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Keynote Address: Vint Cerf – “A Web that Archives Itself”
The Internet Archive has started the process of preserving the WWW but there is an opportunity to refine the design of WWW to create a self-archiving, distributed system. I hope to explore some of the desirable properties of such a self-archiving system from the technical perspective but feel compelled to consider business models that make the process sustainable and affordable. This is clearly more than just a technical problem.


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Vinton Gray Cerf ForMemRS, (/ˈsɜːrf/; born June 23, 1943) is an American Internet pioneer, who is recognized as one of “the fathers of the Internet”, sharing this title with TCP/IP co-inventor Bob Kahn and packet switching inventors Paul Baran and Donald Davies, among others. His contributions have been acknowledged and lauded, repeatedly, with honorary degrees and awards that include the National Medal of Technology, the Turing Award, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the Marconi Prize and membership in the National Academy of Engineering.

In the early days, Cerf was a manager for the United States’ Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency(DARPA) funding various groups to develop TCP/IP technology. When the Internet began to transition to a commercial opportunity during the late 1980s, Cerf moved to MCI where he was instrumental in the development of the first commercial email system (MCI Mail) connected to the Internet.

Cerf was instrumental in the funding and formation of ICANN from the start. He waited in the wings for a year before he stepped forward to join the ICANN Board, eventually becoming chairman. He was elected as the president of the Association for Computing Machinery in May 2012, and in August 2013 he joined the Council on CyberSecurity’s Board of Advisors.

Cerf is also known for his sartorial style, typically appearing in three-piece suit—a rarity in an industry known for its casual dress norms.

Cerf is active in many organizations that are working to help the Internet deliver humanitarian value in our world today. He is supportive of innovative projects that are experimenting with new approaches to global problems, including the digital divide, the gender gap, and the changing nature of jobs.


Cerf has worked for Google as a Vice President and Chief Internet Evangelist since October 2005. In this function he has become well known for his predictions on how technology will affect future society, encompassing such areas as artificial intelligence, environmentalism, the advent of IPv6 and the transformation of the television industry and its delivery model.



jun 8 2016

9:05 sf (10:05 den) – Vint

Keynote Address: Vint Cerf – “A Web that Archives Itself”
The Internet Archive has started the process of preserving the WWW but there is an opportunity to refine the design of WWW to create a *self-archiving, distributed system. I hope to explore some of the desirable properties of such a self-archiving system from the technical perspective but feel compelled to consider business models that make the process sustainable and affordable. This is clearly more than just a technical problem.
*perhaps – hosting life bits..

opp to refine design of www to create a self-archiving distrib system- @vgcerf #DWebSummit -perhaps host life bits

notes from his talk:
Michel – 1\ immediate – w/o install 2\ open anyone can publish w/o permission 3\ universal – runs on any device/platform 4\ agency – user can interpret
stream of consciousness generated at 4am.. sometimes you actually don’t know what talking about..
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last one: collected many diff networks and made out of them one thing
i’m interested in archiving.. recognizing little bits and pieces.. but usually applies to a particular object.. but think what we do w software.. versioning capabilities.. keep track of changes.. dial back and forth.. starting to get to.. way back machine.. a space of time in which objects exist/change.. and we should hang on to that..
if look at http://www.. pages pointing to each other.. and figuring out how to archive that..
so what happens here (internet archive) snapshots of web pages are taken..a lot of metadata had to be collected.. hyperlinks had to be reformed.. have to reformulate references.. and point to things w/in scope of archive.. self-contained.. w all storage in back of room.. requires continuous scraping of web
when do you decide this is diff.. when that happens.. otherwise might continue making sample copies that aren’t necessary..
system accumulating web pages and copies of web pages.. and the set of all sets.. does it contain itself..
so.. we have a problem.. web can  barely contain itself as it is.. all this stuff.. so kind of worried.. not sure existing storage has enough in it to replicate.. so part of memory disappeared.. potential environmental constraints..
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should be conscious of hazards of lack of backward compatibility.. ie: not able to go from ppt to google.. et present at google.. point: power corrupts and ppt corrupts absolutely..
esp if thinking of archiving over periods of time..then all these kinds of permissions.. of things web points to..
one thing i like much.. when creating web pages.. automatically replicated and archived.. question.. when to do that.. seems reasonable at point i decide to publish..
interesting thing we do at google: allow mult parties to share in edit.. and we propagate that to all copies.. ie: self-replicating distributive archive
we all hold url scheme in common.. but domain has problem.. we do a lot of sharding of content..
thinking out loud about mechanisms that have flexibility in them..distrib archive.. all cases catered for
so just host life bits that io dance..
we’re going to need library full of stuff/software to store.. 50 yrs from now.. may have software that no longer runs on hardware.. may need to emulate old hardware in cloud.. ie: olive at carnegie melon..
how to find way to get permission to use software over time.. ie: companies will go out of business.. go bankrupt..
make business.. et al.. irrelevant
guaranteeing backward compatibility is impossible.. so may have to find way to run old stuff
if i am activiting path.. shouldn’t matter where i end up… rather than resolving to particular address..
the notion of edition..
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maybe we should be trying to filter malware out..?  mitchell mentioned safe..
how can we make this a safe environment for people to use..
again.. make sure people are free – have something else to do ..
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is possible if do well.. self archiving becomes a mean to record official records.. ie: intellectual property.. et al.. if we could build this integrity into system.. powerful contribution..
esp if we disengage from things that are irrelevant to a human being
q&a: apps taking over eyeballs..
what should we think about w/regard to apps .. what could app world look like.. google.. running apps in native form in chrome op system.. says we can get off mobile onto something else..
we need awake people.. asleep people are addicted to shiny
app space for me has grown out of control.. i don’t want iot to turn into app works.. need to move away from individual app for every individual app.. to run environment..
many people worried about privacy – and the right to be forgotten.. but.. we have to remember everything we have to forget.. ie: to get rid.. and then to make sure it doesn’t come back
I love the idea of a digital diorama @vgcerf mentions, that would be a very fun aesthetic
conceivable we’ll evolve social ness to take care of this.. ie: permission to copy to take a selfie..


putting people at center of internet

The mission of the People Centered Internet is to make the internet useful for people in some *measurable way. It is about making information more locally available, across multiple languages, and to help people with their health, well-being and ability to work. The point is to pay attention to the Internet infrastructure and applications to benefit people. It is more than just access to the Internet infrastructure, it is also about access to the applications that can **help improve the quality of life and work.

*perhaps not literally measurable.. perhaps that’s what’s keeping us from tech/internet as it could be

**w/o other people defining that for you.. ie: work et al

According to Cerf, in order to create the conditions for success, and to be a successful change agent for large scale initiatives, you must be able to sell your ideas to other people.

perhaps the best sell.. is modeling something 7 bn people are already craving (because graeber rethink law).. graeber model law.. for maté basic needs

Cerf advice to change agents is to work on solving a real problem.

Find the the pebble that can divert the boulder and then make a big difference. The secret is finding the pebble, not another boulder.

deep/simple/open enough..  a nother way

a means to model how 7bn could leap

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]

from 14 min video:

learn how to sell your ideas to people..t

or listen deep enough so that your idea doesn’t have to be sold.. ie: already in each person..maté basic needs

key of internet.. helping people find other people with whom they might want to cooperate..t

let’s try via 2 convos   .. a means to facil 7bn people via daily curiosity

go after problem you think would make a diff if you could solve. it.. pebble/bolder parable.. find the pebble..t.. to divert the boulder

2 convos .. as the pebble


on digital dark

worried about digital recording world disappearing.. the info contained in those bits will be gone.. don’t know what they mean anymore.. no longer an operating system that runs them.. we don’t have a systematic way of making sure what we create today will be accessible in future

ie: people taking all pics w mobile.. need to print it out.. we know that will last at least 150 yrs


glenn and jaron and matt and vint

There is a great deal of wisdom here. Depression is clearly up in many countries as part of the internet age, and while correlation isn’t causation, it seems clear part of it is causation. The internet promised greater connectedness but in many key ways it produced the opposite:

Original Tweet:

@ggreenwald I would distinguish between the internet and social media

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begs we give ourselves a do over.. and use internet as it could be..

ie: 2 convos.. as infra

cc @vgcerf