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adding page after adding joan and bob and simon songs to improv\ing page.. and while so then.. while watching this doc..

published mar 2016 – 54 min – Joan narrates this one..



figuring diff of who they thought i was and who i thought i was

most of life.. look back and think.. did that really happen

6 min – 1958 – club 47 – underground coffee shop… my attraction to sad.. long.. beautiful songs..

8 min – bob on trying to get her guitar style down..


9 min – newport folk festival 1959… 13 000 people… and then all of a sudden i was folk queen.. just like that

12 min – i battled that (stage fright) for years.. and nobody ever knew it.. sister mimi was huge support.. knew exactly what to say

13 min – on finding out ..’whites only’ in the contract and changing that

14 min – grenada

15 min – i’m with you as much as i can be.. do it with non violence.. – i’d heard this since i was 8 .. my father was pacifist.. he had been doing research for the military and at some point he realized.. he couldn’t do that.. as quakers.. you really do table the concept that nations are more important than people… therefore.. you don’t salute flags.. and you do take the sanctity of human life.. all life.. for granted

let’s do that Joan.. now.. today.. a nother way

16 min – so that.. when i heard dr king speak.. i knew this was it forme


march on washington was massive.. what a gift to be there when dr king took off with that speech

17 min – (singing): my age it means nothing.. my name it means less.. and the country i come from is called the midwest

18 min – when dylan and his music entered my life.. i maybe didn’t know i was looking for music.. i certainly was aware that something was missing.. particularly when i heard what it was.. i was .. oh my god.. this is the link.. the link between me and the world and music and politics.. and all of it… i heard that music and that made it clear that that was the direction to go … (singing): the reason for fighting.. i never did get

19 min – crosby on bob – he was already writing songs.. and he was.. an unbelievably good poet.. and she knew the strength of the songs..

20 min – crosby: the two of them were quite a force at that time

22 min – (?): set the stage for making rock n roll.. literature.. that made rock n roll art form

23 min – i was the singer and he was the writer.. and the two of us weren’t just two people.. we amounted to a minimum of 3.. but we were in a bubble.. and it didn’t last

24 min – at begin i had a claim on him.. then i was just part of the pack… the tour in england was hell.. prob because everybody was doing drugs.. and i didn’t get that

25 min – i didn’t have the sense to leave.. i couldn’t leave.. and that’s just how people get..

bob suffered under me wanting him to be other than what he was… i wanted him to be a political spokesperson.. out in public.. to be on our team.. and that was my hang up

26 min – if i could just accept him for his songs.. and what he did and what he was.. but i was trying to shove him into a mold.. and it wasn’t until years later that i realized.. he didn’t need to be on the team.. he wrote the songs.. it was the most powerful stuff… we had in our non-violent arsenal (singing): how many roads must a man walk down..

27 min – crosby: during draft.. she would stand by train and tell recruits.. you don’t have to do this.. we have lawyers/advisers… this is a bad thing.. and they would spit/kick/curse her.. and she would keep trying.. and every once in a while.. she’d manage to pull a guy out of the line.. and then they’d arrest her.. throw her in jail.. couple days.. go home.. shower.. eat.. go right back to oakland.. she’d go right back.. and start over..

29 min – after being in jail: i learned something.. you go into jail a pacifist.. you come out a stronger pacifist..

david harris (married 5 yrs.. have a son.. met in prison 68-73) – he was head of draft resistance movement.. and i was riding on a wave

can’t believe how much i didn’t know about.. while being busy/good in school/church


gabriel’s (drumming) rhythm village []: When an individual or organization is in conflict with itself, much of this creative energy is lost, resulting in a non-productive individual, and a poorly performing organization. One of the most powerful ways to bring individuals and organizations back into harmonious creative activity is to put them in rhythm together. 

32 min – as one group of men were shot off to the moon.. my husband was shot off to prison for refusing the draft (15 months)

33 min – david was in prison when gabe was born

david: it’s a much harder transition going out than it is going in.. there’s a reason all these people who go to prison end up divorced

35 min – in nam – hanoi.. during bomb drop.. heaviest carpet bombing during whole war.. went on 11 days.. i understood i was mortal in a big way

37 min – on return.. pressed to explain what she meant by hideous ness… murder/slaughter (below.. image after she said this)


how did i not know of this woman

38 min – last year i went to the nam memorial.. i wanted to put my hands on the wall.. i wanted to go into the wall.. i couldn’t get close enough… and i could feel it coming.. i started to scream.. i’d sat on all that stuff.. all those years.. just because it was beyond imagining/feeling… it’d stuck down there for all these decades.. that’s how deep it was

41 min – (singing): diamonds and rust… came from deep within

45 mmin – rolling thunder tour.. let hair down.. had fun.. any longer and i would have been worried i wasn’t doing something serious

46 min – crosby: she didn’t give up.. say.. we beat that nam war… she has an ethical moral stance in the world..

sarajevo to let people know someone cared – 92

47 min – cellist.. that didn’t know what else to do put go on the street and play.. joan there.. it was an instant soul connection..  then she sits down and sings.. amazing grace

48 min – being in sarajevo.. i never really dealt with that loss.. i don’t deal well with loss.. the fact is.. never dealt completely w loss of my sister… she called family together and asked permission to die


51 min – somehow.. i don’t know how..

i’ve constructed a life where i’m not lonely….

music was my therapy.. without that.. i don’t know where i’d be right now..

52 min – i love to be on tour.. the music.. friendship.. i love it..

one of the people in the world i’m most comfortable with.. is my boy.. experience most don’t get

i don’t get stage fright anymore.. i walk out and say hi everybody.. and enjoy myself

54 min – (singing): lay down swords forever…. the spirit is still there.. all you need


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Joan Chandos Baez (/baɪz/; born January 9, 1941) is an American folk singer, songwriter, musician, and activist whose contemporary folk music often includes songs of protest or social justice.Baez has performed publicly for over 55 years, releasing over 30 albums. Fluent in Spanish and English, she has recorded songs in at least six other languages. She is regarded as a folk singer, although her music has diversified since the counterculture days of the 1960s and now encompasses everything from folk rock and pop to country and gospel music. Although a songwriter herself, Baez generally interprets other composers’ work, having recorded songs by the Allman Brothers Band, the Beatles, Jackson Browne, Leonard Cohen, Woody Guthrie, Violeta Parra, The Rolling Stones, Pete Seeger, Paul Simon, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan and many others. In recent years, she has found success interpreting songs of modern songwriters such as Ryan Adams, Josh Ritter, Steve Earle and Natalie Merchant. Her recordings include many topical songs and material dealing with social issues.

She began her recording career in 1960 and achieved immediate success. Her first three albums, Joan Baez, Joan Baez, Vol. 2, and Joan Baez in Concert all achieved gold record status and stayed on the Billboard and other record album charts for two years.

Songs of acclaim include “Diamonds & Rust” and covers of Phil Ochs’s “There but for Fortune” and The Band’s “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down”. She is also known for “Farewell, Angelina”, “Love Is Just a Four-Letter Word”, “Forever Young”,”Joe Hill”, “Sweet Sir Galahad” and “We Shall Overcome”. She was one of the first major artists to record the songs of Bob Dylan in the early 1960s; Baez was already an internationally celebrated artist and did much to popularize his early songwriting efforts. Baez also performed three songs at the 1969 Woodstock Festival and has displayed a lifelong commitment to political and social activism in the fields of nonviolence, civil rights, human rights and the environment.

Baez will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on April 7, 2017


Baez was born on Staten Island, New York, on January 9, 1941. Joan’s grandfather, the Reverend Alberto Baez, left Catholicism to become a Methodist minister and moved to the U.S. when her father was two years old. ..Albert first considered becoming a minister but instead he turned to the study of mathematics and physics and received his Ph.D. degree at Stanford University in 1950. Joan graduated from Palo Alto High School in 1958. Albert was later credited as a co-inventor of the x-ray microscope.

The Baez family converted to Quakerism during Joan’s early childhood, and she has continued to identify with the tradition, particularly in her commitment to pacifism and social issues. While growing up, Baez was subjected to racial slurs and discrimination due to her Mexican heritage. Consequently, she became involved with a variety of social causes early in her career. She declined to play in any venues that were segregated, which meant that when she toured the Southern states she would play only at black colleges.


The opening line of Baez’s memoir And a Voice to Sing With is “I was born gifted” (referencing her singing voice, which she explained was given to her, and for which she can take no credit). A friend of Joan’s father gave her a ukulele. She learned four chords, which enabled her to play rhythm and blues, the music she was listening to at the time. Her parents, however, were fearful that the music would lead her into a life of drug addiction. When Baez was 13, her aunt and her aunt’s boyfriend took her to a concert by folk musician Pete Seeger, and Baez found herself strongly moved by his music. She soon began practicing the songs of his repertoire and performing them publicly. One of her very earliest public performances was at a retreat in Saratoga, California, for a youth group from Temple Beth Jacob, a Redwood City, California, congregation. A few years later in 1957, Baez bought her first Gibson acoustic guitar.


Gibson invited Baez to perform with him at the 1959 Newport Folk Festival, where the two sang two duets, “Virgin Mary Had One Son” and “We Are Crossing Jordan River”. The performance generated substantial praise for the “barefoot Madonna” with the otherworldly voice, and it was this appearance that led to Baez signing with Vanguard Records the following year although Columbia Records tried to sign her first. Baez later claimed that she felt she would be given more artistic license at a more “low key” label. Baez’s nickname at the time, “Madonna”, has been attributed to her clear voice, long hair, and natural beauty, and to her role as “Earth Mother”.


In 1969, her appearance at Woodstock in upstate New York afforded her an international musical and political podium, particularly upon the successful release of the documentary film Woodstock (1970).


In 1980, Baez was given honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degrees by Antioch University and Rutgers University for her political activism and the “universality of her music”. In 1983, she appeared on the Grammy Awards, performing Dylan’s anthemic “Blowin’ in the Wind”, a song she first performed twenty years earlier.


In 1956, Baez first heard Martin Luther King, Jr. speak about nonviolence, civil rights and social change which brought tears to her eyes. Several years later, the two became friends, with Baez participating in many of the Civil Rights Movement demonstrations that Dr. King helped organize.

In 1958, at age 17, Baez committed her first act of civil disobedience as a conscientious objector by refusing to leave her Palo Alto High School classroom in Palo Alto, California for an air-raid drill.


Baez first met Dylan in 1961 ..At the start, Dylan was more interested in Baez’ younger sister, Mimi, but under the glare of media scrutiny that began to surround Baez and Dylan, their relationship began to develop into something more……By the time of Dylan’s 1965 tour of the U.K., their relationship had slowly begun to fizzle out after they had been romantically involved off and on for nearly two years.

….Baez appeared with Dylan in the one-hour TV special Hard Rain, filmed at Fort Collins, Colorado, in May 1976.


In October 1967, Baez and her mother, along with nearly 70 other women, ….were incarcerated in the Santa Rita Jail, and it was here that Baez met David Harris, who was kept on the men’s side but who still managed to visit with Baez regularly.

….pair had known each other for three months when they decided to wed. After confirming the news to Associated Press, media outlets began dedicating ample press to the impending nuptials (at one point, Time magazine referred to the event as the “Wedding of the Century”).


A short time later, Harris refused induction into the armed forces and was indicted. On July 16, 1969, Harris was taken by federal marshals to prison. Baez was visibly pregnant in public in the months that followed, most notably at the Woodstock Festival, where she performed a handful of songs in the early morning. …Their son, Gabriel, was born in December 2, 1969. Harris was released from Texas prison after 15 months, but the relationship began to dissolve and the couple divorced amicably in 1973. They shared custody of Gabriel, who primarily lived with Baez. Explaining the split, Baez wrote in her autobiography: “I am made to live alone.


Baez dated .. Steve Jobs during the early 1980s. A number of sources have stated that Jobs—then in his mid-20s—had considered asking Baez to marry him, except that her age at the time (early 40s) made the possibility of their having children unlikely. Baez mentioned Jobs in the acknowledgments in her 1987 memoir, And a Voice to Sing With, and performed at the memorial for him in 2011. After Jobs’ death, Baez spoke fondly about him, stating that even after the relationship had ended the two remained friends, with Jobs having visited Baez shortly before his death, and stating that “Steve had a very sweet side, even if he was as . . . erratic as he was famous for being”


another doc (i guess same doc.. same producers.. just that one above is shortened)







18 min – on her stage fright.. no one would say anything.. they didn’t want anyone to be sick.. .. she’d leave stage for 5 min .. splash water on face and cry.. go back out.. and pick up on same note..

24 min – i always cried when i heard him (mlk) speak

26 min – on her protest of the bomb test .. didn’t even make sense.. no time to have parents get to bomb shelter et al…

28 min – we were modern day gypsies..  when i was 10… living in bagdhad.. filthy and sad..  i was considered an arab because i looked like one.. that’s kind of how it started.. my feeling about how you want to be treated..





fill with more good.. have more empathy..

finally stopped crying enough to answer your questions..


while looking into David


32 min – joan: the thing we need is revolution.. that man has never made.. he’s turned that sphere upside down a hundred thousand times.. and the bottom kept rising to the top.. the one thing we need .. is to recognize that human life is sacred.. and then you change everything

34 min – joan: the worst disease in the world today is that men are killing each other.. and that’s what we are going out to stop..

57 min – joan: i think everybody could be creative.. but what society does is spend 98% of its energy squelching.. all of that creativity.. and then.. that success word wouldn’t be so much in your mind to drive you.. t

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1:00 – joan: and is there such a thing as security.. i don’t think there is.. in the end.. what does security mean (girl w her: the search is over)



may 2018 – olympia paris via Gabriel fb share – 1 hr


40 min – deportee.. when some are illegal and others not wanted

1:28 – gabe drum solo