michel on accounting ness
michel bauwens on accountable ing ness
via tweet [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1863965131660812360]:
Quote of the Day, November 13, 2024:
* Criteria for Post-Capitalist Value Accounting
“We must “unpick the connection between markets, prices, and profit. We want markets, for they are the immediate alternative to both authoritarian decree from above and the black hole of infinite collective deliberation. And we need prices: items registered on a ledger need some quantified units. But we do not want exclusive reference to profits as the motivation or the underlier of units of measure; at least not capitalist-defined profits. (We envision an economy that generates and distributes ‘surpluses’, but we cede the term ‘profit’ to the capitalist lexicon.) A rejection of profits, and prices calculated according to profitability, is a critical condition for thinking value differently: that is, being able to value quantitatively according to the intentional, economically-encoded ethical values of a network. We do not want to focus on the capitalist discourse of ‘externalities’ that trigger state levies and bounties to incorporate social priorities; we want those priorities to be encoded and expressed in the measurement of output value; we want to be able to reveal production for the commons as value creating by its provider, and without the state being that provider (or funder). *The key here is how things get ‘recognised’ by the network (that is, reported, accounted for, and calculated), for that determines what gets recorded in the ledger – what constitutes an asset and a liability. A point of emphasis, therefore, is accounting as communication: a transmission of information across the network that both depicts the current state of the network and places each agent within the network view. **A different accounting grammar lets you count as the network determines; not as capital determines. This network can produce, attribute value, and reproduce by its own, chosen criteria.”
*i think we just have no idea what legit free people are like (black science of people/whales law et al) .. ie: can’t grok the mist in garden of eden.. that garden-enough ness.. so we don’t grok graeber stop at enough law et al.. and so we keep perpetuating myth of tragedy and lord ness..
**in undisturbed ecosystem ..the avg individual.. left to its own devices.. behaves in ways that serve/stabilize the whole’ –dana meadows
we keep disturbing the ecosystem because we can’t seem to let go enough to see/try the unconditional part of left to own devices ness
legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of measuring, accounting, people telling other people what to do
– Dick Bryan
to which i quote tweeted: if we’re still value accounting.. it’s not post capitalist
to which michel replied [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1864162006301069768]:
nope, capital is not capitalism, counting is not capitalism; not counting is definitely not post-capitalist; feudal lords were not counting. Capitalism is a certain arrangement of counting and capital, along with many non-counting aspects, and post-capitalism is a certain arrangement of counting and capital, along with many non-counting aspects. Of course, categories do change in paradigm and systemic shifts, but the entire elimination of quantity is very unlikely.
huge reason we keep perpetuating tragedy of the non common.. myth of tragedy and lord.. no idea what legit free people are like.. assume they will spend their days in some sort of quantifying ness.. graeber violence/quantification law et al
and [https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1864165627172471013]:
But to put it a simpler way: * in capitalism, value is created through an extractive process which create scarcity-driven commodities, *using ‘narcissic’ accounting * and from what we can see emerging, the most likely form of the next paradigm of post-capitalism will be ‘contributory’, based on the recognition of regenerative and care-based activities; in many instances, they will not need to be counted, in others, it will be imperative that they are counted **Extraction will not disappear, it is how life works, but life also works through regeneration, and ***it is the balance that needs to be restored.
*to me.. all accountable ness is ‘narcissic’ (cancerous distraction).. a disturbance to the dance
**in sea world..
***hari rat park law et al.. not about a mathematical (counting) balance ness.. much deeper..
but didn’t reply.. could hear wengrow
_______
_______
_______
_______
_______
_______
_______
_______
be you. 