voc – adam arvidsson – industrious modernity

valley of the commons – day 3 – 8.26.26 – adam arvidsson

via tweet [https://x.com/VotC2026/status/2092543243883835554?s=20]:

Day 3 is live now with a keynote by Adam Arvidsson A keynote on Industrious Modernity, exploring the relationship between capitalism and commons-based peer production. Tune in now with @ethswarm

https://streamoverswarm.eth.limo/#/watch/video/6F2728386F8a47ef5EBe323721188e630Ff0FdE9/e79a02c8-edd0-4963-a8ff-da485aaffadf

appears that livestream happens here.. ie: todays was 4 hrs long.. then commons hub youtube channel shortens to just keynote person w q&a.. rather.. appears all have gone to commons hub youtube channel except adam’s..

so will try to take notes from swarm’s 100+ min video:

The speaker is Adam Arvidsson, talk is about “Industrious Modernity”

Adam Arvidsson is Professor of Sociology of Cultural and Communicative Processes at the Università Federico II di Napoli. His research explores emerging forms of cooperation enabled by digital media and their economic and political potential, with a particular focus on the evolving relationship between capitalism and the commons.

36 min – still talking history ness et al ie: plantation first ie of extractive marxism

63 min – part 2 on capitalism history

96 min – need to have fundamental change.. in order to realize full value of production.. change into something that can generate common prosperity, jobs, money for charity.. there needs to be a fundamental translation in the nature of production..

98 min – something sustainable needs to be based on 2 premises: 1\ system that can provide surplus pop with enough resources to guarantee reproduction.. contract to guaranteed income 2\ reflection of full cost of production process w/in price system of econ.. the 2 fundamental things for any type of econ based on internalization of reproduction

oi

no change.. same song.. till we try something legit diff

findings from on the ground ness deep dive on why we need tech w/o judgment

ie: the dance won’t dance unless/until it’s 1\ all of us 2\ legit free

nothing to date (ever since that day) has gotten to that root of problem

legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuringaccountingpeople telling other people what to do

the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness – has nothing to do with any form of m\a\p

[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]

there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance

ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition

otherwise we’ll keep perpetuating the same song.. the whac-a-mole-ing ness of sea world.. of not-us ness.. of part\ial ness..  perpetuating survival triage.. for (blank)’s sake..

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via tweet [https://x.com/VotC2026/status/2092595567998153185?s=20]:

reflective open discussion is starting now https://streamoverswarm.eth.limo/#/watch/video/6F2728386F8a47ef5EBe323721188e630Ff0FdE9/0df18d95-6f50-4f3c-9e67-fa82f5cd9817

4 min – michel – if desire is more ness

tried to listen in.. but kept going in/out – logged in w just username.. might have commented.. but couldn’t stay connected long enough.. oi

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