tiberius on econ org

via michel bauwens tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1949022531211681943]:

This is a must-read, and a powerful vision for a higher form of economic and societal coordination, put forward by

@TiberiusB and associates.

* Why Blockchain and DAOs Fall Short for Complex Economic Organizations, and How Open Value Networks Point the Way Forward:

https://sensoricablog.blogspot.com/2025/07/beyond-ledger-why-blockchain-and-daos.html

“We are witnessing a profound transformation in the architecture of global economic activity. The traditional capitalist system, rooted in firm hierarchies, proprietary assets, and market-based transactions, is giving way to a networked economy. This emergent configuration is typified by commons-based peer production (CBPP), open source collaboration, distributed knowledge networks, and peer-to-peer (p2p) collaboration. Examples abound: permissionless blockchains, distributed scientific research initiatives, decentralized media platforms, and open educational resources.

In parallel, the digital infrastructures enabling these formations are evolving. Initially celebrated as a breakthrough in decentralized coordination, blockchain technologies and Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs) are revealing inherent limitations when tasked with modeling complex economic processes and sustaining full-fledged economic organizations.

In contrast, newer agent-centric approaches—such as

* the Open Value Network (OVN) model built on * Resource-Event-Agent (REA) accounting, the * Valueflows vocabulary, * hREA logic, and * Holochain as a distributed substrate

—are showing greater promise.”

This blog post draws from the experience of real-world p2p production networks such as Sensorica, and analyzes the foundational limitations of blockchain/DAO-based systems while advocating for a post-blockchain architecture of economic coordination.”

cc @nunet_global

notes/quotes from linked (july 2025) post:

Beyond the Ledger: Why Blockchain and DAOs Fall Short for Complex Economic Organizations, and How OVNs Point the Way Forward

Synthesized with AI from documents developed by Tiberius Brastaviceanu, with the help of Sacha Pignot

The OVN Alternative: A Better Model for Complex Economic Organizations

The OVN model, in contrast (to blockchain iand daos), emerges from a different epistemology. It begins with a high-level computational model—inspired by relational, agent-based, and process-centric modeling paradigms. According to the computational model taxonomy, blockchain-based systems score low in agency, adaptivity, composability, and reflexivity, while the Valueflows + hREA + Holochain stack achieves high scores across all of these dimensions.

1. Economic Grammar Based on REA (Resources, Events, Agents)

Rather than model transactions, the REA ontology models the economic processes involved in the generation and transformation of valuables:

  • Resources: Tangible and intangible inputs/outputs.
  • Events: Actions that change the state or availability of resources.
  • Agents: Participants that perform or are affected by events.

This triad allows us to *describe flows of contributions, transformations, dependencies, and engagement in economic processes in a way that is semantically rich and **computation-friendly.

*strike 1 (aka: red flag)

**strike 2

2. Valueflows: A Shared Vocabulary for Distributed Economic Activity

Valueflows is an open vocabulary that extends REA for networked, post-market economies. It enables:

  • Semantic interoperability: Different agents and systems can coordinate using a *shared language.
  • Contribution accounting: **Track who did what, how, and in what context.
  • Workflow modeling: Represent ***plans, intents, offers, and actual events.

*strike 3

**strike 4

***strike 5

Importantly, Sensorica works with a triadic model of value, inspired by Peirce’s semiotic triangle. In this view, value is not a property or substance but a relation among:

  • A valuable (a material or immaterial reality),
  • A *token (which can be money or any symbol representing the valuable),
  • A **valuation, which is partly subjective and partly inter-subjective, mediated by social and cultural processes.

*strike 6 and *7

This model supports non-monetary *forms of exchange, such as barter, mutual credit, or symbolic recognition, and can also extend to non-human living systems.

*strike 8

3. hREA: Economic Logic Engine

hREA is a modular implementation of Valueflows. It handles:

  • Economic event *validation
  • **Consistency of process flows
  • Resource ***tracking and provenance

*strike 9 **10 and ***11

It enables agents to run autonomous, interoperable, and *accountable economic **logic locally—without requiring consensus from a global ledger.

*strike 12 & **13

4. Holochain: Agent-Centric, Contextual, and Scalable

Unlike blockchain, Holochain:

  • Is agent-centric: Each participant maintains their own source chain.
  • Supports local validation: Data is *validated within shared contexts.
  • Avoids global consensus: There’s no single state to agree upon.
  • Enables fine-grained privacy and contextual **governance.

*strike 14 & **15

This makes it ideal for heterarchical, fluid, and evolving networks of contributors, such as those found in CBPP or global p2p design networks.

In computational terms, Holochain systems are closer to distributed multi-agent systems with reflexivity, learning, and local memory, akin to high-level adaptive stigmergic environments. This makes them inherently more suited to modeling *real-world economic ecosystems.

*everything to date is (has been ) sea world econ.. we have no idea what legit ‘econ ecosystems’ could be

ie: oikos (the economy our souls crave).. ‘i should say: the house shelters day-dreaming, the house protects the dreamer, the house allows one to dream in peace.’ – gaston bachelard, the poetics of space

Sensorica: A Case in Point

Sensorica is a pioneer OVN experimenting with open hardware, *contribution accounting, and stigmergic coordination. It:

*strike 16.. and to me this is not legit stigmergy ness..

  • Tracks contributions across roles (engineering, documentation, outreach)
  • Attributes valuations to contributions through social processes
  • Allocates shares of generated income based on these valuations
  • Coordinates distributed contributors asynchronously

strike strike strike

Sensorica is currently transitioning from a Web2 REA-based infrastructure to a native p2p economic network built on Valueflows, hREA, and Holochain. This shift is intended to enable greater scale, autonomy, and context-awareness.

‘shift’ we need: nonjudgmental expo labeling

This kind of accounting and coordination cannot be achieved using smart contracts or DAOs without major workarounds or reliance on centralized, off-chain infrastructure.

legit free/alive humans can’t be ‘coordinated’.. and esp not if still accountable ing

so…. will never get to the root of problem

legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do

how we gather in a space is huge.. need to try spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove to facil curiosity over decision making.. because the finite set of choices of decision making is unmooring us.. keeping us from us..

ie: imagine if we listen to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)

the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness

[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]

there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance.. for (blank)’s sake..

ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition

Conclusion: Toward a Post-Market, Networked Economy

Blockchain and DAOs were necessary steps in the decentralization of economic infrastructure. But their computational models are too limited to support the full complexity of economic life. As we transition from a market-based economy to a networked, peer-driven economy, we need:

oooof .. the transition we need (if we want life over survival ness et al): a sabbatical ish transition

  • Richer representations of production
  • Fluid, role-based coordination
  • Context-aware decision-making
  • Interoperable semantic infrastructures

strike x 4

Open Value Networks, built on REA + Valueflows + hREA + Holochain, offer a *realistic and field-tested path forward. They model economic processes, not just transactions or governance. They reflect the network logic of contemporary collaboration and can sustain resilient, open, and adaptive institutions.

*not legit ‘real’ (rather just more sea world ness) if field tested.. et al

For economists interested in designing the next generation of economic infrastructure, it’s time to look beyond the ledger..t

rather.. it’s time to look beyond  any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do

mufleh humanity law.. et al

again.. there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance.. for (blank)’s sake..

ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition

too many strikes (aka: red flags) michel/tiberius.. to get to a legit diff coord/org.. not high/deep enough to get to root of problem.. so will most likely seem better.. but will perpetuate same song..

again.. legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do

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michel refers to tiberius in george and michel ai convo

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