john nash


a beautiful mind


adding page after watching a brilliant madness (doc):

35 min – rational thought .. he wrote.. imposes a limit on a person’s relation to the cosmos

he later called his remission periods.. interludes of enforced rationality..

to some extent..sanity is a form of conformity

people are always selling the idea that people with mental illness are suffering.. but it’s really.. not so simple.. i think mental illness or madness can be an escape also..

johann hari.. hari present in society law

created a society johann

mental health ness..


forbidden cures

36 min – crazy letters/postcards… unbelievable how these things were supposed to mean something… they were frightening.. and they made use of everything that math had been in his life..

39 min – (was a repeat in there) – mathematicians at princeton got him an apt.. much nicer.. ego stuff was gone.. began seeing eleanor and son john again..  less than year.. stopped taking meds and symptoms resurfaced… meds interfere with vitality/drive/thinking.. takes away soul..

41 min – delusions now joined by voices.. in his head

eleanor longden – crazywise

42 min – you’re really talking to yourself.. that’s what the voices are..

he said there was something that went on between people that was alien to him.. he felt in a bubble.. he felt lonely

43 min – 1987 – alicia has change of heart.. has him move back in and promises never to commit him again.. best for him to be on outside.. took him not as husband.. but as someone who needed protection.. giving him shelter.. meals.. made a tremendous diff in his well being..

46 min – for more than decade… fantom treked the campus w red sneakers.. unaware that .. his game theory equilibrium..    60s started using game theory.. for practical econ.. basis of econ.. made it a much more useful subject..

i knew it was good work.. but can’t know how much something will be appreciate in future..

47 min – 80s.. econ’s realized game theory would be rec’d with nobel prize.. but couldn’t conceive of giving it w/o including nash.. and they were worried he was too unstable to accept..

48 min – sometime in 80s.. after 3 decades of struggling w mental illness.. john experienced 2nd transformation…

can’t remember the chronology.. i began arguing with the concept of the voices.. and ultimately.. i began rejecting them.. deciding not to listen..

his decent into madness had been sudden.. his reawakening was gradual.. almost impreceptible..

49 min – a portion of schizos do return to normal perception.. and how that occurs remains a mystery..

slowly he regained engagement and lucidity.. others thought it was via drugs.. but he quit taking drugs in 1970

harold kuhn: i said john.. how in the devil have you recovered.. john: i willed it.. i decided i was going to think rationally

50 ish – the fact that people did not abandon him .. that there were people who treated him like a human being.. made it possible for him to re emerge…

herta newman: could only happen in this little mathematical community.. that is very tolerant.. of certain aborations and also at the same time incredibly admiring of gift or genius.. that was what was important about nash in that world.. not that he was ill..

ends with nash getting nobel prize – age 66 – remarry.. return to princeton

53 min – we have to appreciate the talents of people who may be very eccentric.. and look at things in very peculiar ways.. often people who will have most stunning insights..

listen to all the voices..

we all need to become .. indigenous


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John Forbes Nash Jr. (June 13, 1928 – May 23, 2015) was an American mathematician who made fundamental contributions to game theory, differential geometry, and the study of partial differential equations. Nash’s work has provided insight into the factors that govern chance and decision-making inside complex systems found in everyday life.

His theories are widely used in economics. Serving as a Senior Research Mathematician at Princeton Universityduring the latter part of his life, he shared the 1994 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences with game theorists Reinhard Selten and John Harsanyi. In 2015, he also shared the Abel Prize with Louis Nirenberg for his work on nonlinear partial differential equations.

In 1959, Nash began showing clear signs of mental illness, and spent several years at psychiatric hospitals being treated for paranoid schizophrenia. After 1970, his condition slowly improved, allowing him to return to academic work by the mid-1980s. His struggles with his illness and his recovery became the basis for Sylvia Nasar’s biography, A Beautiful Mind, as well as a film of the same name starring Russell Crowe.

On May 23, 2015, Nash and his wife, Alicia Nash, were killed in a car crash while riding in a taxi on the New Jersey Turnpike.


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