#netgain
3 FEBRUARY 2015 – event
netgain via ford foundation
http://www.fordfoundation.org/issues/human-rights/internet-rights/news?id=937
The Digital Revolution Meets the Common Good
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3 points of interest/concern in regard to essence of a problem deep enough: trust, access, good:
1\ on trust
interesting that Ethan asks Emily.. sounds like what you’re talking about is trust.. and her response is .. (i think she said – better to not use the word trust) ..but it’s about literacy, transparency & (algorithmic) accountability – @emilybell #NetGain
maybe that’s our problem… no?
the essence of trust isn’t about accountability – and the essence of ongoing literacy (which is what we need.. an antifragile/ness to literacy/everything) is about trust. no?
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2\ on access
another take – of interest/essence:
Mitchell Baker of Mozilla Foundation brings up the importance of civic engagement and literacy. Work on access isn’t enough. #bravo #netgain
what if work on access is enough.
what if literacy and civic engagement is natural with access.
i’ve seen it in school. in spaces of permission – what’s needed happens.
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3\ on good ness
again – great work… love them love them.. but we only need them because of lack of trust..
ie: At #NetGain @laurapoitras – It would not have been possible to do the work on @citizenfour without secure communications tools like Tor.
what if we Gershenfeld away the need to be secure.. the need to find out evil
Chris – the tools are labors of love – that want everyone to have the best they can..
again – to whistle blow…
what if we create situations where there’s no need (or very very little need) to whistleblow
true we have bad.. but can we ever capture it all up..? might we rather.. focus energy on everyone being able to do good..?
digital security…
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Brewster – lock the web open.
web not reliable. also not private. let’s make servers of www distributed. via tools @timberners_lee didn’t have. @brewster_kahle #NetGain
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my tweets/rts reverse order from first here:
let’s archive us. bring the past into the web. permanently available. present/future accessible. @brewster_kahle #NetGain
web not reliable. also not private. let’s make servers of www distributed. via tools @timberners_lee didn’t have. @brewster_kahle#NetGain
on locking the web open – @brewster_kahle #NetGain
Sunil Abraham: 37% of Indians are illiterate. Tools that help the visually impaired online will help the illiterate online too. #netgain
Sunil Abraham: Given our infrastructure challenges, mobile phones have become India’s gateway to the Internet #netgain
Sunil Abraham: I come from the Silicon Valley of India, yet nearby villages only have power 4 or 5 hours a day. #netgain
it’s about literacy, transparency & (algorithmic) accountability – @emilybell #NetGain
not an us vs them project. an us and them project. – @emilybell #NetGain
the free press today as collection of platforms accessed by individuals – Emily Bell #NetGain
If you can’t be at #netgain, you can watch online: livestream.com/fordfound (or follow the stream of #netgain tweets)
crazy ideas are what has transformed this world. – #netgain
Project officially launches at @FordFoundation in NYC tomorrow, but please join in now with your suggested challenges netgainchallenge.org
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other tweets i fav’d
“Humanity is engaged in an experiment of real time communication of grievance” @MitchellBaker at #netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/EthanZ/status/565538318327504901
Ethan Zuckerman is truly the Ben Franklin of the civic Internet. Inspiring the crowd at #NetGain! http://t.co/BK6mrT1VDp
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/565544394666045440
.@EthanZ: There’s a really good chance we’ll screw this up…but our hope is taking on a huge issue, we can wrestle with challenges #netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/acarvin/status/565544559254712320
#BlackLivesMatter is a movement for humanity. —@aliciagarza speaks on the power /struggle in open internet #Netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/katellington/status/565547827104083968
Heba Morayef: We’ve seen a counter revolution that’s in full force, forcing protests back online and off the streets. #netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/acarvin/status/565548160685469698
but internet has again become safest sphere for organizing, for freedom of association, because of danger of organizing in streets #NetGain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/jessimckenzi/status/565548391032422402
“The Internet and the media are places of organizing. They are contested space.” @aliciagarza #NetGain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/culturejedi/status/565549311564734466
Sunil Abraham: I come from the Silicon Valley of India, yet nearby villages only have power 4 or 5 hours a day. #netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/acarvin/status/565549413553434624
Sunil Abraham: Given our infrastructure challenges, mobile phones have become India’s gateway to the Internet #netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/acarvin/status/565549549243367427
Sunil Abraham: 37% of Indians are illiterate. Tools that help the visually impaired online will help the illiterate online too. #netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/acarvin/status/565549889439166465
Joi Ito: When you change a FB privacy rule, someone might die in Iran. #netgain
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/acarvin/status/565558408892661760
Learn more about why #BlackLivesMatter activists support an #OpenInternet protected by #NetNeutrality bit.ly/1ysGCyX #NetGain
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during lunch
mozilla – the web we want 2014 launch:
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tweets/rt’s:
Following #NetGain. Still so shocked at how divorced the East Coast Tech conversation is from the West Coast Tech conversation.
#NetGain has a whoooole bunch of media/academics/activists talking about platforms…and few building the platforms seems to be there.
“Forget about other people monetizing your data. That’s peanuts. No one is preserving the data valuable to me.” @timberners_lee at #Netgain
@timberners_lee‘s point: you’ve got to decentralize the web so we can preserve, archive, understand our own data. #NetGain
“The web is decentralized, DNS is centralized, and we know how much grief comes from that.” @timberners_lee at #netgain
dns – domain name system
Twitter is “an accelerant for things that are emotionally charged,” says @timberners_lee #NetGain
‘Code and law are the same thing …we need people who understand them both deeply’ @timberners_lee #NetGain
if it just becomes a battle.. that’s no way to run a planet. @timberners_lee #NetGain
“@digiphile: As t-shirts about the WWW & Net go, these, worn by @timberners_lee @vgcerf, are epic. HT @w3c #netgain pic.twitter.com/xzRotPKgk5”
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my tweets/rts reverse order from here (during lunch convo):
if it just becomes a battle.. that’s no way to run a planet. @timberners_lee #NetGain
i couldn’t have foreseen – because the whole point of the web – is (unleashing) the massive amount of innovation out there – @timberners_lee #NetGain
exactly. all of us. prep in the exact plan – not good use of our time.
.@timberners_lee‘s point: you’ve got to decentralize the web so we can preserve, archive, understand our own data. #NetGain
“Forget about other people monetizing your data. That’s peanuts. No one is preserving the data valuable to me.” @timberners_lee at #Netgain
on silos – we need the platforms to dance/talk together better (paraphrase) – @timberners_lee #NetGain
we need to make the way of handling keys (pgp) as easy as fb makes the way of handling friends – @timberners_lee #NetGain
the web is a non-national thing.. the web design didn’t use the country systems – @timberners_lee #NetGain
nationality: human ness
difficult for cern to do – because they had no idea the benefit of the risk they were taking – @timberners_lee #NetGain
a massive ask to get everyone online.. you can’t also say.. and pay me – @timberners_lee #NetGain
you could have monetized this moment – @scrawford ..but it wouldn’t have worked – @timberners_lee #NetGain convo
@timberners_lee could have ridden off into the sunset in 1993 – @scrawford #NetGain
common people involvement matters – @avilarenata #NetGain
@timberners_lee chose open over celebrity #NetGain – on thinking for the common good
Heba Morayef: The Internet has become the only place in Egypt for freedom of speech and association – it’s become The Square. #netgain
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rest of afternoon – they are watching citizenfour and discussing it..
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Best analysis I’ve seen on “net neutrality” – be worried, very worried about protecting incumbents by @jeffreyatucker http://t.co/4Lp3fMzocv
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/jhagel/status/571710532140449792
be you. 