want to see how informal self learning can earn more space in formal spaces of ed.. that’s all i can aspire to.. to give them that space.. we don’t get enough space for informal/personal learning
k: various ways i’ve tried to do this.. 1\ improv lectures.. no human connection in lectures.. ie: girl in one improve lecture.. jumps up and says.. i get it.. instead of coping notes we have to listen to you and get what you’re saying.. it was brilliant
k: 18 yr old can’t connect w a dead book
k: 2\ read something you like.. history of life/reading is essential.. reading more creative than writing.. writers repeat themselves.. but reader brings diff interps.. and that’s how culture evolves..
k: 2 most important people in my life.. marx and mauss.. which they were for david also.. find something you can connect with
k: the digi revolution org’d by big tech.. universal medium.. collapse of time/space make it something we can participate in being more an agent than a consumer.. that’s the message i hope to communicate in my book
but.. here we’re lecturing.. et al..
andris: do you believe we can unlearn.. how can we get to this informal self learning.. can you realize it in the academic setting.. like the younger generations today
k: like rico and rousseau i believe that the adults are the problem.. not the children
ie: a nother way
k: i’ve been betting all my life.. betting on the horses.. since i was 12.. i spend most of my time staring at foreign exchange rate tables.. but i learn more about the world econ by risking my own econ than by anything i read..
oi.. yeah.. but learning about money.. in sea world
k: i never lecture on stuff i don’t like.. any negating.. life is too short.. why waste your time proving someone is a shithead..
[highschoolers ask how to create initiatives/communities to do this.. book readings et al]
k: social context is important.. but i’m sorry i have to disappoint you because they only hand out brains once.. that’s your best ed.. not about finding people to read with et al.. find people to convo/drink with in the wee hours of the morning.. if you say i need a class i have made to do this.. that means you downgrade.. kids learn from the playground.. than by those trying to turn them into citizens..
k: we can talk to anybody we like.. ask them.. ‘what do you think’.. et al.. daughter asking me how do i become a creative writer.. how do i get a group together to do that..
k: need to get rid of us (adults) first..
1 yr to be 5 ness et al
k: you’ve been bombarded by the idea when you were a baby that you are incompetent.. and that they only way to that is getting a phd.. via subversive ness et al.. you have to find your power and who you want to do it with
k: i was 50.. learned most.. via james.. he taught me by ie and not in any org’d way.. he used to tell me.. you have to follow your own nose.. this was the turning point of my life.. before then.. i couldn’t find anything in the world to connect with .. or who.. not based on rejecting formal political associations.. i’ve lived in 24 countries.. i’m a nomad.. i had this principle that if it doesn’t work here i’ll move on.. my nomadism was the means of being free.. met up w people like him.. but i always knew i was a loner.. i’ve got all these credentials.. but thru being w him for 3 yrs.. i was able to devise a path for myself..
nika: from interview 10 yrs ago.. you said ‘war in europe will last at least 30 yrs’.. could you comment on current info..
[more of question she put in chat: I wanted to ask an uncomfortable question about the war, which is a reference to our interview 10 years ago in Paris, where you said that there would be a war in Europe that would last at least 30 years.
At the time it seemed absolutely crazy and, to be honest, I had trouble publishing this interview at the time.
Now, unfortunately, it doesn’t seem so crazy anymore.
Can I ask you to comment on the current situation.]
k: what do you want me to comment about
nika: i had problem publishing interview because seemed insane.. but now so clear..
k: meeting james was turning point in my life.. but before that i was just a drone.. or a gambler.. hard to summarize.. the question isn’t focussed enough.. you want me to do a final riff about the revolution?.. message i’m trying to get across.. we need to be personal and engage.. but also have to have a framework of history.. i think putin’s era is the next phase of war and revolution.. i don’t think there’s any way out of it.. the last 40 yrs have been a waste.. i’ve been feeling for some time that ww3 will sort this out.. i think that is what’s happening now .. i’ve been thinking about the end of the world for 30 yrs.. you can’t just ask me a question about what i think about it.. it becomes very self indulgent.. maybe my talks always were.. we can’t just talk w/o historic framework.. we have to immerse ourselves in it and i have but i only did it after meeting (clr) james
oi.. to me.. all history ness non legit.. us looking at it is a negativism.. just as wasteful as trying to proof somebody bad.. et al
k: my fav thinker by a long shot is lenin.. you’ve got to go back to lenin.. nobody in his class that can help us think about how we’re going to deal w the war/revolutions coming up.. we need to place our struggle in an historic/political framework.. that’s what i’ve been trying to do
k: i want to play a part in this..
andris: what would be the positive dialectic of your proposal
k: go to marx.. positive dialectic emerges.. not possible for me to say the positive dialectic that will emerge from mess we’re in.. but task is to show how we got to this point.. and leave to other people to take it from there.. i’m 80.. so come on.. going into hospital for cancer next week.. the point is positive dialectics come out of the death of the previous dialectic.. up to you.. the youngers.. to immerse yourselves.. i spent 50 yrs as a scholar.. at 50 i discovered there was a politics to it
k: the game we’re in: i’m unknown.. someone will read me in 100 yrs and think it’s my ideas when it’s his.. and i will become famous
nika dubrovsky interviewing hart in 2012:
I just uploaded ‘Interview with Keith Hart on nationalism’ to @academia! https://t.co/FPRLWnj9xt
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/johnkeithhart/status/1518557538563891201
notes/quotes from doc:
The world’s problems are ecological and economic in ways that no national government can control. .t
We must never forget that most people like to keep what they have; only a few agitators would turn society upside down whenever possible. But then, for any number of reasons, the majority realise that they have lost or about to lose everything. Then they embrace radical change
We just need to keep on trying and eventually we will form structures that can respond adequately to the challenges that humanity faces today.. t