seeing with hands

from amazon page linked to image and via jinan in email:

Seeing with Hands is a result of a unique experiment and extensive research by the author Jinan K B and his Foundation. It is based on research on how children learn the real world through the process of drawing. This is in continuation of his exploration of how children create knowledge which he has been pursuing for more than 3 decades. This book challenges our notion of drawing. It redefines drawing and establishes drawing as means to observe and make sense of the real world. It also establishes the necessity of understanding drawing in continuation with children’s actual experiences, the kind of toys and play they create to revisit these experiences. This book is bound to lead to a new way of being with children, respecting their autonomy and their innate ability to develop their cognitive system. This will enable adults- parents, teachers, and all involved in education– to reflect ABOUT THE AUTHOR Jinan K. B. Jinan believes, the cognitive right as the most fundamental right which modernity-society and school-brutally takes away right from childhood. He considers himself to be someone who was able to recover from the damage of schooling and modernity when he got an opportunity to be with indigenous people. His experience with the illiterate artisans helped him to understand the process of creation of life-sustaining knowledge, its holistic nature and also how children learn autonomously. He is engaged in an ongoing research on the true nature of learning-why, what and how. He has been working on natural learning, children and cognitive damages inflicted by Modernity and Modern Schooling for almost three decades now. Currently, Jinan is involved in enabling people to explore and experientially recover their natural cognitive system damaged by schooling. He aims to sensitize adults to provide a truly conducive environment for their children. He has co-founded Existential Knowledge Foundation, Thanima, Being Academy, and *Initiating Inquiry.

to me – red flags

*to me.. need to be listening to inquiry (aka: itch-in-the-soul ness)

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not sure how first intro’d to jinan.. but have been getting emails from him over the years.. jun 2023 got one as invite to zoom launch of seeing with hands – parts of its description very resonating – but too – parts still embedded in supposed to’s of school/work ness (guessing this is why i haven’t added anything on him before)..

email:

This book came about from an unusual experiment in understanding decolonization, deschooling, de-conditioning, and learning from illiterate communities. Living with illiterate communities made me realize some *crucial aspects of knowledge creation, the content of knowledge, and the context and conditions.

*to me.. not what legit free people would be about.. so still cancerous distraction

Literates learn the  WORD whereas illiterates learn the WORLD.

yeah to lit & num as colonialism et al.. but don’t think life (outside sea world.. aka: via legit free people) .. is about learning

We are made to ANALYZE secondhand information whereas they CREATE KNOWLEDGE of their contexts.

1\ again .. don’t think living alive ness is about creating knowledge

2\ context today has been sea world.. so not only implying response ness.. but response ness to cancerous distractions.. to me.. need 1st/most: means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature so we can org around legit needs

imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness as nonjudgmental expo labeling)

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This book came about from an experiment called reimagining schools conducted in the outskirts of Pune from 2011 to 2014. There was no teaching whatsoever and children had conditions to do what they would do naturally. We documented all their activities and in that process, we also documented their drawings.  We were astonished to see the connection between what children experience, what they ply, and what they draw, clearly showing similarity between various other developmental processes like crawling to walking, blabbering to speaking, etc.

*to me.. any form of m\a\p is a teaching ness.. and if documenting.. observing.. esp observing how people/children are responding to sea world.. just more cancerous distractions

It was by sheer accident that I stumbled upon the idea that children might be *using drawing to understand the real world in terms of two-dimensional space.”

*to me.. cope\ing of still being in sea world (being observed et al.. a raised eyebrow et al).. rather than how rheingold (mom) art law explains art as convo w self..

This is a book on seeing- how children use drawing to observe the world. The book is to initiate seeing- an invitation to become an enquirer- to be like children, to observe, to touch, to feel, to sense… and more importantly, to let understanding take place.

again.. to me.. not yet scrambled would/might do/be art.. to listen to heart..

So, the invitation is to read the book without any forced agreement but to rediscover what children do when they have the freedom to draw and when they are not confused with our notions about art, self-expression, skill, etc.

yeah..i think we’ve still (to date) been confusing them/us about all the things..

This was evidenced by three years of children’s drawings done with *absolutely no adult interference, whatsoever – neither to correct or praise. Naturally drawing became an activity that every child did to **enhance their observation rather than to make artistic, skilled drawings.

**this is an ie of *that .. adult interference.. it’s a forming of correcting/praising et al.. their abilities in observing.. when to me.. legit free people not so much about observing the dance.. rather about being the dance..

‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows

This book is bound to lead to a *new way of being with children, respecting their autonomy and their innate ability to develop their cognitive systems. This has the potential to enable adults- parents, teachers, educationists, cognitive scientists, and psychologists – to reflect on their own schooling process and the way knowledge gets created naturally.

*to me.. perhaps diff degree of same song.. but not new.. because assuming it’s about them develop cog abilities .. about knowledge .. et al.. oi

So, this book *totally challenges the modern paradigm of education which denies our most fundamental right which is the COGNTIVE RIGHT, THE RIGHT TO BE.

*not totally.. if still talking cog.. if still talking rights.. if any form of m\a\p

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googling found this 28 min video of him talking about the book – Book Launch: ‘Seeing with Hands’ by Jinan K.B. | BluOne Ink – [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yuZy07wSYM]:

2 min – things are there.. but you don’t see because your eyes are already framed by modern world view to see the world in a certain way

3 min – misunderstood learning.. illiterate communities.. don’t read and create knowledge.. showed me how to esp learning and how knowledge gets created.. went deeper into .. how do you create knowledge at all.. illit children uses senses to understand the world.. this is basic background of my work started in 1991

to me.. legit free people would see ‘creating knowledge‘ ness as irrelevant.. rather.. would just keep swimming in not yet scrambled ness

graeber can’t know law.. david on beyond power/knowledge.. taleb knowledge law.. paul know\love law.. et al

4 min – something wrong w modern man and not illit communities.. ie: women completely moving around.. opened my eyes..

5 min – knowledge creation is something that every living being is doing.. all living beings have cognitive beings.. making sense of world and living harmoniously to sustain life.. that’s the bottom line.. and human beings are also doing that

yeah.. not to me.. to me.. more about ue ness than making sense and sustaining ness..

6 min – ed/modern crisis.. misunderstanding of knowledge and cog rights.. only believe what others are telling us

oi .. rights ness and rights ness about cog ness..

so can use drawing as a temp means.. not suggesting every child should start drawing.. look at drawing as activity human beings did.. done by very few people.. people meant to draw/perform.. so few did it.. but we are misunderstanding that everybody used to draw..

7 min – 2011.. had opp to look at school as where children have place to understand world autonomously.. no teaching.. so children were completely free.. so in school able to *respond very spontaneously with things..

*red flag – responding ness

8 min – so in the 3 yrs they started doing spontaneously what they were supposed to do w life.. creating houses.. all kinds of things.. meanwhile they were also drawing.. but i didn’t spend time *observing what they were drawing because my interest was to observe what they were making..

*red flag – observing ness

but after 3 yrs when looked at all drawings.. i saw a very interesting pattern emerging.. *showed drawing is cog process to understand the world.. correlation between experience play plus toy making.. and drawing..

*rather rheingold art law.. to me.. not about understanding world.. but about grokking your/the dance

9 min – what i saw was that children are completely free

to me.. to date.. none of us.. even children.. not legit/completely free.. not until we all get out of sea world

fundamental shift.. indigenous never said free.. children didn’t have to ask permission.. that’s why didn’t have mental disease et al.. because absolutely free in real sense..

yeah better.. but even indigenous not legit free..

10 min – only after printing press and reading.. that people had 2d space.. if children exposed to 2d.. rewire brain to understand new 2d space.. and drawing helps them do that.. children need total autonomy to 1\ draw and 2\ recreate world.. drawing important to connect 2d and 3d..

12 min – all children born w capacity to be the world.. not to know the world but to be the world..

ok.. agree .. but full stop there.. need to let go of knowing ness

13 min – that being is happening when children have full autonomy and engaging w world around them.. w true life.. not reading/writing.. but true nature is what they should be engaging with.. that will awaken their own lives and they will become part of life..

yeah.. see.. that can’t happen till we all get out of sea world..

to date.. just responding to (and coping with) the cancerous distractions of sea world..

hari rat park law et al

then too.. the red flags of should ness and engaging ness.. which is to me.. evidence that we’re not fully trusting that they are (that legit free people would be) born w capacity for being

13 min – that is fundamental issue destroyed in school.. everything has to do w self and skill.. then only skilled people become artists.. rest made to believe don’t like art.. because focus is on skill.. *but if children on own.. their focus will be on what they are observing.. and not what they are drawing

again.. if still focus of observing.. and esp observing/responding/engaging in sea world.. not legit free.. not legit leaving them alone.. oi

i don’t think legit free people would spend days observing (too much to do w judgement et al).. rather just being.. .. and to me this is why we need ai as nonjudgmental expo labeling.. as means for global detox/reset

14 min – so fi you don’t make any judgements wether the growing is right/good etc.. children will naturally focus on observation and the real world and growing just as a means to understand the real world

oi.. that’s making judgement/assumption already.. and if adults are thinking it.. kids are hearing it.. a raised eyebrow et al

15 min – art ed is destroying both art and ed..

yeah.. so let go man.. let go of any form of m\a\p

21 min – of course we have to look at ed.. why is it we’re producing humans who are anti life.. humans that are fragmented

oi.. deeper.. why do we think we should be producing humans?

let go

22 min – these are fundamental questions we should ask and then look at what ed does.. that destroys people… asking those questions destroys people..

23 min – i think seeing with hands .. if read properly.. is for everyone who is encountered modern human crisis.. people trying to understand

oh my.. oh my.. oh my.. earlier said he had to stop reading to understand.. but need to read his book properly..

23 min – it’s for seeing why children draw at all..

we need to let go of why ness.. we need to let go of thinking we have to know things.. oi

graeber can’t know law et al

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his site: [https://kbjinan.in/]:

De academizing knowledge.. De institutionalizing learning

this is why haven’t added him before.. (to me) going to edge.. but not letting go enough.. (to me) .. if still talking knowledge and learning.. not about legit free people.. (we have no idea what legit free people are like)

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