derrick on imagine a turtle

derrick jensen on imagine a turtle ness..

as intro ish:

this from derrick:

i recognize i can turn away .. wildcats.. tortoises **don’t have that option

**as many (i’d say today all.. since it has to be all of us) humans don’t

came from (well lots of places but taking this one) from derrick on bright green lies – 1:

54 min – lierre: you can’t bribe the wild cats..

55 min – ross: how to

derrick: fan of joe hill’s line.. *’don’t mourn .. org‘.. one reason i’ve written so man books.. when feel overwhelmed by grief.. when i start to worry about all my own feelings about all the destruction i see around us.. .. i recognize i can turn away .. wildcats.. tortoises **don’t have that option.. a line somebody said to bob marley.. who was a hard worker.. ‘why don’t you just take days off..’ he said.. ‘because other side don’t take days off’.. industrial way.. my response to that.. feel it.. ***feel the sorrow/rage.. then move forward with them.. a lot of people will spend more energy to not feel.. than to feel and move on.. because afraid if feel.. sorrow won’t stop.. and it’s true.. it’s a coal/ember burning inside that never goes away.. but at same time.. learn you can feel it and it doesn’t’ kill you.. can still sing and make love and fight like hell..

*need 1st/most: means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature so we can detox enough to org around legit needs

**as many humans don’t..

and

this from imagine a turtle ness:

shell restoration – same as restoring our undisturbed ecosystem

imagine a turtle ness came from comment made:

If you are setting people free, you aren’t empowering them. You are doing the setting, you are doing the action.

so in explaining the need for ‘help’ against the irony of help\ing ness as oppression et al.. (and to me then need for ‘tech’ as that nonjudgmental expo labeling ‘help’).. to undo what civ et all (any form of m\a\p) has done since beginning of time.. wrote this:

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derrick also says in (again many places but taking this one) derrick on bright green lies – 3:

but if push too far it’s (ability to regen) gone

58 min – body is miraculous.. tremendous capacity for self regen.. same w nature.. if only push it so far can regen miraculously.. but if push too far it’s gone.. plenty of things we could do .. that don’t even mean can’t have access to ice cream for a while.. for most part means getting out of way.. nature always knows better than we do..

but.. ie: imagine a turtle ness.. and need for global detox/re\set.. to me.. we keep perpetuating myth of tragedy and lord (civ) because we keep playing wack a mole.. when humanity needs a leap.. to get back/to simultaneous spontaneity .. simultaneous fittingness.. everyone in sync..

so to me (in short):

we have pushed/extracted/exploited/oppressed too far.. and we need (and now tech can) an aid in restoring what was already there

and to me that restoration capability is what we need most/1st:

a means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature for a global detox/re\set .. so we can org around legit needs

imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us

ie: tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness 

ai as nonjudgmental expo labeling

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tweeting this [https://twitter.com/monk51295/status/1670408639344001025?s=20] as summary ish:

‘body is miraculous/tremendous capacity for self regen..same w nature..but if push too far it’s gone’ jensen [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9q8WLKzkGY]

& earlier ‘i can turn away ..wildcats/tortoises don’t have option’ dj

derrick on imagine a turtle ness

huge to need for tech to restore what civ stole

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