andreas on seed & spark
What is the biology of wonder? Mark your calendars for a can’t-miss @SeedSparkLive convo w @biopoetics this Wednesday night . . .
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/samchaltain/status/1513535100948037654
‘We have attempted to sneak away from our Siamese connection with all other beings’ @biopoetics
notes/quotes from session:
carol: i’m nervous for my friends.. those of us who have defined our existence in 2nd grade language.. and not able to move beyond that.. the 2nd grader w/in me.. how do we get there..
andreas: it goes away if there’s no plug.. if you pull the plug it will all vanish.. a crazy reality that isn’t really a reality..
hari rat park law et al
andreas: the antithesis to togetherness.. it feeds on life by pretending.. it creates a surface a zombification of life.. it’s really that bad.. life is something that always yearns for self recreation.. it does this until it dies.. the natural care work.. this is just what you do.. protect this living relationships.. capitalism feeds on life
andreas: there’s also profound interest in numbingness.. in making people not go back to real life.. they become violent.. we can see it all the time.. more and more.. i concur with all of you that this is terrifying.. this is first time i’m talking about these things and people react directly in this way.. they ask.. so how can we get there.. same for me.. i’m kind of blessed by my own ability to step back into this world and live in these connections.. but at the same time i’m wounded and living in this destruction
sam: i suppose that’s why you’re so fearful of your friends.. part of aliveness is living w the undeniable understanding in which we are sewing the seeds of our own destruction day after day
carol: if our language allowed me to say i am a part of this mtn/energy.. then i share also the energy of the capitalists.. don’t i.. i if i see them on the precipice them i’m there..
bobbie: i love how you’ve brought this forth.. i was a kinder teacher.. we could learn about tomatoes on a worksheet and learn the spelling or go outside.. seems like what you’re asking is for our institutions to stop separating the spiritual.. we’ve taken it so far because we haven’t wanted to tell people how to live.. we’ve become factories.. on allowing yourself to let go of right/wrong ness.. can go w so many expressions.. to allow people to express yearnings in so many diff ways.. as soon as we let go of having to be right.. that is the bridge..
andreas: important key word.. the commons.. living the commons.. it’s a way to relate.. a very old way of doing econ.. relating/sharing.. it’s the way the biosphere works.. something where every living subject is contributing and fed
2\ if we create a way to ground the chaos of 8b legit free people
andreas: opposed to c as an econ.. it’s very much alive.. it’s much more.. it’s about creating ourselves in mutuality.. see david bollier
andreas: the good thing is we don’t need to do it alone.. not about battles of knowing it better.. but in togetherness.. humans have been doing this for thousands of year
andreas: they really need to obey the laws of sharing this world
obey?.. or listen to the itch-in-the-soul
andreas: we need to enlarge our view from humans only.. but to all beings.. and then they’ll tell us..
holmgren indigenous law et al
andreas: our task is generating functivity
andreas: if we only really listen.. t
andreas: so important to see that the efficiency story in biology is so shallow.. it’s not a story about that
carol: the only way to pop the pimple is by putting pressure on it.. but the pimple needs to be popped.. think of all the toxins we endure because we’re afraid to pop it
oh.. i don’t know.. we need a means that 8b people already crave.. not more pressure
andreas: i love this carol.. work against that what is strangling life.. needs to start right now/here.. as long as we’re relatively free to do this.. it really needs to be done right now.. t
sam: so urgent that andreas woke up in the middle of the night to hang out w us.. in italy..