Brilliant man. People who read, research and follow the studies on the cutting edge know intuitively that what he talks about is true. It is being proven with each passing day that we are only scratching the surface of what we understand. It is only human arrogance which denies that. Thanks for posting!

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fb share by charles eisenstein – the crisis of science:

This podcast is a recording of a second conversation between me and Rupert Sheldrake, one of my favorite renegade scientists and the number one target of the defenders of scientific orthodoxy. He hardly needs any introduction, but I’ll say he is prolific author and researcher with a Ph.D. in Biochemistry from Cambridge University. As you will see, it is rather hard to dismiss him as a New Age airhead. I see him as an elder or a pioneer in the liberating of science from its metaphysical dogmas of reductionism and mechanistic materialism, and a true practitioner of the Scientific Method in its original humble spirit. I hope you’ll enjoy the intellect and refinement of this man as much as I did.

https://newandancientstory.net/podcasts/in-conversation-with-rupert-sheldrake/

6 min – once you can reduce to a set of data.. ie: this is what love is.. that was the ambition to expand the realm of quantity.. charles..

20 min – what if what’s fundamental is communication.. and ways to do it we don’t know about.. charles..

38 min – on meditation.. suspected to be w/in self.. but really beyond self.. sam harris’ waking up..

40 min – parallel in psychedelics..

42 min – slicing up brain waste of money.. i think studying consciousness will give  us more… minds more extensive and connected w/other beings.. – sheldrake

49 min – fits in with other realms of human interaction.. ie: dominate econ system.. when surrounded by commodities and standardized things.. much easier to believe.. we live in world of inanimate building blocks.. when everything rendered the same.. seems much more reasonable.. – charles

51 min – individualism plus alienation from nature.. – sheldrake

52 min – fixing tooth decay.. when realize each part (of body) is alive.. tooth, eye.. is alive.. and any condition of one part mirrors condition of whole.. not just universe but human body.. then modern medicine seems quite primitive.. not throwing out.. ie: emergency meds.. but.. – charles..

54 min  – i was saved thru emergency med so i feel grateful for it. if going to have truly sci approach.. we would look at all these other things.. if i ran med research system in britain.. not like now.. where 99.9% funding goes to mechanistic mellecular type research.. .. i’d run it where we actually look at what works.. sci method .. stat eval.. ie: if lower back pain.. some to reg dr.. some to acupuncture.. et al.. just find out what works.. – sheldrake

whoa.. cancer and math and forbidding cures ness..

that would be beautiful first step.. then realize.. that diagnostic categories using to measure results themselves influence results.. – charles

55 min – then they’d say.. these non conventional doing it through placebo effect.. – again. . things shifting.. i read nature every week.. most grown up intelligent forum right now.. just a few weeks ago.. on evidence based med.. saying.. we now realize placebo effect plays major part even in conventional med dismissing alt/complementary therapies by saying placebo effect is not evidence based med.. we have to look at newer understanding of placebo effect.. ie: rituals, expectations… any evidence based med has to take these into account.. right now.. evidence based med based on papers/publications..which we know are biased.. drug co’s don’t publish neg results.. and many alt’s don’t have funding..- sheldrake..

57 min – this is really encouraging.. that something that thoughtful in nature..what was once career suicide is not acceptable.. encouraging – charles

58 min – more and more things i’ve been saying are becoming mainstream.. not because i’ve been arguing.. many haven’t read anything from me.. it’s the many ingredients in it.. ie: as soon as start studying consciousness as scientific.. narrow materialism.. ie: brain scans, synaptic connections.. are just part not whole thing.. more and more people forced to look at cheaper alts.. so for econ reasons people are waking up.. sci as hard facts.. we know truth.. dogmatic.. coming undone.. temple of science crumbling.. so a new mood of humility.. a possibility for sciences being part of solution rather than part of problem..- sheldrake

h   u   g   e..

shift in consciousness now erupting w/in citadel of what had been the enemy ie: military/banking.. people starting to speak it outloud – charles

1:02 – happening mostly behind the scenes.. lots getting in touch with me.. and i suggest.. talk to them in evening.. after hours.. things changing w/in institutions.. come out of closet and talk to colleagues.. don’t do it in formal seminar.. but privately.. if i were a social activist.. i’d start a series of consciousness clubs.. informal gatherings ..on campus..assuming many colleagues will be interested..but none will admit to this in the lab room.. their spaces of materialism.. happening through people talking informally..- sheldrake

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in Daniel Pinchbeck‘s how soon is now:

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the interesting thing about social behaviour is that it is extremely contagious. people tend to do wha their peers do.. and they can switch their beliefs and habits quickly, even immediately, when the reward structure changes around them. malcolm gladwell called this the tipping point.

malcolm

the maverick scientist rupert sheldrake proposes a more sophisticated mode, based on something he calls *morphic resonance or the hundredth monkey principle..  his idea is that when a certain small percentage of a species learns a new skill that ability becomes easier to transfer to others and **can even transfer instantly w/o direct contact, thru some unknown mech, perhaps quantum nonlocality.. pattern of thought and action may ***create new field of resonant potential that can become species-wide traits

rupert

*100th monkey

**let’s use short bp as small % to transfer.. rather .. to leap

or perhpas.. just ***uncover what was already on each heart..

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when you or i make a change in our behaviour, this *affects and impacts upon the people around us directly and then the people around them, adding up to many more people. according t the morphic resonance theory, it may not be as difficult to effect large scale change as we tend to think it is – particularly now, when we are so **tightly linked togetherthru networks.. behaviour can change in a millisecond

*graeber model law.. w/in **pi degrees ness.. (not to mention again.. the vision is already w/in and craved by each one of us.. so.. begs no training..no prep..  et al)

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on team human

douglas rushkoff (@rushkoff) tweeted at 7:21 PM on Thu, Jul 26, 2018:
It’s all resonance: The human body is a receiver, just tuning in non-local consciousness. Lifelong hero alt.biologist Rupert Sheldrake and his overtone-chanting spouse Jill Purce, on @teamhumanshow recorded live in London. https://t.co/5FVPPnNGBj
(https://twitter.com/rushkoff/status/1022653257594953728?s=03)

r: all experience goes against the philosophy that we don’t have consciousness.. that we’re machine

d: so it’s not something we argue.. it’s what we experience

r: i recently read michael pollan’s book.. how to change someone’s mind.. saying experiences completely shifted his thinking

michael

r: i think it’s the realization is that our own consciousness is not just located inside ourselves.. all spiritual experiences.. is seeing as part of something greater than ourselves..

8 min – r: i think people who get dementia et al.. it’s the receiving system that gets destroyed .. not the memory itself..

16 min – r: on emergence.. when you’re trying to think of how new things come into being… from below, above, or both..  so imagine bottom up theory of creativity

23 min – r: one of things that got me in trouble w ted talk.. saying speed of light changes.. they said it can’t change it’s a constant..

25 min – r: people have been exploring these big ideas for a long time.. you don’t need the mechanical metaphor to get that we’re inside a larger mind.. the ordering of nature comes form a kind of primal mind.. a lot of indian myths start with primal feature.. they start w human consciousness .. rather than animal..

In a unique impromptu treat, Rupert’s wife Jill Purcejoins the stage to demonstrate the power of resonance.

29 min – r: i came up w idea of morphic resonance when working on plants.. 1973.. it became clear i wasn’t going to pursue this in biochem at cambridge.. so went to work on crop development in india.. book: a new science of life.. met jill there

31 min – d: the work you are doing is largely about compassion.. at the heart

32min – r: i don’t often use that word.. it’s about connectedness.. and compassion is much easier if you feel connected..

thurman interconnectedness law

r: kind same word as kindred.. all animals are fairly kind to their kind.. usually treat other animals as enemies.. the stretch is to see our connection to whole solar system.. that’s where spiritual practices play an essential role

34 min – j: (d: mech of overtone chanting.. what does it do to us).. it allows us to be in tune.. western music in 17th was made out of tune.. all music since 17th cent has been out of tune.. so.. chanting on single not e.. using resonant cavities to allow notes w/in the notes to become audible.. sounds making are in tune.. you’re hearing the sounds of your own geometry being made audible..

36 min – j: another thing.. it’s a very powerful meditation.. elongating breath.. conscious of the normally unconscious.. refocus.. becoming aware of intertismal (?) moments

37 min – j: your sound creates form.. and also dissolves it.. so in doing it w others.. you create sonar energy.. and that’s the point..  if you sing words.. could be singing the wrong ones.. this way of using sounds is to go beyond content of mind to nature of mind..

39 min – d: we’re learning that we’re in a collective reality and none of us is alone..t

43 min – r: my book – the sense of being stared at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Cadigan

Pat Cadigan (born September 10, 1953) is an American science fiction author, whose work is most often identified with the cyberpunk movement. Her novels and short stories all share a common theme of exploring the relationship between the human mind and technology.

48 min – p: dreams are how i know i’m ok.. when i dream all night long.. but if i have several days in a row that doesn’t happen.. i know something is wrong w me.. that’s my barometer for mental health.. the thing is .. i’m still dreaming.. but if i don’t remember them.. something has gone wrong w my mental health..

49 min – p: i like your idea that mind is bigger than brain.. maybe the brain generates a field that you call the mind.. brain is capable of redirecting itself..

50 min – r: a regenerative capacity.. that most of our bodies have as well..

56 min – p: we’re all discouraged from doing things we aren’t good at.. i was thinking.. every kid should have dance lessons.. people are discouraged from dancing if they don’t dance well.. people should be encouraged to move..  it’s such a crowded world people don’t think they can sing even.. unless they’re good.. i used to sing all the time.. you should do that.. because it feels good to sing.. i say.. if you’ve got a voice it’s good enough

58 min – r: a lot of people aren’t very interested in what’s out in the world.. the non human world.. but if you are.. there’s so much info out there.. most people feel disempowered..  a lot of people are very interested about ideas.. we have an ed system that is telling people what to think about.. it takes time to figure out what are conventional and non conventional ideas

1:01 – p: ed system often stifles curiosity

r: i don’t think we are in a simulation.. simulation is make believe and we’re in reality

1:05 – d: team human is to bring us together.. anything taking us apart is against team human.. and i don’t think any of that is human.. i don’t think there is an us and them.. ie: ed, internet, fb, .. anything dividing/using us.. to promote addictive and more predictable behaviors

1:06 – p: fb also has the capacity to round up a whole lot of friends to offer support

1:08 – q: what enhancements would you choose

augmenting interconnectedness

1:09 – r: spiritual practices.. we just don’t have time to do them all.. becomes difficult to choose

1:10 – p: we’re spoiled for choice until you get down to cost.. i want all my joints replaced.. ie: i can’t kneel anymore.. i would like a greater capacity to remember.. i would like greater capacity to understand.. i would like.. time.. the time i wasted.. replaced

1:12 – d: i would like all those things and.. to experience whole human organism at once.. most of time i feel like an individuated human.. t

yeah.. augmenting interconnectedness via 2 convos..

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