michel on tokens ness
michel bauwens on tokens ness
have it on his page.. but adding this page via michel tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/2102066805464310031?s=20]:
(not all tokens are meant for market exchange, there are non-market tokens)
to me (warning ness).. perhaps ‘non-market’.. but still not humane.. not about legit free people.. not about the dance.. not that gets past ie: mufleh humanity law et al.. ie: 10-day-care-center\ness; graeber violence/quantification law; jain naming the colour law; et al..
A concept you should know about:
* Current-Sees,
Reacting to our latest substack article, Gamily Life writes:
(https://4thgenerationcivilization.substack.com/p/towards-a-society-protocol-from-the/
[links to michels sept 2026 substack: Towards a ‘Society Protocol’: From the very first Open Commons Day in Belgium, to the network of phygital Ecovillages in the Ukraine which includes his voc – michel bauwens – cosmo localism and voc – silvia brandi – international fablab network and voc – samuel delesque & luna mangan – traditional dream factory and voc – maksym zalevskyi – web 3 in ukraine – ecovillage and et al from valley of the commons]
A potpourri of three important commons initiatives on the European continent, and one that is potentially interplanetary.
“Any tokenization is by all means a market approach. There is no market without tokens. It’s like fighting fire with fire. For me any movement, idea, concept should be first and foremost open to debate and critique. If it neglects that and simply aims for expansion it’s 100% faux.”
Our answer:
There is no market without tokens, but there can be plenty of tokens that are not meant for market exchange.
to me.. again warning ness.. token ness .. any form of tit for tat ness.. any form of m\a\p is same song as market ness.. all cancerous distractions to the dance
The basics:
There can be tokens without markets. The statement that “any tokenization is by all means a market approach” conflates two distinct concepts: tokens as symbolic systems for tracking and coordinating value flows, and markets as specific institutional arrangements for exchange.
to me.. if you go deep enough (ie: on the ground ness deep dive) those are same song .. this is why we need tech w/o judgment
ie: the dance won’t dance unless/until it’s 1\ all of us 2\ legit free
nothing to date (ever since that day) has gotten to that root of problem
legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
The Holochain project, and specifically the concept of “current-sees” developed by its founders, provides a robust counterexample.
holochain ness et al
* What Are “Current-Sees“?
the sees part alone makes it (to me) a cancerous distraction.. ie: naming the colour ness et al.. blinds us and kills the thing we’re ‘seeing’
The term “current-see” is a deliberate play on the word “currency.” It was coined by Arthur Brock, a lead visionary behind Holochain, through his earlier Metacurrency Project.
arthur brock.. metacurrency project.. et al
The core idea is that currencies are not fundamentally about money. As Brock puts it, “Currencies are not just about money. That’s like a fingernail on the animal of currencies”. Instead, a current-see is any symbolic system that makes flows of value visible, shapes them, and helps to organize them—whether those flows are tangible (goods, services) or intangible (care, reputation, contributions). The purpose is to “see” and “shape” the current of value in a system, not necessarily to price it for market exchange.”
cancerous distraction.. same song
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