peter (j) on building an alt

PETER JOSEPH: Building The Alternative Future, Here’s How! – [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kaVZb2TH9o]

peter joseph.. peter (j) on recursive democracy.. et al

via tweet [https://x.com/org_integral/status/1946230286473130139]:

notes/quotes from 9 min video:

the more efficiency the more we have to create the more we have to compensate for the loss of sales because of that efficiency

3 min – need constant consumption to make it work.. the fundamental sickness of the system we have to move out of .. cancer is best analogy for this.. buying and selling.. and think that we wouldn’t to that is considered naive.. not a market econ a market culture

6 min – it’s a hierarchy producing system.. a system of power.. so if go by activism unaware of that.. more power people get .. less incentive to go against (grain).. so activists can’t think that way.. that they will change world thru traditional channels

joseph reward law et al

7 min – you have to go outside.. have to be willing to *attack the very system.. to build out contrary attributes of the system.. ie: like open source; seeing unemployment as benefit; changing all the incentive structures; society based on sharing; access society rather than property society; ..

but if attacking.. if any form of re ness.. still same song.. i would consider those as well as ‘traditional channels’.. aka: not legit outside

when you put all that together.. it’s a completely diff value system and completely diff set of demands.. and you hope that those demands will coalesce into a new model.. i no longer believe in trying to appeal to power.. we have to build out new systems.. doing more and more with less and less.. we can create pockets now of people living very differently in small communities.. that are shared in networks.. doing things diff.. engineer own system of econ.. i call it integral

again.. still same song.. i would consider those as well as ‘traditional channels’.. aka: not legit outside

8 min – so out system activism means ultimately.. building literally a new system from the ground up.. strategically.. where you want to suck all the energy from the existing system.. get people to realize they can live diff.. sucking people away from current system.. starving the beast..

that just sucked out all potential for legit diff (aka: re ness is a cancerous distraction)

you’re right.. nothing to date has gotten to the root of problem

what you seem to be missing here is the need for a global detox leap.. ie: humanity needs a leap.. to get back/to simultaneous spontaneity .. simultaneous fittingness.. everyone in sync.. the dance

otherwise we’ll keep perpetuating the whac-a-mole-ing ness of same song (aka: sea world)

so for that.. (ie: legit freedom).. will only happen if it’s all of us (aka: leap) .. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do

ie: imagine if we listen to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & use that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness)

the thing we’ve not yet tried/seen: the unconditional part of left to own devices ness

[‘in an undisturbed ecosystem ..the individual left to its own devices.. serves the whole’ –dana meadows]

there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental exponential labeling) to facil the seeming chaos of a global detox leap/dance.. for (blank)’s sake..

ie: whatever for a year.. a legit sabbatical ish transition

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