hooks & barlow

Cesar Hidalgo (@cesifoti) tweeted at 6:11 AM – 8 Feb 2018 :

Fantastic and insightful interview with John Perry Barlow https://t.co/pg3IkyP5am (http://twitter.com/cesifoti/status/961588219400871936?s=17)

from 1995

@bellhooks and @jpbarlow (rip)

hooks: The capacity to love is so tied to being able to be awake, to being able to move out of yourself and be with someone else in a manner that is not about your desire to possess them, but to be with them, to be in union and communion.

soul mate ness

hooks: I have been thinking about the notion of perfect love as being without fear, and what that means for us in a world that’s becoming increasingly xenophobic, tortured by fundamentalism and nationalism. ..When we drop fear, we can draw nearer to people, we can draw nearer to the earth, we can draw nearer to all the heavenly creatures that surround us.

no fear

barlow:  What I’m hopeful about is that because cyberspace is an interactive medium in a human sense, .. We’ll be able to experience one other genuinely, in a truly interactive fashion, at a distance.

beyond words et al

hooks: One of the things I think about is what it means to be communicating when you’re not aware of the specifics of who people are..t..  You can’t respond to their looks, which are so central to the mechanisms of domination in our society. We judge on the basis of what somebody looks like, skin color, whether we think they’re beautiful or not. That space on the Internet allows you to converse with somebody with none of those things involved.

barlow: It’s not that there’s anything particularly healthy about cyberspace in itself, but the way in which cyberspace breaks down barriers. Cyberspace makes person-to-person interaction much more likely in an already fragmented society. The thing that people need desperately is random encounter. That’s what community has.

barlow: I think an enlightened mind would be able to experience the vividness that novelty brings, even in things that are not novel. ..I keep thinking about the modern plague of boredom, which, ironically, is connected to the general social desire to make everything as familiar as possible, to turn everything into McDonald’s land or television land. And at the same time people are expressing a feeling of crushing ennui. I remember one of the few truly Buddhist things that my very non-Buddhist Wyoming mother said to me when I was little. I’d complain about being bored and she’d say, “Anyone who’s bored isn’t paying close enough attention.

ie: blinded by the shiny.. the status quo.. the norms.. we’ve built up around us to make us feel safe.. when perhaps.. safety comes in uncertainty.. ie: gershenfeld sel to get us to antifragility

hooks: a lesson in imagination, because she was always urging us to think of the imagination as that which allows you to crack through that space of ennui and get back going.. t

thinking of Dave Gray‘s (because same day he’s having convo on fb of how to measure innovation).. breaking the status quo (‘when you’re on autopilot.. you can’t be in the moment’..and ‘liminal thinking is a way of navigating change by opening the door to ambiguity and uncertainty..’ in his liminal thinking).. so .. perhaps measure of innovation.. is if the people are truly free.. and measure if the people are truly free.. is if they/we are embracing uncertainty.. (so to his comments on measuring lessens uncertainty.. maybe that’s very much the problem w measuring.. it lessens things we need most)

so.. maybe.. if you must measure.. measure the liminality/entropy/uncertainty..

(distinction matters too if you’re talking innovation in business.. or innovation for humanity/life)

barlow: I believed the dominant religion of this culture, which is science. And in science, only hypotheses whose results can be reproduced and observed are credible. Obviously when we talk about the spirit we have to talk about matters of faith, and when we talk about matters of faith, the lack of reproducibility is critical.

hooks: When we think about the history of science, so much of it is rooted in this quest to find answers that will silence fear..t

barlow: And what has happened? We now have a society that is absolutely sick with fear..t This is the most fearful place on the planet. It’s the place where science is dominant to the exclusion of all other religions. So it hasn’t been a very good answer so far. We take very little solace in our science.

hooks:  I think that’s why I’ve always been drawn to engaged Buddhism and to Thich Nhat Hanh, because there’s so much emphasis on the dailyness of life and doing what you do with a certain quality of mindfulness and stillness. You don’t have to have an agenda when you wake up in the morning, because waking up in the morning is what you’re doing.

no agenda.. as the day..

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

hooks: One path that leads so many people to eastern thought is that longing to find a space where forgiving is sanctioned, and forgiveness can’t happen if you’re not allowed to believe in the power of giving. I think that the whole realm of capitalism is stifling in us the capacity to experience the gift, and the fundamental gift which we’ve been talking about is the gift of life, the breath.

gift.. as in no obligation to reciprocate..  no strings..  perfect/unconditional love

marsh exchange law

barlow: The problem with capitalism is that it’s based on physics and not biology. It’s based on *entropy and not the fundamental reality of life, which creates new complexity and new order and higher states of energy all the time. Look how much value comes into the world out of absolutely nothing in the realm of information. The process of evolution is not one of entropy at all, but so much of the economy is about that extropic process.

what if entropy is part of the fundamental reality of life..? and we’re missing it.. (capitalism seems more based on fear – lack of connection)

3 min – (old school defn) entropy measures the disorder of the energy of a collection of particles

word disorder can be very subjective…

hooks:  In journeying from place to place I’ve come to see how little I need ..to be alive in the world.

affluence w/o abundance


r(or convo)ip



How John Perry Barlow @JPBarlow Said He Would Like to Be Remembered 

https://t.co/8FS2uaSG6f https://t.co/NPGKux5LQs

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/lisarein/status/962037769831788545

as it could be

mech to facil 2 convos .. as the day..