angela duckworth

angela duckworth bw

first intro’d to Angela at the ted talks ed pbs special:


angela lee duckworth – i was convinced my kids could learn math – 7th grade – (cringe – oh my math) if they worked long and hard enough, in ed – the one thing we know how to measure best is iq – (but what if there’s more) – in every study – who is successful here and why (are all these places in assumed success places? westpoint, national spelling bee, teachers – varied places?) – 1 predictor of success – grit – patience and perseverance – grit questionaires – grittier kids more likely to graduate (but is that our success?) – how to build grit in kids – (i don’t know – but talent doesn’t make you gritty – we need to be grittier about getting our kids (authentically) gritty)


and now she is one of the MacArthur 2013 fellows:

macarthur foundation fellows

Angela Duckworth is a psychologist whose studies are clarifying the role that intellectual strengths and personality traits play in educational achievement. Duckworth’s work primarily examines two traits that she demonstrates predict success in life: grit—the tendency to sustain interest in and effort toward long-term goals—and self-control—the voluntary regulation of behavioral, emotional, and attentional impulses. A major difference between the two qualities is that grit equips individuals to pursue especially challenging aims over years and even decades, while self-control operates at a more micro timescale in the battle against what could be referred to as “hourly temptations.” –

here she is talking about her vision:


grit – sustaining commitments? tendency to retain loyal vs switching around.. maybe we rethink grit?

would explain her inverse measure between grit and talent..

Peter Gray, James Paul Gee, et al’s – and our findings – maybe we don’t need to learn be taught grit.. we just need to be set free – to find the thing we can’t not do – and then from our passion/hunger grit emerges… (it can’t not, ie: Satori, Lucas)

what if grit is the result of finding/facilitating passion, and not a tool/skill needed to get (compulsory/supposed to) things done. seems a lot of research is spent on an ecosystem (that we’ve manufactured) that focuses on figuring out some extrinsic motivation to learn some assumed skill base.

what if keeping jobs and earning money isn’t our definition of success.

at 4:35 on ted- perhaps we know a way to develop authentic grit..

perhaps.. a better ecosystem to/of research..

3 focus areas


perhaps how we define grit … makes all the difference.. no?


via (other people’s) convo on twitter:  the more I look into Angela Duckworth, the more disturbed I am its ugly colonialist stuff
As Galton (1892) suggested, the inclination to pursue especially challenging aims over months, years, and even decades is distinct from the capacity to resist “the hourly temptations,” pursuits which bring momentary pleasure but are immediately regretted
my response the link shared… 
oh my.. only because we’ve never set someone (in our test/research) group free long enough… and/or we’ve never let the goal be 100% curiosity/person/gut driven..
meaning… truly starts from person’s gut… with option to change mind 24/7..
the it is me ness.. (is huge. ginormous.)
perhaps it would blow you/us away… but am thinking (via Krishnamurti et al). invisible to the eye.. in need of x d glasses… no doubt…
ie:to adults pushing all this…. how long does your “grit”. self-control” last while listening to seemingly nothing….?
there’s never nothing going on….
lets listen for that… no…?
we prototyped this intensive… year 1and 2 of lab…
Grit is the tendency to sustain interest in and effort toward very long-term goals
via who…?
unless long term goal is from within… can’t imagine it being sustainable…
Self-control is the voluntary regulation of behavioral, emotional, and attentional impulses in the presence of momentarily gratifying temptations or diversions.
my guess 99% ish people don’t believe self control is voluntary… meaning… most people don’t believe it’s legal to think for themselves… (again – part of our manufacturing/controlling of people)
ie: I would venture to say I’ve been pretty self controlled my whole life… but not till age 45 ish… did I start deciding what/how/why to do… things.
very sad.
I can’t keep on perpetuating that.. it’s like I did 45 yrs of dis service…
all the while thinking I was making people happy…
Aeon (@aeonmag) tweeted at 6:00 AM on Tue, Aug 22, 2017:
Teaching ‘grit’ is bad for children, and bad for democracy. Summer Reads from the archive: